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Quitting Darkfall: I have to put effort into developing my character

trashburnintrashburnin Member Posts: 223

Hi, I just got Darkfall two weeks ago and already I quit.  I tried to beat someone who had put 6 months into developing their char in a 1v1 fight and I died and lost my goblin loot which I farmed for 8 hours without banking.    Whoever has the highest HP automatically wins in Darkfall because it is not based on player skill at all.   Why should I be forced to play the game to develop my stats if I want to kill someone who has put more effort into their character than me? 

I know they increased skill  and stat gains in PVE to make macroing obsolete and that newly created characters have a little less than half the HP of a potentially maxed HP char in Darkfall  but still I would have a better chance against a level 80 in WoW as a level 1 than as a new player in Darkfall when trying to kill anyone at all in the whole game.

 I don't like to play games where whoever puts more effort into developing their character has a greater chance of winning.  Darkfall is going to fail if they don't change.

 

 

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  • Luthor_XoXLuthor_XoX Member Posts: 3
    Originally posted by trashburnin


    Hi, I just got Darkfall two weeks ago and already I quit.  I tried to beat someone who had put 6 months into developing their char in a 1v1 fight and I died and lost my goblin loot which I farmed for 8 hours without banking.    Whoever has the highest HP automatically wins in Darkfall because it is not based on player skill at all.   Why should I be forced to play the game to develop my stats if I want to kill someone who has put more effort into their character than me? 
    I know they increased skill  and stat gains in PVE to make macroing obsolete and that newly created characters have a little less than half the HP of a potentially maxed HP char in Darkfall  but still I would have a better chance against a level 80 in WoW as a level 1 than as a new player in Darkfall when trying to kill anyone at all in the whole game.
     I don't like to play games where whoever puts more effort into developing their character has a greater chance of winning.  Darkfall is going to fail if they don't change.
     
     



     

    The sarcasm is strong in this one!

     

    ~ +1

  • JixxJixx Member Posts: 159

    uhm yeah.  Sounds like a troll to me.

    Did anybody get COD: Modern Warfare 2 for Christmas?  I got that game and its a blast.  Usually I shy away from those types of games since people who have had it longer always have more toys but the game is really easy to get in to.  And not having everything doesn't really matter since you get the some of the more important stuff early on in levels.

  • DreddsDredds Member Posts: 85

    Can I have your stuff?

     

    Oh that's right, you got anal violationed and lost it all o_0

  • YamotaYamota Member UncommonPosts: 6,593
    Originally posted by trashburnin


    Hi, I just got Darkfall two weeks ago and already I quit.  I tried to beat someone who had put 6 months into developing their char in a 1v1 fight and I died and lost my goblin loot which I farmed for 8 hours without banking.    Whoever has the highest HP automatically wins in Darkfall because it is not based on player skill at all.   Why should I be forced to play the game to develop my stats if I want to kill someone who has put more effort into their character than me? 
    I know they increased skill  and stat gains in PVE to make macroing obsolete and that newly created characters have a little less than half the HP of a potentially maxed HP char in Darkfall  but still I would have a better chance against a level 80 in WoW as a level 1 than as a new player in Darkfall when trying to kill anyone at all in the whole game.
     I don't like to play games where whoever puts more effort into developing their character has a greater chance of winning.  Darkfall is going to fail if they don't change.
     
     

     

    Oh yes, it is SO common for a newbie to "try and beat someone who had put 6 months into developing their char". More likely it is "I got repeteadly ganked, while trying to figure out the game, by a group of people who had put 6 months into exploiting and macroing their character". That is Darkfall in a nutshell.

    They say games like this are "hardcore" but I dont see what is so hardcore about 10 maxed out characters ganking newbies.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    You get  for sarcasm for me...

    Now beside that we need to examine if  DF sets an unfair advantage to those who invest more in game over those who invest less. The case of a 2 weeks old char wanting to successfully take on any player is outa question, DF isn't a "shooter" nor a pure PvP game..

    After the noumerous balance patches i am also think of skill gain grind has been watered down and new players can catch up here in a very reasonable time.

    So its the stats in question...can be divided into sub questions..for which situations matter the stats of a single char ? How usefull are stats, can they really decide fights ? Do they exists alternatives to having the same amount of a "statpool" to be competitive ? 

     

     

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  • eman_laertoneman_laerton Member Posts: 47
    Originally posted by trashburnin


    Hi, I just got Darkfall two weeks ago and already I quit.  I tried to beat someone who had put 6 months into developing their char in a 1v1 fight and I died and lost my goblin loot which I farmed for 8 hours without banking.    Whoever has the highest HP automatically wins in Darkfall because it is not based on player skill at all.   Why should I be forced to play the game to develop my stats if I want to kill someone who has put more effort into their character than me? 
    I know they increased skill  and stat gains in PVE to make macroing obsolete and that newly created characters have a little less than half the HP of a potentially maxed HP char in Darkfall  but still I would have a better chance against a level 80 in WoW as a level 1 than as a new player in Darkfall when trying to kill anyone at all in the whole game.
     I don't like to play games where whoever puts more effort into developing their character has a greater chance of winning.  Darkfall is going to fail if they don't change.
     
     

    I'm sorry you feel that my posts are unsubstatiated whining but I'm just trying to make some points. Another thing besides the "stat grind" and "inability to have PVP fun for months" problems, the other issue is the differentiation of types of players. Where are the mages and melee fighters? Everyone is everything which makes the game seem gereric and ...well...undifferentiated and bland. There should be spending limits in different types of play to make the game more complex and enjoyable.

     

    Also your use of sarcasm is as sophomoric as my lazy and ponderous spelling and grammar errors. Thanks!  :D

  • ozy1ozy1 Member Posts: 309

    Nothing to add, OP is spot on!

     

    Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  • RealbigdealRealbigdeal Member UncommonPosts: 1,666

    That must be a sarcasm. Ignore it.

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  • ozy1ozy1 Member Posts: 309
    Originally posted by Realbigdeal


    That must be a sarcasm. Ignore it.

     

    Really?

    Playing Darkfall EU1 Server

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Thank you OP! I needed something entertaining to do while I consumed some turkey leftovers. The g/f won't stop watching Anne of Green Gables. AHHH!

    Frankly, I really don't blame you. You see I strictly play games that give me everything on a silver platter, I would suggest you do the same. If any effort is required in any way shape or form, that's it I'm out. I'm the same in real life. You should see my house.

    "Mr. Rothstein, your people never will understand... the way it works out here. You're all just our guests. But you act like you're at home. Let me tell you something, partner. You ain't home. But that's where we're gonna send you if it harelips the governor." - Pat Webb

  • KenaoshiKenaoshi Member UncommonPosts: 1,022

    well now that your leaving can you send pm me your acount and pasword so i can try this game? just wanna make sure im not gonna lag before buying, thanks in advance.

    all this hatred for 1 game, this thing must be really that good if that shake your emotions in just 2 weeks =)

    now: GW2 (11 80s).
    Dark Souls 2.
    future: Mount&Blade 2 BannerLord.
    "Bro, do your even fractal?"
    Recommends: Guild Wars 2, Dark Souls, Mount&Blade: Warband, Kingdoms of Amalur: Reckoning.

  • Hellrazor27Hellrazor27 Member Posts: 55

    +1 trolling

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  • crysentcrysent Member UncommonPosts: 841
    Originally posted by trashburnin


    Hi, I just got Darkfall two weeks ago and already I quit.  I tried to beat someone who had put 6 months into developing their char in a 1v1 fight and I died and lost my goblin loot which I farmed for 8 hours without banking.    Whoever has the highest HP automatically wins in Darkfall because it is not based on player skill at all.   Why should I be forced to play the game to develop my stats if I want to kill someone who has put more effort into their character than me? 
    I know they increased skill  and stat gains in PVE to make macroing obsolete and that newly created characters have a little less than half the HP of a potentially maxed HP char in Darkfall  but still I would have a better chance against a level 80 in WoW as a level 1 than as a new player in Darkfall when trying to kill anyone at all in the whole game.
     I don't like to play games where whoever puts more effort into developing their character has a greater chance of winning.  Darkfall is going to fail if they don't change.
     
     

     

    No dude, don't quit! All you need to do is invest every waking hour of your time into this awsome game! Look exploit, exploit, exploit! and you will be rewarded, thats the theme song. See the trick here is not to look at it as investing time into stat raising, just look at it as a disguised grind in the form of "stats" and "skills", they might as well have just put levels in.

     

    Don't give up yet man, only 5 months of non-stop macoing in your guild city and you will be caught up with current players skill, hey if you macro for the next year straight non-stop you can max out EVERY SINGLE SKILL in the game!!! because there is no skill cap, you can be a one man army!!!!

     

    dont give up, im a hardcore fanboy and this is the best grind game that awards exploiters ever made!! not to mention we have the best community of 16 year olds you can find anywhere in the mmo community!!!

     

  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627

    This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052
    Originally posted by Teala


    This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.

     

    No it's not.  You're just pissed because as a QQ'er you have been put in your place.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    OP has good points tho, it sound stupid to being unwilllingly investing effort in developing your chars attribute and skills in a type of game that has it as core idea like MMORG's do, that stupidity has been excellent portray'ed in a very humoristic way by OP.

    If someone wanted discussion they would have answered to my question in my first post btw ;)

    and QQ about OP QQ'ing about QQ'er is even more worse ;)

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  • TealaTeala Member RarePosts: 7,627
    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by Teala


    This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.

     

    No it's not.  You're just pissed because as a QQ'er you have been put in your place.



     

    Excuse me I do not play the lame game Darkfall.    So how is it I am QQing?

  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    awesome post OP u win teh forums today

    BestSigEver :P
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  • SimielSimiel Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by parrotpholk


     Every post the OP makes is to stir up shit and do nothing. He does it well but then monkeys throw shit well to so guess they have that in common.

     

    He's a piece of trash, like his name suggests.

    Saddest thing is that he thinks he's clever...

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052
    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by Teala


    This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.

     

    No it's not.  You're just pissed because as a QQ'er you have been put in your place.



     

    Excuse me I do not play the lame game Darkfall.    So how is it I am QQing?

     

    LOL.  I feel sorry for you since you are missing out of the best game on the market.

  • SimielSimiel Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by Teala


    This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.

     

    No it's not.  You're just pissed because as a QQ'er you have been put in your place.



     

    Excuse me I do not play the lame game Darkfall.    So how is it I am QQing?

     

    LOL.  I feel sorry for you since you are missing out of the best game on the market.

     

    Is it not true that you and the likes of you are playing the game as well? If so then I'm sure I'm not missing much, nor will Teala.

    gg.

  • drago_pldrago_pl Member Posts: 384


    Originally posted by Simiel
    Originally posted by Ruyn
    Originally posted by Teala
    Originally posted by Ruyn
    Originally posted by Teala This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.
     
    No it's not.  You're just pissed because as a QQ'er you have been put in your place.

     
    Excuse me I do not play the lame game Darkfall.    So how is it I am QQing?



     
    LOL.  I feel sorry for you since you are missing out of the best game on the market.


     
    Is it not true that you and the likes of you are playing the game as well? If so then I'm sure I'm not missing much, nor will Teala.
    gg.

    What do you mean? We should *shrug*, *rolls eyes* and cybering to be considered good community? Go away and stay away from Darkfall forums.

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052
    Originally posted by Simiel

    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by Teala

    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by Teala


    This is a pure troll post about QQer's...and you're just as bad as the QQer's.

     

    No it's not.  You're just pissed because as a QQ'er you have been put in your place.



     

    Excuse me I do not play the lame game Darkfall.    So how is it I am QQing?

     

    LOL.  I feel sorry for you since you are missing out of the best game on the market.

     

    Is it not true that you and the likes of you are playing the game as well? If so then I'm sure I'm not missing much, nor will Teala.

    gg.

    I've been nothing but helpful to the community.  You and Teala are just trolls who looks for every excuse to trash this game.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    LOL did OP hit a nerve ?

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    $OE - eternal enemy of online gaming
    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

    "There was suppression of speech and all kinds of things between disturbing and fascistic." Raph Koster (parted $OE)

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