xfire is still all you're going to bring to the table? Don't wanna listen to anyone currently playing? Everyone one of us are just out to lie and promote (in my case) some random foreign mmo. Ya that's my agenda. Hasn't "fail" been old since..... since far too long. Get some new material man.
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
xfire is still all you're going to bring to the table? Don't wanna listen to anyone currently playing? Everyone one of us are just out to lie and promote (in my case) some random foreign mmo. Ya that's my agenda. Hasn't "fail" been old since..... since far too long. Get some new material man.
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I did say in my post "Hardly concrete evidence, but for the curious that is my experience."
So I'm obviously not proving anything. I'm only letting people know who are checking the game out (which is a lot atm) how things are shaping up. Guy you need to realize most of us don't use xfire, or any other program that tells you your play time in any given game. How is a program like that supposed to give an accurate reading for any kind of trend with a game like DF?
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
xfire is still all you're going to bring to the table? Don't wanna listen to anyone currently playing? Everyone one of us are just out to lie and promote (in my case) some random foreign mmo. Ya that's my agenda. Hasn't "fail" been old since..... since far too long. Get some new material man.
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I did say in my post "Hardly concrete evidence, but for the curious that is my experience."
So I'm obviously not proving anything. I'm only letting people know who are checking the game out (which is a lot atm) how things are shaping up. Guy you need to realize most of us don't use xfire, or any other program that tells you your play time in any given game. How is a program like that supposed to give an accurate reading for any kind of trend with a game like DF?
You have one thing very correct in your reasoning, the game is nothing except the part you feel. 1090000 online won't cut it unless you enjoy their presence, actually they might contribute to lags and channel spams ---> Dalarn of WoW. 50 online is good enough if the game is fun with these people. You do not need to prove to anyone that DF provides enough good people to make it a game fun and lively for you. That is your game your sub.
Ghoul is looking at it from the point of an observer. That is where statistics comes in, where generalisation, comments, views are formed. You opinion counts as 1 person, and that will be weighed against those of others. It appears that statistics and cold hard facts weigh against you passion. Population in DF, interest in DF and everything about DF is falling, despite the fanatic (apparent or sincere, god knows) of AV to pop things up. This seems to be opinioin shared by quite a lot of people.
Now does it matter to your game play? No. Can ghoul take a different perspective and mingle your unique view with other evidence or views? Sure. No conflict there.
xfire is still all you're going to bring to the table? Don't wanna listen to anyone currently playing? Everyone one of us are just out to lie and promote (in my case) some random foreign mmo. Ya that's my agenda. Hasn't "fail" been old since..... since far too long. Get some new material man.
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I did say in my post "Hardly concrete evidence, but for the curious that is my experience."
So I'm obviously not proving anything. I'm only letting people know who are checking the game out (which is a lot atm) how things are shaping up. Guy you need to realize most of us don't use xfire, or any other program that tells you your play time in any given game. How is a program like that supposed to give an accurate reading for any kind of trend with a game like DF?
You have one thing very correct in your reasoning, the game is nothing except the part you feel. 1090000 online won't cut it unless you enjoy their presence, actually they might contribute to lags and channel spams ---> Dalarn of WoW. 50 online is good enough if the game is fun with these people. You do not need to prove to anyone that DF provides enough good people to make it a game fun and lively for you. That is your game your sub.
Ghoul is looking at it from the point of an observer. That is where statistics comes in, where generalisation, comments, views are formed. You opinion counts as 1 person, and that will be weighed against those of others. It appears that statistics and cold hard facts weigh against you passion. Population in DF, interest in DF and everything about DF is falling, despite the fanatic (apparent or sincere, god knows) of AV to pop things up. This seems to be opinioin shared by quite a lot of people.
Now does it matter to your game play? No. Can ghoul take a different perspective and mingle your unique view with other evidence or views? Sure. No conflict there.
For a non-competitive game, i might agree with you, but Darkfall was allegedly designed to hold up to 10k players at a time, was allegedly designed for epic, massive battles and was designed with a huge, non-instanced world that could hold all those players and battles. Unfortunately, the actual population is very small, so there aren't any huge, epic battles, nor are there bustling cities, massive raids, large scale political plots, etc... There are hubs of activities with concentrated populations of players and relatively small marauding parties, but nothing to the scale the game was made for. As such, play--as a whole--does suffer due to the population. Yes, of course people have fun, but the game is a shadow of what it could be. I'd love to see what kind of mayhem could be wrought on a highly populated server!
For a non-competitive game, i might agree with you, but Darkfall was allegedly designed to hold up to 10k players at a time, was allegedly designed for epic, massive battles and was designed with a huge, non-instanced world that could hold all those players and battles. Unfortunately, the actual population is very small, so there aren't any huge, epic battles, nor are there bustling cities, massive raids, large scale political plots, etc... There are hubs of activities with concentrated populations of players and relatively small marauding parties, but nothing to the scale the game was made for. As such, play--as a whole--does suffer due to the population. Yes, of course people have fun, but the game is a shadow of what it could be. I'd love to see what kind of mayhem could be wrought on a highly populated server! ~Ripper
Well said rhinok, I hope we both see the day.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
For a non-competitive game, i might agree with you, but Darkfall was allegedly designed to hold up to 10k players at a time, was allegedly designed for epic, massive battles and was designed with a huge, non-instanced world that could hold all those players and battles. Unfortunately, the actual population is very small, so there aren't any huge, epic battles, nor are there bustling cities, massive raids, large scale political plots, etc... There are hubs of activities with concentrated populations of players and relatively small marauding parties, but nothing to the scale the game was made for. As such, play--as a whole--does suffer due to the population. Yes, of course people have fun, but the game is a shadow of what it could be. I'd love to see what kind of mayhem could be wrought on a highly populated server! ~Ripper
Well said rhinok, I hope we both see the day.
There is one factor in favour of DF right now. Absence of competition.
The other games that seems to be threatening DF are not yet ready for launch. So DF offers the only option of its kind, for whatever population still out there. The factor of novelty is over, though.
Time is not on the side of AV. They need to get their act together and secure a bridgehead before the next wave comes.
An interesting thing, not as a flame bait, is, how well is FE holding up?
Yup, it's well known people dismiss estimations and statistics using many lousy reasons when those estimations and statistics don't go their way. You can bet that if DFO was beating Aion on xfire, you'd have the whole fanboi crowd here praising it. Fanbois of huge MMO failures never like to be shown the truth. I'll be around to laugh when darkfall closes due to lack of subscriptions, not generating enough money to maintain servers and, most important, to pay the developers. Because "zomg I'm so cool I like to be a niche" doesn't work anymore when you're out of money. Or do you think money grows on trees in Greece? I doubt darkfall will survive coming year 2010, specially with the new MMOs coming out in that year. Mark my words, we'll talk again about it soon.
its not going to happen unless they lose way more subs. and to be honest i think the subs are increasing. i would be playing if it wasnt for the meele being like quake speed : (. plus im already subbed to iracing
Hey downtoearth, so you're still around? Well I have to say you were right and DFO wasn't Vapourware and I'm actually playing it (and enjoying it) now. So I guess I finally cede defeat! Also I apologize for ripping into you about DFO and Aventurine, I felt it was warranted at the time however I was wrong as it did release ans Aventurine have now got their shit together.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
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I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I did say in my post "Hardly concrete evidence, but for the curious that is my experience."
So I'm obviously not proving anything. I'm only letting people know who are checking the game out (which is a lot atm) how things are shaping up. Guy you need to realize most of us don't use xfire, or any other program that tells you your play time in any given game. How is a program like that supposed to give an accurate reading for any kind of trend with a game like DF?
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I did say in my post "Hardly concrete evidence, but for the curious that is my experience."
So I'm obviously not proving anything. I'm only letting people know who are checking the game out (which is a lot atm) how things are shaping up. Guy you need to realize most of us don't use xfire, or any other program that tells you your play time in any given game. How is a program like that supposed to give an accurate reading for any kind of trend with a game like DF?
You have one thing very correct in your reasoning, the game is nothing except the part you feel. 1090000 online won't cut it unless you enjoy their presence, actually they might contribute to lags and channel spams ---> Dalarn of WoW. 50 online is good enough if the game is fun with these people. You do not need to prove to anyone that DF provides enough good people to make it a game fun and lively for you. That is your game your sub.
Ghoul is looking at it from the point of an observer. That is where statistics comes in, where generalisation, comments, views are formed. You opinion counts as 1 person, and that will be weighed against those of others. It appears that statistics and cold hard facts weigh against you passion. Population in DF, interest in DF and everything about DF is falling, despite the fanatic (apparent or sincere, god knows) of AV to pop things up. This seems to be opinioin shared by quite a lot of people.
Now does it matter to your game play? No. Can ghoul take a different perspective and mingle your unique view with other evidence or views? Sure. No conflict there.
I provide facts. You provide nothing. At least provide screenshots of these tons of people. The only thing you ever provide are personal insults.
I did say in my post "Hardly concrete evidence, but for the curious that is my experience."
So I'm obviously not proving anything. I'm only letting people know who are checking the game out (which is a lot atm) how things are shaping up. Guy you need to realize most of us don't use xfire, or any other program that tells you your play time in any given game. How is a program like that supposed to give an accurate reading for any kind of trend with a game like DF?
You have one thing very correct in your reasoning, the game is nothing except the part you feel. 1090000 online won't cut it unless you enjoy their presence, actually they might contribute to lags and channel spams ---> Dalarn of WoW. 50 online is good enough if the game is fun with these people. You do not need to prove to anyone that DF provides enough good people to make it a game fun and lively for you. That is your game your sub.
Ghoul is looking at it from the point of an observer. That is where statistics comes in, where generalisation, comments, views are formed. You opinion counts as 1 person, and that will be weighed against those of others. It appears that statistics and cold hard facts weigh against you passion. Population in DF, interest in DF and everything about DF is falling, despite the fanatic (apparent or sincere, god knows) of AV to pop things up. This seems to be opinioin shared by quite a lot of people.
Now does it matter to your game play? No. Can ghoul take a different perspective and mingle your unique view with other evidence or views? Sure. No conflict there.
For a non-competitive game, i might agree with you, but Darkfall was allegedly designed to hold up to 10k players at a time, was allegedly designed for epic, massive battles and was designed with a huge, non-instanced world that could hold all those players and battles. Unfortunately, the actual population is very small, so there aren't any huge, epic battles, nor are there bustling cities, massive raids, large scale political plots, etc... There are hubs of activities with concentrated populations of players and relatively small marauding parties, but nothing to the scale the game was made for. As such, play--as a whole--does suffer due to the population. Yes, of course people have fun, but the game is a shadow of what it could be. I'd love to see what kind of mayhem could be wrought on a highly populated server!
~Ripper
Well said rhinok, I hope we both see the day.
"Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb
Well said rhinok, I hope we both see the day.
There is one factor in favour of DF right now. Absence of competition.
The other games that seems to be threatening DF are not yet ready for launch. So DF offers the only option of its kind, for whatever population still out there. The factor of novelty is over, though.
Time is not on the side of AV. They need to get their act together and secure a bridgehead before the next wave comes.
An interesting thing, not as a flame bait, is, how well is FE holding up?
its not going to happen unless they lose way more subs. and to be honest i think the subs are increasing. i would be playing if it wasnt for the meele being like quake speed : (. plus im already subbed to iracing
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#200.
Highest: #49 on 2009-03-18
you fail.
Xfire messes up darkfall most people dont use it
Hey downtoearth, so you're still around? Well I have to say you were right and DFO wasn't Vapourware and I'm actually playing it (and enjoying it) now. So I guess I finally cede defeat! Also I apologize for ripping into you about DFO and Aventurine, I felt it was warranted at the time however I was wrong as it did release ans Aventurine have now got their shit together.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience"
CS Lewis