Its a flaw in the system for sure, but some systems are made to have flaws in them. Unless you wanna go to extreme like stat loss there is not gonna be more solutions.
The Alignment system kind of works like the Chinese Internet firewall. Its somewhat easy to overcome with a little bit of work but that work is normally enough to keep the majority of people in line (and not finding out about the tiananmen square massacre). The system Keeps the random noob next to you for instance from PKing you over goblin gold.
Because of this i think it works well enough in the game. I have not had issues of excess pking, especially when they capped the max amount of karma you could gain. Is kind of funny how be able to pre stack up on karma created a far worse PK then the current system where people have to bring themself back from red instead of keeping themselves from becoming.
One of the things I do agree on is this, IMHO I think they should scrap the "race wars alignment BS" and just add in everyone is blue to you, but you can declare war on them.
Or keep race wars, and only way to regain alignment is a time period and/or by doing a special quest. NOT BY KILLING OTHER RACES, THIS PROMOTES GANKERS too much.
They need a time period of reds and a penalty for dying as red, or a good reward for being blue.
Reds should have a murder meter to 100, and if you have 5 murders then when you die, you will have a random skill out of your character picked that goes down by 5 skill points, if you have 100 it will pick a skill that is a hundred and set it to 0, ONLY WAY TO BATTLE THIS SYSTEM IS BY THAT, or just put everyone as red, because atm it means jack sht.
But I do agree on this, but people at DFO dont wont this because they say it will hurt PVP, but IMO A MMORPG PVP GAME NEEDS PVE RPG SOCIAL CRAFTING GATHERING aspects as well to make pvp full.
I stayed all the time in Mirdain lands, so far. I'm jumping from city to city, doing quests and choosing a good home. I spent a lot of time harvesting, to supply ample stuff for my crafting endeavors. Mining Iron has not been easy, so far.
I got bored with Goblins really fast, and moved on to harder enemies. My preferred targets for the moment are the Ciel Fey, Dire Zombies and Hawk Revenants. All provide decent loot (for me, at least) while being challenging at the same time.
I changed my focus from Knifes and Ranged to Greatsword and Ranged, much to my dismay. I still am reluctant to invest time into Magic. Thus, my crafting focus also changed into Armorsmith, Weaponsmith (GS) and Bowyer.
Haven't grouped up, so far, and that's how I wanted. I want to do thing on my own pace.
A small summary:
1 - PVP: None to be had by me, except as an easy frag. No problems here, and cannot comment much more.
2 - PVE: The AI is starting to become stale, for me. Too much running around aimlessly by mobs, lots of illogical actions (standing by while being hacked by me, trying to range and do Magic in Melee, etc). I find it very inconsistent and as such, a little bit of a chore.
3 - Craft: Uneven, but OK for the most part. Progress is very slow now, and it'll be difficult to continue evolving without sinking in massive amounts of time harvesting. I can craft a bare basic for my survival, though. But the equation "cost x benefit x time" is becoming unbalanced.
4 - World: This is probably where I'm having most of my best moments in the game. I like wandering and poking around, and the game does provide a good experience there, for me.
5 - Community: Not as bad as it was, that's for sure. Most of the time, chat is civil and informative.
6 - Economy: Terrible. AV gave us the tools for a better economy and sandboxiness, but they are so rare that their effect on the world is minimal. And, worst of all, it excludes most of the newbies. It needs drastic changes.
7 - Races and Clans: It's very superficial and promotes absolutely no immersion. Penalties for killing the occasional blue is minimal (encouraging senseless ganks), and ARAC guilds are the majority. It could be so much more. It could be the trigger for meaningful PVP, instead of simply being a crutch for random PKing.
8 - GMs and Support: Good. I found a harvesting bot, and managed to contact the GM in a very short notice. Spot on.
9 - Technical issues: Excepting the very annoying ATI video bug, things are smooth. Connection has been stable, FPS too.
Shame I couldn't get a hold of you my last two nights! I was planning on letting you keep all the loot from the pk run. Maybe if you're still playing when I get back?
Well, sadly, my DFO journey ends here. There are several reasons for this.
Life has been busy lately, and a new teaching position has cut my gaming time severely. But, of course, I'll still play games. I simply don't feel like playing DFO anymore. There is little motivation, and I always end up playing something else.
I like PVP. But I like PVP with purpose and consequence. Sadly, both are missing from DFO in the moment. Most clans are in a state of resigned complacency, there is little meaningful fighting to be had. Ganking is what's left for many players, and I'm no ganker.
Small guilds are not very viable at the moment. I don't like playing with large, monolithic guilds. I very much prefer the ways of smaller guilds, and right now, the game is a losing battle for them.
PVE has been lackluster. I can solo effectively quite a few enemies, but group PVE is "tank and spank" of the highest degree. I don't know why some think mobs in DFO are "smarter". They simply have more scripts under the hood and a larger detection radius. They tend to bug easily, they behave very erratically in confined spaces and most are simply spastic.
The game world feels very empty. Not of players, only, but also of life as a whole. Spawns are places inconsistently in some areas (sometimes, very large ones), and you can wander around seeing nothing but the odd badger for quite a while. More wildlife and better placement/area of action for mobs would go a long way, here.
There are LOTS of ill-gotten goods and money in the game. This creates a gap that's difficult to cross, and that makes full loot meaningless for most people engaged in combat.
Crafting and harvesting are ok, albeit very simple. No big issues, here.
The economy is dreadful. Player stores are a complete joke, and global trade revolves around basic commodities, such as Ores, Logs and Steedgrass. There is very little market for crafted goods (since everyone can craft mostly everything), and very little incentive to even engage in commerce, in the first place. The latest focus on the dependency of rare items from Chaos Chests for crafting is also a step in the wrong direction, IMO.
I cannot stress this enough: relying simply on Craft Channel spamming for commerce is abysmally poor mechanism.
There are pluses, of course. When an even match of PVP happens, it's usually a very engaging experience, and definitely the main dish this game has to offer.
The visuals, although poor by most standards, can be endearing, specially under certain weather conditions/period of the day. City design is hit and miss, but there are lots of interesting, meaningful places in the wilds. I had my best moments in the game wandering about and checking places out.
Well, it's it. I gave the game another go, but I simply cannot delve into it as much as I wanted to. Few would dispute that the game improved since launch. It did, and most changes were in the right direction. However, there are still crucial problems that need to be addressed, and that interfered directly in the fun I could extract from the game.
Well, sadly, my DFO journey ends here. There are several reasons for this. Let's see if I fare better elsewhere.
That makes it seven eloquent and intelligent individuals who started and then quit in the past month and posted about it here on the forums.
Every single one of them expressed very similar thoughts on the fundamental flaws of trade, chat and communication etc
I like this game's concepts but in my opinion it is way to flawed in its current form to be viable as a long term game. Change is desperately needed, if you really care about this game you need to join a movement to change it.
Thx for the review. From all i read, im not ready yet for DF the way you described it. Im still waiting teal MO is complete and im waiting for a new upcoming game name War in newerth, a new mmorpg project that will be made by the Savage 2 devs and it will be focus on pvp.
Its isa a good status report OP, but the missing element it appears was your reluctance to join one of the major clans and join in what we're told is the real meat of the game.
Sometimes you can't do what you want, i.e. play in a small clan, you have to try and broaden your horizons and try something different, who knows, the experience might be better in a setting such as DF.
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Its isa a good status report OP, but the missing element it appears was your reluctance to join one of the major clans and join in what we're told is the real meat of the game. Sometimes you can't do what you want, i.e. play in a small clan, you have to try and broaden your horizons and try something different, who knows, the experience might be better in a setting such as DF.
What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect.
While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means.
Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect. While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means. Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
I think its fair to say that this game is not for you and you might want to simply consider another game.
You cant have your own castle and you cant have a snow blower, please move on and find one where you can 'do anything'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Its isa a good status report OP, but the missing element it appears was your reluctance to join one of the major clans and join in what we're told is the real meat of the game. Sometimes you can't do what you want, i.e. play in a small clan, you have to try and broaden your horizons and try something different, who knows, the experience might be better in a setting such as DF.
What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect.
While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means.
Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
Much respect to you Strix. You played, didn't like it and gave concise reasons as to why.
Its isa a good status report OP, but the missing element it appears was your reluctance to join one of the major clans and join in what we're told is the real meat of the game. Sometimes you can't do what you want, i.e. play in a small clan, you have to try and broaden your horizons and try something different, who knows, the experience might be better in a setting such as DF.
What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect.
While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means.
Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
You dont want your own castle, you want your own house. There is housing in MO, you can build everywhere i think. Seriously, do like me and wait teal MO is complete because all the stuff missing in DF are in MO. The way MO did it instead of castle, all clanmates build their house at the same place and it become a city. Then, maybe you can build a wall around all those house. This is way better because not only it promote zerg clan to make a city, but it also promote small group to make only a simple house in the middle of nowhere.
You dont want your own castle, you want your own house. There is housing in MO, you can build everywhere i think. Seriously, do like me and wait teal MO is complete because all the stuff missing in DF are in MO. The way MO did it instead of castle, all clanmates build their house at the same place and it become a city. Then, maybe you can build a wall around all those house. This is way better because not only it promote zerg clan to make a city, but it also promote small group to make only a simple house in the middle of nowhere.
I find a few things of intrest here.
1. a person talking about MO on a DF site makes me ask the question, why are not playing MO and if you cant then MO really isnt a fair comparsion becuase at least with DF you can actually play the game.
2. In my view housing in all games is WAY over rated.
3. You can have housing in DF and people all over the server other than me have a hard on about it.
4. He said he wanted to do "anything" becuase the game was advertised as such. Such customers will NEVER EVER be satisfied.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Thanks for the update Strix. Sorry Darkfall wasn't a good fit with you.
I really appreciate your honesty, and I feel you gave it a fair shot. I can certainly respect that. Hope you find a new game quickly, and congratulations on the new job.
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You dont want your own castle, you want your own house. There is housing in MO, you can build everywhere i think. Seriously, do like me and wait teal MO is complete because all the stuff missing in DF are in MO. The way MO did it instead of castle, all clanmates build their house at the same place and it become a city. Then, maybe you can build a wall around all those house. This is way better because not only it promote zerg clan to make a city, but it also promote small group to make only a simple house in the middle of nowhere.
I find a few things of intrest here.
1. a person talking about MO on a DF site makes me ask the question, why are not playing MO and if you cant then MO really isnt a fair comparsion becuase at least with DF you can actually play the game.
2. In my view housing in all games is WAY over rated.
3. You can have housing in DF and people all over the server other than me have a hard on about it.
4. He said he wanted to do "anything" becuase the game was advertised as such. Such customers will NEVER EVER be satisfied.
I think you are looking at it in a very simplistic way. I don't want to "do anything". There are artificial limits in each and any game, and I'm ok with that. I simply considered that DFO would be more open to varied playstyles and players than it really is.
Interesting thing is that I didn't even mentioned housing. I like housing in games, but I certainly can live without it, provided I can accommodate other needs.
I like PVP. But I like PVP with purpose and consequence. Sadly, both are missing from DFO in the moment.
I knew you wouldn't last and its idiotic statements like this that prove that DFO was never for you. You are no better that 2/10 Ed Zitron, you may like to type pretty words and pretend you are intelligent but in the end you just don't "get it".
I like PVP. But I like PVP with purpose and consequence. Sadly, both are missing from DFO in the moment.
I knew you wouldn't last and its idiotic statements like this that prove that DFO was never for you. You are no better that 2/10 Ed Zitron, you may like to type pretty words and pretend you are intelligent but in the end you just don't "get it".
This is how an truly intelligent person reviews Darkfall.
IMO you are off with this here. Strix has gone a long way and really stayed for fully 30 days and give it a fair try. His critics has also matured with his experience, there is no comparsion to Ed's "there is no hit indication", "you can't change weapons fast" and other really false presentation of the core data.
Strix just has "wrong" opinions now on mob AI and "grind" and purpose and consequences of DarkFall PvP etc
Now its a matter of design believes we can argue over and believes are always arguable
I had high hopes you would finally like it Strix, however good luck on finding an MMO that you will like.
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I like PVP. But I like PVP with purpose and consequence. Sadly, both are missing from DFO in the moment.
I knew you wouldn't last and its idiotic statements like this that prove that DFO was never for you. You are no better that 2/10 Ed Zitron, you may like to type pretty words and pretend you are intelligent but in the end you just don't "get it".
This is how an truly intelligent person reviews Darkfall.
/fail.
How can you say that he is an other ed zitron? What ed zitron did is comparing game like wow to DFO and thats why he deserved all that hatred because darkfall and wow are different games while and ed zitron, i guess he play only mmorpg's that are wow clones.
So for you, an interligent person is a vet? Please, C'mon son, get the fck out with that bull sht.
as the proverb goes "Darkfall is not for everyone". Good luck in your search for a game.
So in your little vet brain, you deny all he said in his review by saying that darkfall is not for everyone? Wow, so if thats how most of you vet react, change your proverb please its old. Back then, it was good to use that proverb, but today, there is too much problem in DF to simply leave by saying that darkfall is not for everyone.
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Its a flaw in the system for sure, but some systems are made to have flaws in them. Unless you wanna go to extreme like stat loss there is not gonna be more solutions.
The Alignment system kind of works like the Chinese Internet firewall. Its somewhat easy to overcome with a little bit of work but that work is normally enough to keep the majority of people in line (and not finding out about the tiananmen square massacre). The system Keeps the random noob next to you for instance from PKing you over goblin gold.
Because of this i think it works well enough in the game. I have not had issues of excess pking, especially when they capped the max amount of karma you could gain. Is kind of funny how be able to pre stack up on karma created a far worse PK then the current system where people have to bring themself back from red instead of keeping themselves from becoming.
One of the things I do agree on is this, IMHO I think they should scrap the "race wars alignment BS" and just add in everyone is blue to you, but you can declare war on them.
Or keep race wars, and only way to regain alignment is a time period and/or by doing a special quest. NOT BY KILLING OTHER RACES, THIS PROMOTES GANKERS too much.
They need a time period of reds and a penalty for dying as red, or a good reward for being blue.
Reds should have a murder meter to 100, and if you have 5 murders then when you die, you will have a random skill out of your character picked that goes down by 5 skill points, if you have 100 it will pick a skill that is a hundred and set it to 0, ONLY WAY TO BATTLE THIS SYSTEM IS BY THAT, or just put everyone as red, because atm it means jack sht.
But I do agree on this, but people at DFO dont wont this because they say it will hurt PVP, but IMO A MMORPG PVP GAME NEEDS PVE RPG SOCIAL CRAFTING GATHERING aspects as well to make pvp full.
my 2 cents.
OK, 11 days in, time to do some pondering:
I stayed all the time in Mirdain lands, so far. I'm jumping from city to city, doing quests and choosing a good home. I spent a lot of time harvesting, to supply ample stuff for my crafting endeavors. Mining Iron has not been easy, so far.
I got bored with Goblins really fast, and moved on to harder enemies. My preferred targets for the moment are the Ciel Fey, Dire Zombies and Hawk Revenants. All provide decent loot (for me, at least) while being challenging at the same time.
I changed my focus from Knifes and Ranged to Greatsword and Ranged, much to my dismay. I still am reluctant to invest time into Magic. Thus, my crafting focus also changed into Armorsmith, Weaponsmith (GS) and Bowyer.
Haven't grouped up, so far, and that's how I wanted. I want to do thing on my own pace.
A small summary:
1 - PVP: None to be had by me, except as an easy frag. No problems here, and cannot comment much more.
2 - PVE: The AI is starting to become stale, for me. Too much running around aimlessly by mobs, lots of illogical actions (standing by while being hacked by me, trying to range and do Magic in Melee, etc). I find it very inconsistent and as such, a little bit of a chore.
3 - Craft: Uneven, but OK for the most part. Progress is very slow now, and it'll be difficult to continue evolving without sinking in massive amounts of time harvesting. I can craft a bare basic for my survival, though. But the equation "cost x benefit x time" is becoming unbalanced.
4 - World: This is probably where I'm having most of my best moments in the game. I like wandering and poking around, and the game does provide a good experience there, for me.
5 - Community: Not as bad as it was, that's for sure. Most of the time, chat is civil and informative.
6 - Economy: Terrible. AV gave us the tools for a better economy and sandboxiness, but they are so rare that their effect on the world is minimal. And, worst of all, it excludes most of the newbies. It needs drastic changes.
7 - Races and Clans: It's very superficial and promotes absolutely no immersion. Penalties for killing the occasional blue is minimal (encouraging senseless ganks), and ARAC guilds are the majority. It could be so much more. It could be the trigger for meaningful PVP, instead of simply being a crutch for random PKing.
8 - GMs and Support: Good. I found a harvesting bot, and managed to contact the GM in a very short notice. Spot on.
9 - Technical issues: Excepting the very annoying ATI video bug, things are smooth. Connection has been stable, FPS too.
Shame I couldn't get a hold of you my last two nights! I was planning on letting you keep all the loot from the pk run.
Maybe if you're still playing when I get back?
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Well, sadly, my DFO journey ends here. There are several reasons for this.
Life has been busy lately, and a new teaching position has cut my gaming time severely. But, of course, I'll still play games. I simply don't feel like playing DFO anymore. There is little motivation, and I always end up playing something else.
I like PVP. But I like PVP with purpose and consequence. Sadly, both are missing from DFO in the moment. Most clans are in a state of resigned complacency, there is little meaningful fighting to be had. Ganking is what's left for many players, and I'm no ganker.
Small guilds are not very viable at the moment. I don't like playing with large, monolithic guilds. I very much prefer the ways of smaller guilds, and right now, the game is a losing battle for them.
PVE has been lackluster. I can solo effectively quite a few enemies, but group PVE is "tank and spank" of the highest degree. I don't know why some think mobs in DFO are "smarter". They simply have more scripts under the hood and a larger detection radius. They tend to bug easily, they behave very erratically in confined spaces and most are simply spastic.
The game world feels very empty. Not of players, only, but also of life as a whole. Spawns are places inconsistently in some areas (sometimes, very large ones), and you can wander around seeing nothing but the odd badger for quite a while. More wildlife and better placement/area of action for mobs would go a long way, here.
There are LOTS of ill-gotten goods and money in the game. This creates a gap that's difficult to cross, and that makes full loot meaningless for most people engaged in combat.
Crafting and harvesting are ok, albeit very simple. No big issues, here.
The economy is dreadful. Player stores are a complete joke, and global trade revolves around basic commodities, such as Ores, Logs and Steedgrass. There is very little market for crafted goods (since everyone can craft mostly everything), and very little incentive to even engage in commerce, in the first place. The latest focus on the dependency of rare items from Chaos Chests for crafting is also a step in the wrong direction, IMO.
I cannot stress this enough: relying simply on Craft Channel spamming for commerce is abysmally poor mechanism.
There are pluses, of course. When an even match of PVP happens, it's usually a very engaging experience, and definitely the main dish this game has to offer.
The visuals, although poor by most standards, can be endearing, specially under certain weather conditions/period of the day. City design is hit and miss, but there are lots of interesting, meaningful places in the wilds. I had my best moments in the game wandering about and checking places out.
Well, it's it. I gave the game another go, but I simply cannot delve into it as much as I wanted to. Few would dispute that the game improved since launch. It did, and most changes were in the right direction. However, there are still crucial problems that need to be addressed, and that interfered directly in the fun I could extract from the game.
Let's see if I fare better elsewhere.
That makes it seven eloquent and intelligent individuals who started and then quit in the past month and posted about it here on the forums.
Every single one of them expressed very similar thoughts on the fundamental flaws of trade, chat and communication etc
I like this game's concepts but in my opinion it is way to flawed in its current form to be viable as a long term game. Change is desperately needed, if you really care about this game you need to join a movement to change it.
Good luck!
Im very glad you tryed it Strix. DF is to difficult to explain to someone. It is better to try it : )
Have fun and i hope you fnd another fun MMO in the future.
Thx for the review. From all i read, im not ready yet for DF the way you described it. Im still waiting teal MO is complete and im waiting for a new upcoming game name War in newerth, a new mmorpg project that will be made by the Savage 2 devs and it will be focus on pvp.
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Its isa a good status report OP, but the missing element it appears was your reluctance to join one of the major clans and join in what we're told is the real meat of the game.
Sometimes you can't do what you want, i.e. play in a small clan, you have to try and broaden your horizons and try something different, who knows, the experience might be better in a setting such as DF.
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What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect.
While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means.
Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
I think its fair to say that this game is not for you and you might want to simply consider another game.
You cant have your own castle and you cant have a snow blower, please move on and find one where you can 'do anything'
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect.
While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means.
Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
Much respect to you Strix. You played, didn't like it and gave concise reasons as to why.
What you say is true, to some extent. However, I want to build my own kind of castle in the sandboxes I play in. When the game touts that it offers total freedom, that's what i expect.
While playing in a large guild might elevate the fun factor for most, it's not the kind of confinement/drama that I enjoy playing with. But this thread is only that: my report on the pros/cons I personally experienced in the game. It's not a generalization of what happens with everyone in the game, by any means.
Finally, I'm not complaining/QQing/hating or such. I simply could not enjoy the game, for a number of reasons. Here, the ubiquitous "YMMV" is aptly used.
You dont want your own castle, you want your own house. There is housing in MO, you can build everywhere i think. Seriously, do like me and wait teal MO is complete because all the stuff missing in DF are in MO. The way MO did it instead of castle, all clanmates build their house at the same place and it become a city. Then, maybe you can build a wall around all those house. This is way better because not only it promote zerg clan to make a city, but it also promote small group to make only a simple house in the middle of nowhere.
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I find a few things of intrest here.
1. a person talking about MO on a DF site makes me ask the question, why are not playing MO and if you cant then MO really isnt a fair comparsion becuase at least with DF you can actually play the game.
2. In my view housing in all games is WAY over rated.
3. You can have housing in DF and people all over the server other than me have a hard on about it.
4. He said he wanted to do "anything" becuase the game was advertised as such. Such customers will NEVER EVER be satisfied.
Please do not respond to me, even if I ask you a question, its rhetorical.
Please do not respond to me
Thanks for the update Strix. Sorry Darkfall wasn't a good fit with you.
I really appreciate your honesty, and I feel you gave it a fair shot. I can certainly respect that. Hope you find a new game quickly, and congratulations on the new job.
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I find a few things of intrest here.
1. a person talking about MO on a DF site makes me ask the question, why are not playing MO and if you cant then MO really isnt a fair comparsion becuase at least with DF you can actually play the game.
2. In my view housing in all games is WAY over rated.
3. You can have housing in DF and people all over the server other than me have a hard on about it.
4. He said he wanted to do "anything" becuase the game was advertised as such. Such customers will NEVER EVER be satisfied.
I think you are looking at it in a very simplistic way. I don't want to "do anything". There are artificial limits in each and any game, and I'm ok with that. I simply considered that DFO would be more open to varied playstyles and players than it really is.
Interesting thing is that I didn't even mentioned housing. I like housing in games, but I certainly can live without it, provided I can accommodate other needs.
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Thanks much. It'll be a nice change of pace in my life.
Strix, is your acct dead? If not, how about logging on ONE more time so I can take you on a good run?
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I knew you wouldn't last and its idiotic statements like this that prove that DFO was never for you. You are no better that 2/10 Ed Zitron, you may like to type pretty words and pretend you are intelligent but in the end you just don't "get it".
http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/01/05/the-best-thing-about-darkfall
This is how an truly intelligent person reviews Darkfall.
I knew you wouldn't last and its idiotic statements like this that prove that DFO was never for you. You are no better that 2/10 Ed Zitron, you may like to type pretty words and pretend you are intelligent but in the end you just don't "get it".
http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/01/05/the-best-thing-about-darkfall
This is how an truly intelligent person reviews Darkfall.
IMO you are off with this here. Strix has gone a long way and really stayed for fully 30 days and give it a fair try. His critics has also matured with his experience, there is no comparsion to Ed's "there is no hit indication", "you can't change weapons fast" and other really false presentation of the core data.
Strix just has "wrong" opinions now on mob AI and "grind" and purpose and consequences of DarkFall PvP etc
Now its a matter of design believes we can argue over and believes are always arguable
I had high hopes you would finally like it Strix, however good luck on finding an MMO that you will like.
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I knew you wouldn't last and its idiotic statements like this that prove that DFO was never for you. You are no better that 2/10 Ed Zitron, you may like to type pretty words and pretend you are intelligent but in the end you just don't "get it".
http://www.mmocrunch.com/2010/01/05/the-best-thing-about-darkfall
This is how an truly intelligent person reviews Darkfall.
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How can you say that he is an other ed zitron? What ed zitron did is comparing game like wow to DFO and thats why he deserved all that hatred because darkfall and wow are different games while and ed zitron, i guess he play only mmorpg's that are wow clones.
So for you, an interligent person is a vet? Please, C'mon son, get the fck out with that bull sht.
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Sadly yes, I decided to cancel at the renewal moment. But thanks for the offer, I might take it elsewhere
Have fun.
as the proverb goes "Darkfall is not for everyone".
Good luck in your search for a game.
So in your little vet brain, you deny all he said in his review by saying that darkfall is not for everyone? Wow, so if thats how most of you vet react, change your proverb please its old. Back then, it was good to use that proverb, but today, there is too much problem in DF to simply leave by saying that darkfall is not for everyone.
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