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Does it sadden any of you when you return to an old mmorpg?

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  • Predator160Predator160 Member Posts: 128

    I played EQ1 when I was in 4th grade (im in college now)...thinking back to that game reminds me so much of my childhood, like the music, sports, and clothes i was into (i stopped playing baseball because of my EQ addiction, sad but true)...i miss it like crazy and I wish i could go back AND have the same feel as I first did. However, even if I could go back to the original EQ (or any other old MMO) it wouldn't be the same. I would percieve the world different now than when i was 11. OP your right when you say it's like returning to your home town, a game may give bring you back fond memories but it's never going to be the same as when you first played it.

  • PersephassaPersephassa Member Posts: 223
    Originally posted by Predator160


    I played EQ1 when I was in 4th grade (im in college now)...thinking back to that game reminds me so much of my childhood, like the music, sports, and clothes i was into (i stopped playing baseball because of my EQ addiction, sad but true)...i miss it like crazy and I wish i could go back AND have the same feel as I first did. However, even if I could go back to the original EQ (or any other old MMO) it would be the same. I would percieve the world different now than when i was 11. OP your right when you say it's like returning to your home town, a game may give bring you back fond memories but it's never going to be the same as when you first played it.

    I think that's very true when it comes to things in our past that were very social. Our expectations change and we forget that as children or teens we perceived things in a different way. It's like how old people like to rant about their glory days or how 20-30 year olds like to reminisce about high school years.

     

    Oddly enough, I can play games from my childhood (NES games like Legend of Zelda, Super Mario, Sonic) and have a lot of fun, but playing with friends on Diablo 2 or going to LAN parties wouldn't be nearly as fun now.

  • NirwylNirwyl Member Posts: 103

    It does sadden me. It leaves a big empty place in my heart where pure unfettered Joy used to be.

    My first MMO was Asheron's Call, this was many many years ago when it was just UO/EQ/AC as far as MMOs went. I would spend hours each day playing that game, meeting friends and killing things, standing around the blacksmith waiting for people to sell loot so I could see if they had found anything good. The exploration, stepping through that portal to the unknown...still remember that sort of childish joy I had.

    However, we all grow older and our perceptions change, we move on. When we come back it's like revisiting our memory of it, and nothing can ever be as sweet again as it was in our memory. We cherish our good memories and build them up to more than they were, so it's nearly impossible to compare anything with how we remember it.

    I still hold hope that someday there will be a new MMO out there that will bring me some part of the joy I felt then, and I've gotten flashes of it sometimes in many MMOs, but they fade away leaving a bitter taste. Sadly as I grow older (nearing 30 now :P) I realize that it isn't the games that have changed, it's me. I've seen so much, done so much, and had so much joy from MMOs that nothing new can ever compare to the memories I have. So I must wander on, hoping some new MMO will pull the rabbit out of the hat and make me feel young again.

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078

    I've only gone back a few times, (DAOC being one of them), and it was sad to see a ghost town where once there was a thriving community.

    Mordred was the worst, less than 100 people on the server when i was there all fighting in one small zone, while the rest of the game world was entirely empty.

     

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  • IlliusIllius Member UncommonPosts: 4,142

    I went back to DAoC twice and every time the empty feeling was bigger than the last time.  First time I left because other responsibilities that I had to deal with and couldn't spare the time to play.  When I came around the 2nd time I looked for the people I played with but they left so I changed servers, and started anew only to be aggravated by ToA and leave because the game was changing into something I no longer liked.  The following and last time I went back I found nobody I played with, the population was thin and scattered and it seemed that the mentality of the people changed.  It was no longer the game I enjoyed and looked forward to.  Since then I just sit around with friends and reminisce and look upon the sad excuses of games coming out now and hardly wanting to play them.

    Different era, different people, different play style, an actual community filled with respectable people.  By the time you find these things in new games you are so segregated in a guild and completely removed from the rest of the server that it might as well be just a regular multiplayer game since it no longer feels massive.

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  • PalebanePalebane Member RarePosts: 4,011

    I think it's important to step away from MMORPGs for extended periods of time once in awhile. Players' perspective can become so jaded after prolonged use. Gaining a real person's trust and respect is probably the most challenging thing to do in online games today, where the focus is mostly on stats rather than personality. But there are still alot of decent people who play the games for the same reasons as I do. It just took stepping away for a little while to realize that.

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  • NeanderthalNeanderthal Member RarePosts: 1,861

    The only game which could make me feel this way would be EQ because it was the only one I got sucked into in a big way.  And with EQ I haven't gone back but I don't need to to know the feeling because the EQ I loved started dying while I was still there.  Changes to the game, additions which didn't fit, bloating of the game world, changing focus of the gameplay, and of course the inevitable clustering of players at high levels which killed the old low level zones I loved.

    So, to use an analogy, it was like having a friend come down with a terminal disease.  At first I sat there day and night at her bedside hoping she would get better.  After a while I started leaving the hospital for short times.  Then longer.  Then I only visited occassionally.  And finally I just stopped going back.

    The poor old girl is still hanging on hooked up to life support but she just ain't the same anymore.

    The only time I revisted was when a friend reactivated his account for a month.   I used his character to do a nostalgia run through a bunch of the old world zones.  In all of the old zones I visited I saw a total of two people.  Two!  Yeah, that was sad.

     

  • VarnyVarny Member Posts: 765
    Originally posted by Persephassa

    Originally posted by Robsolf


    How'd I know you were gonna be talking about SWG?  :P


    Every time I retry SWG(about every 6 months), it's a horribly sad experience.  NO ONE I knew is still playing.

     

    I do the same thing every now and then when SOE sends out the free play time to entice veterans to return. The most enjoyable part is the nostalgia from installing the game again with the original discs. Once I get ingame and see what the dwindling community is like (if you can call a dozen or so players a community), I usually give up.

     

    Get my collector's Edition out and it still has that new smell. Then i look at the old manual and the concept art book. Put the discs in and frigging see the old Pre Cu UI and sitting round a camp as the screenshots cycle on the install. However once I'm in the game my friends list is full up and everyone is offline, the guild is gone and so is our city. EVERY single person left the game and isn't currently playing and that's quite something from the 100 or so people who were in it. Most left after JTLS was a disappointment and the CU where they all said the last straw was the CU. Then our guild went down to like 20 people from a couple hundred. We got it back upto 100 people a few months after the CU and we were all having fun again and could see the potential of the CU if they made some changes. I mean we all loved how you could only attack Health but not being able to mix crafting and combat was annoying cause of the levels.



    I remember in Oct I was having a blast with the game again and couldn't wait for the new content coming to the game. I was getting new friends into the game and the Squad Leader update just happened with the Smuggler one on the horizon. Everything was looking up and well you wouldn't have known cause the forums were full of whiners but in game we were all happy. Then the expansion was released, it was pretty poor but atleats it was some content. However I completed it in less than a week, done everything there was to do lol. There were tons of bugs and exploits which proved they didn't test it or take the feedback from the testing. Two days later the NGE was announced and the guild gave it a chance. 



    As soon as that NGE hit live 90% of the guild left and we had about 10 people left. Then by December everyone left and not one person has returned since. Such a shame because the community was full of friendly people but now it just feels like a whole different community and game.

     

    Always makes me sad.





     

  • axhedaxhed Member Posts: 44

    if i ever make it back to wow i'll be sad that i missed all the viking/titan/arthas content with the awesome earthy art style because i had to start a new job 3 days after wotlk launched.

    and if i ever come back to this thread i'm sure all the boneheads who'll take me to task for saying something positive about wow will make me sad.

    have a blessed thread.

  • n-methyl-3n-methyl-3 Member Posts: 10

    Great article.

    I started playing wow with rl friends and we had tons of fun back then.

    Now most of us don't play. And when occasionally i join a trial i find myself wandering to some favorite places usually low level areas that many of the first mysteries unfolded for the first time and I try unconsciously to bring to my head all the vivid memories. So yes, it's kinda sad and nostalgic. Old magic is gone.

    Its a weird attachment, I hope your next article can analyze the meaning of it.

     

  • AladyleynaAladyleyna Member Posts: 269

    Most of the time actually. Normally when I leave games I don't really bother to come back, but for games that I really did enjoy myself in (mainly for the community) I'll start to get nostagic and sooner or later I'll find myself reinstalling.

    But... it's like what a lot of people have said in this thread; it's as if the old magic is gone. About a few months ago, I caved and went back to Dream of Mirror Online, the free to play game that I actually spent the most time in because I enjoyed myself the most there. I loved the people, the different jobs and how we could switch and combine the different skills to play a particular role, the costumes and the settings. Unfortunately... while everything still remained the same, the community wasn't as friendly as it was last time. Last time, I was literally able to find teams within five minutes of logging on, but now, it's only when I'm about to log off that I find a team. And even worse, a lot of guys kept wanting to hook up with me. That's why I hate games with ingame marriages; I play games to have fun, not to find a virtual husband whom I'll probably never meet in real life.

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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    The only thing that saddens me is when I see people indeed go back to their old game and for some reason get sad cause things are not what they use to be. I mean do these people miss out on all the changes that happen over the years of some older MMORPG, have they missed the part where internet became mainstream, where this genre took the same road and became mainstream.

    I also do not believe in this first honeymoon feeling, I mean obvious I can brainwash myself and say the first game I played was the best, but again that would be lying, I played Meridian59, great game for it's time, but it didn't touche me as much as SWG did, same with UO played it but never captured me as much as SWG did, tried EQ but never felt that game. So that's already 3 "MMO's" that didn't give me that great feel untill I got into my 4th which was SWG.

    I might not like certain directions this genre is heading, but to feel sad when returning to one of the older games I played would say more about my expectations being unrealistic then it tells anything about the game. Just my opinion. 

  • RavenRaven Member UncommonPosts: 2,005

     Cant say I really have a bad experience, all of the MMOs I would potentially go back to are the ones I enjoyed and every time I go back I really do find the same enjoyment odd enough, I play L2 on and off ( 6 month gaps ) but everytime I come back its still refreshing and feels like a new game on an old shell which is nothing wrong I do enjoy the style, most games I would regret going back well it just doesnt happen cause I usually discard them very quickly and really wont go back, AoC, WAR, VG, EQ2 are just a few examples of games that really failed to grasp my interest for long, while I have played them for a bit when I left I just didnt feel any urge to go back.

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  • IAmMMOIAmMMO Member UncommonPosts: 1,462

      No not at all, all my special memories and experiences in life all happened in the real world, I had fun in MMO's, but I don't take them so much to heart that I feel sad returning to one and discovering it's old, dated and a shadow of its former self. I don't use MMO's to make friends, just people to play with in the moment, I have real life for friends and conversations, I'm not sad enough to only get that sat on the Pc on vent playing a game and getting upset returning because they're not there anymore.

  • SoapysSoapys Member Posts: 33

    Sometimes it saddened me because a friend wasn't playing anymore, but once I joined a good guild again I forgot about the former friends and made new ones. So no, it doesn't sadden me at all now, I'm happy.

  • allstar101allstar101 Member Posts: 31

    im usually similar, just make new friends depending on which games i go to, a few move with me occasionaly but tbh i find that i miss previous clans or guilds and thats what encourages me back to a old mmo which is why when i return its so depressing as the reasons i enjoyed the game are no longer there,

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  • abyss610abyss610 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,131

    not usually, but there was 1 i returned to and was bummed when i saw my entire server was just gone, a complete ghost town. but i think i have returned to every mmo i've tried out atleast once, to see what the changes was like and see if i liked the game more now or not. my first real MMO was EQOA it had the best community hands down  of any mmo i played, it seems most of the people still playing all rerolled on the Castle Light Wolf server. did manage to find a few people form my old server still playing on the CLW, but i just couldn't get into starting it all over and for what ever idiotic reason SoE has they do not offer server transfers on that game not even paid wich is a shocker from $OE. if they did i'd go back in a heartbeat ,its the only sony game i'd play. and its the only mmo i ever played that i never saw gold spam/gold sellers in it, i never heard of gold sellers before. tho the closest i seen on there was some one trading Tunare for an EQOA time card.

    and to this day i have yet to play a game with the same amount of customization you could do to you character, not graphics but talents and other things. as a Dark Elf Magician i had 7 different class specializations to pick from, Geomancer, Pyromancer, Hydromancer, Aeromancer, Sage, Chosen and Werehunter. and then if i wanted i could go out and get "infected" and become a Werewolf, Wererat (Ratonga), Weregator (Iskar), Werelion (Kerra), Werebear, or Vampire on top of your Master Class (of course can't get an infection if you went Werehunter)....hmm think i might go sign up again, talking about it makes me want to  play again..lol

  • Eol-Eol- Member UncommonPosts: 274

    Yes, when I went back to DAoC when the classic servers came out, it was mixed feelings for sure. It was nice to see my old stomping rounds (I re-rolled in Midgard, which is where I had first rolled even though most of my play time was in Albion and Hibernia). But it was sad to see how dated the graphics had become, and it was especially sad to see a non-RP server player base. Looking back on it, I never realized how good we had it on DAoC's RP servers. Best community ever. Which is saying a lot, because I play LotRO now and the community is quite good and mature there too.

    The bottom line is that nothing will ever match the magic you feel when you first log into an MMORPG. Before you have explored the world, or discovered template specs, etc. The magic of leaving that first village with no idea whats down the road. Nothing ever matches that. :(

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  • RaeturusRaeturus Member Posts: 16

    Hello Varny,

    And yes I understand the lingering want to go back to the way those first days were. I have played for years and through the many different games I have played;  two games stand out more than any others.. DAOC as it was my first experience with a sureal world of make believe; and the second was SWG.

    I think these two hold a special place because they made me learn about myself in ways I would not normally approach in the everyday world.. they get to the core of a person.  For all the victories and the frustrations of playing the games..one learns eventually about themselves and others.  In doing so sometimes the lessons learned can be wonderfully remembered and charished..but can also be extremely stressful.. these two emotions make for strong attachments to those memories.

    Anytime we have dreams or goals we strive to obtain that are met with conflict..these too will find a place in our memory bank.

    But yes in answer to your question, I'm sure many get that feeling as well.. and yes you can always go back but it will never be the same as your first days, your first lessons.

    If you do go back... keep in mind... it is familiar territory but with new lessons to learn and new experiences.  You just have to let go of the past and look for the new within the old.

    Good luck Varny

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