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I'm voting with my wallet

After witnessing and reading about developers and their companies, and how much guile they have, I think I may not buy another MMORPG or Video Game for a long time.



Not only do I find myself not on the same page with what Is being created, but the heartlessness of the CEO's and their developers hurts.



There is just too much deception coming from these companies and their creations for me to want to currently support them with my money or time.



Now this deception and guile could have existed in the gaming industry for a long time, in fact even in the Atari / Famicom days there may have been quite a bit of it



To conclude : I am not going to blindly encourage and support these heartless and cruel companies.

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  • RavZterzRavZterz Member UncommonPosts: 618

    Some background info would be nice.  Any specific example that made you decide to stop buying games?  I'm curious.

    Make games you want to play.

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  • Legato89Legato89 Member Posts: 297

    Think hes referring to Activision and their CEO

  • IbluerateIbluerate Member Posts: 256

    Really...

    I don't care if the people making it are total dicks, if the game is good, I'll play it.

    Think of it this way...

    ...people with power are usually dicks.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955
    Originally posted by spyboy2000


    After witnessing and reading about developers and their companies, and how much guile they have, I think I may not buy another MMORPG or Video Game for a long time.



    Not only do I find myself not on the same page with what Is being created, but the heartlessness of the CEO's and their developers hurts.



    There is just too much deception coming from these companies and their creations for me to want to currently support them with my money or time.



    Now this deception and guile could have existed in the gaming industry for a long time, in fact even in the Atari / Famicom days there may have been quite a bit of it



    To conclude : I am not going to blindly encourage and support these heartless and cruel companies.



     

    I wholly support your decision to act in this manner.

    However, does your decision only go for video games or are you going to extend it to other avenues of entertainment such as movies, music, Television, etc?

    Because all of these entertaiment types have the same issues, ceo's trying to figure out how to make more money, music moguls encouraging the same boring type of music over and over and over, Television shows that really are there just so advertisers can have your eyes.

    It's not just video games that suffer from the pitfalls of business tactics.

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  • spyboy2000spyboy2000 Member Posts: 27
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by spyboy2000


    After witnessing and reading about developers and their companies, and how much guile they have, I think I may not buy another MMORPG or Video Game for a long time.



    Not only do I find myself not on the same page with what Is being created, but the heartlessness of the CEO's and their developers hurts.



    There is just too much deception coming from these companies and their creations for me to want to currently support them with my money or time.



    Now this deception and guile could have existed in the gaming industry for a long time, in fact even in the Atari / Famicom days there may have been quite a bit of it



    To conclude : I am not going to blindly encourage and support these heartless and cruel companies.



     

    I wholly support your decision to act in this manner.

    However, does your decision only go for video games or are you going to extend it to other avenues of entertainment such as movies, music, Television, etc?

    Because all of these entertaiment types have the same issues, ceo's trying to figure out how to make more money, music moguls encouraging the same boring type of music over and over and over, Television shows that really are there just so advertisers can have your eyes.

    It's not just video games that suffer from the pitfalls of business tactics.



    Yes, this decision also applies to everything else as well. :)

  • CaleveiraCaleveira Member Posts: 556

    even the internet?

    Just to make things clear...
    I speak for myself and no one else, unless i state otherwise mine is just an opinion. A fact is something that can be independently verified, you may challenge such but with proof. You have every right to disagree with me through sound argument, i believe in constructive debate, but baseless aggression will warrant an unkind response.

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955
    Originally posted by spyboy2000

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by spyboy2000


    After witnessing and reading about developers and their companies, and how much guile they have, I think I may not buy another MMORPG or Video Game for a long time.



    Not only do I find myself not on the same page with what Is being created, but the heartlessness of the CEO's and their developers hurts.



    There is just too much deception coming from these companies and their creations for me to want to currently support them with my money or time.



    Now this deception and guile could have existed in the gaming industry for a long time, in fact even in the Atari / Famicom days there may have been quite a bit of it



    To conclude : I am not going to blindly encourage and support these heartless and cruel companies.



     

    I wholly support your decision to act in this manner.

    However, does your decision only go for video games or are you going to extend it to other avenues of entertainment such as movies, music, Television, etc?

    Because all of these entertaiment types have the same issues, ceo's trying to figure out how to make more money, music moguls encouraging the same boring type of music over and over and over, Television shows that really are there just so advertisers can have your eyes.

    It's not just video games that suffer from the pitfalls of business tactics.



    Yes, this decision also applies to everything else as well. :)



     

    Well, then rock on spyboy, rock on.

    I don't know how successful you will be as you will most likely read about other companies who will most likely deserve to fall into your category of evil.

    And of course a question you will want to ask yourself is how far  are you willing to go? Because it can extend to the clothes you buy, food you eat and all the way to your investments. If you look at your mutual funds or retirement account more closely you might see companies that are notorious for bad behavior. Whether its infringing on water rights or child labor, they are there.

    However, there are funds that invest in more people and enviornmentally frienldy companies. You might have to find a broker that deals with these funds but they are there.

    good luck!

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  • blackthornnblackthornn Member UncommonPosts: 617

    Avoiding anything related to money hungry pricks out to make a profit, consumer be damned.........

    so no more name brand foods, no more fast food, no more tv, movies, music, gaming, surfing the net (all that advertising trying to screw ppl over..and Bill Gate's owning the opsys rights on your computer....ack, quick smash the computer)....you'll be rich!!! :P

     

    Honestly, good luck with it, but EVERYTHING's out to screw everyone over for profit nowadays.  I'd suggest a cabin way way out in the woods somewhere....but even then, someone'll probably try to rip you off selling it to you and not mention the leaky roof.

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  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 32,955
    Originally posted by blackthornn


    Avoiding anything related to money hungry pricks out to make a profit, consumer be damned.........
    so no more name brand foods, no more fast food, no more tv, movies, music, gaming, surfing the net (all that advertising trying to screw ppl over)....you'll be rich!!! :P
     
    Honestly, good luck with it, but EVERYTHING's out to screw everyone over for profit nowadays.  I'd suggest a cabin way way out in the woods somewhere....but even then, someone'll probably try to rip you off selling it to you and not mention the leaky roof.



     

    You are right in many ways. I have friends who are tying to get off the grid as much as possible. However they have had to make some concessions. They do actually live in a somewhat out of the way town in Maine though ; )

    If one is truly convinced of the goal then it can be quite easy. Heck, years ago (1987) I made a decision not to purchase certain types of products and with the exception of some accdidents here and there have been very successful. I won't go into it as I do these things for my own edification but it has been quite easy for the very reason that I truly believed in my decision.

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  • TheHatterTheHatter Member Posts: 2,547

    Your wallet won't make a difference, that's for sure.

     

    But, it is good to know that people think along the same lines I do. Like, if I pirate a program or game and it's a good game.... I'm going to go buy it (if I can't afford it.... ***cough***Adobe****cough) just because those people deserve my money. I think it's ok, because if I don't like then I'm probably not going to use the program or play the game anyway.

    Also, I am a die hard Adult Swim fan. But when the "British Office", "Mighty Boosh", or "Xavier: Renegade Angel" comes on, I will change the channel, even if I'm not watching TV and just have it on for background noise while I'm on the computer or playing a game. Not that me changing the channel will do anything, but at least I'm not adding to any kind of viewer numbers (however the get those, idk) or anything like that. I freaking hate those shows.

  • spyboy2000spyboy2000 Member Posts: 27
    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by spyboy2000

    Originally posted by Sovrath

    Originally posted by spyboy2000


    After witnessing and reading about developers and their companies, and how much guile they have, I think I may not buy another MMORPG or Video Game for a long time.



    Not only do I find myself not on the same page with what Is being created, but the heartlessness of the CEO's and their developers hurts.



    There is just too much deception coming from these companies and their creations for me to want to currently support them with my money or time.



    Now this deception and guile could have existed in the gaming industry for a long time, in fact even in the Atari / Famicom days there may have been quite a bit of it



    To conclude : I am not going to blindly encourage and support these heartless and cruel companies.



     

    I wholly support your decision to act in this manner.

    However, does your decision only go for video games or are you going to extend it to other avenues of entertainment such as movies, music, Television, etc?

    Because all of these entertaiment types have the same issues, ceo's trying to figure out how to make more money, music moguls encouraging the same boring type of music over and over and over, Television shows that really are there just so advertisers can have your eyes.

    It's not just video games that suffer from the pitfalls of business tactics.



    Yes, this decision also applies to everything else as well. :)



     

    Well, then rock on spyboy, rock on.

    I don't know how successful you will be as you will most likely read about other companies who will most likely deserve to fall into your category of evil.

    And of course a question you will want to ask yourself is how far  are you willing to go? Because it can extend to the clothes you buy, food you eat and all the way to your investments. If you look at your mutual funds or retirement account more closely you might see companies that are notorious for bad behavior. Whether its infringing on water rights or child labor, they are there.

    However, there are funds that invest in more people and enviornmentally frienldy companies. You might have to find a broker that deals with these funds but they are there.

    good luck!

     

    Well I'll do my best but I'm aware you can only go to such an extreme before you start getting into some problems. There has to be some level of balance, because North America is on some levels one big corporate giant.

  • XenorusXenorus Member Posts: 37

    Im not really suprised by the greed and I don't think too many other people are. Im suprised by the way it was done though, cos its not often they just come out and blatently spit the greed down their suits for people to see. I'd have expected him to say that increasing development costs and the fact that they are living in near poverty meant that they needed to raise costs in order to survive as a company. Costs can go up naturally as inflation takes hold, or they can go up as a result of a product that shines as a higher level of entertainment way above the rest.

    Problem is most "hardcore" gamers nowadays are happy to reward mediocre developments and ever increasing numbers of a familiar title. The hardcore gamers beings the ones that HAVE TO HAVE the new call of duty regardless of the cost because now its a fashion statement. You know like people that HAVE TO HAVE the latest fashion as soon as its available regardless of the cost.

    I hope there is a light at the end of the tunnel, I mean, the greed of the banks took their economy to the brink of collapse and dragged a good share of the ecomomy from most countries with them. Hopefully some day in the future the gaming industry can enjoy a good old collapse under greed and the backlash will force people out of the fad, and force developers to go back to their roots.

     

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  • blackthornnblackthornn Member UncommonPosts: 617

    I've done similar on a smaller scale.  I was so completely disgusted with Wizards of the Coast when they released 4th edition dnd I blacklisted WoTC and Hasbro as a whole.  I still do buy some things from Hasbro subsidiaries, but anything with the main Hasbro logo or WoTC doesn't come into my home anymore.

    My decision was based off the way they immediately banned any companies from using the old 3/3.5 open license formats, removed all WoTC pdf's from online download stores (which part of the purchase deals was the ability to redownload if needed, so they robbed past customers with no compensation), and started sending cease and desist letters and rabid attack lawyers after FAN SITES if they mentioned any rules info on 4th edition at all (some claims were made it was only on character generators, rules summaries, etc but my cousin actually got one of the letters for mentioning in a blog that a +3 longsword was 1d8+3 for damage...oooooh what a game mechanics infringement).

     

    So yeah, I do support your effort, but it's tough enough blacklisting one company and one of it's subsidiaries (omg, 3 kids and no Hasbro's not easy :P).  Best of luck )

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  • GorakkhGorakkh Member Posts: 694

    I respect your decision. What good is a human being without a heart? But you know the saying ''Love your enemy.''

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