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All I have to say is this game is actually a piece of shit. I managed to actually play last night for a bit the character creation is the first thing that struck me as being a big WTF moment. There are no information boxes telling you what you just chose actually means in the game world. No kind of indication of what you need to create a certain type of character or even if there is a way to even create a certain type of character. There is NO information what-so-ever pertaining to anything, it's just basically some graphics and that's it, like a MUD but in reverse.
I wandered around for a bit and didn't have the first clue what to do. The user interface was the worst one I've yet to experience I, Had no idea how to even bring up the hud or talk to other people. I randomly brought up my fists for a brief second only for them to go away just as fast. When I finally got the UI up I was presented with more boxes with no information, I understand this is supposed to be super super hardcore - but how do they expect anyone to learn the game.
The graphics, oh the graphics. Considering how they're using the unreal 3 engine they do look a bit poor, this was possibly the games only slightly redeeming feature. The graphics however were very bad, extremely low quality textures, dodgey shadows everywhere, incredibly stiff animations and the list goes on.
Overall there is no way this could even be construed as being a BETA, pre-alpha maybe but by no means is there anywhere near ready for release, as soon as you expect someone to pay a monthly fee for this it will be dead.
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It's fine, I'm not wasting my time on this game.
not played this but Open beta is not for major bug finding an fixing broken or lacking content it is for server stressing only. Everything should have been hammered out way before open beta actually started.
That is all
Ea is like a poo fingered midas ~ShakyMo
the worst part is the LAG
lol.. Nice insight guys...
Fine, more whiners out of my way!
hello all i was able to just log in for about 5 minutes then crashed and unable to login now from what i see it needs some polish however it looks like alot of effort was put in i wouldnt give up on this title i think it has potential and yes i saw someone harvesting and well some animations need alot of work lol overall for the 5 minutes i was in there i felt like i was in a huge open world
I will say that the graphics ,they did turn them way down as mentioned in the update,i have no idea why as this is suppsoe to be a sort of stress test,but i guess they wanted to escape the constant lag whining lol.
As for effort,nope..
It is a 2 year project and it looks like a small dev putting in 2 years,it needs another full year and a half to be top notch.As others have mentioned ,the game needs some tool tips or information to give players direction.
I think SV should have followed an even cheaper route AKA Aion,and just make a few cities for starters.Then try to put a ton of content into those areas.These guys appear to be inexperienced at this and bit off more than they could chew.
I still get the feeling that game probably could and will grow to better standards,these guys are probably out of money and need help.The problem is that you would have to be a severe die hard to stick it out.
I have no idea how they are going to turn a profit with one server and probably 2500-4000 max subs.I think maybe they came to that same conclusion and are going to try and recover as much of their investment as they can.I think the good news is that i believe the majority of investment was their own money,so they won't owe banks and creditors a ton of cash.If they had of borrowed all the cash,thy would spend forever just paying the debt,never turning a profit.
I wish SV luck,i really don't think they are trying to rip anyone off,they just don't have the resources.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I will say that the graphics ,they did turn them way down as mentioned in the update,i have no idea why as this is suppsoe to be a sort of stress test,but i guess they wanted to escape the constant lag whining lol.
As for effort,nope..
It is a 2 year project and it looks like a small dev putting in 2 years,it needs another full year and a half to be top notch.As others have mentioned ,the game needs some tool tips or information to give players direction.
I think SV should have followed an even cheaper route AKA Aion,and just make a few cities for starters.Then try to put a ton of content into those areas.These guys appear to be inexperienced at this and bit off more than they could chew.
I still get the feeling that game probably could and will grow to better standards,these guys are probably out of money and need help.The problem is that you would have to be a severe die hard to stick it out.
I have no idea how they are going to turn a profit with one server and probably 2500-4000 max subs.I think maybe they came to that same conclusion and are going to try and recover as much of their investment as they can.I think the good news is that i believe the majority of investment was their own money,so they won't owe banks and creditors a ton of cash.If they had of borrowed all the cash,thy would spend forever just paying the debt,never turning a profit.
I wish SV luck,i really don't think they are trying to rip anyone off,they just don't have the resources.
100% agree with your post, I think this title is in huge trouble as it runs the risk of being still born with its present condition, which I find saddening as given some more time and resource it does have big potentional, amount of research and effort put in my the team, you can see that, but its just the fact you need a telescope sometimes to see it.
And I think this is where I think you touched on the main problem, they had this big idea, and obviously did lots of research, and debated long into the night about reciepes and formulas for crafting and the like, and maybe lost sight of time management and stage goals.....I dont think anyone would of minded if the started the world 1/4 size and upstaged in releases post launch.
This is certainly off-topic, but comparison to Aion is not really that helpful. NCSoft is far from being a small developer, and Aion had a year of post-release development before any of us saw it (unless you played the Korean version).
I found it very un intuative, its no where near ready to launch.
The sky looks nice though!
I bough the game / beta /whatever
When it goes "live" ill come back and see, but I hope its in "beta" for a good few months yet!
they need the money NOW, so lets hope its well spent ehh?
Best of luck to SV
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
sadly, even DnL was a better game.
Sickan, this old post made my LOL
www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/2934891#2934891
How can you say MO is in better shape than DFO was at launch???
I win!!! LOL@U
Because...... I think it will ^^
Have you seen MO's launch yet? Cuz I havent. Time will tell, as long as it is "as bad" as DFO it will be alright! lol
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
And from you when DFO came out! Whats your point? I love MO, and want it to succeed, thats is why I write on mmorpg.com, not just to back any new game that does not fit my taste! If you dont like the game, dont play or trashtalk it! Thats my opinion. Why even bother then?
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
And from you when DFO came out! Whats your point? I love MO, and want it to succeed, thats is why I write on mmorpg.com, not just to back any new game that does not fit my taste! If you dont like the game, dont play or trashtalk it! Thats my opinion. Why even bother then?
SV could have shut me up a long time ago if they refunded my money. They didn't, and I'm still waiting on my box... so as a result I'll sit here and talk about the game that I paid for.
It would have been a lot easier to just refund me the cash though.
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
And from you when DFO came out! Whats your point? I love MO, and want it to succeed, thats is why I write on mmorpg.com, not just to back any new game that does not fit my taste! If you dont like the game, dont play or trashtalk it! Thats my opinion. Why even bother then?
Because the beloved MO fanboys trashed DF for months on end on their forums and here as well...stating MO is highly superior and what DF should have been - when the true reality was, is and will be its in abominable shape compared to DF
now be a good boy and take your own medicine, you all deserved it
So far the development of Mortal seems less infected and with fewer absurd comments (no Tasos) compared to Darkfall. Some things are worse for Mortal, theres similarities as well though (in for a rocky launch, to say the least).
And OP, it sounds as if you jumped into this game blindfolded, had no idea what you were doing, and blame it on the game being "a piece of shit." Was that about right?
Some things? Try everything. Nothing is working very well. Everything is clunky. I will give an honest assessment this weekend.
lol...
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
And from you when DFO came out! Whats your point? I love MO, and want it to succeed, thats is why I write on mmorpg.com, not just to back any new game that does not fit my taste! If you dont like the game, dont play or trashtalk it! Thats my opinion. Why even bother then?
Because the beloved MO fanboys trashed DF for months on end on their forums and here as well...stating MO is highly superior and what DF should have been - when the true reality was, is and will be its in abominable shape compared to DF
now be a good boy and take your own medicine, you all deserved it
Haha, as I remember it, discussions about DFO were allowed on the MOFO, as long as it was not trashtalk. Search the forums for your self to see how many discussions there are. I was on the DF forums, every thread about MO was deleted, and the users got banned.
The same on theese boards, DFO was here long before MO, and when MO got listed all the DFO fanbois were in MO's forums trolling. Cannot see why. Ok if you state your opinion on a game. But sabotage every thread with pure trash talk and lies? Why? I just don't see the point. But it might just be me then!?
*starting a donation for HerculesSAS' for his refund* <- We will not have all this then? ^o^
Oddly enough... these comments were the same ones used when Dark and Light went live.
Heh. Wonder how that turned out.
And from you when DFO came out! Whats your point? I love MO, and want it to succeed, thats is why I write on mmorpg.com, not just to back any new game that does not fit my taste! If you dont like the game, dont play or trashtalk it! Thats my opinion. Why even bother then?
Because the beloved MO fanboys trashed DF for months on end on their forums and here as well...stating MO is highly superior and what DF should have been - when the true reality was, is and will be its in abominable shape compared to DF
now be a good boy and take your own medicine, you all deserved it
Haha, as I remember it, discussions about DFO were allowed on the MOFO, as long as it was not trashtalk. Search the forums for your self to see how many discussions there are. I was on the DF forums, every thread about MO was deleted, and the users got banned.
The same on theese boards, DFO was here long before MO, and when MO got listed all the DFO fanbois were in MO's forums trolling. Cannot see why. Ok if you state your opinion on a game. But sabotage every thread with pure trash talk and lies? Why? I just don't see the point. But it might just be me then!?
*starting a donation for HerculesSAS' for his refund* <- We will not have all this then? ^o^
It's not trash talk if people are telling the truth.
Now that people have started to experience MO -- they see themselves that the game is basically unplayable, bug ridden, and not very good. My posts on the matter stated as such, and now they are being continually verified independently.
And as for the refund from you -- I wouldn't accept it. If SV chooses to refund me (as I've yet to receive my box) then I'll leave the forums here and let you guys discuss it amongst yourselves. Until then, I will be here. Maybe you should petition them to do it. It's principle, not the money.
If it is the truth - yes!
Trash talk to me is made up lies, stating old stuff that was fixed like 5 patches ago and so on. Just digging up stuf to get a company in disrepute - that is trash talk to me!
As said, if you are stating your opinion, that is fine. But going into every single thread just to disrepute MO/SV - I don't see what you you are gaining on it? I understand you wan't your refund - but to come up with all different stuff just to put them in bad shape, that is just sad imo!
The thing is, it isn't trash talk and lies, trying to claim anyone is sabotaging threads is absurd.
Time to wake up and face the music. MO is nowhere near ready for a commercial launch and is currently in such a poor state that SV will be lucky to last six months if they move forward with what they have now.
The game is little more than a framework at the moment, and that is a fact. Technical issues and poor netcode plague the game worse than any mmo I have ever seen. They can't even manage to get there database working properly, something that should at least be relatively stable at this stage of development, yet is nowhere near stable and constantly provides testers with hours of frustration.
You are clearly a very big fan of the game and are definitely allowed to have your own opinion, but when you start making blatant attempts to degrade another users opinion just because you disagree with it, that borders on hypocrisy and just makes you seem desperate to appear correct and gain attention. Opinions vary, and just because you think yours is the "right" one does not make it so.
I have yet to see anything in the way of facts or data from you to prove that MO is ready for a launch in its current state, just a biased personal opinion and lack of willingness to hold a civil discussion on the topic, because you toss out cop-outs and rhetoric like they are going out of style.
Reality check time.
It is not about this thread. You can start a thread about almost everything, like: Oh that is some cool new art in MO, or look at the cool new trailer. Emidiately there are a couple of persons raiding the thread about all other things; like how bad the management is, that they are amateurs, scams and so on and so on. This is to sabotage a thread. If I am discussing the art, I dont want every second post to be about something else.
Yes I am a fan, and yes I know it need improvements. And if they could wait some months it would be great, but if they cannot do that, what is the point of discussing that they should do it all over again? Why not try to make the best out of the situation?
The thing is, it isn't trash talk and lies, trying to claim anyone is sabotaging threads is absurd.
Time to wake up and face the music. MO is nowhere near ready for a commercial launch and is currently in such a poor state that SV will be lucky to last six months if they move forward with what they have now.
The game is little more than a framework at the moment, and that is a fact. Technical issues and poor netcode plague the game worse than any mmo I have ever seen. They can't even manage to get there database working properly, something that should at least be relatively stable at this stage of development, yet is nowhere near stable and constantly provides testers with hours of frustration.
You are clearly a very big fan of the game and are definitely allowed to have your own opinion, but when you start making blatant attempts to degrade another users opinion just because you disagree with it, that borders on hypocrisy and just makes you seem desperate to appear correct and gain attention. Opinions vary, and just because you think yours is the "right" one does not make it so.
I have yet to see anything in the way of facts or data from you to prove that MO is ready for a launch in its current state, just a biased personal opinion and lack of willingness to hold a civil discussion on the topic, because you toss out cop-outs and rhetoric like they are going out of style.
Reality check time.
Great post Kost +1
I win!!! LOL@U
Considering how much fun Darkfall is and the upcoming free updates coming in 2010, I'd say Mortal is doomed....lol
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