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Aventurine bans high profile player

xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459

Good to see some high profile "known" cheaters finally getting banned:

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

Hopefully, if there are more out there they won't take as long to get the ban-hammer... but at least it's a step in the right direction.

 

I also agree with Ginger's point in this thread as well:

forums.darkfallonline.com/showthread.php

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  • ProfRedProfRed Member UncommonPosts: 3,495

    Awesome.  I love when they ban the known cheaters and wipe away all they worked for and essentially take away their box price, each months sub, and the sub for the cheat.  Kid probably invested hundreds and lost it because he had to be an asshat hacker.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333

    He has been banned now for the 6th time or something. hope he got finally bored of it and don't reappear.

     

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  • hgfhfhfghhgfhfhfgh Member Posts: 14

    Only took them 10 months eh? awesome service sign me up!

  • AzdulAzdul Member UncommonPosts: 440

    He was banned few times before. Now they've just banned his fifth and sixth account.

    I know many more known players who "got bored with the game" :) and suddently left.

    Whole clans "got bored" on one day when AV implemented loot macro detection.

    They won't be missed.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by hgfhfhfgh


    Only took them 10 months eh? awesome service sign me up!

     

    Topic subject is a bit missleading..the "finally" in it means just that for the first time we probably have a confirmed banned name.

    The player has been banned repeatadly in the past  for who knows how much times..  5th.. 6th ? maybe more...and even now he tried to become his hands on someones else char..

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  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    He has been banned now for the 6th time or something. hope he got finally bored of it and don't reappear.
     



     

    Yeah, I read that as well...

     

    Although, to be fair to Aventurine... if he is re-buying a new account each time, and if he isn't using the same CC each time... there isn't much they can do to stop that part.

     

    If they continue to stay vigilant and aren't afraid to ban high-profile players... they are doing what needs to be done.  Hopefully they are investigating everyone in the same clan as well.  Not saying they are all cheaters... but they at least deserve a second look. 

     

    Edit: Agreed with Darth on the "finally" part in the title... changed it. 

  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Good riddance to bad rubbish is all I have to say about little Ashley erm sorry Arkillion.

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  • EvasiaEvasia Member Posts: 2,827
    Originally posted by zymurgeist


    It's a good move. It would be better if they fixed whatever he got banned for so others couldn't do it. That's probably not a s easy as it sounds though.

     

    He first got banned for speed/teleport hacking still video's on youtube showing him doing that.

    He also joined about 20 clans i think nobody realy could play with him hehe.

    His status btw as so called high profile player he earned mostly by ganking newbees trash talk and show his cheated/exploited skills and earnings constantly in general alliance chat.

    Then he exploited mobs and other exploits over period of 8 months.

    There still some high profile cheaters ingame i hope they will be banned also but problem is they already have maxed out skills for months now so cheating is prolly not that frequent anymore for them.

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    In between WoW few months AoC few months and some f2p also all very short few weeks.

  • xzyaxxzyax Member Posts: 2,459
    Originally posted by Evasia

    Originally posted by zymurgeist


    It's a good move. It would be better if they fixed whatever he got banned for so others couldn't do it. That's probably not a s easy as it sounds though.

     

    He first got banned for speed/teleport hacking still video's on youtube showing him doing that.

    He also joined about 20 clans i think nobody realy could play with him hehe.

    His status btw as so called high profile player he earned mostly by ganking newbees trash talk and show his cheated/exploited skills and earnings constantly in general alliance chat.

    Then he exploited mobs and other exploits over period of 8 months.

    There still some high profile cheaters ingame i hope they will be banned also but problem is they already have maxed out skills for months now so cheating is prolly not that frequent anymore for them.



     

    Yeah, I think most would admit it would have been better if this ban had come a bit quicker.

    In the end, it's still a good thing that he got banned. 

    Hopefully, Aventurine notices the positive impact that banning that type of player has on the game; and continues to cull them from DarkFall. 

  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    I mentioned in a post about 2 weeks ago that probably the top 10% of players all cheated at one time or another.The problem is to prove it,and relying on the player base handing over videos,is a poor way to catch them.It might provide solid proof,but you are going to catch about 3% of the cheats using that method.The game needs flags,setup to monitor certain in game actions.

    I guarantee there is a ton of aimbotters,that is one hard cheat to catch in this game,i doubt AV is capable of catching them.

    Good to see a cheat get banned,albeit took a player to catch them,witch sadly is usually the case.

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  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,079

    Glad to see Aventurine continuing to work hard to ban those who cheat and hopefully close some of the loopholes that they exploit.

     

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  • AzdulAzdul Member UncommonPosts: 440

    www.mortalonline.com/forums/32224-lolwat-how-do-you-play.html#post697519

    I hope that someone is trolling, and it's not the same guy we know from Darkfall :)

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Well done AV.

    Hopefully more will follow.

  • gothagotha Member UncommonPosts: 1,074
    Originally posted by Wizardry


    I mentioned in a post about 2 weeks ago that probably the top 10% of players all cheated at one time or another.The problem is to prove it,and relying on the player base handing over videos,is a poor way to catch them.It might provide solid proof,but you are going to catch about 3% of the cheats using that method.The game needs flags,setup to monitor certain in game actions.
    I guarantee there is a ton of aimbotters,that is one hard cheat to catch in this game,i doubt AV is capable of catching them.
    Good to see a cheat get banned,albeit took a player to catch them,witch sadly is usually the case.

     

    With exception of archery Aiming in darkfall is not extremely hard.  Most people i know who have tried Aim bots said they were to clunky,

  • seabeastseabeast Member Posts: 748

    It is a start but, AV has a long way to go in addressing the  issues.

  • CecropiaCecropia Member RarePosts: 3,985

    Excellent news.

    Keep that banhammer swinging AV, ban them all!

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  • Agricola1Agricola1 Member UncommonPosts: 4,977

    Arkillion?

     

    I see it more as a bug fix than anything else!

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  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723

    Although its nice to see that AV does something, its only a single drop of water on hot stone.

    If they would really banhammer all cheaters / exploiters they would have to ban almost all high end profiles, which is pathetic.

    For instance Zxyz a leader of one of the biggest allys Power Rangers is an ex "The Merc" which is know as the clan which exploited everything and used any hack that were out there. He is still here and i dont think he will get banned at all any time.

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  • BlindchanceBlindchance Member UncommonPosts: 1,112
    Originally posted by DarthRaiden


    He has been banned now for the 6th time or something. hope he got finally bored of it and don't reappear.

    I said that before and I am telling you that again.

    Paypal should never be allowed as an option to pay for the game. More importantly they should ban not only accounts, but credit cards numbers as well.

  • darkangel99darkangel99 Member Posts: 23

    or they could fix the god awful security to keep people from hacking in the first place and outlaw third party programs, in other words dont allow them to work.  seems like just about every pvp oriented game has these problems and people wonder why most gamers dont like pvp in their games, its because it attracts morons like this and the game companies are extremely slow about doing anything about that type of person ruining others gameplay. 

     

    kudos to those guys for trying to clean up darkfall but there are probably thousands doing it for each one that gets caught.

  • BlindchanceBlindchance Member UncommonPosts: 1,112
    Originally posted by darkangel99


    or they could fix the god awful security to keep people from hacking in the first place and outlaw third party programs, in other words dont allow them to work.  seems like just about every pvp oriented game has these problems and people wonder why most gamers dont like pvp in their games, its because it attracts morons like this and the game companies are extremely slow about doing anything about that type of person ruining others gameplay. 
     
    kudos to those guys for trying to clean up darkfall but there are probably thousands doing it for each one that gets caught.

    You seem to be really smart in this subject, maybe you know how to do this ? Seriously you have no clue, don't you ? There are things which will be never secured in MMOs as they are in normal multiplayer games. There was a good talk about it with one of Mortal Online devs a while ago. I rather trust his knowledge then yours.

    And do you know what ? You can still run into a cheater while playing CS or CoD4 and somehow I don't see people quit playing them en masse.

    The last thing, please don't pull out numbers about something from nowhere, it makes you even less credible. I am talking about your thousands of cheaters claim.

     

  • XianthosXianthos Member Posts: 723
    Originally posted by Blindchance

    Originally posted by darkangel99


    or they could fix the god awful security to keep people from hacking in the first place and outlaw third party programs, in other words dont allow them to work.  seems like just about every pvp oriented game has these problems and people wonder why most gamers dont like pvp in their games, its because it attracts morons like this and the game companies are extremely slow about doing anything about that type of person ruining others gameplay. 
     
    kudos to those guys for trying to clean up darkfall but there are probably thousands doing it for each one that gets caught.

    You seem to be really smart in this subject, maybe you know how to do this ? Seriously you have no clue, don't you ? There are things which will be never secured in MMOs as they are in normal multiplayer games. There was a good talk about it with one of Mortal Online devs a while ago. I rather trust his knowledge then yours.

    And do you know what ? You can still run into a cheater while playing CS or CoD4 and somehow I don't see people quit playing them en masse.

    The last thing, please don't pull out numbers about something from nowhere, it makes you even less credible. I am talking about your thousands of cheaters claim.

     

     

    They could have done a lot of hacks not usable by making more data server side not like now a lot of data stored client side and free usable by third party programms if you know how ... thats sad.

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  • KostKost Member CommonPosts: 1,975

    Chances are he will just buy another account and continue.

    I'm fairly certain this is the sixth or seventh time that player has had an account banned. A repeat offender of the highest caliber.

  • DarthRaidenDarthRaiden Member UncommonPosts: 4,333
    Originally posted by Xianthos

    Originally posted by Blindchance

    Originally posted by darkangel99


    or they could fix the god awful security to keep people from hacking in the first place and outlaw third party programs, in other words dont allow them to work.  seems like just about every pvp oriented game has these problems and people wonder why most gamers dont like pvp in their games, its because it attracts morons like this and the game companies are extremely slow about doing anything about that type of person ruining others gameplay. 
     
    kudos to those guys for trying to clean up darkfall but there are probably thousands doing it for each one that gets caught.

    You seem to be really smart in this subject, maybe you know how to do this ? Seriously you have no clue, don't you ? There are things which will be never secured in MMOs as they are in normal multiplayer games. There was a good talk about it with one of Mortal Online devs a while ago. I rather trust his knowledge then yours.

    And do you know what ? You can still run into a cheater while playing CS or CoD4 and somehow I don't see people quit playing them en masse.

    The last thing, please don't pull out numbers about something from nowhere, it makes you even less credible. I am talking about your thousands of cheaters claim.

     

     

    They could have done a lot of hacks not usable by making more data server side not like now a lot of data stored client side and free usable by third party programms if you know how ... thats sad.

     

    You say that like it was some sort of recipe for a perfect solution, there would be a pay out for that and the payout for it would be that the game would turn from real time combat to something else..and still would be hackable.

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    -We finally WON !!!! 2011 $OE accepted that they have been fired 2005 by the playerbase and closed down ridiculous NGE !!

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  • BlindchanceBlindchance Member UncommonPosts: 1,112
    Originally posted by Xianthos


    They could have done a lot of hacks not usable by making more data server side not like now a lot of data stored client side and free usable by third party programms if you know how ... thats sad.

    The problem is that's what is not possible, because of the scale of the game. The same problem exists in Mortal Online. They have some kind of passive software which gathers at least part of the data needed to prove that somebody hacks, that's the main reason why few hundred people got banned last year. 

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