I'm loving every minute of it. Have been since Alpha.
Oh, forgot to reply on this one:
-Recons are way over powered, assault is far too weak (unless they have two medics on them), Robotics gets ridiculously overpowered when they get the rocket turrets.
Did I mention that Recons are over powered ? LOL, the game is a melee fest where Assault class gets beat to death in 2 seconds by any recon... It's really a bizarro sword simulator most of the time.-
/whine. xD. I'm an assault. I eat Recons for breakfast.
I just got my refund from steam :P since the game is not out yet u can get your refund :D
Then we are two !
btw forgot to say that this game or what ever it is are a failure.....
Two cancelled already !!! ... this game or whatever it is must be failure then ...
Your funny :P tchek steam forums, and just write humm global agenda?? and you will be surprised. Btw those are only the people that SAID they canceled most people dont even bother to post that on forums.
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Originally posted by Lienhart Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
^ this.
These are the MMORPG forums, so I expect people to be confused about Global Agenda, wondering why their character isn't auto-attacking and such. Hell, forget the people who play click-to-move F2P games... they'll be like fish to the sharks in GA.
I still don't have the game, and am on holidays for a few more days yet, but I think it'll probably be a good purchase for when I get back home on my steam account.
And hell, if I don't like it within the next week or so, I'll probs get it refunded.
I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Probably because there was NEVER a lack of CS maps. You see all of the maps you listed were player made maps as far as I remember. Heck CS itself was a mod off HL.
Here is a nice list for you:
# cs_assault
# cs_siege
# cs_estate
# cs_militia
# cs_office
# cs_backalley
# cs_compound
# cs_italy
# cs_havana
# cs_747
# de_dust
# de_dust2
# de_nuke
# de_aztec
# de_port
# de_prodigy
# de_cbble
# de_train
# de_chateau
# de_vegas
# de_piranesi
# de_inferno
# de_vertigo
# de_survivor
# de_storm
# de_torn
# de_tides
Well over 16 maps to memorize and those are just the "official" maps. There were hundreds more, two that I remember being Iceworld and Ratz. You may not have played them but they were there.
Also memorizing maps is almost exactly the reason why there should be a bunch more maps. You see SCRUBS generally think they have skill when they find a corner to hide in or find a small hole to shoot through. They need that advantage that be able to get kills. With a large variety of maps it keeps players from finding those little holes, map glitches, etc and using/exploiting them as often as possible.
More maps also provides variety. De_dust and Dust 2 were good but got boring after playing them over and over on the 24/7 servers.
Now to the point. A HUGE portion of the maps in CS were player made and FREE. Mods were player made and FREE. So whats the point of buying an "mmo" and paying monthly when most FPS communities will provide the same service and better for FREE. What they should do is open up map making to the players so they can at least create maps and submit them for approval.
P.S. There is a reason you only played 3 maps. I'll let you take a guess at the reason, but it wasn't because the other maps sucked.
IF AVA is not actual 60 v 60 on nice sprawling maps and is actually like I have heard it is with 6 x 10 v 10 happening to facilitate your strike force then its just utter fail and nothing more than a distinctly average FPS with some very poor MMO bits tacked on.
IF AVA is not actual 60 v 60 on nice sprawling maps and is actually like I have heard it is with 6 x 10 v 10 happening to facilitate your strike force then its just utter fail and nothing more than a distinctly average FPS with some very poor MMO bits tacked on.
The question is: Is it still fail if people really enjoy it?
Setting aside stats, facts, labels, have/have not checklists, etc for a moment, from a qualitative perspective I really like it.
This game really wasn't what I'd hoped for or expected, yet I still have enormous fun playing it. Surely that's the main thing.
Aryas
Playing: Ableton Live 8 ~ ragequitcancelsubdeletegamesmashcomputerkillself ~
1. No content will be added, except for AvA upon release. "Uh, you are acting like the beta has every single thing that the main game has. That is almost never true." That is actually almost always true. Asheron's Call, Warhammer Online, Anarchy Online, Asheron's Call 2, Age of Conan, etc. All with full content in beta. Besides for A v A, this is it. This has also been confirmed. 2. You CAN cancel your preorder with Steam if you want. 3. It is not an impatient and loud minority. On the beta forums there was a 12 page thread that was filled up in 2 days of creating a sticky for complaints. It was locked and now there is a new suggestions thread replacement which is already 7 pages long. Then they finally made a thread about how some of these complaints will be fixed immediately. 4. The real loud minority are the super fans that would attack anyone who posted a criticism. To combat this, HIrez has had to create stickied threads with threats of deletion of posts made as a "defense" of the suggestions by the super fans. 5. The 60v 60 is not exactly true. In A v A there will be 60 v 60 SPLIT UP into teams of 10v 10. 6. The game is not 50 megs. Try 6 gigs. 7. The "it's beta!" excuse has been used in EVERY beta and is ALWAYS wrong. What you see 2 weeks before release is what you got(exception of a v a). PERIOD. There will be no major overhauls or content added. A minor change here and there? Sure. If you have any presence on the forums, you would know this. 8. "this game has the best pvp balance ive ever seen, hell even better than tf2. they worked really hard at it." Bull. 20 pages of complaints on balance in 2 days says otherwise. Additionally, they only have 4 cookie cutter classes here compared to 9 in TF2. Stop the BS.
About balance, you say that TF2 has 9 classes, but you can merge Spy, Scout and Sniper into Recon. Soldier, Demoman, Heavy and maybe Pyro into Assault, Medic is Medic, Engin is Robotics.
Not only that, but each weapon and device, has 4 different levels, so all of them must be balanced, plus the skill tree which make huge differences in how your character plays.
And nooone's forcing you to pay 12$/month to play, you just pay it if you want AvA and high end content, which is the core of todays MMO. WoW has only 4 scenarios, WAR has more, but some of them are horrible.
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Well...no..seeing as the game is sub free outside of the conquest stuff, of which all the pvp maps fall arent a part.
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Well...no..seeing as the game is sub free outside of the conquest stuff, of which all the pvp maps fall arent a part.
True, however they said that being able to play 10 v 10 with your friends will require a sub.. otherwise you will be stuck playing with only 3 of your friends.
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Throwing out insults make you look like a low life.
As for the maps, have yoi played them? They are carbon copies of each other. The 4 maps are all the same generic design. There is nothing to memorize... They all have a central base with 2 wings. There is nothing unique about the maps.
IF AVA is not actual 60 v 60 on nice sprawling maps and is actually like I have heard it is with 6 x 10 v 10 happening to facilitate your strike force then its just utter fail and nothing more than a distinctly average FPS with some very poor MMO bits tacked on.
The question is: Is it still fail if people really enjoy it?
Setting aside stats, facts, labels, have/have not checklists, etc for a moment, from a qualitative perspective I really like it.
This game really wasn't what I'd hoped for or expected, yet I still have enormous fun playing it. Surely that's the main thing.
Aryas
Enjoyment is opinion and completely relative. Why pay a monthly fee for non worthy content? Did you pay for Hellgate? Do you see Guild Wars' non fees?
You may enjoy the same generic maps over and over with only 3 of your friends, etc... but the shininess will very likely wear off.
A game can be as simple as you can make it, yes you can say that all maps are the same because they are all in a urban area...
Meh all CS maps are the same, they either have 2 bomb setup locations or somewhere to get the sciencists and an extraction point.. See it doesn't make sense??
QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ QQ. If you don't like the game then don't fucking play it.One of the best games I've played in a long time.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Throwing out insults make you look like a low life.
As for the maps, have yoi played them? They are carbon copies of each other. The 4 maps are all the same generic design. There is nothing to memorize... They all have a central base with 2 wings. There is nothing unique about the maps.
ROFL - someone played the FIRST PVP mission and thinks they are an expert.
Question.... have you a) Gotten past lvl 10 and b) Played ANYTHING else apart from the first PVP mission
If the answer is "yes" to either - then don't make yourself look stupid by posting "every map is the same with the same sectors"...
BTW - a very high majority of the population LIKES the game.... so I guess we're just 20k worth of retards eh??? OR....... (Im sure you can be clever and fill in the rest)
Theres over 20 maps, not 5. The 5 youre talking about are the capture point maps for levels 1-10. If you notice the Missions computer, there are 5 different pvp modes:payload, capture point, demolition, breach and scramble. Each of these has multiple map types. As you level up you unlock new pvp modes, so by the time youre 30-40, you have a choice of 20+ maps to pvp on and 20 or so PVE maps, and this is without counting the conquest maps if youre a subscriber. Also theres double agent mode which is a mix of pvp and pve, not sure how many maps that has though.
The initial PVE maps for under level 10 are supposed to be ridiculously easy, thats why theyre called low security. Theyre pretty much just a tutorial for you to get some crafting mats and cash before you head onto the tougher pve maps and pvp.
edit: as for stat changes, you can get them its just that they arent linked to armor. You have a panel in your agency profile called upgrades, which gives you numerous armor slots to put implants in. I cant remember how many you get in total, but they fit onto everything. I think its about 15 slots? Ill have to check. Your implants add greater health percentages and secondary stats like extra damage or extra resist to slows and fire. You can buy them or craft them (latest patch has added a whole bunch of new, fixed stat recipes for pve). Armor sets are just for looks but you can dye them using primary and secondary colours, plus theres a lot of them for launch. In beta there was also a novelty vendor who sold all kinds of different helms, skulls, halos, demon heads etc. Ive not seen any jumppack upgrades or mods but I believe theyre in game for higher levels.
Theres over 20 maps, not 5. The 5 youre talking about are the capture point maps for levels 1-10. If you notice the Missions computer, there are 5 different pvp modes:payload, capture point, demolition, breach and scramble. Each of these has multiple map types. As you level up you unlock new pvp modes, so by the time youre 30-40, you have a choice of 20+ maps to pvp on and 20 or so PVE maps, and this is without counting the conquest maps if youre a subscriber. Also theres double agent mode which is a mix of pvp and pve, not sure how many maps that has though. The initial PVE maps for under level 10 are supposed to be ridiculously easy, thats why theyre called low security. Theyre pretty much just a tutorial for you to get some crafting mats and cash before you head onto the tougher pve maps and pvp.
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Then we are two !
btw forgot to say that this game or what ever it is are a failure.....
Alias Warin
Then we are two !
btw forgot to say that this game or what ever it is are a failure.....
Two cancelled already !!! ... this game or whatever it is must be failure then ...
I'm loving every minute of it. Have been since Alpha.
Oh, forgot to reply on this one:
-Recons are way over powered, assault is far too weak (unless they have two medics on them), Robotics gets ridiculously overpowered when they get the rocket turrets.
Did I mention that Recons are over powered ? LOL, the game is a melee fest where Assault class gets beat to death in 2 seconds by any recon... It's really a bizarro sword simulator most of the time.-
/whine. xD. I'm an assault. I eat Recons for breakfast.
this game has a hype?
Then we are two !
btw forgot to say that this game or what ever it is are a failure.....
Two cancelled already !!! ... this game or whatever it is must be failure then ...
Your funny :P tchek steam forums, and just write humm global agenda?? and you will be surprised. Btw those are only the people that SAID they canceled most people dont even bother to post that on forums.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
^ this.
These are the MMORPG forums, so I expect people to be confused about Global Agenda, wondering why their character isn't auto-attacking and such. Hell, forget the people who play click-to-move F2P games... they'll be like fish to the sharks in GA.
I still don't have the game, and am on holidays for a few more days yet, but I think it'll probably be a good purchase for when I get back home on my steam account.
And hell, if I don't like it within the next week or so, I'll probs get it refunded.
I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.
You all need to learn to spell.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Probably because there was NEVER a lack of CS maps. You see all of the maps you listed were player made maps as far as I remember. Heck CS itself was a mod off HL.
Here is a nice list for you:
# cs_assault
# cs_siege
# cs_estate
# cs_militia
# cs_office
# cs_backalley
# cs_compound
# cs_italy
# cs_havana
# cs_747
# de_dust
# de_dust2
# de_nuke
# de_aztec
# de_port
# de_prodigy
# de_cbble
# de_train
# de_chateau
# de_vegas
# de_piranesi
# de_inferno
# de_vertigo
# de_survivor
# de_storm
# de_torn
# de_tides
Well over 16 maps to memorize and those are just the "official" maps. There were hundreds more, two that I remember being Iceworld and Ratz. You may not have played them but they were there.
Also memorizing maps is almost exactly the reason why there should be a bunch more maps. You see SCRUBS generally think they have skill when they find a corner to hide in or find a small hole to shoot through. They need that advantage that be able to get kills. With a large variety of maps it keeps players from finding those little holes, map glitches, etc and using/exploiting them as often as possible.
More maps also provides variety. De_dust and Dust 2 were good but got boring after playing them over and over on the 24/7 servers.
Now to the point. A HUGE portion of the maps in CS were player made and FREE. Mods were player made and FREE. So whats the point of buying an "mmo" and paying monthly when most FPS communities will provide the same service and better for FREE. What they should do is open up map making to the players so they can at least create maps and submit them for approval.
P.S. There is a reason you only played 3 maps. I'll let you take a guess at the reason, but it wasn't because the other maps sucked.
IF AVA is not actual 60 v 60 on nice sprawling maps and is actually like I have heard it is with 6 x 10 v 10 happening to facilitate your strike force then its just utter fail and nothing more than a distinctly average FPS with some very poor MMO bits tacked on.
The question is: Is it still fail if people really enjoy it?
Setting aside stats, facts, labels, have/have not checklists, etc for a moment, from a qualitative perspective I really like it.
This game really wasn't what I'd hoped for or expected, yet I still have enormous fun playing it. Surely that's the main thing.
Aryas
Playing: Ableton Live 8
~ ragequitcancelsubdeletegamesmashcomputerkillself ~
New content for the upcoming 6 months: http://forum.globalagendagame.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=139&t=10569
About balance, you say that TF2 has 9 classes, but you can merge Spy, Scout and Sniper into Recon. Soldier, Demoman, Heavy and maybe Pyro into Assault, Medic is Medic, Engin is Robotics.
Not only that, but each weapon and device, has 4 different levels, so all of them must be balanced, plus the skill tree which make huge differences in how your character plays.
And nooone's forcing you to pay 12$/month to play, you just pay it if you want AvA and high end content, which is the core of todays MMO. WoW has only 4 scenarios, WAR has more, but some of them are horrible.
Meh ... potatoes tomatoes ....
This game is a sh*tload of FUN... and that's the only thing i look for in a game ....
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Well...no..seeing as the game is sub free outside of the conquest stuff, of which all the pvp maps fall arent a part.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Well...no..seeing as the game is sub free outside of the conquest stuff, of which all the pvp maps fall arent a part.
True, however they said that being able to play 10 v 10 with your friends will require a sub.. otherwise you will be stuck playing with only 3 of your friends.
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Throwing out insults make you look like a low life.
As for the maps, have yoi played them? They are carbon copies of each other. The 4 maps are all the same generic design. There is nothing to memorize... They all have a central base with 2 wings. There is nothing unique about the maps.
The question is: Is it still fail if people really enjoy it?
Setting aside stats, facts, labels, have/have not checklists, etc for a moment, from a qualitative perspective I really like it.
This game really wasn't what I'd hoped for or expected, yet I still have enormous fun playing it. Surely that's the main thing.
Aryas
Enjoyment is opinion and completely relative. Why pay a monthly fee for non worthy content? Did you pay for Hellgate? Do you see Guild Wars' non fees?
You may enjoy the same generic maps over and over with only 3 of your friends, etc... but the shininess will very likely wear off.
Maybe turret locations? Sniper locations? Roof/Window entrances? Beacon locations? Distance from spawn point?
A game can be as simple as you can make it, yes you can say that all maps are the same because they are all in a urban area...
Meh all CS maps are the same, they either have 2 bomb setup locations or somewhere to get the sciencists and an extraction point.. See it doesn't make sense??
This is the perfect example of what is rampant on the beta forums. Hi Rez had to make a protected thread for people to post complaints without being attacked by rapid lovers and it is now over 22 pages long in 3 days.
Tell me... What does it mean to spend years and millions of dollars on an "mmo" and open it up to beta without even a friends list? Content= 4 generic, cookie cutter maps?
lol I've played more then 4 maps. So that shows that you haven't even played the game. Who cares about a friends list that's something that can be added later. I don't have a problem with anyone giving there input to better the game but all i see is a bunch of bullshit complaints. When you have good points to make then make then. If you just want to flame about the game because you don't like it then shut the fuck up and go do better.
Yes the game needs more content and it will in do time. The core of the game, pvp is spot on.
4 maps per mode. All with the same design(especially for the first pvp maps). This is what they want to charge 13 a month for?
Did any of you retards ever play a FPS game? I don't remember the last time someone bitched about how little maps CS1.6 had. Hell, the only thing I ever played was de_dust2, de_dust and occasionally cs_italy.
God, the ignorance of scrub ass players. You REALLY want to memorize more than 16 maps? Maybe you need to find another game than because CLEARLY competitive play is NOT for you (or you're one of those morons that cause a team to lose).
Throwing out insults make you look like a low life.
As for the maps, have yoi played them? They are carbon copies of each other. The 4 maps are all the same generic design. There is nothing to memorize... They all have a central base with 2 wings. There is nothing unique about the maps.
ROFL - someone played the FIRST PVP mission and thinks they are an expert.
Question.... have you a) Gotten past lvl 10 and b) Played ANYTHING else apart from the first PVP mission
If the answer is "yes" to either - then don't make yourself look stupid by posting "every map is the same with the same sectors"...
BTW - a very high majority of the population LIKES the game.... so I guess we're just 20k worth of retards eh??? OR....... (Im sure you can be clever and fill in the rest)
Theres over 20 maps, not 5. The 5 youre talking about are the capture point maps for levels 1-10. If you notice the Missions computer, there are 5 different pvp modes:payload, capture point, demolition, breach and scramble. Each of these has multiple map types. As you level up you unlock new pvp modes, so by the time youre 30-40, you have a choice of 20+ maps to pvp on and 20 or so PVE maps, and this is without counting the conquest maps if youre a subscriber. Also theres double agent mode which is a mix of pvp and pve, not sure how many maps that has though.
The initial PVE maps for under level 10 are supposed to be ridiculously easy, thats why theyre called low security. Theyre pretty much just a tutorial for you to get some crafting mats and cash before you head onto the tougher pve maps and pvp.
edit: as for stat changes, you can get them its just that they arent linked to armor. You have a panel in your agency profile called upgrades, which gives you numerous armor slots to put implants in. I cant remember how many you get in total, but they fit onto everything. I think its about 15 slots? Ill have to check. Your implants add greater health percentages and secondary stats like extra damage or extra resist to slows and fire. You can buy them or craft them (latest patch has added a whole bunch of new, fixed stat recipes for pve). Armor sets are just for looks but you can dye them using primary and secondary colours, plus theres a lot of them for launch. In beta there was also a novelty vendor who sold all kinds of different helms, skulls, halos, demon heads etc. Ive not seen any jumppack upgrades or mods but I believe theyre in game for higher levels.
Woot! Someone whos played it past level 10 (yay)
They are saying its free to play monthly... IE: No monthy sub
its free to play part of the game
And that part happens to be the most fun i've had in ages.
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I enjoyed reading all of that.
Seriously, though, in full response to the thread title, no, you're probably not I'm I the only one, there are probably many people.
There are probably people with no previous FPS experience that are bummed, too.
I am playing EVE and it's alright... level V skills are a bit much.
You all need to learn to spell.
This thread is going no where fast.
Locked.