Everyone should have learned from DF for christ's sake.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I think putting trust in somebody is worthwhile if they show you they earned it.
It's a business. They are out to make money. Not to be your friend.
I am amazed at how many people fall in hook, line and sinker for the idea that SV cares about them. Or that they are somehow better than the DF developer team. They were more open about the idea of their game for sure, but other than that... it hasn't exactly been glowing feedback from devs to users.
I mean, it took more than a month to find out where the boxed copies were. They were due out Sept 1st, we got an update more than a month later that they'd be late.
Everyone should have learned from DF for christ's sake.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Everyone should have learned from DF for christ's sake.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Nice to know that DF beta is now currently better than MO beta. I wonder which one will launch first.
Everyone should have learned from DF for christ's sake.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Everyone should have learned from DF for christ's sake.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Wow... do you think before you post?
Unbeleivable
Sad to say, as much as Darkfall sucked (and largely because the expectations were so damn high), it's still played better than Mortal Online during beta. Archery was actually pretty good, the combat sucked but so does Mortal Online's, there were more than a few spells and skills and magic actually was useful (if not impossible to skill up).
It was a different game design of course, where Darkfall gave you a Shadowbane replacement, and MO tried to give you a UO replacement -- Darkfall came closer to its goal because there was seiging, large scale battles, and the game was surprisingly playable (ie, no lag, skipping) during beta. In MO all I hear is "placeholder placeholder" and the only thing that got updated lately? The character creation screen with some fancier graphics, and the guild system which should have been in months ago if they were trying to emulate UO.
For info, the OP is one of the persons who got banned for breaking the NDA, like it has already been said. I can provide proof if the moderators here want to. So take everything he says in his anger against those who banned him with a HUGE grain of salt...
Just a friendly warning
Respect, walk, what did you say? Respect, walk Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me? - PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
For info, the OP is one of the persons who got banned for breaking the NDA, like it has already been said. I can provide proof if the moderators here want to. So take everything he says in his anger against those who banned him with a HUGE grain of salt... Just a friendly warning
yah.. looks like you might be right somehow his posts made me feel like he is angry about something here
For info, the OP is one of the persons who got banned for breaking the NDA, like it has already been said. I can provide proof if the moderators here want to. So take everything he says in his anger against those who banned him with a HUGE grain of salt... Just a friendly warning
I already said, I gave my account away and it got banned. I had no interest in playing the game, it was total crap, and so I didn't care about my account or who used it. Somebody asked me, I changed my password to "password1" (they can look that up too, feel free to ask them) and he started playing it.
Have them dig up the IPs that played the game, and you'll find they don't match the forum account. Take a wild guess why.
That's when my friend asked me, I gave it to him not long after so probably beginning of October he got it, and played it some time after. I haven't played since October. Again -- ask the admins about the IPs that played the game. It's kind of irrelevant anyway to me. The game will crash and burn, and I'll be happy at this point to see it happen. And if i can help it along -- I will.
That's when my friend asked me, I gave it to him not long after so probably beginning of October he got it, and played it some time after. I haven't played since October. Again -- ask the admins about the IPs that played the game. It's kind of irrelevant anyway to me. The game will crash and burn, and I'll be happy at this point to see it happen. And if i can help it along -- I will.
If the game does not crash and burn like you say, please come back and make a thread stating how wrong you were. If you are going to make such a bold statement at least back it up.
Mo has 1 working feature - Nudity, quick all meet at sausage lake.
On a serious not, the game sucks and is barely considered to be worth 20 dollars( without an subscription) I felt ripped off pre ordering it, but I knew it was going to be bad, but I did not know it was going to be terrible.
Only hope for the game is to delay the release, and make sure they do not fck up the launch too bad.
That's when my friend asked me, I gave it to him not long after so probably beginning of October he got it, and played it some time after. I haven't played since October. Again -- ask the admins about the IPs that played the game. It's kind of irrelevant anyway to me. The game will crash and burn, and I'll be happy at this point to see it happen. And if i can help it along -- I will.
If the game does not crash and burn like you say, please come back and make a thread stating how wrong you were. If you are going to make such a bold statement at least back it up.
Honestly, if the game is good in a few months or a year, I may play it then. But it would have to be really different than now, and combat would have to be changed entirely. From my point of view, as a spiritual successor to UO -- it's an abject failure. Age of Chivalry's combat mechanics are more deep and fun than MO's, and even THAT is boring as hell.
But if it is a stunning PvP success in a year, I'll eat my words. But I think Darkfall will still be on top of the heap at that point, and it's not saying a whole hell of a lot.
For info, the OP is one of the persons who got banned for breaking the NDA, like it has already been said. I can provide proof if the moderators here want to. So take everything he says in his anger against those who banned him with a HUGE grain of salt... Just a friendly warning
I already said, I gave my account away and it got banned. I had no interest in playing the game, it was total crap, and so I didn't care about my account or who used it. Somebody asked me, I changed my password to "password1" (they can look that up too, feel free to ask them) and he started playing it.
Have them dig up the IPs that played the game, and you'll find they don't match the forum account. Take a wild guess why.
It doesn't matter if you directly broke the NDA or helped other break it.
So he's building the feature and implementing it right into the game?
So much to say that all those systems were "already built"... LOL
If you believe SV is building the feature on the fly, you overestimate their ability. If the could achieve so much in five months, what could they do in another five months?!
Be logical Hercules, do not let you controlled by your feelings. I you want to bash MO, at least try to bash logically. And do not talk about that you make a living coding financial softwares. I have programming as a hobby (and demand payments from customers who want me to program), but I admitt that SV is facing a different task than I have had. They are doing in a very structural and agile manner. And I am glad they stopped you from making their new forums. I don't think you, with your mind smaller than your ego, could make better forum than it is.
So he's building the feature and implementing it right into the game?
So much to say that all those systems were "already built"... LOL
If you believe SV is building the feature on the fly, you overestimate their ability. If the could achieve so much in five months, what could they do in another five months?!
Be logical Hercules, do not let you controlled by your feelings. I you want to bash MO, at least try to bash logically. And do not talk about that you make a living coding financial softwares. I have programming as a hobby (and demand payments from customers who want me to program), but I admitt that SV is facing a different task than I have had. They are doing in a very structural and agile manner. And I am glad they stopped you from making their new forums. I don't think you, with your mind smaller than your ego, could make better forum than it is.
I wasn't going to make their forums at all, and I never intended to do it. I gave them options, and they didn't have the expertise to carry it out, so instead they kept what they had, recruited a forum member to write the script that links your beta account, and put it on the site. That's how big their "expertise" is, that they weren't even prepared to have a beta forum without the community's help. That's pathetic.
In another 5 months, a lot can happen, obviously. But there's a problem of course, and that is trying to make those changes happen costs CASH, and they seem to be in the hole for some already. Granted, Henrik's dad is the #1 investor at Star Vault, and when my dad buys me a gaming company, maybe I'll make a game too.
As for my professional job well... I manage and design financial systems and software. It's boring, I know -- but the idea of project management for software is the same whether you're making a game, financial software, or anything else. There are prescribed methods of doing things. From what it looks like, as a result of bad planning or mismanagement or sheer stupidity, they are writing the code that goes into the live game *now*. It wasn't "ready for a while". That's Emil Jones' own admission, that he's completing a feature for thieving. So that means obviously, it wasn't already done. Which means that Henrik and Co were full of sh!t when they said "we are waiting for Epic games!" because the simple fact is, they wanted to buy time to develop those things on the fly.
That's why the game is buggy as hell. That's why the server uptime is about 24 hours or a bit more. That's why there is extreme lag. That's why combat sucks.
Again, if they fix it up in 5 months that's great and if it's still the only thing out there, I may even play it -- but right now they took people's cash in order to fund their own mismanagement and lack of expertise to develop the game on the fly. That's unethical. And I really don't like that route.
Look, the one thing that bothers me is the fact that people keep saying that DF is better than MO after it's 2 patches, expansion and 2nd expansion coming out this week. Of course it plays better, it's been released with 2 patches and soon 2 expansions. How about we wait til MO is out and has 2 patches and 2 expansions and then compare. I mean how can some of you compare a game that's out for almost a year to one that;s been in beta for lik4 or 5 months.
I play DF, yes it's gotten better and it's fun. But, the release was awful and it lost like half if not more than half it's player base in the first month because of how bad it was. Now with that said, same thing can happen to MO. So why do people have to talk up or talk down a game that's not out yet. I don't know hardly any game that released great. Every game comes out and then fixes most it's problems and adds content within the first 6-12 months and then offer free trial to get the players back.
Just relax and wait til 6-12 months after MO releases then talk all the shit you want about it. Hell DF is just now getting decent and it's been out like 8 or 9 months.
The only Being that can judge something, is the one known as Black Jesus.
Your prepotent "know and seen it all" attitude is hilarious to say the least.
It was funny how you would stay 24/7 in MO IRC chat and spam how bad DF is and how lame they are.
When Henrik allowed you to start working on their forums you didnt seem to mind that they were not ready for beta forums nor that they needed the community to make them.
However when they finally asked the community manager to finish the beta forums you suddenly started to comment on how bugged the game was and how unexperienced the devs are.
All that, again didnt bother you at all when you were discussing how cool your beta forums would be.
So you went and started leaking videos making hilarious comments...i mean...taking 2 minutes to bash the music in the patcher of a beta game...c´mon....get real!
Grow up. You have a kid and a wife to take care of. Such immature attitude form your side is shameful.
Stop spitting your hate on other people´s faces and if you have personal probs seek some profesional help or whatever.
So much hate... Didnt you have a baby to look after? Do us all a favour and go take care of it. Your prepotent "know and seen it all" attitude is hilarious to say the least. It was funny how you would stay 24/7 in MO IRC chat and spam how bad DF is and how lame they are. When Henrik allowed you to start working on their forums you didnt seem to mind that they were not ready for beta forums nor that they needed the community to make them. However when they finally asked the community manager to finish the beta forums you suddenly started to comment on how bugged the game was and how unexperienced the devs are. All that, again didnt bother you at all when you were discussing how cool your beta forums would be.
So you went and started leaking videos making hilarious comments...i mean...taking 2 minutes to bash the music in the patcher of a beta game...c´mon....get real!
Grow up. You have a kid and a wife to take care of. Such immature attitude form your side is shameful. Stop spitting your hate on other people´s faces and if you have personal probs seek some profesional help or whatever.
So you're telling me I'm immature yet you're the one following me around the internet, telling me what I have to tend to in my actual life, and telling me to get professional help because I dissed your favorite video game, and I'm the one that has problems?
LOL. Man, I have to laugh. As for the beta forums or whatever... I believed in the vision and offered my help, but it's not until later did I realize that charity is overrated, as a moderator actually used that same line to me. I didn't think that the team would have spent all their capital before the fact, mismanaged the project so badly that they are launching it in shambles, and asked the community to pay for their beta test, which is in fact, barely an alpha.
Anyway adrala, I've seen your posts on the MO forums and I realize this much, that no sense can ever be talked into a fanboy. It's unfortunate, and the same type of thing happened during Darkfall, but if you want to bring up my personal life, or what my responsibilities are in order to get the 'upper hand' in an internet argument, it says far more about you than it does about me.
The game will suck regardless of what you say, and it's solely because the team developing it are poorly managed and don't know wtf they are doing. I'll call that now. Tabula Rasa, the Matrix Online, Asheron's Call 2 and a lot more have failed and have had good teams together to launch those games. I don't see MO lasting any length of time, but I do see suckers like you to keep paying for the base infrastructure with minor updates over time so they recoup their money and close up shop.
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That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I think putting trust in somebody is worthwhile if they show you they earned it.
It's a business. They are out to make money. Not to be your friend.
I am amazed at how many people fall in hook, line and sinker for the idea that SV cares about them. Or that they are somehow better than the DF developer team. They were more open about the idea of their game for sure, but other than that... it hasn't exactly been glowing feedback from devs to users.
I mean, it took more than a month to find out where the boxed copies were. They were due out Sept 1st, we got an update more than a month later that they'd be late.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Nice to know that DF beta is now currently better than MO beta. I wonder which one will launch first.
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Wow... do you think before you post?
Unbeleivable
That's precisely why I have more trust in MO than I ever had in DFO... been in both betas, and seen the difference of attitude and skill of both developer teams. SV crushes AV so badly it's not even funny.
I beg to differ. The DF beta was way better than MO beta. Darkfall is has had numerous patches and one expansion with another expansion this week. The Darkfall you played is A LOT different than how it is now and what it will be next week from now.
That said, I wish MO well as we need another game like it with its feature set.
Wow... do you think before you post?
Unbeleivable
Sad to say, as much as Darkfall sucked (and largely because the expectations were so damn high), it's still played better than Mortal Online during beta. Archery was actually pretty good, the combat sucked but so does Mortal Online's, there were more than a few spells and skills and magic actually was useful (if not impossible to skill up).
It was a different game design of course, where Darkfall gave you a Shadowbane replacement, and MO tried to give you a UO replacement -- Darkfall came closer to its goal because there was seiging, large scale battles, and the game was surprisingly playable (ie, no lag, skipping) during beta. In MO all I hear is "placeholder placeholder" and the only thing that got updated lately? The character creation screen with some fancier graphics, and the guild system which should have been in months ago if they were trying to emulate UO.
well, looks like thieving will be in next patch...
www.mortalonline.com/content/emil-a-day-office
So he's building the feature and implementing it right into the game?
So much to say that all those systems were "already built"... LOL
For info, the OP is one of the persons who got banned for breaking the NDA, like it has already been said. I can provide proof if the moderators here want to. So take everything he says in his anger against those who banned him with a HUGE grain of salt...
Just a friendly warning
Respect, walk
Are you talkin' to me? Are you talkin' to me?
- PANTERA at HELLFEST 2023
yah.. looks like you might be right somehow his posts made me feel like he is angry about something here
I already said, I gave my account away and it got banned. I had no interest in playing the game, it was total crap, and so I didn't care about my account or who used it. Somebody asked me, I changed my password to "password1" (they can look that up too, feel free to ask them) and he started playing it.
Have them dig up the IPs that played the game, and you'll find they don't match the forum account. Take a wild guess why.
Actually hell, I looked it up myself.. LOL
That's when my friend asked me, I gave it to him not long after so probably beginning of October he got it, and played it some time after. I haven't played since October. Again -- ask the admins about the IPs that played the game. It's kind of irrelevant anyway to me. The game will crash and burn, and I'll be happy at this point to see it happen. And if i can help it along -- I will.
http://www.mortalonline.com/forums/23458-if-i-update-my-password-account-management-site.html
If the game does not crash and burn like you say, please come back and make a thread stating how wrong you were. If you are going to make such a bold statement at least back it up.
Mo has 1 working feature - Nudity, quick all meet at sausage lake.
On a serious not, the game sucks and is barely considered to be worth 20 dollars( without an subscription) I felt ripped off pre ordering it, but I knew it was going to be bad, but I did not know it was going to be terrible.
Only hope for the game is to delay the release, and make sure they do not fck up the launch too bad.
If the game does not crash and burn like you say, please come back and make a thread stating how wrong you were. If you are going to make such a bold statement at least back it up.
Honestly, if the game is good in a few months or a year, I may play it then. But it would have to be really different than now, and combat would have to be changed entirely. From my point of view, as a spiritual successor to UO -- it's an abject failure. Age of Chivalry's combat mechanics are more deep and fun than MO's, and even THAT is boring as hell.
But if it is a stunning PvP success in a year, I'll eat my words. But I think Darkfall will still be on top of the heap at that point, and it's not saying a whole hell of a lot.
I already said, I gave my account away and it got banned. I had no interest in playing the game, it was total crap, and so I didn't care about my account or who used it. Somebody asked me, I changed my password to "password1" (they can look that up too, feel free to ask them) and he started playing it.
Have them dig up the IPs that played the game, and you'll find they don't match the forum account. Take a wild guess why.
It doesn't matter if you directly broke the NDA or helped other break it.
So he's building the feature and implementing it right into the game?
So much to say that all those systems were "already built"... LOL
If you believe SV is building the feature on the fly, you overestimate their ability. If the could achieve so much in five months, what could they do in another five months?!
Be logical Hercules, do not let you controlled by your feelings. I you want to bash MO, at least try to bash logically. And do not talk about that you make a living coding financial softwares. I have programming as a hobby (and demand payments from customers who want me to program), but I admitt that SV is facing a different task than I have had. They are doing in a very structural and agile manner. And I am glad they stopped you from making their new forums. I don't think you, with your mind smaller than your ego, could make better forum than it is.
So he's building the feature and implementing it right into the game?
So much to say that all those systems were "already built"... LOL
If you believe SV is building the feature on the fly, you overestimate their ability. If the could achieve so much in five months, what could they do in another five months?!
Be logical Hercules, do not let you controlled by your feelings. I you want to bash MO, at least try to bash logically. And do not talk about that you make a living coding financial softwares. I have programming as a hobby (and demand payments from customers who want me to program), but I admitt that SV is facing a different task than I have had. They are doing in a very structural and agile manner. And I am glad they stopped you from making their new forums. I don't think you, with your mind smaller than your ego, could make better forum than it is.
I wasn't going to make their forums at all, and I never intended to do it. I gave them options, and they didn't have the expertise to carry it out, so instead they kept what they had, recruited a forum member to write the script that links your beta account, and put it on the site. That's how big their "expertise" is, that they weren't even prepared to have a beta forum without the community's help. That's pathetic.
In another 5 months, a lot can happen, obviously. But there's a problem of course, and that is trying to make those changes happen costs CASH, and they seem to be in the hole for some already. Granted, Henrik's dad is the #1 investor at Star Vault, and when my dad buys me a gaming company, maybe I'll make a game too.
As for my professional job well... I manage and design financial systems and software. It's boring, I know -- but the idea of project management for software is the same whether you're making a game, financial software, or anything else. There are prescribed methods of doing things. From what it looks like, as a result of bad planning or mismanagement or sheer stupidity, they are writing the code that goes into the live game *now*. It wasn't "ready for a while". That's Emil Jones' own admission, that he's completing a feature for thieving. So that means obviously, it wasn't already done. Which means that Henrik and Co were full of sh!t when they said "we are waiting for Epic games!" because the simple fact is, they wanted to buy time to develop those things on the fly.
That's why the game is buggy as hell. That's why the server uptime is about 24 hours or a bit more. That's why there is extreme lag. That's why combat sucks.
Again, if they fix it up in 5 months that's great and if it's still the only thing out there, I may even play it -- but right now they took people's cash in order to fund their own mismanagement and lack of expertise to develop the game on the fly. That's unethical. And I really don't like that route.
Look, the one thing that bothers me is the fact that people keep saying that DF is better than MO after it's 2 patches, expansion and 2nd expansion coming out this week. Of course it plays better, it's been released with 2 patches and soon 2 expansions. How about we wait til MO is out and has 2 patches and 2 expansions and then compare. I mean how can some of you compare a game that's out for almost a year to one that;s been in beta for lik4 or 5 months.
I play DF, yes it's gotten better and it's fun. But, the release was awful and it lost like half if not more than half it's player base in the first month because of how bad it was. Now with that said, same thing can happen to MO. So why do people have to talk up or talk down a game that's not out yet. I don't know hardly any game that released great. Every game comes out and then fixes most it's problems and adds content within the first 6-12 months and then offer free trial to get the players back.
Just relax and wait til 6-12 months after MO releases then talk all the shit you want about it. Hell DF is just now getting decent and it's been out like 8 or 9 months.
The only Being that can judge something, is the one known as Black Jesus.
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So much hate...
Didnt you have a baby to look after?
Do us all a favour and go take care of it.
Your prepotent "know and seen it all" attitude is hilarious to say the least.
It was funny how you would stay 24/7 in MO IRC chat and spam how bad DF is and how lame they are.
When Henrik allowed you to start working on their forums you didnt seem to mind that they were not ready for beta forums nor that they needed the community to make them.
However when they finally asked the community manager to finish the beta forums you suddenly started to comment on how bugged the game was and how unexperienced the devs are.
All that, again didnt bother you at all when you were discussing how cool your beta forums would be.
So you went and started leaking videos making hilarious comments...i mean...taking 2 minutes to bash the music in the patcher of a beta game...c´mon....get real!
Grow up. You have a kid and a wife to take care of. Such immature attitude form your side is shameful.
Stop spitting your hate on other people´s faces and if you have personal probs seek some profesional help or whatever.
So you're telling me I'm immature yet you're the one following me around the internet, telling me what I have to tend to in my actual life, and telling me to get professional help because I dissed your favorite video game, and I'm the one that has problems?
LOL. Man, I have to laugh. As for the beta forums or whatever... I believed in the vision and offered my help, but it's not until later did I realize that charity is overrated, as a moderator actually used that same line to me. I didn't think that the team would have spent all their capital before the fact, mismanaged the project so badly that they are launching it in shambles, and asked the community to pay for their beta test, which is in fact, barely an alpha.
Anyway adrala, I've seen your posts on the MO forums and I realize this much, that no sense can ever be talked into a fanboy. It's unfortunate, and the same type of thing happened during Darkfall, but if you want to bring up my personal life, or what my responsibilities are in order to get the 'upper hand' in an internet argument, it says far more about you than it does about me.
The game will suck regardless of what you say, and it's solely because the team developing it are poorly managed and don't know wtf they are doing. I'll call that now. Tabula Rasa, the Matrix Online, Asheron's Call 2 and a lot more have failed and have had good teams together to launch those games. I don't see MO lasting any length of time, but I do see suckers like you to keep paying for the base infrastructure with minor updates over time so they recoup their money and close up shop.