Around 60% of all class 1-3 wormholes are colonized, Bad or good move to let PoS in WHs? Has this de

metalhead980

Right now you can enter any class 1-3 Wh and find atleast 60% of these holes populated with corps w PoS.

Now while I have no issue with this imo WHs were supposed to be uncharted space, explorer friendly.

How explorer friendly can a WH be if 60% of the Whs that don't require a decent sized fleet have players already in them 23/7?

in a years time that 60% could turn into 80% and class 4-6 WHs could be as populated as 1-3 is now.

Do you see this as an issue?

Was it the right decision to let PoS that require a good size force to take down be put in holes with ship mass restrictions?

I honestly think its ok now but I don't know how I will feel later on when nothing is left to explore.

If you see a problem with Wh mechanics atm how would you go about fixing the situation?

If you see no problem with this mechanic what do you think of the people that do? and are constantly bitching and bring this to the attention of CCP on the eve forums?

 

 

 

 

Malcanis

Personally I think it's great that people are setting in the toughest environment there is. That certainly gives the lie to the old EVE WILL DIE IF YOU REMOVE LOCAL!!!!!11

CCP can add more W-space if needed

pauldriver

To be honest it depends what the corp is using it for. We have a number of POS in a class three but rarely do the sleeper sites in there. Its main use is as a staging ground to explore new surrounding systems and wormholes everyday. The onus is on the explorers to deal with what is there at the time being as it will be a while before they rebalance them even though I am sure they had not intended them to be used in this manner.

In one respect without population I could easily see it becoming a new type of level four mission over time as soon as people have developed fleet set-ups and methods that cause it to be more of semi-afk isk fountain than any sort of exploration.

On the subject of explorers only yesterday I was sitting on the inside of our hole with it being light on the ground at the time. Started to lose attention a bit after a while while looking at our shiny new browser when I started to hear what sounded like explosions. Sure enough after minimizing the IGB I was being pounded on by an Arazu, hound and Manti. Lucky I was in a BS and lucky I was beside the hole. There are other examples and I could go on all day but you get the picture:)

 

cosy

is a good thing that more ppl get in WH i hope CCP will add more WH so more ppl move in, also u have the assumption that exploration should be about finding "empty space"

qazyman

Originally posted by pauldriver


To be honest it depends what the corp is using it for. We have a number of POS in a class three but rarely do the sleeper sites in there. Its main use is as a staging ground to explore new surrounding systems and wormholes everyday. The onus is on the explorers to deal with what is there at the time being as it will be a while before they rebalance them even though I am sure they had not intended them to be used in this manner.
In one respect without population I could easily see it becoming a new type of level four mission over time as soon as people have developed fleet set-ups and methods that cause it to be more of semi-afk isk fountain than any sort of exploration.
On the subject of explorers only yesterday I was sitting on the inside of our hole with it being light on the ground at the time. Started to lose attention a bit after a while while looking at our shiny new browser when I started to hear what sounded like explosions. Sure enough after minimizing the IGB I was being pounded on by an Arazu, hound and Manti. Lucky I was in a BS and lucky I was beside the hole. There are other examples and I could go on all day but you get the picture:)
 

This is the best thing about them IMO. Not that the sites aren't a good thing, but having the ability to explore all of New Eden is just an incredible thing to me.

As for the POS's, just because a 1-3 has one it doesn’t mean people are there 23/7 so I don't have a problem with that.

Once you get in to the higher level WH's you can get into some pretty extensive operations which is good too.

The only real problem I see with them is you really are out of the loop if you stay in one full time, but I'm not sure there is any way around that. Clones might be an answer.

Gdemami

I already did my ranting part about wormholes when they were still on test server and the same issue follows Dominion - indigested 'kewl' changes.

Malcanis

Originally posted by Gdemami


I already did my ranting

 

Yeah...

Kyleran

Originally posted by qazyman

Originally posted by pauldriver


To be honest it depends what the corp is using it for. We have a number of POS in a class three but rarely do the sleeper sites in there. Its main use is as a staging ground to explore new surrounding systems and wormholes everyday. The onus is on the explorers to deal with what is there at the time being as it will be a while before they rebalance them even though I am sure they had not intended them to be used in this manner.
In one respect without population I could easily see it becoming a new type of level four mission over time as soon as people have developed fleet set-ups and methods that cause it to be more of semi-afk isk fountain than any sort of exploration.
On the subject of explorers only yesterday I was sitting on the inside of our hole with it being light on the ground at the time. Started to lose attention a bit after a while while looking at our shiny new browser when I started to hear what sounded like explosions. Sure enough after minimizing the IGB I was being pounded on by an Arazu, hound and Manti. Lucky I was in a BS and lucky I was beside the hole. There are other examples and I could go on all day but you get the picture:)
 

This is the best thing about them IMO. Not that the sites aren't a good thing, but having the ability to explore all of New Eden is just an incredible thing to me.

As for the POS's, just because a 1-3 has one it doesn’t mean people are there 23/7 so I don't have a problem with that.

Once you get in to the higher level WH's you can get into some pretty extensive operations which is good too.

The only real problem I see with them is you really are out of the loop if you stay in one full time, but I'm not sure there is any way around that. Clones might be an answer.

I concur, been living in a WH for a few months now and I really do feel out of the loop.  I'd love to be able to jump clone in and out of them (even on an extended timer, say a week) but no idea if CCP would entertain such an idea.

 

WYDO

Completely agree with allowing you to jump clone back. 

The biggest penalty right now for WH PvP is having to wait several days for my friends in their C5 to find an exit back to a reasonable enterance in empire.

Staatsschutz

its good for the game that they let players colonize w-space with their pos´es

- it allows for affordeable t3 cruisers

- it allows for a completely unique and different  play style

- it reduces lag for the k-space. less players in k-space less lag

 

they can always add an un-colonizeable type of space at will, anytime they want. it could be in the form of some deeper w-space beyond the current w-space.