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I've played this game since beta. I've defended it here and on other gaming boards. It WAS a fun game. It had beautiful scenery, a different angle to skills, and I was able to solo the moderate level things.
After the patch they released today - SOLOING - EVEN ON NOOB ISLAND - IS NOT POSSIBLE!
The aggro rate of the MOBS has been drastically increased. I'm not a low level player. I'm at 50 melee which used to be more than enough to go to the "mainland" where the MOBS were expected to be harder. Would be kinda stupid of me to go to the mainland now if the baby creatures on noob island are killing me!
I've cancelled my account and my suggestion to anyone who's looking for a game that they can solo in because they only play an hour or two a night - this isn't the game for you - don't buy it.
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Well, I hate to say it, but I also defended this game and gave a favorable review on this very forum.
Sadly, with the latest patch, I can no longer recommend this game. Sure, they may rebalance the patch or roll it back, whatever. The fact is that it went live after very serious gameplay issues were noted by testers and that to me screams Horizons. Bleh.
There are four skill lines to follow and, in a single patch, NONE of them are reasonably playable. There is liternally nothing to do in game that won't set you back further than you can progress. One step forward, two steps back, no joke.
Oh, well.
Dont believe the whinner... heres why they are complaining like little baby girls :
The game was really easy to lvl before, as a casual gamers, i made my way to 50 lvl in 2 kind of magic, 2 kind of crafting, fighting and 60 in harvesting... the game was supposed to last a lot longuer then that and some harcore players made theur way up to lvl 150 out of 250... in a month.
So they made the game a bit harder, so the game may last more then 2 month.
Now people are complaining because some arnt that good and it was WAY to easy before.
Harvesting is the only things that is really bad in patch 1, and there is an announcement on the game forum that they will make another patch to fix harvesting. All the other skills work great, my char is actually stronger after patch 1.
Another thing that is anoying people is what they did to the mobs. They raised their damage and lowered their hp. I can now kill growling cloppers in 3 hit (nearly 2), before patch 1 it was taking around 10 hit, the clopper was hiting for 50-100 and is now hitting for 150-200. So you have to be more cautious but kills are faster and exp is nearly the same...
What ever you do, there will always be people complaining...
When a country as France decides not to support the coalition, we renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes an supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
"Dont believe the whinner... heres why they are complaining like little baby girls"
Oh for heaven's sake, people have legitimate complaints - we're not 'whinner' (sp) or little baby girls.
You've purposefully under-reported the impact of the massive changes to melee - gamers are now getting killed by very low level newbie creatures 10's of levels below them. Mobs that yield exp are too difficult to kill. The death debts are skyrocketing.
Harvesting has even more complaints than melee.
There's a meltdown happening on the official boards, which the public unfortunately cannot access unless they have paying accounts. There have been many cancellations, and the people appalled by the patch far outnumber the 'shut up and live with it' crowd.
The patch was partially implemented because people were advancing too fast for the story time-line they had planned. So they brought the game to a screeching halt. It's simply not enjoyable to play anymore.
I too have defended this game on these boards. I apologize to anyone who may have purchased it based on my recommendation/comments.
I'll check in on it again in a few months, to see if the situation has improved.
"You've purposefully under-reported the impact of the massive changes to melee - gamers are now getting killed by very low level newbie creatures 10's of levels below them. Mobs that yield exp are too difficult to kill. The death debts are skyrocketing."
Another thing that is anoying people is what they did to the mobs. They raised their damage and lowered their hp. I can now kill growling cloppers in 3 hit (nearly 2), before patch 1 it was taking around 10 hit, the clopper was hiting for 50-100 and is now hitting for 150-200. So you have to be more cautious but kills are faster and exp is nearly the same...
I did solo after patch 1
"Harvesting has even more complaints than melee."
Harvesting is the only things that is really bad in patch 1, and there is an announcement on the game forum that they will make another patch to fix harvesting. All the other skills work great, my char is actually stronger after patch 1.
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When a country as France decides not to support the coalition, we renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink!It takes an supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
Its only a matter of time before all the fan boys/girls release that the game is incomplete and buggy. I once had hope for this game but saw way to many similarities to horizons and canceled 3 weeks after it went live. The game is a shell of what it could be but sadly with low player base and more leaving with the incompetant developers I doubt this game will last much longer (but I could be wrong Horizons is still around).
If they want to stay around they need to make the game more enjoyable for players and give them incentive to play. There is no economy in the game and the last patch seems to have ruined what little fun was left. With WoW and EQ2 coming out in the next few weeks, it will be a rough winter for SoR.
The game mostly suffer from masses stupidity. The patch is not that worse, they are fixing things as im writing my post.
Anyway go play your other games that are so different (but youre gonna be grinding anyway).
Its funny how people kept their frutration on many games and are releasing the pressure on the new games....
When a country as France decides not to support the coalition, we renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink!It takes an supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
Yes I am sure a dying game with no new costumers and the original costumers leaving in droves has nothing to do witht he game quality and is only about people complaining.
Anyone with a little common sense left that game to its fate before release... It is amateurish at best. If you do nto see it does not mean the rest of the world is wrong. It means you have no standards.
Only game I wait for right now: Imperator.
Go Mythic!
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
Just to prove what i was saying....
After a day in patch 1 :
they announced change to harvesting and fighting, those are the only problems with patch 1....
And people are bitching the devs... masses stupidity at it best
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When a country as France decides not to support the coalition, we renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink!It takes an supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
lol
u dont need to wait that long
only not bitching stupid masses u included will play this game in the future (horizont 2 has fanboiz too)
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
rofl
dying games need more ppl like u)
LMAO
Online games in general need less people like you...
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
and "french fries" not existing in europe
coz they was never french made)
btw if u liked patch 1 and teh game in general
just play it and dont bitch ppl who didnt liked it
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
I read some of your post, you are just the typical "i bitch every games i dont like" type of person.
If you dont play the game (or dont play anymore), whats your point in posting here ?
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
frites exactly name
made in wallonie belgium
they speak french..but they arent french
Right, Belgium not Bretagne.... but those actually share a border
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
Anyway, the point is to illustrate how conservator in the US think about the rest of the world.
This is not the good place to talk about my personnal view of the US and how the right wing is exploiting the ignorance of the population.
Start a topic in the Off-Topic section and ill explain it.
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
This is all nonsense.
Has anyone ever stopped to think that maybe a mmorpg that doesn't have 5,000 players at maximum level and skills in 2 months is a good thing? Perhaps a challenge is good in mmorpgs? How about a game where you actually have to "think" rather than just hit your hot auto-attack key and go make a sandwhich while your avatar kills a high level mob? Perhaps that is exactly why Nevrax is trying to update their game and put a little challenge into it?!! Hmmm...
But no, all you whining freaks are right. Every new mmorpg (even when its from a developer that has never made a mmorpg) should be "absolutley perfect" without flaws, you should never, ever, ever get killed, there should be absolutely no skill involved, you should kill wolves and the wolves should drop golden sets of magical plate armor (cuz that's cool and makes so much sense and all), and you should be able to be a God in the game at maxed out skills and level in no more then 6 weeks of playing. Then the game is only cool if they nerf every other class and skill but the skills that YOU have, otherwise you'll be on here bitching some more.
My point is this. The Saga of Ryzom shows a LOT of promise, dares to change the typical ways mmorpg function now days, and is original and fresh unlike a lot of the same ol' same ol' mass produced stream-lined mmorpg's these days. Give the devs some credit where credit is due, and give them a chance to make the needed changes and get it right before you all cry like a bunch of spoiled brat 14 year old kids.
Maybe it's just me, but I think a challenge is fun. Mindlessly killing mobs without having to think or even prepare is what gets boring. I also believe in giving a new company to the whole mmorpg genre a fair chance. Do you people actually think that EQ2 and Wow that you keep drooling over are going to be absolutely perfect and never need patching after they release? Ofcourse not. But it'll be so much fun to come on and read all the whines and bitching for those two games as well. How the game is retarded because you died while getting your sandwhich while in auto-attack, How the game is buggy 'cuz you wasn't smart enough to figure out one of the quests, how the game is gay because you killed a wolf and spent a whole 23 seconds waiting and it dropping nothing!! - Oh my! How gay! I know we'll see all that typical bitching when those games come out too.
Just my 2 cents, err oops, I mean just my 5,320 gold bars and full set of titanium magical +17 war magic full plate and crystal sword of power that the grass snake just dropped!
- Zaxx
harvestring is chalenge for u?
harvestring and crafting are the most boring things in sor
but must have(
the spells are so bugged ...i think ppl will find another way for quik lvling
but without me anyway
I gave Horizons a fair chance, not going to repeat that mistake with another small company that released a buggy incomplete game. To make it worse there is knee-jerk reactions to "fix" problems. If i didnt know any better I would think David Bowman is running SoR.
I have never seen a complete skill rebalance 1 month after release in any game I have played. This game as a non-existant economy.
My only question is which game will go under first... Horizons or SoR.
Serioulsy quit whinning, if you dont like it dont play it.
Nevrax is doing an awsome job, the patch had problems... they released a fix the next day...
They always listen to the community.
They are doing things differently, name one other open source engine for MMORPG developped recently ? If you want to encourage capitalism and exploiting, keep giving your money to SOE, Blizzard etc. so your sure things wont change.
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When a country like France decides not to support the coalition, we (USians, im not using Americans because people from America are American) renames French Fries and empties bottles of red in the sink! It takes a supra-intelligent brain to think of that...
Greg Gaffin
yea encourage open source and ...... BE BORED.
Beta Tested: Lineage 2, Ryzom, City of Heroes, RYL, EverQuest 2 World Of Warcraft European
Truly Loved: World of Warcraft
Beta Tested: Lineage 2, Ryzom, City of Heroes, RYL, EverQuest 2 World Of Warcraft European
Truly Loved: World of Warcraft
I think most people will agree that in an MMO the worst thing a company can do is a character wipe. This usually indicates things are very bad with mechanics/exploits.
Nevrax just did the second worst thing - they made sweeping changes to the gameplay and then reset everyone's skills.
They didn't do it because they like you. They did it because things were extremely out of balance and needed fixing. Sadly, these basic gameplay mechanics should have been obvious in beta and fixed there. The fact that they weren't changed implies they were working as Nevrax intended. That being the case, why change the game *after* release? I understand tweaking, adding content, correcting imbalances to a reasonable extent, but to alter the gameplay to the point it changes every aspect of gameplay for the worse can only mean the game did NOT release in a state that Nevrax was happy with. So why was it released?
Everyone thought the game worked like it was suppoed to in it's released state. Then Nevrax changes everything and we find out after the fact that it wasn't ever working as intended.
This argument is irrefutable.
FACT: They changed the game mechanics in such an extreme way, a skill reset was required. There's no getting around this fact - regardless of how much you claim everything is ok - IT HAPPENED.
FACT: Patch 1 went live and tons of subscribers bailed from all professions and all level ranges. Are you really so arrogant as to believe you know better than all of these people? Trust me, you're only a legend in your own mind. The rest of us think you're an idiot. The only reason Nevrax patched the patch was because of the extreme loss of player accounts. Otherwise, you'd still be getting your level 126 ass handed to you by level 2 mobs. Yeah, that's good gameplay. I'm sure you'd love racking up DP too, and claim that it's really fun to die repeatedly. I think you would say you were a piece of shit just to be different from everyone else. What a moron.
FACT: Nevrax wasn't even going to remedy the combat problems, only the harvesting problems. Why then did they *add* combat changes to a patch intended only to fix harvesting? Again - THIS HAPPENED. You can't make any argument that undoes reality.
I don't really know what else to say. People blindly defend something that is now an obvious problem. Help yourself for crying out loud. Think!