Age of Conan open pvp

Amorien

i Understand Cimmeria is a Pvp server but when geared out 80's run around not letting people lvl it makes me wonder hmm Why am i playing this game. Now yes its a pvp server ok i get that the most you get out of a person is 5 kills and then you get no pvp exp.

So After being Camped for the 20th time i was sure they would have given up. nope

Seems all open world pvp is just little kids running around grefing others.

Even with this Criminal system its still pretty bad.

Also for the people who like to pvp in the Starter Zones. its a nice way of letting people that are new to the game to get the feeling that if they enter a zone they will just die die die die die.

Just because you have a gun dosnt mean you should run around just shooting it off.

i propose a justice system. kill a red person who is all murdered out and get a boost to some stats. good people increased Def Bad people Increased Attack.

Bring on the hate.

 

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Gabby-air

I don't get why people complain about pvp servers when there fully aware of what happens, and this happens in every single game.

masterbbb26

your on the pvp server. join an RP server or something and skip through the enchanted forest with the other cry babies.

Amorien

its no pvp server or pvp man Read its . its about grefing. and how to stop it or fix it. the people in the Aoc community need to realize that they have a dieing community and they need to chill will the large amounts of player hate in the game because the whole game is pvp and the hate will kill the game.

i dont even wanna know how many people left the first few months because of the Crazy killing that was involved in the beggining. so with a dieing community i think 5 kill min and then leave then alone system seems fine.

Euphoryk

Originally posted by masterbbb26


your on the pvp server. join an RP server or something and skip through the enchanted forest with the other cry babies.

 

Ironic, because high levels killing lowbies is about as carebear as you get. It is the equivalent of killing a rabbit.

Mad skills bro!

Artaios

bring some highlvl freinds that protect you while you level or join pve server and stop whining.

Amorien

dosnt help whne your lvl 68 and the pvper is a nicelly geared out 80's they can almost 1 shot me. how do those higher lvl people plan on protecting me. its the high lvls Grefing people thats the problem

NOT THE PVP.

Goatgod76

Originally posted by Amorien


i Understand Cimmeria is a Pvp server but when geared out 80's run around not letting people lvl it makes me wonder hmm Why am i playing this game. Now yes its a pvp server ok i get that the most you get out of a person is 5 kills and then you get no pvp exp.


So After being Camped for the 20th time i was sure they would have given up. nope

Seems all open world pvp is just little kids running around grefing others.

Even with this Criminal system its still pretty bad.


Also for the people who like to pvp in the Starter Zones. its a nice way of letting people that are new to the game to get the feeling that if they enter a zone they will just die die die die die.
Just because you have a gun dosnt mean you should run around just shooting it off.

i propose a justice system. kill a red person who is all murdered out and get a boost to some stats. good people increased Def Bad people Increased Attack.


Bring on the hate.

 

I'll tell you now...I started on Cimmeria during EA. It was FULL to the brim with A-holes within a couple of weeks who simply leveled into the teens just to camp out Whitesands and be...well, A-Holes. Although I'd have liked to of found an MMO where PvP was honorable, meaningful, and fun..I came to realize that that is just a fantasy and doesn't exist, nor will  probably ever exist in a PvP setting. So do yourself a favor and just move to an RP or PvE server as I did (I recommend Wiccana PvE server. Populated and mature for the most part).

 

Although I feel your pain and understand where you are coming from, you will NEVER get it through these PvP players heads, because to them, sitting in low level areas ganking lowbies all day that don't stand a chance is fun, and makes them cool and tough, and makes you nothing but a whiner for pointing out the obvious...which is that they are simply jerkoffs and cowards that if out on a level playing field would more than likely lose... and they don't like losing...AT ALL.

 

Amorien

hehe ill see you there then.

Sturmrabe

Lowbie ganking happens... it always has and always will... that being said I tried to tell the AoC community the same thing I said to the Shadowbane community:

 

You cannot PvP by yourself...

 

If you keep griefing lowbies you are not just getting your "usual enemies"'s alts, you are souring new player to a game that are not invested enough to give a shit enough to slog through the mud of asshattery that IS a PvP server...

 

In the end the game is going to go down the road once travelled by SB: Bullshit platitudes about "if you don't like it roll on PvE"/go back to WoW/etc that do not actually address the concerns that people are posting about...

 

And like SB its going to be an empty world with a few "hardcore" holdouts PKing each other over and over in an incestuous clusterfuck... without new blood there is no prey, with nothing but lowbie ganking by douchebags there will be no new players...

Tarka

Like someone mentioned earlier, its been like that since day 1.  And this is just one of a few issues that the game has.  Another problem being lack of pvp activity in the pvp zones on the pve servers.  Both of these issues could be addressed with one answer:  consensual openworld pvp on the pve servers.  Thus the ganking is kept on the PVP FFA servers whilst consensual openworld pvp is actively maintained on the PVE servers.

The GD has been told AND agrees that consensual pvp (with appropriate incentives and rewards) is needed to combat such problems.   Previous games have also proven that consensual pvp actually helped to enrich the gameworld. 

But, in true FC style, the devs are not in any hurry to make such changes, just like all the other issues that the game has (both large and small). 

Consensual pvp would put the choice in the hands of the player, rather than the devs having to spend ages working on countless mechanics and incentives to combat griefing.

Dibdabs

Originally posted by Goatgod76



Although I'd have liked to of found an MMO where PvP was honorable, meaningful, and fun..I came to realize that that is just a fantasy and doesn't exist, nor will  probably ever exist in a PvP setting.

As you say, there will never be honourable, meaningful PvP in MMOs.  Anyone who actually expects honourable PvP is doomed to constant disappointment, because it only takes one griefer who enjoys spoiling the fun of lower-level people - and it's ALWAYS the lower-levels they go for.  If there was any risk involved, it would spoil their fun.

fyerwall

All I can really say is;

Welcome to the wonderful world that is PvP.

There is a reason most open PvP games either fail or only manage to harbor a very small playerbase. Sure you have true PvPers who want to PvP based on merit and honor, but they are few. Most people on a PvP server in a game that allows open pvp play with the grief mentallity. This is mostly due to boredom or poor game mechanics (most times its due to the fact that the player cant compete in equal challenge fights, thus feel the need to be the 6th grade bully).

This is basically the reason dev teams who make a game with PvP included in the design (not thrown in as an after thought) use special areas for PvP (Zones, boreders, etc). It worked out well in games like AO (where you had areas that had different suppressions - like 25% zones and the such).

luckturtz

You want consensual pvp play on PVE server.

 

The ability attack anybody at anytime means you can be attacked at anytime.You can't have it both ways.

Vaygus

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Ravanos

PVP in most open PVP games stands for P*ssies vs Players. in fact i think 90% of PVPers play PVP not for the competition but to see how much grief they can cause other players.

 

i tried doing that one time (killing players way below my level in an open PVP game) i got about as much satisfaction as beating my cousins 4 year old daughter in street fighter 4. but then again most PVPers would probably "get off" on that as well.

 

thats why PVPers are the biggest liars in all of MMOs, they say they want the competition, but in reality they avoid fighting around the same level or gear quality and will always go after the weaker target for the sure win.

Abdar

Seriously.. it's a PVP server. You knew the rules when you made your toon (unless your an MMO noob which is a fair excuse I guess).

Yes there will be gankers, campers etc. If the prospect of this makes you unhappy, roll on an PvE server. This isn't just for AoC but for every game. People can be as childish, annoying, and rude as they want, it's the ruleset of the server that allows them to be.

I just find it very tiresome when people complain about this.

 

haratu

Some people are just bullies, that is life. Personally I play a game, not life so I go to a PvE server where I can relax.

If you want Adrenaline rushes and crazy things happening, go to a PvP server. If you want to play and relax, go to a PvE server.

 

Sturmrabe

Originally posted by Abdar


Seriously.. it's a PVP server. You knew the rules when you made your toon (unless your an MMO noob which is a fair excuse I guess).
Yes there will be gankers, campers etc. If the prospect of this makes you unhappy, roll on an PvE server. This isn't just for AoC but for every game. People can be as childish, annoying, and rude as they want, it's the ruleset of the server that allows them to be.
I just find it very tiresome when people complain about this.
 

 

I find it tiresome when "its just like that" is used as an excuse... followed up by apathy and/or mocking the person.

 

Its a valid problem... especially when its not someone who is anti-PvP in general. Ganking lowbies isn't the problem in itself, yes, it WILL always happen, but when the culture of the game is to do it/let it happen and deride anyone who complains, you are looking at the death of PvP in that game as -as I said- without new blood a PvP game stagnates and dies.

Halandir

Originally posted by Gabby-air


I don't get why people complain about pvp servers when there fully aware of what happens, and this happens in every single game.

 

Every single game? Wow... I guess Counter Strike would be about as successful as AoC if every FFA server was 14 Terrorists vs. 2 Counter terrorists.

Just being a bit sarcastic here. Of course MMO's are different and in a lot of them you will have mechanics that allow griefing and such. One of the problems with AoC is that the mechanics promotes griefing. A select few people likes that, which is just fine but it does get a little funny when they start complaining about low server populations.

It is almost like they imagine that this sort of mechanic is happening in every single game

 

Amorien

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Originally posted by Halandir

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Originally posted by Gabby-air

I don't get why people complain about pvp servers when there fully aware of what happens, and this happens in every single game.

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Every single game? Wow... I guess Counter Strike would be about as successful as AoC if every FFA server was 14 Terrorists vs. 2 Counter terrorists.
Just being a bit sarcastic here. Of course MMO's are different and in a lot of them you will have mechanics that allow griefing and such. One of the problems with AoC is that the mechanics promotes griefing. A select few people likes that, which is just fine but it does get a little funny when they start complaining about low server populations.
It is almost like they imagine that this sort of mechanic is happening in every single game
 

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and this is a Fantstic point , like i said before im not complaining about the pvp server in general but more of a pvp standard for Games like Aoc , the reason being is that its tough for new subscribers to get a grasp in the game because a person is holding them back therefore the newplayer never reaches the same lvl or gear lvl of the pvper. This thread was just to show the Aoc community that , those 2% of the population are Destroying the Games playerbase.

RavingRabbid

Nature of the beast on those servers Amorien. You have to watch your butt and backside.  Make sure your hiding when traveling in areas and for God's sake gank them back!!

People arent PVPing right now much due to the double xp awards

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Deadman87

Originally posted by Sturmrabe


And like SB its going to be an empty world with a few "hardcore" holdouts PKing each other over and over in an incestuous clusterfuck... without new blood there is no prey, with nothing but lowbie ganking by douchebags there will be no new players...

 

That's probably one of the most funniest and truest things I have read for a good long while. Sturmrabe is the Socrates amongst MMO players. I'm guessing that the poison cup is a familiarity to you.