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I've been coming here for years. Just about every review or article I've read by Dana I have agreed with to some degree.
I think we see eye to eye on a lot of things.
I completely disagree with his score on this game. I cannot believe that his true review could be summed up
with the score that was provided. I can only assume there was a secondary issue affecting his judgement while writing and
scoring this particular game. It was easy to believe his system was far below the required specs for the game. It is even more
difficult to believe he gave this review using a system that meets or exceeds the specs required.
I hate to say it but I will not be taking Dana's future reviews as seriously because of this.
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Dana Massey did not write, or having anything to do with, this FE review. Thanks for coming.
I think he stated his true specs in the original post.
"I am running AoC with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 2 Gig Corsair RAM and cable modem."
Ive never met anyone call their video ram "Corsair ", only their system ram.
Seriously, I think the reviewer needs to be reviewed.
I know it's a given, but all reviews should have a disclaimer on the bottom stating that the views expressed in the review do not represent the views of MMORPG. That said MMORPG needs to be held somewhat accountable for what they have posted on their site.
A review is opinion and therefore can't be 'wrong' and as Dana has stated the review is the opinion of the reviewer only, I see his point. However Dana has should be held responsible for ensuring the review was fair, how can you take the word of someone on the rating of a game when they personally state they couldn't play it most of the time. Hello?
Wether he likes it or not Dana has to realise that people look at the ratings of games when they come to this site and when they look at that current list of review scores how can you expect to have an ounze of respect? There is absolutely no consistency at all, so what's the point in having it there? In the end it's hard not to believe this was a Eurogamer caper, maybe the hits per month had dropped or something?
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Stradden, don't pull that 'independent reviewer' excuse when you embrace those independent reviewers scores as the "our rating" mmorpg scores.
Kind of a disgrace for mmorpg.com to crush such a great addition to the genre. It isn't perfect yet but it has certain very appealing qualities over other games. I'm really dissappointed in my mmorpg hometurf right now.
Also; the player rating of this game should have rang some bells with the mmorpg.com crew.
Please get some better, objective reviewers and/or give your whole system of reviewing games a solid overhaul. Invite some players to the table as well, and discuss what the 'our rating' will be before you hand out the final verdict.
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Fallen Earth clearly deserves a higher rating then 6.9. With all the work and polish going on, it will soon be a masterpiece. Keep it up devs!
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Interesting.
So the gist of this all is that we had a biased reviewer assigned to the game (this is undeniable, especially when one looks at the writers past reviews and scores), he barely reviews the game at all and then scores it mediocre.
It is shortly after determined that the Reviewer's PC doesn't even meet the minimum requirements, then we are fed some halfbaked excuse by the sites Managing Editor about the reviewers system actually being fine, which is later proven to be false by a forum user.
What a fiasco.
Who cares for what MMORPG says? IGN gave it 8.1 and that was a well written and professional review. Good enough for me. Majority of players know that FE deserves rating between 7 and 8.
Also the lag reviewer mentioned is hardware side and not the server. 2gb ram? really?
I think he stated his true specs in the original post.
"I am running AoC with Windows Vista Ultimate on a Dual Core E6750 @2.66, Dual ATI Radeon HD 3850, 2 Gig Corsair RAM and cable modem."
Ive never met anyone call their video ram "Corsair ", only their system ram.
What?
That kind of set up was barely good to run AoC 2 years ago..................buy more RAM for the win (not that the rest of the system is up for it either)
And then he complains about the lag...................Jeez
Whats up GreenWidow,
Apparently the reviewer was Joe Iuliani.
And was also the reviewer of these games as well.
Dungeon Runners got a 7.9
Age of Conan (Levels 1-20) got a 7.9
Hellgate London a 7.0
Here is the link to other reviewers from mmorpg.com
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/3164970/Is-this-really-the-best-year-of-MMOs-EVER-Really.html#3164970
Just a couple of things to throw out there. All the people whining about 'omg 2 gigs on vista? lawl' are being moronic. 2 gigs on vista is plenty if you set it up right.
Second, it's very, very possible that the reviewer played the game right after release, and based the review on the lag troubles that they had with some locations and connections then. This doesn't necessarily mean that he was having fps problems. It very well could have been lag.
Having said that, I currently run FE on a system that has a slightly worse processor, slightly better ram (still only 2 gigs), same OS, /and/ a much worse graphics card (single X1650 pro) than him, and it works just fine. This is why I'm led to believe he really did have problems with lag, not fps issues.
Now, all that said, I don't agree with the final score. I think it's much, much too harsh for just lag and nothing else.
Just felt I needed to throw my voice out there, to show some of the people on this forum how much they're frothing at the mouth currently. Now, feel free to flame me for my honest post, frothers!
Dear reviewer, ofcourse you suffered so much lag since you are running 2gb ram gaming rig. However, you forgot to differentiate between system and server lag. I would like to review you and give you -1/10 for not even meeting the minimum requirements before attempting to review FE.
Most important is, it's below min. requirement listed on FE website here:
http://www.fallenearth.com/node/16
Minimum Hardware Requirements
CPU: Intel Core 2 Duo 1.8 GHz or Athlon 64X2 2.4 GHz
RAM: 2.0 GB for XP, 3.0 GB for Vista
Stradden response was predictable -> Oh he said 2gb corsair ram? He meant 2gb GPU and 4GB ram.
The reviews were always silly here, but now this is extreme.
REALITY CHECK
I think AION's score was way too high, 7.2 maybe. But obviously, some people around here like much more than I do.
To me, FE's score was a bit to HIGH. I wouldn't give this game more than a 6.5. That's right, I'm not afraid to admit it. This is 2009 and there is absolutely no excuse for the graphics looking like something from around 2002. The gameplay is HORRIBLE. The only saving grace about the entire game is the crafting. It is unique and fun. I wouldn't play this game continously for F2P much less subscription.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
No you are not worth it. And yes 2GB ram might be minimum what is required for Vista but not for playing games on Vista.
I think you have ok points.
But a Reviewer should always 100% of the time review with a machine that meets the games minumum specs. Most review sites/mags will review at recommended specs.
I know it's below min. Just saying, that that doesn't necessarily account for the 'lag' he was having, like all the screaming people on here seem to think. I run it just fine on 2 gigs of ram.
Since when good gameplay has anything to do with shiny graphics? and if you can crank your setting all the way up, FE looks damn good. People like you only care for fluff where as for us who enjoy FE gameplay is what matters.
Since when good gameplay has anything to do with shiny graphics? and if you can crank your setting all the way up, FE looks damn good. People like you only care for fluff where as for us who enjoy FE gameplay is what matters.
Also, Icarus' patch yesterday cleaned up a bunch of their models/meshes that were messed up. It also added a ton of ... er ... very mature voice-overs.
I know it's below min. Just saying, that that doesn't necessarily account for the 'lag' he was having, like all the screaming people on here seem to think. I run it just fine on 2 gigs of ram.
But unless you meet the specs , how can you says its the game on a review?
it's a sad day when crap like aion out scores games like fallen earth
Since when did I say I like graphics over game play? I'm saying that the graphic style there is crap. They could have done a much better job on the graphic style. I'm not talking about system performance because of said graphics. There is a difference. Also, game play is a lot more important to me than mature voice overs. To me, FE devs focused on the wrong things in creating this game. That is the beauty of it all. We are all entitled to our own opinion and IMHO, FE is the suxors and gets a 6.5 at best.
Fear not fanbois, we are not trolls, let's take off your tin foil hat and learn what VAPORWARE is:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware
"Vaporware is a term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product."
Spent all day looking at this thread while at the university on my phone. Finally got home to respond.
Appreciate you looking at it. That said, the only thing this review is good for in my opinion...and apparently alot of others, is a good identifier that Joe Iuliani is not someone for which I will read future reviews. To submit the writeup that he did, with one issue, the last issue, being the only real negative and then slap a 6.9 on it...well let's just say that he isn't in any danger of winning any literary or gaming awards. Indeed, he has lost a tremendous amount of respect from a great deal of gamers.
Not that I for one second believes he gives a damn about our respect, mind you. That there, though, is the crux of the problem. Anyone who is capable of writing in an objective manner would put Fallen earth in the 7.5 to 8.2 out of 10 scale range.
The one good thing this does is quantify and qualify the full measure of Mr. Iuliani's ability to measure a game and give an opinion. On that I'd rate him around 3.1 on a 10 point scale.
As for crucifying you, there's no point in it. You did nothing wrong...save maybe higher someone that has since proven incapable of giving an objective review and a score that matches (granted, he pulled the review part off, it's matching the latter to the former where he's proven wanting).
Maybe you or another senior staff member should be the one reading the reviews and assigning a score based on the review that was written?
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