Any hope for an "EvE lite"?

ValiumSummer

I mostly love EvE and have played it intermittently since launch.   Many would say the reason EvE is so popular with its fans is the open PvP and the death penalty.   Ironically, some could argue that is the reason why EvE is NOT as popular as some of the more successful MMO's (past and present).  

I don't expect (nor do I want) ccp to ever change EvE to cater to my carebear ways.   I fully understand how dynamic EvE is and how catastrophic such changes would be to the current player base.

But as I  get older and more  mellow I find my appetite for pvp is almost nil.  Last time I enjoyed any type of PvP online was Mechwarrior 3 (I went through 3 sidewinder joysticks!).     In WoW I made it to lvl 70 without a single honor kill (currently lvl 80 and have roughly 60 honor kills ...PHEAR ME!).

WoW has "pvp" servers.   I know ccp's single server cluster is expensive as all hell, but I wonder if they have ever considered starting a new "cluster" with a different rule set that might cater to players young and old who enjoy PvE over PvP.

 

(edit: changed "light" to "lite" in the subject heading.

Malcanis

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Unlikely.

Sheista

Never going to happen.  Doesn't need to happen, as EVE without its harsh ruleset would not function and would no longer be the same game.

cosy

eve is one server game and will remain like that untill end of time*

 

* I hope so

metalhead980

Originally posted by ValiumSummer


I mostly love EvE and have played it intermittently since launch.   Many would say the reason EvE is so popular with its fans is the open PvP and the death penalty.   Ironically, some could argue that is the reason why EvE is NOT as popular as some of the more successful MMO's (past and present).  
I don't expect (nor do I want) ccp to ever change EvE to cater to my carebear ways.   I fully understand how dynamic EvE is and how catastrophic such changes would be to the current player base.
But as I  get older and more  mellow I find my appetite for pvp is almost nil.  Last time I enjoyed any type of PvP online was Mechwarrior 3 (I went through 3 sidewinder joysticks!).     In WoW I made it to lvl 70 without a single honor kill (currently lvl 80 and have roughly 60 honor kills ...PHEAR ME!).
WoW has "pvp" servers.   I know ccp's single server cluster is expensive as all hell, but I wonder if they have ever considered starting a new "cluster" with a different rule set that might cater to players young and old who enjoy PvE over PvP.

 

Stay in Empire, Stay in a NPC corp and make a custom chat channels for friends to join.

Running missions in empire and Exploring Combat sites in Empire is bascially like playing a pve game.

Empire = Eve lite.

Xennith

a pve server would die a laughable death. all the major nullsec alliances would start new characters and go and goldrush all of nullsec, with no pvp once the towers are down, they're staying there.

 

with no ship losses, the industry would grind to a halt and with nothing to spend money on, the server population would leave en mass.

Kyleran

Also, consider joining a good wormhole crew.  PVP is rare (but not non-existent) and you can make lots of money ratting sleepers.  Also would be considered to be EVE - lite.

 

Dalmont

Jesus, how silly!

EVE has eve light as people say, the empire space! Even that is changed as well with the different wars going on.

EVE you can go slow or you can go fast in 0.0 space.

I have been podded and ransomed by pirates when I went in 0.4 space...and as I'm not ready for it I don't go there any more..

*sighs* 

EVE is not just PVP, it can be  PVRoid if you want and has been since day one

nickelpat

 I have played, for 6 months, in Empire and had a lot of fun. I fit my current ship (the Navy Mega) and am starting to venture into Low Sec. The game has a lot to offer other than the PvP. It's just that people don't realize it all the time.

thexrated

Originally posted by Xennith


a pve server would die a laughable death. all the major nullsec alliances would start new characters and go and goldrush all of nullsec, with no pvp once the towers are down, they're staying there.
 
with no ship losses, the industry would grind to a halt and with nothing to spend money on, the server population would leave en mass.

QFT

 

Spiider

 Removing PVP from EVE is like removing O2 from air we breed.

Cyborg99

While I disagree with your "Eve Light" idea  I do wish CCP would release an Eve single player game. I love the Eve lore and environment but the Eve community is the worst out of every mmo I've played. I would gladly pay $15 a month to play a Eve single player.

 

Edit: Also I think the op means "Eve Lite".  Lite meaning an innocuous or unthreatening version of Eve Online

ValiumSummer

Originally posted by Cyborg99


While I disagree with your "Eve Light" idea  I do wish CCP would release an Eve single player game. I love the Eve lore and environment but the Eve community is the worst out of every mmo I've played. I would gladly pay $15 a month to play a Eve single player.
 
Edit: Also I think the op means "Eve Lite".  Lite meaning an innocuous or unthreatening version of Eve Online

 

Yes.  I  did in fact mean "lite"  not "light".   Thankyou.

 

And I very much like your idea for an EvE single player game...PACKED full of the ships and crazy loot that is available in the online version.

 

I've heard freelancer is a good game I might give that a try.

 

Based on the responses I got here I'll abandon my hopes for an EvE 'lite'. 

Gdemami

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Originally posted by ValiumSummer
I fully understand how dynamic EvE is and how catastrophic such changes would be to the current player base.

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No, you don't understand anything. This is not about playerbase, EVE would simply not work without death penalty and PVP.

ValiumSummer

Originally posted by Gdemami


 

Originally posted by ValiumSummer

I fully understand how dynamic EvE is and how catastrophic such changes would be to the current player base.

 

No, you don't understand anything. This is not about playerbase, EVE would simply not work without death penalty and PVP.

I concede that EvE would not work in the same way it does now.  I'll even say that it would be come a very different game.

But I disagree with you that it would simply "not work" and that  I "don't understand anything" .   

I've played the game (a lot).  I started 3 days after launch.   At one time I was running 4 accounts.   Two accounts date back to June 2004.   I remember the gate camps by the dreaded corp "MoO".     I remember Moa's were the best ship you could buy.   I remember when they introduced battleships.   I've quit and resubbled 4 separate times since launch.  

Its a great game.

Obviously... if the death penalty was reduced/removed and PvP was to become more restricted... there would probably have to be other changes to the game to make it more viable.  It would undoubtedly become a very different experience then it is now.

I'll reiterate what I said in my original post.   My desire is not for EvE to change its ruleset on the existing cluster, but rather to start another cluster with a ruleset aimed at the less "hardcore" .   I fully understand how Empire space works.  

Its really a yes or no answer.

Gdemami

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Originally posted by ValiumSummer
I concede that EvE would not work in the same way it does now. I'll even say that it would be come a very different game.But I disagree with you that it would simply "not work" and that I "don't understand anything" . I've played the game (a lot). I started 3 days after launch. At one time I was running 4 accounts. Two accounts date back to June 2004. I remember the gate camps by the dreaded corp "MoO". I remember Moa's were the best ship you could buy. I remember when they introduced battleships. I've quit and resubbled 4 separate times since launch. Its a great game.Obviously... if the death penalty was reduced/removed and PvP was to become more restricted... there would probably have to be other changes to the game to make it more viable. It would undoubtedly become a very different experience then it is now.I'll reiterate what I said in my original post. My desire is not for EvE to change its ruleset on the existing cluster, but rather to start another cluster with a ruleset aimed at the less "hardcore" . I fully understand how Empire space works. Its really a yes or no answer.

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PVE server means that you could do what you are doing now - endless mission grinding.
There would be no economy - no room for manufacturing, research, mining, exploration, moon mining.

So no, EVE would not work because those are corner stones of the game.

If you want to play some dumb game, go ahead. There are many you can choose from.

Kyleran

Hmm, OK, OP, if you've played this much EVE and you know how PVE friendly the game actually can be I'm not quite sure what part of the game you feel shut out of and need a new server for.

Is it because PVE'er are shut out of 0.0, the resources it contains and the ability to control space/stations?

Just  trying to understand your motivation because so far I don't see it.

 

BloodDuality

Eve would require a complete rework because aliances controling space is one of the biggest things. With losses and a cost to pvp the systems in place for gaining territory wouldn't work. Eve is based on atrition from fighting ultimatly causing people to give up the fight because they can no longer afford to fight any longer.

huntard

Originally posted by metalhead980


Stay in Empire, Stay in a NPC corp and make a custom chat channels for friends to join.


Running missions in empire and Exploring Combat sites in Empire is bascially like playing a pve game.


Empire = Eve lite.

 

What he said, its also one of the reasons why Eve is so unique by having the ability to actually do just about anything you want.

 

PatchDay

Originally posted by ValiumSummer

Originally posted by Gdemami


 

Originally posted by ValiumSummer

I fully understand how dynamic EvE is and how catastrophic such changes would be to the current player base.

 

No, you don't understand anything. This is not about playerbase, EVE would simply not work without death penalty and PVP.

I concede that EvE would not work in the same way it does now.  I'll even say that it would be come a very different game.

But I disagree with you that it would simply "not work" and that  I "don't understand anything" .   

I've played the game (a lot).  I started 3 days after launch.   At one time I was running 4 accounts.   Two accounts date back to June 2004.   I remember the gate camps by the dreaded corp "MoO".     I remember Moa's were the best ship you could buy.   I remember when they introduced battleships.   I've quit and resubbled 4 separate times since launch.  

Its a great game.

Obviously... if the death penalty was reduced/removed and PvP was to become more restricted... there would probably have to be other changes to the game to make it more viable.  It would undoubtedly become a very different experience then it is now.

I'll reiterate what I said in my original post.   My desire is not for EvE to change its ruleset on the existing cluster, but rather to start another cluster with a ruleset aimed at the less "hardcore" .   I fully understand how Empire space works.  

Its really a yes or no answer.

 

No

Staatsschutz

never going to happen. but its not needed either. if you dont like pvp, you can just stay in high sec

ChromeBallz

CCP have said time and time again that the entire point of EVE was to have everyone in the same universe. With Dust 514 they prove this again. They will never, ever make a second shard, the one exception being China because of legal reasons.

They haven't even considered to consider it. EVE is designed to be just one shard, one realm. Even if it gets "full", they will simply make the one shard bigger rather than add a second one.