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What do you expect to be added at launch?
nightbird305
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So far I'm reading a few "wait till the game is launched" comments when people express their opinions on this game. Well my question to you is, what exactly do you except there to be added at launch that will make the game better?
I know that they've limited a lot of areas in the game, but I don't have a problem with the current content amount, but rather the type of content that's provided. To put it simply, I'm still playing the game, but the content is not blowing me away, which is what's making me consider cancelling my preorder.
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Nothing, those who cry 'beta' and expect change in 2 weeks time are naiive or ignorant, possibly both. This has been a recurring performance before every mmo launch for the last 5 years or so and nothing ever changes. And Cryptic, of all devs. are not going to be the exception.
There is no magical patch, the devs are not 'hiding' any content for us, (obviously apart from the stuff not available now) theres no 'debugger' running in the background thats slowing the game down etc. In fact, its worse this time, there is so much untested content it makes the mmo gods cry, better brace ourselves for a rough ride, baptism by flame perhaps, lets hope so.
Most we can hope for is bug fixes, but as far as improvement goes, forget it.
- Shijeer
Well said, you pretty much nailed my POV.
Alot of bug fixes, typical of every MMO at launch.
Klingon content has been added, and there will be more at launch. All the higher tier missions and eps will be turned on with more being added. The exploration will be turned on.
Later the genesis system will be up, that will revolutionize the MMO industry. Cant wait to see that.
O man, Later?! Really?!....
People need to judge an MMO on its current released state, and stop saying "It will get better, eventually!"
Seriously I mean theres game that have systems that arent fully realized, but STO is missing major systems!
Well, I would like to speak now.
I agree.
I'm not going to fight you - its true. Open Betas are usually a 99% completed game, this is not a 'preview event' no, its open Beta. Yea, I'm still playing it and will probably continue to due so OR at the very least pick up my copy, shelf it for now, play it 3 months or 6 months later. (However I will most likely just play it on release.) There is no shame it getting a game that you are certain there will be improvements and features down the road (in 3 or 6 months). Very rare is the launch worth playing anyways - for the most, its the base of the game. Base of the iceburg.
What do I expect to see on Feb 2nd? (or at least the head start)
Nothing (much) more.
The most we will see is:
* More stabability
* A little less bugs
* More Klingon Content... if we're lucky
* High-level Content Online
* More zones Online
* More locked features (such as exploration) Online
(But not much more)
That's the posatives, the negatives on/after Feb 2nd?
A lot.
* Polluted forums - people crying: This isn't complete, this is too buggy, I hate this, there is no use of my bridge, I want to be the hero and be the next Kirk.
* Fan girls - they don't care about the game. They just want to create a Kirk or a Zachary Quinto Spock and put them in very compramising positions... oh and lots of Vulcans because 'ZQ is soooo hott! He's the best Spock ever!' ya know, that. (If anything we'll get Fan Girls playing simply because Zachary doe sthe voice of the EMH in the tutorial) (Expect to see a number of Jims, James, Kirk, Spocks, Vulcan Sci Officers to.)
* A horde of annoyances - We'll get a chunk of 'fans' who saw Star Trek (2009) and claim they are Trekkies, but if you make a reference to Voyager or Deep Space 9 they won't know what you are talking about.
* Then eventually Cryptic producing a large patch to correct a lot (which may or may not result in more polluted forums)
O man, Later?! Really?!....
People need to judge an MMO on its current released state, and stop saying "It will get better, eventually!"
Seriously I mean theres game that have systems that arent fully realized, but STO is missing major systems!
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Your mis-using the term "Horrible start" with "Incomplete".
WoW, EQ, EvE. They all were complete games, meaning the game seemed full, in EQ you had the vast world to explore, EVE you had the plethora of ships, WoW had the insane amount of quests.
STO is an instanced, linear, mockery of the series that millions have loved through the generations.
There is Personal Shields, Grenades, Violence is through the roof, and where is the diplomacy? The exploration? The Puzzles, the intrigue? Anything At all related to Star Trek would be nice.
This game is not only imcomplete as an MMO, but its horrifically incomplete compared to what makes a Star Trek MMO.
all of those mmo's you mentioned had flaws but they still offered insane amounts of content and diversity upon launch, something that STO will never have unless they overhaul the game engine and systems.
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O man, Later?! Really?!....
People need to judge an MMO on its current released state, and stop saying "It will get better, eventually!"
Seriously I mean theres game that have systems that arent fully realized, but STO is missing major systems!
If game companies listened to you, they would all be broke! .....hahahaha
As I said before, EVE, Anarchy Online, WoW and EQ all had horrible starts, I guess they should have quit according to you. Somehow I dont get the feeling you have much MMO exp other than WoW, so its pointless to even try...lol
Your mis-using the term "Horrible start" with "Incomplete".
WoW, EQ, EvE. They all were complete games, meaning the game seemed full, in EQ you had the vast world to explore, EVE you had the plethora of ships, WoW had the insane amount of quests.
STO is an instanced, linear, mockery of the series that millions have loved through the generations.
There is Personal Shields, Grenades, Violence is through the roof, and where is the diplomacy? The exploration? The Puzzles, the intrigue? Anything At all related to Star Trek would be nice.
This game is not only imcomplete as an MMO, but its horrifically incomplete compared to what makes a Star Trek MMO.
Also thanks for using the typical "O well this game was bad too" excuse. Which is also completely flawed, all of those mmo's you mentioned had flaws but they still offered insane amounts of content and diversity upon launch, something that STO will never have unless they overhaul the game engine and systems.
Why do you guys always have to be reminded that they turned the diplomacy and exploration off for OB? Seriously what is up with that!!!
EVE and EQ were sooooo broken at launch, if you want to ignore that, then fine, but it is a valid point, not an excuse.
www.startrekonline.com/node/899
state of the game. FIY.
How do you know it will revolutionize the MMO industry?
Unless you are a Cryptic Employee, you don't even know what the Genesis system is, what it looks like and how it works.
It wasn't in CB and it isn't active now either. No one knows what it is and how it will work. It's all speculation!
So please.
Yeah right. You don't believe Cryptic's BS, do you ?
They will revolutionize the industry, yet they can't even make a non-instanced MMO.
Name one single SUCCESSFULL MMO today, that is non-instanced, and you cant say Darkfail because its sinking fast. Even your beloved WoW is heavily instanced.
Dont tell me WoW has open PvP because its a joke, the only thing you see is ganking, but mostly its just one vast EMPTY WORLD, where you grind quests so that you can join your friends in INSTANCING PVP AND RAIDS.
Seriously.....
Dude, what's with the obsession for WoW ? Did one of the Blizzard dev kill your dog or something ? FYI I don't play it and I don't care about it.
You know what I meant. I was talking about MMOs where the whole word isn't instanced. In fact I have nothing against instances, as long as it's only for PvP zones or dungeons. You know, MMOs that have zones where anyone on the server can meet and socialise. But so far Cryptic's games are all about instances, everywhere. That's why I highly doubt they have a system that can "revolutionize" the genre.
But please, tell me about the Genesis system. What is it exactly ? And I'm curious to know why they didn't implement it earlier, if it's such a kickass system, so the majority of their potential customers can see it during OB.
Yeah right. You don't believe Cryptic's BS, do you ?
They will revolutionize the industry, yet they can't even make a non-instanced MMO.
Name one single SUCCESSFULL MMO today, that is non-instanced, and you cant say Darkfail because its sinking fast. Even your beloved WoW is heavily instanced.
Dont tell me WoW has open PvP because its a joke, the only thing you see is ganking, but mostly its just one vast EMPTY WORLD, where you grind quests so that you can join your friends in INSTANCING PVP AND RAIDS.
Seriously.....
Dude, what's with the obsession for WoW ? Did one of the Blizzard dev kill your dog or something ? FYI I don't play it and I don't care about it.
You know what I meant. I was talking about MMOs where the whole word isn't instanced. In fact I have nothing against instances, as long as it's only for PvP zones or dungeons. You know, MMOs that have zones where anyone on the server can meet and socialise. But so far Cryptic's games are all about instances, everywhere. That's why I highly doubt they have a system that can "revolutionize" the genre.
But please, tell me about the Genesis system. What is it exactly ? And I'm curious to know why they didn't implement it earlier, if it's such a kickass system, so the majority of their potential customers can see it during OB.
He cannot talk about the Genesis system, because he doesn't even know what it is himself either. No one has seen it yet. Not even the CB testers.
He is just the average fanboi desperately bashing everyone who has any critic on this game. Nothing more. Nothing less.
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anyone ever looked at how much wow changed over the years? even before the burning crusade there were some major changes. every talent tree has been completely redone twice over.
so no there won't be many content changes between now and launch. sure a lot of the endgame will be missing and probally everything over lvl 20 will be broken the first few weeks. but when i play wow now i'm not playing, and not paying for the game i bought several years ago. the same will apply to STO. major content patches will come out. if you don't think cryptic will keep working on this game then just don't buy it. i do think there is enough to entertain me for the first month so i'll be buying the game when it comes out. and after that i'll just wait and see how long i think it's worth my money.
Why do you guys always have to be reminded that they turned the diplomacy and exploration off for OB? Seriously what is up with that!!!
Because coming to a forum and ranting is easier when you don't have to worry about hard facts.
EVE and EQ were sooooo broken at launch, if you want to ignore that, then fine, but it is a valid point, not an excuse.
See above post.From what I heard, WOW had it's share of gripes before launch which just proves the old saying "You can't please everybody."
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How do you know it will revolutionize the MMO industry?
Unless you are a Cryptic Employee, you don't even know what the Genesis system is, what it looks like and how it works.
It wasn't in CB and it isn't active now either. No one knows what it is and how it will work. It's all speculation!
So please.
Something not in CB and not OB, so far, will not revolutionize anything. It's just a hoax to get people to think there is much more to the game that we currently are seeing. Trust me, if it was a major feature, then it would have been tested by now.
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Why do you guys always have to be reminded that they turned the diplomacy and exploration off for OB? Seriously what is up with that!!!
Because coming to a forum and ranting is easier when you don't have to worry about hard facts.
EVE and EQ were sooooo broken at launch, if you want to ignore that, then fine, but it is a valid point, not an excuse.
See above post.From what I heard, WOW had it's share of gripes before launch which just proves the old saying "You can't please everybody."
No one believes the "its not tunred on yet" excuse. That shit got old with MMO's 2 years ago.
How do you know it will revolutionize the MMO industry?
Unless you are a Cryptic Employee, you don't even know what the Genesis system is, what it looks like and how it works.
It wasn't in CB and it isn't active now either. No one knows what it is and how it will work. It's all speculation!
So please.
Something not in CB and not OB, so far, will not revolutionize anything. It's just a hoax to get people to think there is much more to the game that we currently are seeing. Trust me, if it was a major feature, then it would have been tested by now.
Exactly!
And seeing how repetitive, shallow and simple the current missions system is. A la City of Heroes. A la Champions Online.
I guess we can pretty much guess how this revolutionary exploration system is going to look like.
Cheers
For starters the rest of the game beyond level 16..... Maybe that's why you're reading what you are?
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
For starters the rest of the game beyond level 16..... Maybe that's why you're reading what you are?
Well no, the general feeling that people have expressed are towards the core gameplay and not at the amount of content (as I said in my original post).
Genesis is a random world maker, hardly "revolutionary".
Exploration, as I've understood, is just visiting random planets and doing one of the generic quests (scan objects, kill guys or talk to people).
Diplomacy? Sounds like a rep grind, or a bunch of chit chatting with NPCs, either way I'm not impressed.
So again, myself and many others have a problem with the core aspects of the game. If things like genesis, exploration and diplomacy is enough to keep you onboard, then good for you, have fun
. But I for one won't be sticking around if that's all they got to bring (in the near future anyway).
The MMO part..
Oh, and maybe the RPG part too..
I Have a feeling STO is going to end up doing this...
For starters the rest of the game beyond level 16..... Maybe that's why you're reading what you are?
Well no, the general feeling that people have expressed are towards the core gameplay and not at the amount of content (as I said in my original post).
Genesis is a random world maker, hardly "revolutionary".
Exploration, as I've understood, is just visiting random planets and doing one of the generic quests (scan objects, kill guys or talk to people).
Diplomacy? Sounds like a rep grind, or a bunch of chit chatting with NPCs, either way I'm not impressed.
So again, myself and many others have a problem with the core aspects of the game. If things like genesis, exploration and diplomacy is enough to keep you onboard, then good for you, have fun
. But I for one won't be sticking around if that's all they got to bring (in the near future anyway).
Couldn't agree more
Yes, some plot, player interaction, some actual role-playing and some depth would be nice. While they're at it, if they could come up with something different to blowing up a bazillion ships and killing dozens of NPCs and then selling what you loot to other players... not a feature of most episodes of Star Trek, is it?
For starters the rest of the game beyond level 16..... Maybe that's why you're reading what you are?
Well no, the general feeling that people have expressed are towards the core gameplay and not at the amount of content (as I said in my original post).
Genesis is a random world maker, hardly "revolutionary".
Exploration, as I've understood, is just visiting random planets and doing one of the generic quests (scan objects, kill guys or talk to people).
Diplomacy? Sounds like a rep grind, or a bunch of chit chatting with NPCs, either way I'm not impressed.
So again, myself and many others have a problem with the core aspects of the game. If things like genesis, exploration and diplomacy is enough to keep you onboard, then good for you, have fun
. But I for one won't be sticking around if that's all they got to bring (in the near future anyway).
Hmmmmm please tell what exactly you expected, expect and desire from this mmo?
For starters the rest of the game beyond level 16..... Maybe that's why you're reading what you are?
Well no, the general feeling that people have expressed are towards the core gameplay and not at the amount of content (as I said in my original post).
Genesis is a random world maker, hardly "revolutionary".
Exploration, as I've understood, is just visiting random planets and doing one of the generic quests (scan objects, kill guys or talk to people).
Diplomacy? Sounds like a rep grind, or a bunch of chit chatting with NPCs, either way I'm not impressed.
So again, myself and many others have a problem with the core aspects of the game. If things like genesis, exploration and diplomacy is enough to keep you onboard, then good for you, have fun
. But I for one won't be sticking around if that's all they got to bring (in the near future anyway).
Hmmmmm please tell what exactly you expected, expect and desire from this mmo?
I would like to know as well considering the things you listed are basically all the elements that the show itself was made up of.
For starters the rest of the game beyond level 16..... Maybe that's why you're reading what you are?
Well no, the general feeling that people have expressed are towards the core gameplay and not at the amount of content (as I said in my original post).
Genesis is a random world maker, hardly "revolutionary".
Exploration, as I've understood, is just visiting random planets and doing one of the generic quests (scan objects, kill guys or talk to people).
Diplomacy? Sounds like a rep grind, or a bunch of chit chatting with NPCs, either way I'm not impressed.
So again, myself and many others have a problem with the core aspects of the game. If things like genesis, exploration and diplomacy is enough to keep you onboard, then good for you, have fun
. But I for one won't be sticking around if that's all they got to bring (in the near future anyway).
Well, NO?
That would be a good reason people would say "wait until the game is launched", as only those in CB know what the rest of the game plays like. I really have no clue what the rest of what you wrote has to do with what I wrote.
Don't recall saying it's enough for me, did I? I digress...
I would think being able to progress past 16 would make the game "better" (I know, crazy idea). Which is what you asked.....
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
No one believes the "its not tunred on yet" excuse. That shit got old with MMO's 2 years ago.
That's your perogotive. If none of it exists on launch, you can say you were right. Until then, I'll give Cryptic the benefit of the doubt before I give it to someone whose posts are 99% negative.
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