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I got a lot of respect for MMORPG.com and i pretty much always look to it for reliable and informative advice on my favourite genre of computer games.
However i simply cant stand by without having a significant moan about this fallen earth review. i think youve gotten it VERY VERY wrong in this case and i really think you should consider a re-review. Ive been playing FE for 200+ hours now and im finding it one of the most original, exciting and innovative mmo's thats been out for a long time. the sort of mmo that a web site like this should be jubilant over purely because its trying to do something a little different!
Yes there is some technical issues with the game but they are easily overcome with a little research and tweaking which i suspect your reviewer didnt do either.
This is kinda reminding me of the whole Tasos/Darkfall/Eurogamer review scandal. The reviewer hasnt done his job properly AND FE DESERVES A RE-REVIEW!!
If someone is talking in general chat in a language you dont understand, chances are they're not talking to you. So chill out and stop bitching about it!
Nice catch, Lestaticon!
I think at this point he should just come clean. This game is by no means perfect. No mmo is. But Fallen Earth, Icarus, and mmo fans deserve another review, this time by someone with a bit more integrity and a gaming rig that atleast meets recommended specs. Even my outdated rig runs the game better than his computer, if he is to be believed...
/bump this info. Stradden still ignorant?
REALITY CHECK
I'm really curious about the lag comments, because while I've been expecting it as I keep hearing people go "oh boy Embry" and such because of the lag supposedly caused by all the people and horses and such, I actually haven't encountered any lag at all. I mean, I'm glad, I don't want lag, but I don't know where other people with somewhat similar systems are getting it from. The game does seem to be very picky about drivers, maybe it's related?
Bans a perma, but so are sigs in necro posts.
EAT ME MMORPG.com!
Joe Iuliani system specs: aoc re-review
I am running AoC with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 2 Gig Corsair RAM and cable modem.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/15/view/reviews/load/67/World-of-Warcraft-Wrath-of-the-Lich-King-Review.html
Joe Iuliani system specs Wotlk:
Performance/Lag:
I am running the game with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 2 Gig Corsair RAM and cable modem.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/15/view/reviews/load/67/World-of-Warcraft-Wrath-of-the-Lich-King-Review.html
Joe Iuliani Dungeon Runners:
I am running the game with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 2 Gig Corsair RAM and cable modem.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/247/view/reviews/load/59/Dungeon-Runners-Dungeon-Runners-Review.html
Joe Iuliania: Hellgate London
I am running the game with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 2 Gig Corsair RAM and cable modem.
http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/314/view/reviews/load/60/Hellgate-London-Review.html
Is this guy for real? After all these reviews where he wrote his system specs -> now he just lied he didn't mean 2GB ram but 4GB ram? And you stradden just accepts it and let it go?
REALITY CHECK
As pointed out earlier in the thread since it has been shown that the reviewer did not meet the minimum spec the review should be declared void and removed with immediate effect.
What an injustice to Ircarus and FE that a site such as MMORPG.com allows a void review to influence their readers.
I simply cannot understand why the review has not been pulled. In any other industry that has an ounce of self respect this would not happen.
It is a negative advert for FE based on incorrect information(if you do not use the correct insturment to measure readings all results are incorrect, I was taught that at school) which will result in loss of sales for Icarus, I am sure Icarus could be in a position to start some sort of legal proceedings against such mis-information being publically advertised about their product!
QFT!
Look, I (we?) am (are?) not angry at the reviewer. He made a mistake, we all do. All we want is this unfair review taken down.
I have to agree on this one.
2GB of RAM was even too low for Age of Conan last year. Especially if you ran Windows Vista Ultimate. Wich eats up over a Gig of RAM alone for itself already.
I had 2GB of RAM myself last year when playing Age of Conan and I had a lot of lag issues and DC's. Like many other people. Yet that game received a much higher score then FE!
Fallen Earth comes out more then a year later and this reviewer still runs the same hardware, OS and amount of RAM (2GB. As I don't believe his sudden statement that he now suddenly has 4GB in his rig. Now people have critized him.)
Having played both FE and AION. Both having it's major issues. Altho I personally think AION's issues are far worse.
MMORPG.com had so far the best overal reviews. But the AION and FE scores just don't match up. Sorry.
Cheers
QFT!
Look, I (we?) am (are?) not angry at the reviewer. He made a mistake, we all do. All we want is this unfair review taken down.
If you look further into this, this guy's reviews are simply ridiculous:
Age of Conan performance:
Cons
All Classes start the same
Slow Load Time
System Lag
"For the most part, the lag through game play was not frequent. Although when the lag struck, it struck hard. During these lag moments, both the game and my computer would freeze. Additionally there were the occasional moments of game lag during my play time. I couldn't discern a particular pattern of lag, i.e. severe "City Lag" or such, just random moments of annoyance."
Wotlk:
Cons
Customer Service Lacking
Gnome Death Knights (A personal pet peeve!)
Lag in Populated Areas
Hellgate London:
Performance/Lag : 5
"Unfortunately, there were times in densely populated multiplayer areas that the game hung up a quite a bit. This happened almost every time I logged into a zone. The situation would correct itself in time but it became very tedious very quickly"
He is playing games on Vista OS with 2GB ram and wonders about lag? I can't believe it. How could his reviews get past the editor?
REALITY CHECK
That is what I am wondering too. Even now I have 4GB of RAM since October last year.
The single most reason I immediately switched to Windows 7 when the first RC became available back in February, was because of the horrid performance and other issues with games on Windows Vista.
Everyone knows that Windows Vista is one of the worst Operating Systems for gaming. Especially if you just run with 2GB of RAM.
Well, I have AMD Phenom 2 X4 945/4Gb/8800gt. On main street in Embry it was a lagfest. Game def needs better optimization.
Well, I have AMD Phenom 2 X4 945/4Gb/8800gt. On main street in Embry it was a lagfest. Game def needs better optimization.
No one says that. We all know it's a lagfest in busy Towns. Just like it's a total lagfest in the Capital Cities and Eltnen Fortress in AION for example.
But the reviewer claims this game was lagging everywhere. Even in the open world. Wich is simply not true.
I have been playing FE from the Friend and Family Alpha till the end of Closed Beta. And while this game can still use some serious performance optimisations. I never had any lag outside of towns. Sertainly not during the end of Beta.
Cheers
This would never have happened to a AAA review. I fear MMORPG.com has fallen victim to the Gamespot-syndrome. Major advertisers would never be butchered in this way.
In the opinion of this site, Fallen Earth is one of the worst MMORPG's released...
i'd give FE 5 personaly.
crap vehicles, laggy server, aweful FPS mode, STILL no fixes on alot of the expolits, bolted on PvP, skewwif pyshics (buggies/bikes come to dead stops if you hit a brick or a piece of wood on the floor, yet you shot a man and he flys like he was hit with by a train)
crafting was nice until you spent 1 week crafting a cycle/buggy only to find its utterly useless compared to a horse.
i did like scavaging, but even that became a bit of a chore, especially when they diddn't randomly respawn always the same place.
i won't even mention the bodies of water.. yeah real immersion there.
Fallen Earth is pretty awesome. It does not have nearly as pretty graphics as Aeon, but the environment feel is 10 times better than Aeon. I think early reviews are mostly just based on how pretty the game is. Not really enough time to see the real value of the game so soon after release.
Fallen Earths spent all their time pouring content into their game, and Aeon poured all their efforts into graphics (sux running out of quests 1/10th into each level after 25). I am not really marveled by either's PvP so far. Aeon is typical asian gank fest (little real RvR- forts are jokes), and I dont feel a real team play in FE either.
Bump.
He said in all his reviews about lag. No wonder, vista alone lags with 2GB of RAM.
Hmmm, I see the unequivocal lie is still plastered to the front page of this site.
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*from the review
Performance/Lag
I am running Fallen Earth with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 4 Gigs of RAM and cable modem. The game installed without an issue and looked great. Unfortunately during game play is where I ran into considerable lag. By considerable I mean mind numbing, relentless lag. There were moments I would rather slam a part of me in a car door than try and move in the game. In the spirit of fairness, I tried a variety of Internet speed tests to check my connection, no problem there. From there I tried a couple of the more popular games out there, and they all worked just fine. Maybe it was just a glitch, but after multiple days of play, the lag just wouldn't quit. I pray I am in the minority and with luck perhaps I am the only one afflicted with this issue. Playing the game just became painful after awhile. It may be from the fact that there is only one server for the game. I expect a form of lag in the more populated areas, but not when I am running across a secluded wasteland with nothing more than a mutant chicken for company. I don't mind dying from a superior enemy, or even my inability to play a game. But death from lag is just plain unacceptable. I have to say that the folks at Fallen Earth have been making constant improvements from the game launch. Hopefully this issue will be addressed, or perhaps when the game settles into niche, the game may stabilize.
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Yep, that's it. Read through the above paragraph and tell me if it would make more sense if the reviewer had 2 Gigs of RAM instead of 4 whilst running Vista Ultimate. I am in disbelief that the only thing that's been done about it, is the review was edited to accommodate the lie. Someone needs to man up and at the very least, state that you may experience some lag trying to run the game on a "World of Warcraft" rig.
Unbelievable.........
For the record, The only lag I have experienced is an occasional hiccup in a highly populated area such as a city.
~Hairysun
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same, i play the game on max settings and only get about a second or 2 of problems in a city. i never lag anywhere else. err get fps issues.
I read the whole review and the whole thread. I've played Fallen Earth up to level 10 and thought it was an ok game with a lot of potential. I never had any major performance lag issues as stated by the reviewer even in the most popular starting areas.
But the game is not what matters anymore. High reviews or low reviews have nothing to do with the most interesting part of this thread. It's the lie that matters and is interesting.
There was a lie about system specs at some point. It wasn't a mistake. It is now obvious that it was a lie. He ran this game with 2GB of RAM on a machine that runs Vista which is below the minimum specs.
Now, I don't know when the lie happened. It could have been the reviewer lying to the editor. It could be both of them trying to cover it up together and just get past it. The editor may have even not called the reviewer at all.
But there is a lie here. And it is obvious. There should be consideration for pulling the review based on the circumstantial evidence provided by many up till this point.
Fairly sad.. I can have a machine that does not meet the specs of this "reviewer". And I use the term loosely. You can not be a very good reviewer if you can not figure out your issue. My lower spec machine has no lag issues. Sounds to me like your isp or network routing has an issue, or maybe your drivers have an issue. Not to mention you are running Vista Ultimate which just is not the best platform for pc gaming. Any decent gamer knows XP64 or Windows 7 will put Vista to shame in any flavor or configuration. Sad sad reviewer. Awesome game. I give it a 9
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Nice review. Solid facts about FE and some good info also.
About lag. Yeah there is lag, but it isn't near as awful as it is advertised here.
I have Athlon 64 X2 dual at 2.6GHZ, Geforce x260, 6gb RAM and Vista ultimate 64-bit.
The servers are in USA and I'm playing across the Atlantic from Finland and generally have FPS around 100 and in towns near 20-30. Sure some towns are more horrible than others, like each sectors big towns where everyone gather and smap nonsense in local. There I get down to 15FPS which is still really playable (there is no fighting in those towns).
So generally I would say the game has had a nice start and many of the common bugs have been cleared and the lag problem is getting better eventually.
Come and see it yourself if you don't believe us.
Dear MMORPG,
We love you and all that, but please stop this guy from ever writing reviews here, it's not good for your image.
Having lag as the only con and rating the game with 6.9 based on that, does not a professional make. A leet kid maybe. Or a frustrated person that finds the game too hard and blames it on lag. Or he could've just asked around in Regional chat how many people were lagging too, to the point of slamming private parts with a car door or whatever he said he was doing at the time.
Sincerely yours,
me
My prediction is that there will be a swarm of former wow players that will predict that this game will fail in FEs forum. Just becuse it has been reviewed and its one of the front topics atm.
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Fallen Earth - 7.5
The game has certainly sparked some controversy in the forums here, I try to take reviews with a grain of salt. I tend to look for information on the interweb before I spend my money and to tell you the truth mmorpg has led me to spend some cash on some games to try it even if I have my doubts, afterwards...well I had felt it was a waste of money.
Since I trusted their reviews to be unbiased (to a point) and certainly look at all available aspects of the game including future growth.
Fallen Earth has tons of potential, huge amounts, they are listening to their player base, they help in game quite a bit.
Are there issues, heck yes, but name any other mmo out there that does not have at least 1 problem.
Physics needs work and lots of cleaning. ATVs should be faster and if you hit a dirt clod it comes to a complete stop pity it does not throw you over the handle-bars for a half a mile when it happens.
Crafting is nice, that unlike other mmo's I do not have to sit there and wait for it to complete before I can do anything else. So while I am crafting items, I can and will be questing, harvesting etc. Some of the more complex items time to craft can be staggering. (I think as we get those higher skill levels our crafting skill should not only unlock the higher content but drop the crafting time as well)
Combat - I like the ability to pop a shot off through a scope, funny my main character is melee. The AI makes the pathing to you when they run harder to hit them, they tend to weave around but I think that is intentional. They still slide around you even in melee which can make them harder to hit. The AI itself seems to be very limited and things like Mutant chickens attack in the same way as a humanoid which does not feel right. I am sure something will be done about it in the future.
Graphics - Not top of the line, but certainly acceptable and even fun to play in. Do not get me wrong I have played in almost every major released mmo out minus a few Asian games and some are just awesome to look at but I can not get into for anything. The post apoc-look is there and you can feel the dusty air as you play the game.
Pvp - Have not gotten involved with any faction yet, I am still a lowbie in S1. But from what I have been told, people are having fun with it but like the rest of the game, it needs some tweaks.
Lag - Lag seems according to the "official reviewer" a deal breaker and with his spec's I can see why. Running Vista Ultimate on 2 gig just for normal use is ... well I can not write that here on the forums can I. There is still lag in the game, does it make the game unplayable? Not to people I have spoken with and not to me.
Overall, the game needs work, but it seems to have a great support team and there have already been some major work done in the patches and they still took the time to place in an event as well. I am certainly looking forward to playing this game in the future and hope the team at Fallen Earth / Icarus keeps pounding away on the updates.
Why am I 0.6 over the "Official Review" because I have two systems that could actually run not only my operating system but the game properly.
LoL
You know you are old when the dev's on the games you play are almost young enough to be your grand-kids.
A 6,9 just because of the lags at peek times? Please tell me that it is only a joke and its the april 1. The review as it is would be really fine and objective, I just can not explain this extremely low scoreline based on the text.
The point being, MMORPG needs to stop posting reviews by yahoo's like this author and the one who did the Aion review.
Neither of those have one iota of idea how to rate a review. All we end up with is 28 plus pages of irate readers posting how idiotic MMORPG was to post the articles with ratings, no one in their right mind will believe, in the first place.
Until MMORPG takes some actions to correct this rating travesty the critics will have a heyday with you.
Reinstating the review because the author claims he has extra memory now is farcical, it completely ignores the fact that the rating itself is ridiculous. Time to get your act together MMORPG!