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Starting again, couple questions.
rando1
Member Posts: 66
in EVE Online
Yet another thread about a newcomer starting EvE-Online. Im going to be honest and say that I will start a miner, but dont know anything about the skills, where should I start? I want to be self sufficient, thats why I want to choose mining profession. Maybe later on I will look into PvP, and I know its the most important aspect of the game. I dont mind PvPing at all, and I like it. But usually I just want to work towards making money, to a point that I can get whatever I want, when I want it. Dont know if its possible to achieve as a miner, but help a newbie out!
Apologies for the bad english.
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Well getting to where you make some money as a miner will take ISK and a bit of time. Skills to work on will be Learning, Spatial Awareness, Instant Recall, Analytical Mind, several skills in the industry skill section, some Engineering skills, Astrology, and drones incase you go below 0.8 systems.
Use EVE Mon for skill recommendations on any mining ship you purchase up to the Hulk, beyond that the Orca and Roqual require more time and money and their use is only for mining operations use.
Oh and the one and only guide to mining is a must to read www.eveonline.com/board/settings.asp.
Thank you for the quick reply. How I should acquire the money for the skills then? What would be the quickest way? Im afraid that the link you pasted doesnt work for me, just brings up some settings. Another question, does the racial combinations matter? I was thinking of going Minmatar, how does that sound?
The best way to get what you need is to join a good, friendly and supportive corp. They should teach you how things work and what to do for money. If they're doing pvp in 0.0, factional warfare or pirating they'll take you with their fleets and give you ships too, so money won't really be an issue while you learn how to sustain yourself.
By the way, mining generally yields terrible rewards for new players. Skilling for combat and running missions will yield a lot of money..only later and with an organized fleet can mining be really profitable.
Im kinda sad to hear this. How about combining mining with manufacturing? making ships, ammo etc? Or is there anything else I could do to help profit with mining?
Look for a friendly mining and manufacturing or whatever type of player corp. your looking for.
Basic mining is easy to get into and will only take three weeks at most to get skills up to get into a retriever.
As said before mining will not make you money right off and not as much as mission running. Manufacturing takes more time to skill up good enough to produce anything of quality and price. Not saying you can't become all these, but it takes some time to get there. Race does not effect your skills in anyway. Mining is basically the most boring (my opinion) job in EVE, but i have done it, also i ran missions as the npc's killed yield salvage that you can sell or make parts from for manufacturing.
Figure out what you want to do and go from there, if you find that you don't like a certain job you won't be screwed and can start over without deleting your character.
basically go to EVE Online site and browse through their forums for any answers you want.
Oh and here is the link fixed www.lsjv-eve.com/completeminersguide/completeminersguide_v3-0.pdf
Woah! Thanks for the link. It will take some time to understand all the stuff in the .pdf, but Im not in a hurry. And I dont expect to make alot of ISK in short period of time. Im pretty sure I will stick with mining/manufacturing at first, even when they seem to be rather boring. I dont mind that, I know that it will help me in the long run hopefully
Thanks again, and take care.
If you have intention to PVP, why bothering with mining...?
I would suggest at least two accounts, if you planning to PvP.
One that focuses on your money supply, whether a mission runner, inventor, miner, manufacturer etc.
If you planning to solo, I would focus on getting a ship that can do level 4 missions. You should be able to do them in Raven with about 3 million SP wih exception of few missions. To optimize this, just have your industry alt train salvaging and you can turn pretty hefty sum of profits with less than two months worth of training.
Solo mining is not that profitable. The real benefit that I can see from that is that you can do it semi-afk.
"The person who experiences greatness must have a feeling for the myth he is in."
Well, I love the idea that I can be semi-afk as a miner, thought it has it's risks. And I like that I have a easy way to earn money. Im sure that my computer wont deal with 2 accounts that well either. Why couldnt I train well in mining, maybe join a corp with strong industrial side? That could be more profitable than solo mining. Just guessing here. Every reply seems that I shouldnt go for mining... but thanks for the input guys, I know you are more experienced than me.
There seems to be this persistent myth that mining is a good way to support PvP, when this hasn't really been true since 2006. Plexing and missioning are significantly more lucrative, and use the same skillset.
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You could easily just make one character a dedicated miner and once your happy with his skills make a new character on the same account and he/she could be your pvper.
This need for everyone to tell everyone else that they need or should get a second account isn't needed.
And before anyone quotes me, No not everyone has a second account.
As an example I have my main Amarr pvp pilot, my Gallente mission runner and a Caldari Trader all on one account.
I trained the mission runner on a alt account for six months and paid to transfer him to my main account but I could have easily only put three months in him while stopping my pvp pilots training.
The only advice I would give you is to not make your miner and pvper the same character since sec status could keep you from parts of high sec if your a dirty little pirate
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Thanks for the reply metal. This sounds great to be honest, the only bad thing is that it will take me alot of time to skill up the both characters right? But I dont really mind that either. Maybe I'll skill up the miner up till she can fly a Hulk and maybe decent manufacturing skills? Then make the PvP character
Mining is a great start actually as a newbie, because it will give you time to read the forums and internet to learn more about Eve in general.
EveMon is a good utility to have to help plan your way to the career you want for your character, it also can hook into battle clinic and give you ideas on load outs and ship skills etc.
There are several sites which I do not have access to on this computer right now that give you more information on different aspects of Eve, it is a huge environment and tons of things to do.
I would suggest maybe getting involved with some people in game (small corp / friends), because mining can burn you out and can get monotonous, but that is mitigated if you have others just to bs with while tearing the roids up.
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