Bravo! Great article. You have got me geeked up about STO. I think this game is going to be quite good. It isn't some snorefest ez mode game either. This game is tough! I hope it stays that way.
Maybe if I shout "Computer!!" at my mouse? LOL! That clip was awesome.
The game would have to inherit some of the tried and true MMO UI elements so people can control the ships. I have Champions and CoX and this really does not have that feel. I am not exactly sure what people expected for a user interface, maybe voice activated.
As it is I think a large amount of people will like it or at least give it a try, they did do some nice things with the weapons targetting that does remind me of scenes in the series. The space sectors do look nice and suitably big, but maybe not as big as some would want them. So far I have not seen my in the way of scientific exploration or diplomacy other than a quest device or normal scanning of anomolies. Much is still centered on combat, was in an area or Orion Sector last night, before servers went down, and it was near constant battles. It may not conform with many technical lore concepts concerning what weaponry or technologies can work on what types of ships, but a lot of people probably would overlook those aspects in favor of the fun factor of having disruptors on a fleet ship.
I am luke warm trekkie, plus I am burnt out on sword and board fantasy games, I am lifer in lotro, great game, but even as good as it is you gota take a break, I like STO something different to play all my friends are coming over as well, I have played other cryptic games and they all have been good for short term play.. of course the big game is TOR.. but I have lerned to keep expections low...STO for me is a break and a filler until TOR...:)
Oh and they tease us with the faction page showing 4 factions but only 2 are avaiable. Help me out here. The other 2 faction are cardasian and romulan yes?????
Yes, they will be added later. Currently it's just Starfleet vs. Klingons. I'd also expect to eventually see other factions such as Marqui.
also Borg...and not just the liberated kind, they want to work in...at some point...but yeah i'm kinda on the fence, especially since the login server is the same as CO and while the games are seperate login/friends/chat are shared so if one goes down...like it did last week...champions cant be accessed....
Its was a good read, and I see what the OP is saying, but while I'm a long time fan of the IP, the game and its design just doesn't interest me enough to fork over the cash to play it. Maybe in its next life.....
You are correct, Sir!
Anyone who pays for crap, just encourages more crap.
I completly agree. However how am i too know it is crap? Do i believe the egregious amount of trolling on mmorpg???? Or the fansboys??? I dont know of a single person or sight where i can find good reviews that arent bias in 1 way or another. Also your definition of crap may differ from mine?
So tbh the only way is to get lucky and try the beta and even then with a lvl cap of 16 i cant really rely on just that. I have pre order + i got 7 beta keys which ive given to friends and family. I like the space combat end of story. Ground combat is chunky clunky and a 2 shot fest for those with good equipment. In space PVP if feds ball up its near impossible to kill them. But if klingon can pick 1 or 2 off and stop the ball they will win. Overall the game is good in space crap on ground and needs a chunk of work. Releasing early because ATARI is retarded, they finished 1 race , while the 2nd is still being worked on and is expected to be on par 45 days after launch. So i will be lvl 45(Not 50 those bastereds) so most of the fixes and content wont apply to me. Unless I reroll( YEAH GOOD LUCK WITH THAT 3 SLOT BASTERDS).
Well, if you discount any one sight in particular, and go to several others, the general community opinion of a game, be it good or bad, tends to be correct much more often than wrong.
In the case of STO, many more people have negative feelings towards the game, based on what it has and what it does not have, at various sites. Had I not played the beta myself, it would have likely been enough to get me to hold off the initial release.
Having seen and experienced what the game is, I do not need to spend $50 to see if it is magically better the day after launch.
So, I will stick by my original opinion, that paying a company full price for a game that is "crap" only encourages them to put the same out the next time. I think we have seen this exact example here from Cryptic, going from CO to STO, only wasting the chance to use a first class IP in the process.
Its was a good read, and I see what the OP is saying, but while I'm a long time fan of the IP, the game and its design just doesn't interest me enough to fork over the cash to play it. Maybe in its next life.....
You are correct, Sir!
Anyone who pays for crap, just encourages more crap.
I completly agree. However how am i too know it is crap? Do i believe the egregious amount of trolling on mmorpg???? Or the fansboys??? I dont know of a single person or sight where i can find good reviews that arent bias in 1 way or another. Also your definition of crap may differ from mine?
So tbh the only way is to get lucky and try the beta and even then with a lvl cap of 16 i cant really rely on just that. I have pre order + i got 7 beta keys which ive given to friends and family. I like the space combat end of story. Ground combat is chunky clunky and a 2 shot fest for those with good equipment. In space PVP if feds ball up its near impossible to kill them. But if klingon can pick 1 or 2 off and stop the ball they will win. Overall the game is good in space crap on ground and needs a chunk of work. Releasing early because ATARI is retarded, they finished 1 race , while the 2nd is still being worked on and is expected to be on par 45 days after launch. So i will be lvl 45(Not 50 those bastereds) so most of the fixes and content wont apply to me. Unless I reroll( YEAH GOOD LUCK WITH THAT 3 SLOT BASTERDS).
Well, if you discount any one sight in particular, and go to several others, the general community opinion of a game, be it good or bad, tends to be correct much more often than wrong.
In the case of STO, many more people have negative feelings towards the game, based on what it has and what it does not have, at various sites. Had I not played the beta myself, it would have likely been enough to get me to hold off the initial release.
Having seen and experienced what the game is, I do not need to spend $50 to see if it is magically better the day after launch.
So, I will stick by my original opinion, that paying a company full price for a game that is "crap" only encourages them to put the same out the next time. I think we have seen this exact example here from Cryptic, going from CO to STO, only wasting the chance to use a first class IP in the process.
Yes paying for a crapy game only makes them do more crap. I played the beta for 3 days and hated it, my wife even came over and played it for about 2 hours. She then went to her computer pulled up a website and i head her typing for a minute. I asked whats up. She said that after I got the key for open beta she had ordreed it for my birthday (not the pre order), she said she had canceled the order.
Oh well I wish you guys who want to play the game good luck as I refuse to play another crapy star trek game.
I am using every fiber of my being not to preorder and play in the beta as I am huge Star Trek fan as well.
I did this with Crappy-ons and it was a big mistake. Lesson learned I will wait a year or so before giving Cryptic any money. Im sure this game will be launched full of holes and be backed by some of the markets worst customer service and excuses.
How could Star Trek let such a slack ass developer take control of what could potentially have been the biggest MMO of all time? This will make 2 great Sc Fi franchises gone into the pooper with SWG and STO.
I'm sorry to be so negative but do not have very high hopes for this title with Cryptic behind the scenes.
Considering that SW:TOR is now delayed , This well known space franchise will have more of an opportunity with those looking for alternatives to the current offerings
How can something without a release date be delayed?
If you can't stand a game that isn't bug free or plays like a traditional MMO (just in a Star Trek universe), you probably won't want to give this a try at release. I have found it to be entertaining so far and will subscribe at release. Can't say they have anything ground breaking, but they did include most elements found in other MMO's. The game is more complex than I anticipated and may turn some off because of its learning curve. You actually have to think before entering space combat and use tactics or you will become space debris rather quickly. Nothing is hand feed to the players including what the skills actually do or mean (could definetly uses improvement in that area), so a lot of trial and error is needed. Ground combat is pretty much the standard MMO fare of locking on a combatant and using actions to weaken him and then other actions to do the damage. Once again a little stragety helps, don't just charge in as you will receive all the damage! You can improve your lot by croaching down or sprinting and diving. The NPC team members are very helpful with the ground combat. Right now theres so much to do I haven't been able to try out the PvP or Exploration missions or much of the other things to do. The servers appear to be getting much more stable and the dreaded can't get logged in seems to be better. Can't understand why they didn't develope a que though! If you enjoy the present MMo's available today and like Star Trek, I think you will like this game and should give it a try.
I was sorely unimpressed with the beta. Space combat was fun but repetative, ground missions were an excercise in pulling teeth out. Despite my Trek fandom I thought i'd be able to dodge it...
But the "Digital Deluxe" version kicks straight for the nerdticles with it's damn /khaaan! emote. So I folded...
So i'll be right alongside you getting annoyed at the server down message come launch. Ka'Plah!
Well i'm also a star trek fan but HELL i'm not going to encourage that company in the release of such a turd like that. I'm still amazed how some companies getting major IP can ruin it like that, it should be illegal to be that mediocre.
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I'm in ebat and it's not perfect but it's far better than some of the crap out there (that and the little sci-fi geek in me is happy to finally have a sci-fi MMO with ship and group combat besides SWG). It's not bad and I'll be there early release with teh rest of teh trekkies even though I'm not considered one. But it's a fun romp and worth looking into.
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Awesome article I lol'd the entire time because it is so much my experience with the game so far, well I'm not a Trekkie (I'm the guy who used to beat them up in school) but all the game play issues are so familiar it isn't funny and I feel the same way I'll be playing STO alot longer than I'll be playing any other mmo on the market or on its way so far (unless of course Bioware finishes SWTOR sometime soon.).
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
It may be a Star Trek MMO, and that might appease a few Star Trek fanbois, but it's still a bad, shallow, buggy, clunky, boring, content-less, trite videogame by almost every other measure.
You know what they say, you can shellac a turd, but it's still a turd.
but that is just it
it isn't a Star Trek MMO
i hope everyone that purchases the game and or a lifetime sub really enjoys the heck out of their shellacked turd
sounds like your the type of player that keeps MMO developers making crappy halfassed games like this.
Im a fan boy too im just not so fanboy that ill buy a pile of crap with a star trek lable on it
STO doesnt follow mr roddenberrys vission it is a mockery of it
its all combat with bairly a few sprinkles of engineers or science totally missed chance for educational content
no exploration no charting or scanning other than a function of canned quests no mining ot hauling
group ship play is a brawl theres little or no group powers or activities like I cant regenerate my group members wounded shields or hull
but ya theres gonna be a mad hord that will buy STO and all i have to say is that they get what they deserve and they can buy the hext cursed franchise game and the next .
I really wanted to like STO being a refugee from EVE I was looking for a nice deep rich space scifi game that didnt have that jerk filled PVP that eve has but STO is actually even worse in many ways its very much a wow or coh reskinned to star trek.
oh well guess us older players have nowhere to spend out money if they can screw up star trek there is nothing else left that isnt allready dumbed down hack and slash.
make a world, not a game, we dont want another game.
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Bravo! Great article. You have got me geeked up about STO. I think this game is going to be quite good. It isn't some snorefest ez mode game either. This game is tough! I hope it stays that way.
Maybe if I shout "Computer!!" at my mouse? LOL! That clip was awesome.
The game would have to inherit some of the tried and true MMO UI elements so people can control the ships. I have Champions and CoX and this really does not have that feel. I am not exactly sure what people expected for a user interface, maybe voice activated.
As it is I think a large amount of people will like it or at least give it a try, they did do some nice things with the weapons targetting that does remind me of scenes in the series. The space sectors do look nice and suitably big, but maybe not as big as some would want them. So far I have not seen my in the way of scientific exploration or diplomacy other than a quest device or normal scanning of anomolies. Much is still centered on combat, was in an area or Orion Sector last night, before servers went down, and it was near constant battles. It may not conform with many technical lore concepts concerning what weaponry or technologies can work on what types of ships, but a lot of people probably would overlook those aspects in favor of the fun factor of having disruptors on a fleet ship.
I am luke warm trekkie, plus I am burnt out on sword and board fantasy games, I am lifer in lotro, great game, but even as good as it is you gota take a break, I like STO something different to play all my friends are coming over as well, I have played other cryptic games and they all have been good for short term play.. of course the big game is TOR.. but I have lerned to keep expections low...STO for me is a break and a filler until TOR...:)
Yes, they will be added later. Currently it's just Starfleet vs. Klingons. I'd also expect to eventually see other factions such as Marqui.
also Borg...and not just the liberated kind, they want to work in...at some point...but yeah i'm kinda on the fence, especially since the login server is the same as CO and while the games are seperate login/friends/chat are shared so if one goes down...like it did last week...champions cant be accessed....
also
You are correct, Sir!
Anyone who pays for crap, just encourages more crap.
I completly agree. However how am i too know it is crap? Do i believe the egregious amount of trolling on mmorpg???? Or the fansboys??? I dont know of a single person or sight where i can find good reviews that arent bias in 1 way or another. Also your definition of crap may differ from mine?
So tbh the only way is to get lucky and try the beta and even then with a lvl cap of 16 i cant really rely on just that. I have pre order + i got 7 beta keys which ive given to friends and family. I like the space combat end of story. Ground combat is chunky clunky and a 2 shot fest for those with good equipment. In space PVP if feds ball up its near impossible to kill them. But if klingon can pick 1 or 2 off and stop the ball they will win. Overall the game is good in space crap on ground and needs a chunk of work. Releasing early because ATARI is retarded, they finished 1 race , while the 2nd is still being worked on and is expected to be on par 45 days after launch. So i will be lvl 45(Not 50 those bastereds) so most of the fixes and content wont apply to me. Unless I reroll( YEAH GOOD LUCK WITH THAT 3 SLOT BASTERDS).
Well, if you discount any one sight in particular, and go to several others, the general community opinion of a game, be it good or bad, tends to be correct much more often than wrong.
In the case of STO, many more people have negative feelings towards the game, based on what it has and what it does not have, at various sites. Had I not played the beta myself, it would have likely been enough to get me to hold off the initial release.
Having seen and experienced what the game is, I do not need to spend $50 to see if it is magically better the day after launch.
So, I will stick by my original opinion, that paying a company full price for a game that is "crap" only encourages them to put the same out the next time. I think we have seen this exact example here from Cryptic, going from CO to STO, only wasting the chance to use a first class IP in the process.
You are correct, Sir!
Anyone who pays for crap, just encourages more crap.
I completly agree. However how am i too know it is crap? Do i believe the egregious amount of trolling on mmorpg???? Or the fansboys??? I dont know of a single person or sight where i can find good reviews that arent bias in 1 way or another. Also your definition of crap may differ from mine?
So tbh the only way is to get lucky and try the beta and even then with a lvl cap of 16 i cant really rely on just that. I have pre order + i got 7 beta keys which ive given to friends and family. I like the space combat end of story. Ground combat is chunky clunky and a 2 shot fest for those with good equipment. In space PVP if feds ball up its near impossible to kill them. But if klingon can pick 1 or 2 off and stop the ball they will win. Overall the game is good in space crap on ground and needs a chunk of work. Releasing early because ATARI is retarded, they finished 1 race , while the 2nd is still being worked on and is expected to be on par 45 days after launch. So i will be lvl 45(Not 50 those bastereds) so most of the fixes and content wont apply to me. Unless I reroll( YEAH GOOD LUCK WITH THAT 3 SLOT BASTERDS).
Well, if you discount any one sight in particular, and go to several others, the general community opinion of a game, be it good or bad, tends to be correct much more often than wrong.
In the case of STO, many more people have negative feelings towards the game, based on what it has and what it does not have, at various sites. Had I not played the beta myself, it would have likely been enough to get me to hold off the initial release.
Having seen and experienced what the game is, I do not need to spend $50 to see if it is magically better the day after launch.
So, I will stick by my original opinion, that paying a company full price for a game that is "crap" only encourages them to put the same out the next time. I think we have seen this exact example here from Cryptic, going from CO to STO, only wasting the chance to use a first class IP in the process.
Yes paying for a crapy game only makes them do more crap. I played the beta for 3 days and hated it, my wife even came over and played it for about 2 hours. She then went to her computer pulled up a website and i head her typing for a minute. I asked whats up. She said that after I got the key for open beta she had ordreed it for my birthday (not the pre order), she said she had canceled the order.
Oh well I wish you guys who want to play the game good luck as I refuse to play another crapy star trek game.
Yeah but you then get a shellaced Turd. So, you know, "bonus"!
ROFL
Somehow, Sovrath, I think Jennings will laugh at that too.
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I just want to know where's the game that makes me feel like I did when I played Earth and Beyond way back when.
I am using every fiber of my being not to preorder and play in the beta as I am huge Star Trek fan as well.
I did this with Crappy-ons and it was a big mistake. Lesson learned I will wait a year or so before giving Cryptic any money. Im sure this game will be launched full of holes and be backed by some of the markets worst customer service and excuses.
How could Star Trek let such a slack ass developer take control of what could potentially have been the biggest MMO of all time? This will make 2 great Sc Fi franchises gone into the pooper with SWG and STO.
I'm sorry to be so negative but do not have very high hopes for this title with Cryptic behind the scenes.
Perfect! In a 'hit the nail on the head' context.
rofl, great read
so...
I look forward to reading the rantings of Watters the mad, with the occasional flash video making fun of starship mechanics.
How can something without a release date be delayed?
Hilarious!
If you can't stand a game that isn't bug free or plays like a traditional MMO (just in a Star Trek universe), you probably won't want to give this a try at release. I have found it to be entertaining so far and will subscribe at release. Can't say they have anything ground breaking, but they did include most elements found in other MMO's. The game is more complex than I anticipated and may turn some off because of its learning curve. You actually have to think before entering space combat and use tactics or you will become space debris rather quickly. Nothing is hand feed to the players including what the skills actually do or mean (could definetly uses improvement in that area), so a lot of trial and error is needed. Ground combat is pretty much the standard MMO fare of locking on a combatant and using actions to weaken him and then other actions to do the damage. Once again a little stragety helps, don't just charge in as you will receive all the damage! You can improve your lot by croaching down or sprinting and diving. The NPC team members are very helpful with the ground combat. Right now theres so much to do I haven't been able to try out the PvP or Exploration missions or much of the other things to do. The servers appear to be getting much more stable and the dreaded can't get logged in seems to be better. Can't understand why they didn't develope a que though! If you enjoy the present MMo's available today and like Star Trek, I think you will like this game and should give it a try.
"write bizarre fan fiction about my half-Romulan engineer"
I didn't think Romulan was a playable race. Oh, unless you mean RPing that you are a Romulan even though it's not in the game.
Yes, sadly there are too many of those that will eat a double helping of cow dung and smile, as long as it comes with a side of Star Trek IP.
This will undoubtedly lead to other developers looking to cash in on their recipe for a heaping pile of cow dung with <insert popular IP here>.
Your fail comment, failed.
I was sorely unimpressed with the beta. Space combat was fun but repetative, ground missions were an excercise in pulling teeth out. Despite my Trek fandom I thought i'd be able to dodge it...
But the "Digital Deluxe" version kicks straight for the nerdticles with it's damn /khaaan! emote. So I folded...
So i'll be right alongside you getting annoyed at the server down message come launch. Ka'Plah!
Well i'm also a star trek fan but HELL i'm not going to encourage that company in the release of such a turd like that. I'm still amazed how some companies getting major IP can ruin it like that, it should be illegal to be that mediocre.
I LOLed @ the article... good read!
To add fuel into the flame...
So when are they adding jedi?
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I'm in ebat and it's not perfect but it's far better than some of the crap out there (that and the little sci-fi geek in me is happy to finally have a sci-fi MMO with ship and group combat besides SWG). It's not bad and I'll be there early release with teh rest of teh trekkies even though I'm not considered one. But it's a fun romp and worth looking into.
Awesome article I lol'd the entire time because it is so much my experience with the game so far, well I'm not a Trekkie (I'm the guy who used to beat them up in school) but all the game play issues are so familiar it isn't funny and I feel the same way I'll be playing STO alot longer than I'll be playing any other mmo on the market or on its way so far (unless of course Bioware finishes SWTOR sometime soon.).
but yeah, to call this game Fantastic is like calling Twilight the Godfather of vampire movies....
but that is just it
it isn't a Star Trek MMO
i hope everyone that purchases the game and or a lifetime sub really enjoys the heck out of their shellacked turd
sounds like your the type of player that keeps MMO developers making crappy halfassed games like this.
Im a fan boy too im just not so fanboy that ill buy a pile of crap with a star trek lable on it
STO doesnt follow mr roddenberrys vission it is a mockery of it
its all combat with bairly a few sprinkles of engineers or science totally missed chance for educational content
no exploration no charting or scanning other than a function of canned quests no mining ot hauling
group ship play is a brawl theres little or no group powers or activities like I cant regenerate my group members wounded shields or hull
but ya theres gonna be a mad hord that will buy STO and all i have to say is that they get what they deserve and they can buy the hext cursed franchise game and the next .
I really wanted to like STO being a refugee from EVE I was looking for a nice deep rich space scifi game that didnt have that jerk filled PVP that eve has but STO is actually even worse in many ways its very much a wow or coh reskinned to star trek.
oh well guess us older players have nowhere to spend out money if they can screw up star trek there is nothing else left that isnt allready dumbed down hack and slash.
make a world, not a game, we dont want another game.