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  • DiSpLiFFDiSpLiFF Member UncommonPosts: 602
    Originally posted by Euphoryk

    Originally posted by DiSpLiFF


    Rofl biggest bullshitter ever, guarantee he never even made it past 1400 rank.
    Have you? It is ridiculously easy to get a 1800+ rating these days. Hell, my alt is 1800+ in 2s and I barely play her at all.
    http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Darrowmere&n=Silentfire
    The graphics in Aion are only focused on character detail, the environment has actually worse graphics than WoW in my opinion. 
    In your opinion, which is far from fact.
    Aion's pvp is pretty terrible especially when you're comming from WoW. It's like old WoW where you had to play 10+ hours a day to get rank 14, its a stupid + old system that has been dropped by any decent mmo nowadays. Honestly if you liked WoW you won't like Aion, I went to Aion with 8 of my buds from WoW. Everyone quit after the first 2 months, most of them went back to WoW. I personally went to EVE. 
    So basically you and your little pals couldn't hack it in a real pvp game, so you scampered back to the special ed class to hang out with the rest of the failures. Cool story bro.
    If you liked the smooth combat, smooth gameplay, rediculous content, fair pvp, competitive pvp, smooth everything from WoW. You won't like Aion, but hey if you want to waste your 40 bucks or however much Aion costs now then go for it. The general public has spoken, Aion was overhyped for most people, some people liked it you maybe one of them. 
    Biased opinions, none of them hold any merit.
    Just a word of advice, if you do end up playing DON'T pick melee in this game. The airiel combat in this game is just stupid for melee. 
    You're terribad lol. No wonder you went back to WoW.



     

    lol fanboi mad at the truth? I already said i didn't go back to WoW i went to EVE. 1800 rating in 2's like come on, 1800 you can't even get anything it means nothing. Real pvp? why because its open pvp? Every game has open pvp, you can go to any of the daily quest spots in WoW and open pvp for hours. Honestly if you can't admit the graphics on the environment in Aion are worse than WoW you're just in denial. 

    Hey you wanna be a blind fanboi go ahead, its not like the points I brought up haven't been discussed by a ton of people. But we're all haters right? right...

    Seriously right when you denied that melee air combat isn't  terrible is where your credibility went out the window.  But you're probably some level 24 toon on Aion that still thinks the game is amazing. 

    PS rifting with 6 people ganking 1-2 people at a time wasn't my idea of pvp it got stale pretty quick. 

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581

    "but get over it. at the end of the day, its personal opinions.. some people really like WOW graphics, personally i prefer Eve's but."

    Sorry I don't understand your post clearly enough but to say he prefers certain graphics to saying it is actually better is completely different. We all have opinions, but you don't outright LIE to prove a point. WOW's environmental graphics are not even comparable to f2p MMOs.

  • DiSpLiFFDiSpLiFF Member UncommonPosts: 602

     my point was that the environment graphics in Aion aren't that great, which a lot of people try and say they're amazing. I'd agree the character details are pretty good. 

    http://images.mmorpg.com/images/galleries/smallThumbs/492009/eccfc7de-c445-436d-b5f5-52bb762360ba.jpg

    All you really have to do is watch the Aion Vision trailer, it shows how insane the graphics improve. If they ever implement that sort of stuff then you can come on here saying Aion's graphics are amazing. 

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581

    I get your point. You could have simply stated it wasn't that great and I would have agreed with you but you had to make comparisons with WOW which I believe is a big nono. Don't ever place WOWs graphics against any recent MMO, f2p or p2p. You still haven't told me your name/lvl/server/legion though.

  • DiSpLiFFDiSpLiFF Member UncommonPosts: 602
    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin


    I get your point. You could have simply stated it wasn't that great and I would have agreed with you but you had to make comparisons with WOW which I believe is a big nono. Don't ever place WOWs graphics against any recent MMO, f2p or p2p. You still haven't told me your name/lvl/server/legion though.

    me? i quit after the second month. I played an elyos assasin on triniel level 39 was the max level i got. Main reasons I quit was that I was expecting a game more like lineage 2, instead I got a game that was a close clone to vanilla WoW. My biggest dissapointment was the fort sieges. Castle sieges in Lineage 2 were epic, thats what i was expecting, i was severely dissapointed to say the least. 

    ps there was already a topic about Aions subpar environment graphics here: 

    http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/253316/AION-subpar-graphics-proof-VS-Lotro.html

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin


    "but get over it. at the end of the day, its personal opinions.. some people really like WOW graphics, personally i prefer Eve's but."
    Sorry I don't understand your post clearly enough but to say he prefers certain graphics to saying it is actually better is completely different. We all have opinions, but you don't outright LIE to prove a point. WOW's environmental graphics are not even comparable to f2p MMOs.



     

    i have played WOW in the past, and while i dont personally think the graphics there are that brilliant, i wouldnt say they are worse than F2P ones, though my experience with F2P's is limited to shayla and perfect world international, which, imo, are definitely inferior graphically to WOW, but if we're going on graphics here, APB... now thats a cool looking game

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by DiSpLiFF

    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin


    I get your point. You could have simply stated it wasn't that great and I would have agreed with you but you had to make comparisons with WOW which I believe is a big nono. Don't ever place WOWs graphics against any recent MMO, f2p or p2p. You still haven't told me your name/lvl/server/legion though.

    me? i quit after the second month. I played an elyos assasin on triniel level 39 was the max level i got. Main reasons I quit was that I was expecting a game more like lineage 2, instead I got a game that was a close clone to vanilla WoW. My biggest dissapointment was the fort sieges. Castle sieges in Lineage 2 were epic, thats what i was expecting, i was severely dissapointed to say the least. 

    Ok fair enough I believe you.

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by Phry

    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin


    "but get over it. at the end of the day, its personal opinions.. some people really like WOW graphics, personally i prefer Eve's but."
    Sorry I don't understand your post clearly enough but to say he prefers certain graphics to saying it is actually better is completely different. We all have opinions, but you don't outright LIE to prove a point. WOW's environmental graphics are not even comparable to f2p MMOs.



     

    i have played WOW in the past, and while i dont personally think the graphics there are that brilliant, i wouldnt say they are worse than F2P ones, though my experience with F2P's is limited to shayla and perfect world international, which, imo, are definitely inferior graphically to WOW, but if we're going on graphics here, APB... now thats a cool looking game

    APB looks alright, but nothing major. Around 90% f2p games have better graphics then wow or are comparable, IMO.

  • makerzyomakerzyo Member Posts: 40

     For me personally smooth Gameplay/Combat > Graphics any day. 

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by makerzyo


     For me personally smooth Gameplay/Combat > Graphics any day. 

    Stating the obvious? duh. Aion has smooth gameplay/combat. If you actually played you would know this.

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by t0nyd




     I bet this game fades in NA but stays strong in the Asian market. I just do not see much potential for Asian grinders in NA.

    No offense, but you just proved the ignorance of some people in this country. Your forgetting Asia (Korea in particular) makes 20x the amount of MMOs for every single American MMO being produced. In Korea, there is no such thing as a popular 4 year old game. Games move much quicker over there then here. If Aion becomes obscure, it will be there before here.

    Before you say L1 and L2, that's before they began mass producing MMOs and it stayed popular in other asian countries besides Korea.

  • Bama1267Bama1267 Member UncommonPosts: 1,822
    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by t0nyd




     I bet this game fades in NA but stays strong in the Asian market. I just do not see much potential for Asian grinders in NA.

    No offense, but you just proved the ignorance of some people in this country. Your forgetting Asia (Korea in particular) makes 20x the amount of MMOs for every single American MMO being produced. In Korea, there is no such thing as a popular 4 year old game. Games move much quicker over there then here. If Aion becomes obscure, it will be there before here.

    Before you say L1 and L2, that's before they began mass producing MMOs and it stayed popular in other asian countries besides Korea.

     

     No offense but you are ignorant. It's ok ...because I said no offense though. His opinion is no worse than your own.. But you are obviously some self proclaimed market analyst am I correct? Good luck denouncing opinons on the internet your excellency ...

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by Bama1267

    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by t0nyd




     I bet this game fades in NA but stays strong in the Asian market. I just do not see much potential for Asian grinders in NA.

    No offense, but you just proved the ignorance of some people in this country. Your forgetting Asia (Korea in particular) makes 20x the amount of MMOs for every single American MMO being produced. In Korea, there is no such thing as a popular 4 year old game. Games move much quicker over there then here. If Aion becomes obscure, it will be there before here.

    Before you say L1 and L2, that's before they began mass producing MMOs and it stayed popular in other asian countries besides Korea.

     

     No offense but you are ignorant. It's ok ...because I said no offense though. His opinion is no worse than your own.. But you are obviously some self proclaimed market analyst am I correct? Good luck denouncing opinons on the internet your excellency ...

    No I just state the obvious. If you can't handle it then GTFO.

  • makerzyomakerzyo Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by makerzyo


     For me personally smooth Gameplay/Combat > Graphics any day. 

    Stating the obvious? duh. Aion has smooth gameplay/combat. If you actually played you would know this.

    The ground pvp combat is good in Aion, and you're right Aion probably has the best gameplay post WoW. 

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908
    Originally posted by meltphaces


    I've been playing WoW exclusively since WOTLK and saw a lot of people buzzing about the game and jumping ship for it a few months back, but now that it's here nobody talks about it anymore. I'm in a position where i'm growing more tired of WoW by the day and looking for something new at least until Cataclysm.. however, after being suckered into the massive failure known as Warhammer Online last year, I swore i'd never jump into another new game again before it proves itself.
    People arnt talking about it?
    I'm not sure why you would think that.. there is plenty of buzz for it still as far as I can see,e specially after the Vision trailer. This board alone is extremely active.
    So, a few questions to people that play Aion:
    1) Has NCSoft finally gotten their shit together and made a stable game for North America that isn't dominated by bots/farmers? Having played Lineage 2 a long time ago i'm suspect of them as a company because they didn't lift a finger to fight the bot/farmer problem back then and it ruined the gaming experience.
    Bots were awful.
    They arnt now
    yes, there is illegal RMT in the game, but only as much now as any SUCCESSFUL game has.
    2) Does Aion seem like a game that will stay strong and grow, or is it likely to dwindle down in population and become a small community or "niche game" like damn near every other non-Blizzard MMO is? My faith in gaming companies that aren't named Blizzard is diminished after being let down by several floundering games over the years..
    There is nothing wrong with it having a smaller player base then WoW. There is nothing wrong in ANY game having a smaller player base then WoW.
    This dosent mean they are 'floundering'.
    The Aion player base is very healthy after the standard post 1st month exodus that ever new release sees.
    3) Is there a worthwhile end-game to speak of (i.e. raiding, pvp, etc) or is this another "we rushed the game out the door unfinished, and will slowly try and develop content while you pay us to beta test it" type of deals? In other words, are people getting to max level then getting bored quickly or is there a lot to do?
    End game is PvP, instances, nameds, forts, raids...
    I am sure people will always get bored in what ever game they play, but is there content? Yes.
    Could there be more? Ofc, every MMO could always do wit more as people blow through whats present.
    4) Can the game be enjoyed without a high-end machine? I have a new alienware laptop that i'm sure can handle it but also a less powerful desktop PC I game on half the time, are there at least some graphic sliders that you can minimize to run it on older PC's?
    Yes.
    5)  If it didn't still have a $50 price tag and no trial I might not have as many questions.. before I even consider trying it are there any known plans to lower the box price or release a trial?
    No, why should there be?
    The game is selling just fine right now as is.
    Bottom line: I'm a 10+ year MMO veteran looking for a new home, but i'm not going to suffer through another experience of blindly buying a new game, enjoying it, only to find out later that there's no end-game and/or no future for the game..  which will send  me running back to WoW because despite its flaws, at least you know it's going to be around in the long run.
    This game isnt going anywhere.



     

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by t0nyd

    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by t0nyd




     I bet this game fades in NA but stays strong in the Asian market. I just do not see much potential for Asian grinders in NA.

    No offense, but you just proved the ignorance of some people in this country. Your forgetting Asia (Korea in particular) makes 20x the amount of MMOs for every single American MMO being produced. In Korea, there is no such thing as a popular 4 year old game. Games move much quicker over there then here. If Aion becomes obscure, it will be there before here.

    Before you say L1 and L2, that's before they began mass producing MMOs and it stayed popular in other asian countries besides Korea.

     

      Last I read, in NA Aion had under 1 mil subs, where as in the Asian market they  topped L1 and L2 with around 4 mil subs. Under 1 mil or around 4 mil, which do you think will fall faster? Also, your saying to ignore L1 and L2, yet Aion is owned by the same company as them. Its like saying, oh blizzard is making a new game, but ignore WoW, WoWs success has no direct correlation to the fact that blizzard developed it....

    Do you really believe they have 4 million players in Asia? They are the second most popular MMO worldwide but 4 million? Yea right. There are no sources to back it up. Secondly, if there were 4 million players they would be in China, not Korea and is operated by another company.

    The time when L1 and L2 were out and now are completely different. Korea produces MMOs rapidly and there is no way one game can maintain success in that country. Not just games, every single thing over there comes and goes quicker then here.

  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581
    Originally posted by t0nyd

    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by t0nyd

    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by t0nyd




     I bet this game fades in NA but stays strong in the Asian market. I just do not see much potential for Asian grinders in NA.

    No offense, but you just proved the ignorance of some people in this country. Your forgetting Asia (Korea in particular) makes 20x the amount of MMOs for every single American MMO being produced. In Korea, there is no such thing as a popular 4 year old game. Games move much quicker over there then here. If Aion becomes obscure, it will be there before here.

    Before you say L1 and L2, that's before they began mass producing MMOs and it stayed popular in other asian countries besides Korea.

     

      Last I read, in NA Aion had under 1 mil subs, where as in the Asian market they  topped L1 and L2 with around 4 mil subs. Under 1 mil or around 4 mil, which do you think will fall faster? Also, your saying to ignore L1 and L2, yet Aion is owned by the same company as them. Its like saying, oh blizzard is making a new game, but ignore WoW, WoWs success has no direct correlation to the fact that blizzard developed it....

    Do you really believe they have 4 million players in Asia? They are the second most popular MMO worldwide but 4 million? Yea right. There are no sources to back it up. Secondly, if there were 4 million players they would be in China, not Korea and is operated by another company.

    The time when L1 and L2 were out and now are completely different. Korea produces MMOs rapidly and there is no way one game can maintain success in that country. Not just games, every single thing over there comes and goes quicker then here.

     

     I did not not specifically say " in Korea". I did say " in Asia ". Obviously, I can not prove NCsoft's numbers, nor do I care to. I do believe that even if they are padding the numbers a bit, 3-4 mil in the Asian market is still a big number when it comes to mmorpg's.

     I am not sure why you focus, specifically on Korea when and if any game has 3-4 mil subs in the Asian market, focusing on one country like Korea, isnt that important. NCsoft is the developer and publisher of AIon, L1, and L2, so I do not understand what you are trying to say when you say " Secondly, if there were 4 million players they would be in China, not Korea and is operated by another company. ". What are you trying to say, that 4 million subs does not matter because they are in china and that even tho NCsoft developed and published the game, that NCsoft is not getting paid and that some other company is? And you call me ignorant, heh.

    I specifically mention Korea as they are the mass producers of MMOs in Asia and most games that come out of there are the ones that are mostly played in China/SE Asian countries. This is something you have to understand. When the next gen of MMOs come out in 2010 by Korea, guaranteed Aion will have a massive decline in Asia as all Korean games release their first before America.

  • LynxJSALynxJSA Member RarePosts: 3,334
    Originally posted by Krn_Assassin

    Originally posted by LynxJSA

    Originally posted by remyburke

    My wife and I hit lvl 27 as a Temp/Cleric combo, and will not be resubbing. Killing mobs for no other reason than a tiny bit of xp and a chance for loot drops is so 1999...and that's a party I don't want to attend anymore.

     

    I got a kick out of that comment, as my Wife said something similar a week ago. :) 

     

     

    Well then your wife was lying as he's lying. There is no such glimpse of a grind in 27 unless your retarded.

     

    I'm sorry. I mistook you for a civil human being with any interest in meaningful discourse. Won't happen again.

    *files the Krn in the Zorndorf/Wizardry folder*

     

     

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  • Krn_AssassinKrn_Assassin Member Posts: 581

    Sorry if I came off as rude, but I'm tired of people spewing bs facts and rumors about the game which isn't even remotely true.

  • ChimpsChimps Member Posts: 192

    Tbh you only find this game shit if you are more into easy games and you rush your ass to ending.

    If you are that kind of person who wants to hit max level asap and get amazing armour wel then this game isnt for you. This game is more for enjoying. If youre tired of the quests and grinding then just go craft and try out the different things aion offers. AIon doesn't only offer grinding and quests it offers exploring and crafting and tons of more stuff. I was tired of questing and grinding i just went to explore the game to see what it really is like. The game is beautiful and after i did that i went back to leveling and today i am lvl 43 so i am enjoying the game. And i have rare taste in games but this game is perfectly fine for me.

     

    I always quit games because i try to much to rush to ending ignoring everything the games offer. I just grind my ass off and that causes me to get really bored so i quit instantly. I learn you shouldn't be a lazy gamer and you should just enjoy the game.

    Lazy gamers always ends up quitting all mmos cause they want everything to be easy and want everything handed to them. I keep saying this in all my posts but its true so many lazy gamers today thats why people love WoW it's easy too easy in fact. It was so difficultt in beginning but now quests offer you so much leveling even at high lvl so i cba with it it's to easy.

  • dannydeucedannydeuce Member Posts: 310

    This game is easy mode in all aspects.

    PvP is centrally based on zerging or being zerged.  This is easy mode.  Dredgion is the exception but 75% of the time you arent even pvping.

    PvE is easy mode in both group and solo.  Solo is button smashing, grouping is tank and spank.  No exceptions.  None.  Every single character from ranger to cleric to templar.  Sure rangers kite and templars use close combat, but its all really the same bs over and over.

    Crafting is not easy nor hard, just based on luck.  You need luck to get drops to get money to get crafting chances to get the uniques to craft. 

    Getting your items to drop is neither hard nor easy, just a massive time sink.

    Exploring?  Aion is beyond a doubt one of those most linear mmo's ive played.  Exploring is not something I'd credit to the games credentials.

    You keep saying "lazy" gamers but I don't think you understand what that means.  Lazy because they work hard to level?  Lazy because they get unlucky with drops over and over and over?  You made zero points other than saying people are lazy because they don't do what you do.  You sir make no sense.

    I love how you add the WoW insult into play like it has any relevance to the rest of your post.  I havent played WoW since vanilla, but I still played longer than I did Aion after I "rushed to 50" in 2 months.  Comparing WoW to Aion is foolish on so many levels.  I quit Aion because I did not enjoy it and I had nothing to do...since all you can do is one of a few things.  

    My daily rant is over, good day to you.

     

  • ozy1ozy1 Member Posts: 309

    Turned into a grind for me so I stopped playing.

    Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  • CammyCammy Member Posts: 864

    Dont listen to Displiff

    He is the #1 Aion hater/troll on these boards and more or less has nothing overally useful to contribute. Everything is "This game isn't WoW so it automatically sucks" replies....

    I've even heard (and this is just a rumor) that he's actually being paid by Blizzard to go to every Aion fans'site in order to bash the game. As I said - this is just a rumor so Im not sure if its REALLY TRUE - but I wouldn't be surprised based on his posting history. Not to mention he STILL posts here almost everyday, yet... "hates" Aion. So Im confused why he's still here on these boards - which leads me to think that "rumor" has a lot of truth to it.

    LOL

    :)

  • ozy1ozy1 Member Posts: 309

    I pay him to bash it I'll have you know!

    Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  • wowfan1996wowfan1996 Member UncommonPosts: 719


    Originally posted by Cammy
    This game isn't WoW so it automatically sucks

    QFT
     
    P.S. Aion popularity is still in decline. After the last (anti-bot) patch the trend has slowed down but there's still a steady 10-15% drop every 2 weeks:
    http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion/

    MMORPG genre is dead. Long live MMOCS (Massively Multiplayer Online Cash Shop).

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