I can't believe the cheek of Cryptic thinking its acceptable to ask for a subscription AND have a cash shop too - its disgraceful and should not be supported by anyone.
Just wanted to say thank you for asking some good and tough questions in this interview. If for no other reason than to maybe get in the developers minds what the actual feedback is for their game. It isn't just a "vocal minority" who are having some issues with the game. I loved his answer to the instancing question because it show just how full of shit these developers are. Who does he think is reading this? The reason for the multi shards is because that's how the engine is built. It had nothing to do with Star Trek. LMAO My follow up to him would have been, then why the **** did they the same thing in Champions Online? I would loved to have heard the b.s. response. Ah, anyway thank you for asking some tough questions bro. /salute
I love this guy from Cryptic. "Yeah you need to buy our game now cause we PROMISE to bring you a game after you purchase the box and a life time subscription. Don't worry about the fact that is just a mash the spacebar/f key game now. Content will come later." Thanks but I'll keep my money to had to a developer who actually gives me a game, a story, and fun - like BioWare.
No kidding and I agree. STO looks like another rushed CO just to make a buck for a hollow game. I read nothing he said that even remotely made me feel like subscribing to STO, in fact it had the opposite effect.
Meh...a good idea gone lame. I'm reminded of the launch of SWG. Hopefully, like SWG, the sheer weight of the Star Trek fanbase will hold them over until they add in the missing pieces.
I love this guy from Cryptic. "Yeah you need to buy our game now cause we PROMISE to bring you a game after you purchase the box and a life time subscription. Don't worry about the fact that is just a mash the spacebar/f key game now. Content will come later." Thanks but I'll keep my money to had to a developer who actually gives me a game, a story, and fun - like BioWare.
Yeah, Cryptic marketing have a consistent/well earned reputation in these regards. And their weirdness over the spacebar mashing ... there is all but no other option except to use out of game macros. Weirdly enough, they appear to have removed the ground-based auto attack (was one ability autofire, now zero ...).
You do get a relatively consistent game experience with Cryptic games, but they aren't really enough to keep you too long (unlike a Bioware, Square, etc.)
I am skipping this lame excuse for a game which I played in OB. It fails on so many levels it is as if they could care less about the Star Trek franchise and just decided to milk it for everything they could.
Maybe, and I mean by some miracle, Cryptic will get a wake up call and actually realize everything they did wrong and add it into the game!
Do not try to be a great gamer, just be a gamer. Cause, I don't care how good you are anyway.
For along time i was excited about this game.But with the feed back I have gotten from this site,the beta testers,the launch day interview responses,thefact that its a sub based game with a Cash shop, other sites,and the fact that its all instanced destroys my perspective of the game.
Star Trek is about exploring ,going where no man has one before.But you are set on a pre determined path here it seems.No open world?I can't even play as certain races unless i pay for them extra?I mean that alone seems like a huge scam to me.
I will see how it works out and monitor the game for a while.On that note .I would like to thank the beta testers for there feed back , and also Jon Wood for this interview. It saved me 50 bucks.
If they woulda copied the business model that DDO has inplace , p2p or f2p with CS , I may have even bought the game then.But man.This just totally seems like the exact opposite of what Star Trek should be about.When you Think of Star Trek being a game,the 1st thing that pops into my mind is Sandbox.Hell I woulda been stoked if they used the IP and copied Eve's style some.
Thanks again everyone who contributed to my decision to stay clear of this for now.Maybe in the Future if they do what they are saying they will do,I may try this.But still the cash shop thing is a huge turn off in its own.
P.S. If anyone from Cryptic is monitoring this. You do realize we are in a damn recession.The economy is pretty terrible and we as consumers are no idiots.We are trying to save a buck or two.Not get nickle and dimed to poverty.We look for these savings in multiple places, From car notes ,house notes,skimming the grocery bill and yes entertainment.If you had a marketing clue in this world, you would know that people would look at this business model and immediately shun it.I believe you may have completely turned the MMO consumer base against you.Just alil food for thought from my head to you .
MMORPG.com: All the beta testers think you game is fail are you looking for a new line of work now? STO: Ummmm MMORPG.com:: So would you say that your game sucks more or less than Diakatana? Sto:uhhhh.less? MMORPG.com: You heard it hear first folks STO devs admit that STO is the biggiest failure since Diakatana, stay tuned for or gushing fanboi praise of Aion and EveOnline next., back to you sparky.
Yep typical mmorpg.com
Normally, I at least understand when people start mindlessly bashing us... This, I don't understand. Can you clarify?
Ok, this post was inane and trollish.... but you want to know why some of us think the editors (and more so the moderator/community managers) of this site are Aion/EvE fanbois, who unfairly moderate in favor of fans of those games, and against fans of other games...
Which was abaout the 17th peice of shit thread from the same person, bashing the same game, for the same reasons. Your moderators, in spite of "Notice of increased moderation" have done NOTHING to intervene in the constant bullying that STO have endured for daring to voice a positive opinion of this game, yet I got a warning for posting a "Where's Sulu" thread (and STO in-joke, since I'm well aware you, and most people reading this don't play) Now in all fairness, after protesting, the warning was recended while the thread remained locked, but then a flamer, whos thread was locked for trolling, got his thread reopened simply by removing the word "idiots" even though his entire thread was bashing STO fans.
So yeah... this poster didn't come acrossed well or appropriately... but the excuse the fuck out us if things don't seem a little biased from where we're sitting.
The thread I was commenting (furiously) about has been removed from sticky. I appriciate this,as I do feel that stickying that particular thread implied endorsement of a particular opinion and editorial bias for and against certain types of MMO.
Edit: Oh and sorry for the rant... I was a bit miffed... to put it mildly.
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I've played the game now for a week and enjoy it. Its' like any game, you're either going to like it or not
Very good interview with some prying questions.
I can't believe the cheek of Cryptic thinking its acceptable to ask for a subscription AND have a cash shop too - its disgraceful and should not be supported by anyone.
Famous IPs + MMOs = FAIL almost every time (just ask Mythic and FunCom).
Hey Jon,
Just wanted to say thank you for asking some good and tough questions in this interview. If for no other reason than to maybe get in the developers minds what the actual feedback is for their game. It isn't just a "vocal minority" who are having some issues with the game. I loved his answer to the instancing question because it show just how full of shit these developers are. Who does he think is reading this? The reason for the multi shards is because that's how the engine is built. It had nothing to do with Star Trek. LMAO My follow up to him would have been, then why the **** did they the same thing in Champions Online? I would loved to have heard the b.s. response. Ah, anyway thank you for asking some tough questions bro. /salute
No kidding and I agree. STO looks like another rushed CO just to make a buck for a hollow game. I read nothing he said that even remotely made me feel like subscribing to STO, in fact it had the opposite effect.
Meh...a good idea gone lame. I'm reminded of the launch of SWG. Hopefully, like SWG, the sheer weight of the Star Trek fanbase will hold them over until they add in the missing pieces.
Yeah, Cryptic marketing have a consistent/well earned reputation in these regards. And their weirdness over the spacebar mashing ... there is all but no other option except to use out of game macros. Weirdly enough, they appear to have removed the ground-based auto attack (was one ability autofire, now zero ...).
You do get a relatively consistent game experience with Cryptic games, but they aren't really enough to keep you too long (unlike a Bioware, Square, etc.)
I am skipping this lame excuse for a game which I played in OB. It fails on so many levels it is as if they could care less about the Star Trek franchise and just decided to milk it for everything they could.
Maybe, and I mean by some miracle, Cryptic will get a wake up call and actually realize everything they did wrong and add it into the game!
Do not try to be a great gamer, just be a gamer. Cause, I don't care how good you are anyway.
For along time i was excited about this game.But with the feed back I have gotten from this site,the beta testers,the launch day interview responses,thefact that its a sub based game with a Cash shop, other sites,and the fact that its all instanced destroys my perspective of the game.
Star Trek is about exploring ,going where no man has one before.But you are set on a pre determined path here it seems.No open world?I can't even play as certain races unless i pay for them extra?I mean that alone seems like a huge scam to me.
I will see how it works out and monitor the game for a while.On that note .I would like to thank the beta testers for there feed back , and also Jon Wood for this interview. It saved me 50 bucks.
If they woulda copied the business model that DDO has inplace , p2p or f2p with CS , I may have even bought the game then.But man.This just totally seems like the exact opposite of what Star Trek should be about.When you Think of Star Trek being a game,the 1st thing that pops into my mind is Sandbox.Hell I woulda been stoked if they used the IP and copied Eve's style some.
Thanks again everyone who contributed to my decision to stay clear of this for now.Maybe in the Future if they do what they are saying they will do,I may try this.But still the cash shop thing is a huge turn off in its own.
P.S. If anyone from Cryptic is monitoring this. You do realize we are in a damn recession.The economy is pretty terrible and we as consumers are no idiots.We are trying to save a buck or two.Not get nickle and dimed to poverty.We look for these savings in multiple places, From car notes ,house notes,skimming the grocery bill and yes entertainment.If you had a marketing clue in this world, you would know that people would look at this business model and immediately shun it.I believe you may have completely turned the MMO consumer base against you.Just alil food for thought from my head to you .
Normally, I at least understand when people start mindlessly bashing us... This, I don't understand. Can you clarify?
Ok, this post was inane and trollish.... but you want to know why some of us think the editors (and more so the moderator/community managers) of this site are Aion/EvE fanbois, who unfairly moderate in favor of fans of those games, and against fans of other games...
I'll show you...
You stickied this piece of shit thread:
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/268722/Is-this-game-really-an-MMO.html
Which was abaout the 17th peice of shit thread from the same person, bashing the same game, for the same reasons. Your moderators, in spite of "Notice of increased moderation" have done NOTHING to intervene in the constant bullying that STO have endured for daring to voice a positive opinion of this game, yet I got a warning for posting a "Where's Sulu" thread (and STO in-joke, since I'm well aware you, and most people reading this don't play) Now in all fairness, after protesting, the warning was recended while the thread remained locked, but then a flamer, whos thread was locked for trolling, got his thread reopened simply by removing the word "idiots" even though his entire thread was bashing STO fans.
So yeah... this poster didn't come acrossed well or appropriately... but the excuse the fuck out us if things don't seem a little biased from where we're sitting.
Active: WoW
Semi-retired: STO
Fully retired: UO, EQ, AC, SWG, FFXI, DDO:EU, PoTBS, AoC, EvE
Tried: EQ2, Tabula Rasa, Auto-Assault, Isteria, LotRO, Wizard 101
Looking forward to: Star Citizen
Credit where credit is do...
The thread I was commenting (furiously) about has been removed from sticky. I appriciate this,as I do feel that stickying that particular thread implied endorsement of a particular opinion and editorial bias for and against certain types of MMO.
Edit: Oh and sorry for the rant... I was a bit miffed... to put it mildly.
Active: WoW
Semi-retired: STO
Fully retired: UO, EQ, AC, SWG, FFXI, DDO:EU, PoTBS, AoC, EvE
Tried: EQ2, Tabula Rasa, Auto-Assault, Isteria, LotRO, Wizard 101
Looking forward to: Star Citizen