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Accurate potrayal of Mortal Online PVP -

DaysGoneByDaysGoneBy Member Posts: 40

I like this persons videos because they just seem more honest and less fanboyish then all the rest shown

 

Anyways here is a good idea of what PvP looks like now in Mortal Online and as he says it is awkward, slow, and unresponsive

www.youtube.com/watch

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  • TresilianTresilian Member UncommonPosts: 11

    What you are seeing here is two freshly made characters with 0 skills and a newbie starter axe(for harvesting) in their hands. Nothing to see in this troll thread/video, move along.

  • colutrcolutr Member Posts: 333

    Are you serious?

    This isn't pvp it's 2 noobs with all starter gear and harvesting tools.

    Troll more?

  • LiquidWolfLiquidWolf Member CommonPosts: 516

    Shift for sprint

    Alt+click for lunge

    Double tap left/right to dodge...

    The video is an excellent example of their current skill, that is for sure :)

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052

    Is this a current video, because nothing looks improved over the course of the beta?  It looks just awful.

  • LiquidWolfLiquidWolf Member CommonPosts: 516
    Originally posted by Ruyn


    Is this a current video, because nothing looks improved over the course of the beta?  It looks just awful.

     

    Did you read the title of the video?

    January 2010.

    Or... were you just trying to say you think it looks awful?

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by colutr


    Are you serious?
    This isn't pvp it's 2 noobs with all starter gear and harvesting tools.
    Troll more?

     

    Honestly though, if you see the "higher level" PvP videos where people have maxxed out skills and the like, the PvP isn't much different anyway. Unless you have a link to a video that shows some amazing combat that nobody's ever seen? LOL

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I find it horrible, but is is acctually what real combat looks like! Faster of course, but there is not much more to it. Keeping distance, trying to read the opponent and see when is a good to TRY and make something. Failure start all over again.....damn the other person is not doing as you want and so on : )

    I have competed in stick fighting tounaments all over EU for the last five years, thats why i have a opinion about it. Otherwise i would not have one.

  • LiquidWolfLiquidWolf Member CommonPosts: 516
    Originally posted by HerculesSAS

    Originally posted by colutr


    Are you serious?
    This isn't pvp it's 2 noobs with all starter gear and harvesting tools.
    Troll more?

     

    Honestly though, if you see the "higher level" PvP videos where people have maxxed out skills and the like, the PvP isn't much different anyway. Unless you have a link to a video that shows some amazing combat that nobody's ever seen? LOL

     

    Oh hey HerculesSAS! I had almost forgotten about you... nice of you to remind me.

    Character wipe recently, so any changes or improvements in "high level" characters probably won't be around for a bit.

    But you probably knew that from the MO forums...

    Tell me, have you seen the posts about the crafting stations like the windmills, or the jungle that got introduced? Or about the skill books that can be purchased to train up things like Anatomy and survival over a few hours?

    I was also impressed that I could still increase mining/combat skills while learning the book skill.

    What do you like about it?

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by HerculesSAS

    Originally posted by colutr


    Are you serious?
    This isn't pvp it's 2 noobs with all starter gear and harvesting tools.
    Troll more?

     

    Honestly though, if you see the "higher level" PvP videos where people have maxxed out skills and the like, the PvP isn't much different anyway. Unless you have a link to a video that shows some amazing combat that nobody's ever seen? LOL

     

    Oh hey HerculesSAS! I had almost forgotten about you... nice of you to remind me.

    Character wipe recently, so any changes or improvements in "high level" characters probably won't be around for a bit.

    But you probably knew that from the MO forums...

    Tell me, have you seen the posts about the crafting stations like the windmills, or the jungle that got introduced? Or about the skill books that can be purchased to train up things like Anatomy and survival over a few hours?

    I was also impressed that I could still increase mining/combat skills while learning the book skill.

    What do you like about it?

     

    The new patch didn't bring a lot to the table in terms of combat, so the dynamics of combat changing is irrelevant. You show me a combat video from a month or so ago (maxxed skills) or from today, and it would be the same exact mode and method of combat. Which is to say, horrible, awkward, one dimensional, and slow.

    The skill books and workbenches are really nice, kind of irrelevant and won't keep the game afloat. Nobody's going to craft anything if the PvP there sucks, and if nobody sticks around it's going to be hard to keep a game going on crafting alone.

  • RuynRuyn Member Posts: 1,052
    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Ruyn


    Is this a current video, because nothing looks improved over the course of the beta?  It looks just awful.

     

    Did you read the title of the video?

    January 2010.

    Or... were you just trying to say you think it looks awful?

     

    No it was an honest question.  I wasn't trusting the video poster so I was asking people who are currently playing if this is the games current state.  I'm a beta block A person who has given up and am just waiting for release.  From the video it looks like nothing has improved since July.

  • Slapshot1188Slapshot1188 Member LegendaryPosts: 17,686
    Originally posted by Ruyn


     
    No it was an honest question.  I wasn't trusting the video poster so I was asking people who are currently playing if this is the games current state.  I'm a beta block A person who has given up and am just waiting for release.  From the video it looks like nothing has improved since July.



     

    Well.. if nothing else i think they fixed "Sausage Lake"

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  • colutrcolutr Member Posts: 333
    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Ruyn


    Is this a current video, because nothing looks improved over the course of the beta?  It looks just awful.

     

    Did you read the title of the video?

    January 2010.

    Or... were you just trying to say you think it looks awful?

     

    No it was an honest question.  I wasn't trusting the video poster so I was asking people who are currently playing if this is the games current state.  I'm a beta block A person who has given up and am just waiting for release.  From the video it looks like nothing has improved since July.

     

    No matter how much they improve the game, using starter gear harvestign tools and no skills is not going to show the fullness of the combat in any game. It's like judging pvp in wow based on a lv 1 warrior vs warrior using the gear they got at charater creation.

    Then if you look at where they were at, literally a 10 second walk from where you spawn at for the first time. So he just created a character and attacked the first person passing by and says that's how pvp is.

    Another example of people making biased videos

     

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by colutr

    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Ruyn


    Is this a current video, because nothing looks improved over the course of the beta?  It looks just awful.

     

    Did you read the title of the video?

    January 2010.

    Or... were you just trying to say you think it looks awful?

     

    No it was an honest question.  I wasn't trusting the video poster so I was asking people who are currently playing if this is the games current state.  I'm a beta block A person who has given up and am just waiting for release.  From the video it looks like nothing has improved since July.

     

    No matter how much they improve the game, using starter gear harvestign tools and no skills is not going to show the fullness of the combat in any game. It's like judging pvp in wow based on a lv 1 warrior vs warrior using the gear they got at charater creation.

    Then if you look at where they were at, literally a 10 second walk from where you spawn at for the first time. So he just created a character and attacked the first person passing by and says that's how pvp is.

    Another example of people making biased videos

     

     

    Again, show us a video of "good" combat. We all know it hasn't changed at all since basically the beginning. A few tweaks in swing speed and stuff, but the base combat is all the same.

     

    Show us the 'skill' that is beyond what the OP posted. It is the same thing, just faster. Oh, and people run away a lot too. It's currently less deep than Darkfall, and that's hard to do.

  • KoisadKoisad Member Posts: 61

    i love how topic says Accurate portrayal, if thats not biased i don't know what is.

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by Koisad


    i love how topic says Accurate portrayal, if thats not biased i don't know what is.

     

    Again, show us something "accurate" then. Since the combat system has been the same basically for months, link us a video.

  • Tobias3Tobias3 Member Posts: 81
    Originally posted by Tresilian


    What you are seeing here is two freshly made characters with 0 skills and a newbie starter axe(for harvesting) in their hands. Nothing to see in this troll thread/video, move along.

    Seems pretty accurate to me, this is the reason I stopped playing. Combat is beyond broken, and horribly laggy and unresponsive. Boohoo, level 1 characters. Shouldn't the game be FUN from the start? 

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by Tobias3

    Originally posted by Tresilian


    What you are seeing here is two freshly made characters with 0 skills and a newbie starter axe(for harvesting) in their hands. Nothing to see in this troll thread/video, move along.

    Seems pretty accurate to me, this is the reason I stopped playing. Combat is beyond broken, and horribly laggy and unresponsive. Boohoo, level 1 characters. Shouldn't the game be FUN from the start? 

     

    The unfortunate thing is that he's making an assertion (and an untruthful one) that combat is somehow vastly different if your skills were maxxed out.

     

    It's the same basic concept, just using 2 handed swords and faster swinging.

  • jaspr180jaspr180 Member Posts: 96

     Hercules,

    Just curious here.   I know your game account was banned quite some time ago.    Did you purchase another account or are you just talking all your information from videos and talk?

  • nate1980nate1980 Member UncommonPosts: 2,074

    The two characters look like they were just created, thus having low skills. I would imagine they are slow because they are unskilled and that they'll get noticeably faster as they skill up. If that's the case, then I like the combat system as I see it. It's much better than some fast paced FPS styled PvP system.

  • colutrcolutr Member Posts: 333
    Originally posted by HerculesSAS

    Originally posted by colutr

    Originally posted by Ruyn

    Originally posted by LiquidWolf

    Originally posted by Ruyn


    Is this a current video, because nothing looks improved over the course of the beta?  It looks just awful.

     

    Did you read the title of the video?

    January 2010.

    Or... were you just trying to say you think it looks awful?

     

    No it was an honest question.  I wasn't trusting the video poster so I was asking people who are currently playing if this is the games current state.  I'm a beta block A person who has given up and am just waiting for release.  From the video it looks like nothing has improved since July.

     

    No matter how much they improve the game, using starter gear harvestign tools and no skills is not going to show the fullness of the combat in any game. It's like judging pvp in wow based on a lv 1 warrior vs warrior using the gear they got at charater creation.

    Then if you look at where they were at, literally a 10 second walk from where you spawn at for the first time. So he just created a character and attacked the first person passing by and says that's how pvp is.

    Another example of people making biased videos

     

     

    Again, show us a video of "good" combat. We all know it hasn't changed at all since basically the beginning. A few tweaks in swing speed and stuff, but the base combat is all the same.

     

    Show us the 'skill' that is beyond what the OP posted. It is the same thing, just faster. Oh, and people run away a lot too. It's currently less deep than Darkfall, and that's hard to do.

     

    Good combat happens when it happens, i don't run around in beta with fraps constantly playing and when pvp occurs my main priority isn't to capture it for the naysayers.

  • ZoulzZoulz Member Posts: 477
    It's like judging pvp in wow based on a lv 1 warrior vs warrior using the gear they got at charater creation. 

    Which in my opinion would be x10 more fun than what this looks like. At least more fast paced.

  • adralaadrala Member Posts: 148
    Originally posted by HerculesSAS

    Originally posted by Tobias3

    Originally posted by Tresilian


    What you are seeing here is two freshly made characters with 0 skills and a newbie starter axe(for harvesting) in their hands. Nothing to see in this troll thread/video, move along.

    Seems pretty accurate to me, this is the reason I stopped playing. Combat is beyond broken, and horribly laggy and unresponsive. Boohoo, level 1 characters. Shouldn't the game be FUN from the start? 

     

    The unfortunate thing is that he's making an assertion (and an untruthful one) that combat is somehow vastly different if your skills were maxxed out.

     

    It's the same basic concept, just using 2 handed swords and faster swinging.

    Here is a video of  "advanced" combat during old patch.

    I agree it looks boring but when its YOU that is fighting I swear that the adrenaline rush is enormous and its really entertaining.

     

    Currently they are balancing the weaponsa nd introduced some new weapon pats for even more weapon designs.

    Also a lot of new combat-related skills got in the previous patch.

     

     

  • marmotomarmoto Member CommonPosts: 101
    Originally posted by jaspr180


     Hercules,
    Just curious here.   I know your game account was banned quite some time ago.    Did you purchase another account or are you just talking all your information from videos and talk?

     

    in other posts he said he has guildies that still play de game... 

  • HerculesSASHerculesSAS Member Posts: 1,272
    Originally posted by marmoto

    Originally posted by jaspr180


     Hercules,
    Just curious here.   I know your game account was banned quite some time ago.    Did you purchase another account or are you just talking all your information from videos and talk?

     

    in other posts he said he has guildies that still play de game... 

     

    They don't play, but they have accounts.

  • marmotomarmoto Member CommonPosts: 101
    Originally posted by HerculesSAS

    Originally posted by marmoto

    Originally posted by jaspr180


     Hercules,
    Just curious here.   I know your game account was banned quite some time ago.    Did you purchase another account or are you just talking all your information from videos and talk?

     

    in other posts he said he has guildies that still play de game... 

     

    They don't play, but they have accounts.

    And you use them to come to play a game you hate?

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