Cartoony Graphics not acceptable anymore?

tro44_1

Cartoony Graphics/ Non-High lvl graphic are not accepted anymore?

In my opinion if the Developers were to put less focus on graphics, and instead focus on Animations and Dungons, then we would have better MMORPGs now days. Shouldn’t Gameplay be more important than Graphics? Because older MMOs didn’t have fancy graphics we have today. And games like WoW and ROM prove that Graphics isn’t everything.

I would rather the developers spend their time developing Good Animations, such as Movement, and Melee Swings and such, rather than how many Pixels the game has.

Since systems are becoming more powerful, wouldn’t that Power show more gameplay wise, with lesser graphics? The more graphical the game is, the harder it would be to handle the Mass Scale gameplay, that makes MMORPGs different from RPGs.

We may have had some decent game releases, if the developers didn’t make Graphics one of their main features. Just look at AoC for example.

IMO, these developers fear the criticism that WoW gets for its graphics engine.

Anybody Agree?

 

Archemorous

What most people seem to forget is that WoW's graphics are the way they are because they are consistent with the universe its based on. QQ more I say to them.

hidden1

I'd don't mind cartoony graphics if they are detailed and interesting in artstyle.  Howerver, Champions Online cell-shaded cartoony look was bad not because of the cartonniness of it all but was more the fault of the artist style (or lack of style imo).

Borderlands had a cartoony look to it, but they did it right, the artstyle had a definately quirky, but cool looking blend of sci fi and western style to it.  And the quality of the art, the detail, of the backgrounds, made the world come alive.

Holgranth

I can't make up my mind if you are either the worlds ultimate undercover troll or actually belive all the threads you post or both.

As it is I decline to vote. I think that gameplay/graphics however it all depends on taste and audience.

godseek3r

AoC has realistic graphics, or whatever you'd like to call them, and barely anyone can run it at high settings.

WoW has cartoon graphics, and everyone, so long as they have a decent rig, can run it at maxed settings with 75FPS.

 

Cartoon graphics are the way to go in my opinion.

tro44_1

Originally posted by Holgranth


I can't make up my mind if you are either the worlds ultimate undercover troll or actually belive all the threads you post or both.
As it is I decline to vote. I think that gameplay/graphics however it all depends on taste and audience.

 

Yes I am the World’s Ultimate TROLL,,,

OK Did that satisfy your Ego espeen ?

 

Now will you answer

Branko2307

 

 

I prefer Allods grafix over any other game to bad the game's spells and abilities dont seem good ot me

pauldriver

I personally couldn't care less about graphics and I'm don't think animations are a particularly big deal either. To give an example AO is still an amazing game even though it is the graphical equivalent of kick in the teeth. Yet still it is one of the best MMO's out there and the only problem with it is a woeful population.

If MMO designers could be bothered to put time and loving care into making a game they believe in rather than sodomising intellectual property/copying the fotm/y/wow or just generally chasing cash we wouldn't have this garbage that is continuously regurgitated time and time again.

Gwendle

Older games have less sophisticated graphics because they are... umm.. older. There's no excuse for new games to have crap visuals. And while gameplay is ultimately the most important thing in a game, if the graphics suck or are outdated, then I believe a lot of people won't enjoy it as much.

Holgranth

Originally posted by tro44_1

Originally posted by Holgranth


I can't make up my mind if you are either the worlds ultimate undercover troll or actually belive all the threads you post or both.
As it is I decline to vote. I think that gameplay/graphics however it all depends on taste and audience.

 

Yes I am the World’s Ultimate TROLL,,,

OK Did that satisfy your Ego espeen ?

 

Now will you answer

You be da ultimate troll mon? You be jammon! Wha chou use mon? Da head hunta shadow hunta rush? Batridas? Both? I be using Shadow Hunta 5 head huntas 3 witch Doctas 8 bat ridas fully teched fo me troll rushin.

 

(Don't feed me lines like that seriously)

pauldriver

Originally posted by Gonodar


Older games have less sophisticated graphics because they are... umm.. older. There's no excuse for new games to have crap visuals. And while gameplay is ultimately the most important thing in a game, if the graphics suck or are outdated, then I believe a lot of people won't enjoy it as much.

 

While this is true, graphics should under no circumstance be the defining factor in the developers minds while building an MMO.

Wickedjelly

Eh, graphics aren't the end all, be all for me but they do matter to me to an extent.  Although I certainly care more about the actual gameplay than how tantalizing the eye candy is.

Of course, quite frankly if some games that offer things like huge, epic PvP battles can't properly handle them even when your running the game at or above their recommended pc specs then maybe they should downgrade things like graphics more.  I would certainly rather experience a huge battle between players without having massive lag fits or in some cases even having the damn server itself crash.

So graphics matter to me but in the whole scheme of things they matter the least compared to other features I like in an mmo, and if by sacrificing graphics to a degree a game can offer better features in those other areas then all the more power to them.

uquipu

 Lag versus how poor the graphics are?

Anything to cut lag.  Lag is the biggest game killer for me.

I think one of WoW's biggest selling points is it's low system requirements and lack of lag.

 

inBOIL

I really mean this

Nethack owns the best graphics title still.

Theres no game what could come even close,theres no painted picture what can make more realistic pictures than my own imagination.

so if those graphics works even somehow that you can believe in  to that picture ,then theres nothing wrong.

if you can do something to that picture then its even better.

but if that picture is allmost photograph and you cant believe on it and you cant do anything to it,well then its something totally different.

 

benmou13

Originally posted by uquipu


 Lag versus how poor the graphics are?
Anything to cut lag.  Lag is the biggest game killer for me.
I think one of WoW's biggest selling points is it's low system requirements and lack of lag.
 

 

you call that a selling point? Lol wow would be so proud but thats about all the game does right anywho. I think we've had to many games that look alike and i like the indie developers that go for photo realism.

Archemorous

Originally posted by benmou13

Originally posted by uquipu


 Lag versus how poor the graphics are?
Anything to cut lag.  Lag is the biggest game killer for me.
I think one of WoW's biggest selling points is it's low system requirements and lack of lag.
 

 

you call that a selling point? Lol wow would be so proud but thats about all the game does right anywho. I think we've had to many games that look alike and i like the indie developers that go for photo realism.

 

and how many of them succeeded?

spades07

as I always say- a style determines what kind of a experience a game strives to achieve. I mean you look Call of Duty, and you look at TF2- the choice of graphics for each is for a reason. Same as WoW, and say Oblivion. So cartoon graphics are very acceptable, though not suited for every type of game experience.

Ilvaldyr

Less is more, imo.

Gameplay and performance matter to me far more than graphics do. Photo-realistic DX12 graphics ain't much use if the average computer can't run 'em, and if the gameplay sucks then there's no real point in even trying.

marcuslm

 I happen to love cartoony graphics if they are done right. Cartoony doesn't have to look like Hello Kitty Online. Allods online, for example, has awesome cartoony graphics in my opinion. People always complain about WoW, but I have always loved the graphics in WoW. Like someone already said, they fit the game and the lore. It can depend on the game. Requiem, a horror MMORPG, with cartoony graphics just would not work. A lot of times I think games that attempt realism, but use a lower quality engine, end up looking much worse than if they would have just went with a more stylized cartoony look. 

 

One thing is for sure, cartoony graphics tend to age a whole lot better. Graphics that attempt realism show their age to a much greater degree as technology advances.

 

Marcus

Mikeha

I dont like Cartoony graphics unless its a great art syle. The only game that I have ever played and loved the cartoony graphics was Zelda Wind Waker.

Bloodaxes

Till were not talking runescape graphic detail I could care less if it's cartoonish/anime/realistic/whatever.

BUT a known fact is that realistic graphics need more work then cartoonish to look good, in realistic games ugly spots or bad textures are more visible then in a cartoony game.

Sovrath

Originally posted by tro44_1


Cartoony Graphics/ Non-High lvl graphic are not accepted anymore?


In my opinion if the Developers were to put less focus on graphics, and instead focus on Animations and Dungons, then we would have better MMORPGs now days. Shouldn’t Gameplay be more important than Graphics? Because older MMOs didn’t have fancy graphics we have today. And games like WoW and ROM prove that Graphics isn’t everything.


I would rather the developers spend their time developing Good Animations, such as Movement, and Melee Swings and such, rather than how many Pixels the game has.


Since systems are becoming more powerful, wouldn’t that Power show more gameplay wise, with lesser graphics? The more graphical the game is, the harder it would be to handle the Mass Scale gameplay, that makes MMORPGs different from RPGs.

We may have had some decent game releases, if the developers didn’t make Graphics one of their main features. Just look at AoC for example.


IMO, these developers fear the criticism that WoW gets for its graphics engine.


Anybody Agree?

 

 

It doesn't have anything to do with whether having realistic art design over a stylized art design is better.

It's an artistic decision. Surely a game like AoC benefits from having a more photorealistic world where games like WoW draw from the art design of previous games.

It's just a decision. Just one way to go.

Angorim

The only example of cartoony graphics I've ever liked is TF2 and that is due to the entire game being one giant joke, filled with humor and imbalances.  It works because the game was modeled that way and it's a strange blend of great fun.

That being said, I absolutely hate cartoon graphics in an mmorpg setting and love the photo-realistic style graphics.  I love dark, gritty atmopsheres with my fantasy games and it just doesn't work for me when everything is so bright and colorful.  I have since invested in my computer and can run max settings on most games and if I'm going to be playing a game for many months, I don't want to be in a cartoon playground when I do.

QSatu

I don't understand why people think cartoony graphics = small sys requirements. guild Wars don't have cartoony graphics imo and I can run it with better fps than WoW. Good engine > all. The art style has nothing to do with it.

Axehilt

Originally posted by Archemorous


What most people seem to forget is that WoW's graphics are the way they are because they are consistent with the universe its based on. QQ more I say to them.

 

Both that, and the fact that Blizzard makes games people can play without upgrading their system.

This thread is a little ridiculous.  Good art is good art.  Only a minority gets hung up on realism if the art style is good (although a second minority can get hung up on other factors, like the effeminate male characters in Aion.)

Honestly non-realistic art styles tend to be more open to using graphics which are better for gameplay -- the artists draw things with less concern over "does this look real?" and more concern over "does this communicate the game concept it needs to?"

Wickedjelly

Originally posted by benmou13


you call that a selling point? Lol wow would be so proud but thats about all the game does right anywho. I think we've had to many games that look alike and i like the indie developers that go for photo realism.

 

Not sure why you find his post funny.  He's right far as I'm concerned in his post.  Not everyone has the money to be able to afford to upgrade their pcs all the time like you or I may be able to so for them it is a selling point.  There a lot out there that feel one of the reasons WoW has the draw it does is because of the low system reqs.  Think they're right myself personally.