It's good news when a company seeks to cut costs through increased efficiencies and downsizing through attrition. When a company downsizes through layoffs it means they are not making enough revenue to justify the production expenses; and that's BAD news. Take the human element out of it and think of it this way: each person was hired because they possessed certain skills deemed valuable to the company. When they cut those people, they were basically saying "we can sacrifice this capability for cash on hand." In other words, "we need cash now, and we're ok lessening what we can do as a company to get it." I've seen upper echelon companies destroyed through repeated rounds of cuts. Not saying this will cripple Activision, but cuts always hurt a company eventually, regardless of what the bottom line says today.
I have said on MANY occasions that Blizzard just like Vivendi is a horrible spender,running extreme costs far above other developers but producing far less.Not only do they not produce very much,but all their products are low tech,their projects SHOULD carry far cheaper production costs,but they are just bad at spending money.
I would agree they are banking on Cataclysm but SC2?no way,SC2 is a pile of junk,it is the exact same as SC1 super old game,all they are doing is adding shaders and some lighting,.I already pointed out ,that adding shaders and lighting to junk graphics will not help the game at all.Blizzard is just full of inept people,all they are capable of is low scale projects,but people will play them and claim FUN,when in reality,they are simplistic designs that would only keep the interest of a teenager that is just getting into gaming.
Instead of wasting all that money that WOW made them,they should have hired some real skilled leaders and create their own game engine,one that rivals the UE3,Cry engine ect ect.They should quit hiring outside help,witch again is a waste of money,unless they feel their own resources are that bad that it is cheaper to hire outside,in witch case,layoffs were long overdue.
In comparison,Square Enix already has at minimum7+ gaming divisions,and are now "hiring" some VERY skilled positions to open yet another top notch division for some new secret MMO,so they are going to match that "so called "SECRET mmo of Blizzard easily and still maintain TONS more quality production,all the while still maintaining JOINT ventures.It is SIMPLE to see who the professional developer is and the one that operates like an amateur.Blizza is TRYING hard to keep up with the jones,but they are just poorly organized,they are trying to enter the multi platform market,but imo they are just going to copy and follow others,they have no leadership.
One needs to look back at the FFVII days,that developer was nearing bankruptcy,they were as good as dead,then FFVII saved them.The difference here from them and Blizzard ,is that Blizzard remained stagnant,they just continued to ride their coat tails on the same products year after year,while Square took those small profits and expanded their operation 10 fold,and are now leaving Blizzard in their dust.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
I have said on MANY occasions that Blizzard just like Vivendi is a horrible spender,running extreme costs far above other developers but producing far less.Not only do they not produce very much,but all their products are low tech,their projects SHOULD carry far cheaper production costs,but they are just bad at spending money. I would agree they are banking on Cataclysm but SC2?no way,SC2 is a pile of junk,it is the exact same as SC1 super old game,all they are doing is adding shaders and some lighting,.I already pointed out ,that adding shaders and lighting to junk graphics will not help the game at all.Blizzard is just full of inept people,all they are capable of is low scale projects,but people will play them and claim FUN,when in reality,they are simplistic designs that would only keep the interest of a teenager that is just getting into gaming. Instead of wasting all that money that WOW made them,they should have hired some real skilled leaders and create their own game engine,one that rivals the UE3,Cry engine ect ect.They should quit hiring outside help,witch again is a waste of money,unless they feel their own resources are that bad that it is cheaper to hire outside,in witch case,layoffs were long overdue. In comparison,Square Enix already has at minimum7+ gaming divisions,and are now "hiring" some VERY skilled positions to open yet another top notch division for some new secret MMO,so they are going to match that "so called "SECRET mmo of Blizzard easily and still maintain TONS more quality production,all the while still maintaining JOINT ventures.It is SIMPLE to see who the professional developer is and the one that operates like an amateur.Blizza is TRYING hard to keep up with the jones,but they are just poorly organized,they are trying to enter the multi platform market,but imo they are just going to copy and follow others,they have no leadership. One needs to look back at the FFVII days,that developer was nearing bankruptcy,they were as good as dead,then FFVII saved them.The difference here from them and Blizzard ,is that Blizzard remained stagnant,they just continued to ride their coat tails on the same products year after year,while Square took those small profits and expanded their operation 10 fold,and are now leaving Blizzard in their dust.
Once again; this has nothing to do with Blizzard. It's all Activision!
I have said on MANY occasions that Blizzard just like Vivendi is a horrible spender,running extreme costs far above other developers but producing far less.Not only do they not produce very much,but all their products are low tech,their projects SHOULD carry far cheaper production costs,but they are just bad at spending money. I would agree they are banking on Cataclysm but SC2?no way,SC2 is a pile of junk,it is the exact same as SC1 super old game,all they are doing is adding shaders and some lighting,.I already pointed out ,that adding shaders and lighting to junk graphics will not help the game at all.Blizzard is just full of inept people,all they are capable of is low scale projects,but people will play them and claim FUN,when in reality,they are simplistic designs that would only keep the interest of a teenager that is just getting into gaming. Instead of wasting all that money that WOW made them,they should have hired some real skilled leaders and create their own game engine,one that rivals the UE3,Cry engine ect ect.They should quit hiring outside help,witch again is a waste of money,unless they feel their own resources are that bad that it is cheaper to hire outside,in witch case,layoffs were long overdue. In comparison,Square Enix already has at minimum7+ gaming divisions,and are now "hiring" some VERY skilled positions to open yet another top notch division for some new secret MMO,so they are going to match that "so called "SECRET mmo of Blizzard easily and still maintain TONS more quality production,all the while still maintaining JOINT ventures.It is SIMPLE to see who the professional developer is and the one that operates like an amateur.Blizza is TRYING hard to keep up with the jones,but they are just poorly organized,they are trying to enter the multi platform market,but imo they are just going to copy and follow others,they have no leadership. One needs to look back at the FFVII days,that developer was nearing bankruptcy,they were as good as dead,then FFVII saved them.The difference here from them and Blizzard ,is that Blizzard remained stagnant,they just continued to ride their coat tails on the same products year after year,while Square took those small profits and expanded their operation 10 fold,and are now leaving Blizzard in their dust.
Once again; this has nothing to do with Blizzard. It's all Activision!
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Originally posted by nyxium I'm not buying Cataclysm unless WoW gets guild housing and / or personal housing sorted out and implemented. I don't give two shits about the latest epic sword gear drop in a 25 man raid which I probably will never play, or the latest stuffed pet toy which has an ingame code, or the frosty crimson deathcharger mount that has an extremely low drop rate from the Lich King's sisters friends chambermaid toilet cleaner Boss. Put in more social aspects of the game to bring you up to spec with others like RoM and LotRO, Blizz. It looks like you do need my cash after all. If Activision go down, it will knock into Blizz's accounts due to merging. They can never have enough money, it seems.
Screw personal housing. That's soooo.....2000. I want a personal airship. With cannons. And gnomes being used as ammunition.
I'm not buying Cataclysm unless WoW gets guild housing and / or personal housing sorted out and implemented. I don't give two shits about the latest epic sword gear drop in a 25 man raid which I probably will never play, or the latest stuffed pet toy which has an ingame code, or the frosty crimson deathcharger mount that has an extremely low drop rate from the Lich King's sisters friends chambermaid toilet cleaner Boss.
Put in more social aspects of the game to bring you up to spec with others like RoM and LotRO, Blizz. It looks like you do need my cash after all. If Activision go down, it will knock into Blizz's accounts due to merging. They can never have enough money, it seems.
Screw personal housing. That's soooo.....2000. I want a personal airship. With cannons. And gnomes being used as ammunition.
As long as you have Tauren cannoneer that "punt" the gnomes at their enemies rather than blast them in cannons.
Valentines Day week... is Halloween off limits for firing staff as well? How about Australia Day? Or The Queen of England's Birthday.
It is sad that they have lost their jobs and I hope they find new work quickly. At least they will have some good games to their names. What Valentines day has to do with any of it I do not know.
I have said on MANY occasions that Blizzard just like Vivendi is a horrible spender,running extreme costs far above other developers but producing far less.Not only do they not produce very much,but all their products are low tech,their projects SHOULD carry far cheaper production costs,but they are just bad at spending money. I would agree they are banking on Cataclysm but SC2?no way,SC2 is a pile of junk,it is the exact same as SC1 super old game,all they are doing is adding shaders and some lighting,.I already pointed out ,that adding shaders and lighting to junk graphics will not help the game at all.Blizzard is just full of inept people,all they are capable of is low scale projects,but people will play them and claim FUN,when in reality,they are simplistic designs that would only keep the interest of a teenager that is just getting into gaming. Instead of wasting all that money that WOW made them,they should have hired some real skilled leaders and create their own game engine,one that rivals the UE3,Cry engine ect ect.They should quit hiring outside help,witch again is a waste of money,unless they feel their own resources are that bad that it is cheaper to hire outside,in witch case,layoffs were long overdue. In comparison,Square Enix already has at minimum7+ gaming divisions,and are now "hiring" some VERY skilled positions to open yet another top notch division for some new secret MMO,so they are going to match that "so called "SECRET mmo of Blizzard easily and still maintain TONS more quality production,all the while still maintaining JOINT ventures.It is SIMPLE to see who the professional developer is and the one that operates like an amateur.Blizza is TRYING hard to keep up with the jones,but they are just poorly organized,they are trying to enter the multi platform market,but imo they are just going to copy and follow others,they have no leadership. One needs to look back at the FFVII days,that developer was nearing bankruptcy,they were as good as dead,then FFVII saved them.The difference here from them and Blizzard ,is that Blizzard remained stagnant,they just continued to ride their coat tails on the same products year after year,while Square took those small profits and expanded their operation 10 fold,and are now leaving Blizzard in their dust.
Once again; this has nothing to do with Blizzard. It's all Activision!
That's the freedom of the internet.
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We try pointing but it is really pointless... there must be people drinking and feasting thinking it's the next step towards WoW death or something like that, because they've seen "Blizzard" on the thread title.
I'm actually impressed on what Blizzard can do thanks to their games - developed their own anti-cheating tool Warden, are developing their own beast of a cross-gaming platform, Battle.Net 2. And it's not like they pump 100 games an year to achieve or even need that...
Valentines Day week... is Halloween off limits for firing staff as well? How about Australia Day? Or The Queen of England's Birthday. It is sad that they have lost their jobs and I hope they find new work quickly. At least they will have some good games to their names. What Valentines day has to do with any of it I do not know.
Lol, was about to post this.
Best of luck to the jobless folks, but really, a made-up Hallmark holiday has what bearing on this situation?
One day you will be all grown up and these words will echo in your head when you're "downsized" a week before Christmas with three kids to feed and a mortgage to pay.
It's good news when a company seeks to cut costs through increased efficiencies and downsizing through attrition. When a company downsizes through layoffs it means they are not making enough revenue to justify the production expenses; and that's BAD news. Take the human element out of it and think of it this way: each person was hired because they possessed certain skills deemed valuable to the company. When they cut those people, they were basically saying "we can sacrifice this capability for cash on hand." In other words, "we need cash now, and we're ok lessening what we can do as a company to get it." I've seen upper echelon companies destroyed through repeated rounds of cuts. Not saying this will cripple Activision, but cuts always hurt a company eventually, regardless of what the bottom line says today.
If I was ever downsized I would know it was my fault and I really wasn't needed as much as a peer that wasn't given a pink slip. I would already know going in that I'm not owed a job and it could be gone anytime. If you work in any business environment you should already know that most companies are run with a tremendous amount of waste and should be downsized.
Sources: http://www.joystiq.com/2010/02/11/luxoflux-shuttered-as-layoffs-hit-activision-dev-studios-publis/ and : http://www.newsmeat.com/news/meat.php?articleId=68850164&channelId=2951&buyerId=newsmeatcom&buid=3281 Happy Valentines Day! You're Fired! This weekend won't be so happy for many former Blizzard/Activision employees. Aparently Activision has seen a 4th Quarter loss of 286 million. So, as a result of the losses the company has decided to cut ties with various studios or projects. Those affected are Luxoflux (Transformers), which saw a complete shut down. Radical Entertainment and Neversoft saw up to half of their staff get cut back as well (Guitar Hero, Prototype, Tony Hawk). This is after news that Guitar Hero sales have whimpered, even though it is one game the company banks on, in addition to COD and WoW. And why, dare you ask, did they fire so many? " we are directing our resources against the largest and most profitable business segments, and as part of this initiative, we are realigning our resources to better reflect our slate and the market opportunities" This sounds like they relying more heavily on Cataclysm and Starcraft 2 at this point. Starcraft 2 is going into Beta this month, and Cataclysm is slated for a 2010 release (probably early fall). However the fact that they fired so many so close to Valentine's Day seems cruel, not to mention they referred to their hard working Dev's as 'resources.' Still want to work for Blizzard? (http://us.blizzard.com/en-us/company/careers/) There ya go
yep!activision beginning to be its good old self just like before,but now they will bring blizzard with them in their financial problem
activision loosing money ,lol tell us something we dont know!every company that owned blizzard leached blizzard
the only thing all those that buy blizzard want is send in their own employe .i do hope blizzard will always say NO TY as fiercly as
they can,in my book if you cant make a success in activision you cant make a success either in wow
too stressed at activision poor poor goblin!go buy a cat if your too stressed because you dont know what gamer want
activision is staining wow .soon blizzard will also loose customer the same way activision!for the same reason
If I was ever downsized I would know it was my fault and I really wasn't needed as much as a peer that wasn't given a pink slip. I would already know going in that I'm not owed a job and it could be gone anytime. If you work in any business environment you should already know that most companies are run with a tremendous amount of waste and should be downsized.
You're ignorant.
News flash. You can get laid off for reasons that aren't your own.
This is not even close to being truth. It is your fault if you get laid off because it was you that applied for employment. If you are an employee it is always your fault. You chose to be an employee and this choice carries consequences, one of which is the possibility of becoming unemployed at any point in time. Downsizing is always good news.
I can understand that with choices 'can' come consequences. But to say that it is that persons fault is probably pushing it. I am sure that many of those in the studios mentioned were great workers who put forth their heart and soul into the games they made. Considering Activision more then likely looks for the best and brightest, it is sad that these employess were laid off. I doubt seriously it was their fault, and bet they were hoping for a long career in their positions.
Of course anyone working anywhere has to realistically plan for the unthinkable. It is always good to update one's resume even while employed and look to add new skills as well as view the job market to stay up to date.
Do not try to be a great gamer, just be a gamer. Cause, I don't care how good you are anyway.
If I was ever downsized I would know it was my fault and I really wasn't needed as much as a peer that wasn't given a pink slip. I would already know going in that I'm not owed a job and it could be gone anytime. If you work in any business environment you should already know that most companies are run with a tremendous amount of waste and should be downsized.
You're ignorant.
News flash. You can get laid off for reasons that aren't your own.
This is not even close to being truth. It is your fault if you get laid off because it was you that applied for employment. If you are an employee it is always your fault. You chose to be an employee and this choice carries consequences, one of which is the possibility of becoming unemployed at any point in time. Downsizing is always good news.
I can understand that with choices 'can' come consequences. But to say that it is that persons fault is probably pushing it. I am sure that many of those in the studios mentioned were great workers who put forth their heart and soul into the games they made. Considering Activision more then likely looks for the best and brightest, it is sad that these employess were laid off. I doubt seriously it was their fault, and bet they were hoping for a long career in their positions.
Of course anyone working anywhere has to realistically plan for the unthinkable. It is always good to update one's resume even while employed and look to add new skills as well as view the job market to stay up to date.
Bill Roper mismanaging FSS's money, allowing the company to financially fall to it's doom, and then mass firing almost the entire company comes to mind. Or do you still blame the employees for applying to FSS to begin with... I suppose it can be both, or that the choices we make in life are tied it to fate somewhat? Still hard to say that in FSS case it seems hardly fair to blame them for Bill's lack of experience in running a company.
Well people can argue all they want, but the important thing here is that hundreds of people who had good jobs got fired. That could mean hundreds of families that are now in trouble.
Look at the big picture here.
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so you have no sympathy whatsoever for people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own? Your statement of downsizing is always good is false by the way. It is an easy way out for organizations and a lot of times it doesn't make a difference in the fortunes of that company. After 2001 all major airlines had significant losses. All of them except for one cut staff and had massive layoffs, or downsized as you would call it. There was one that didn't do this and now guess which airline has had the most profits and is rated as one of the top companies to work for in the United States?
some at activision are good ,but men some have been there for decade and activision is seeing or will see soon
the boss at acti isnt dum.i bet he receiving countless letter from his sprecialist saying send us to blizzard send us to blizzard
and acti boss is probably thinging why the fuck would i go screw a winning receipy ,hes probably wondering how to skem his way into rubbing wow success into some of his lame employe.
but like i say some area are good guitar hero,probably other but they dont outweight the bad activision has to get rid of their lame employe and that will be hard to do !why?they are very high up the food chain
yes they can send them 2 year unemployed and say they arent qualified very easy to do countless company do it but the fact is
there are too many of them .the only door out left for acti is new techno
like use silverlight(microsoft)to do new browser game in 64 bit explorer.
or other techno but letting his employe sitting at starbuck isnt gona cut it for acti.techno will
send them to school at least they ll learn stuff !yes its worth it !because frankly the way it is now they are asking for closing activision and the boss tranfer all to blizzard(beurk)
so you have no sympathy whatsoever for people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own? Your statement of downsizing is always good is false by the way. It is an easy way out for organizations and a lot of times it doesn't make a difference in the fortunes of that company. After 2001 all major airlines had significant losses. All of them except for one cut staff and had massive layoffs, or downsized as you would call it. There was one that didn't do this and now guess which airline has had the most profits and is rated as one of the top companies to work for in the United States?
When talking about business the word sympathy should never be used.
Well people can argue all they want, but the important thing here is that hundreds of people who had good jobs got fired. That could mean hundreds of families that are now in trouble.
Look at the big picture here.
I agree . Hopefully they will find positions elsewhere soon .
Please do your best to avoid personal attacks on other users and stay on the topic of the thread. Might I remind you all to read our Rules of Conduct before posting.
so you have no sympathy whatsoever for people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own? Your statement of downsizing is always good is false by the way. It is an easy way out for organizations and a lot of times it doesn't make a difference in the fortunes of that company. After 2001 all major airlines had significant losses. All of them except for one cut staff and had massive layoffs, or downsized as you would call it. There was one that didn't do this and now guess which airline has had the most profits and is rated as one of the top companies to work for in the United States?
When talking about business the word sympathy should never be used.
I'll agree to that. The business world is very cut throat.
On topic: Sucks that activision had to do that to so many people right at valentines day. Down right mean if ya ask me.
1. Associating Blizzard's name with a holding company decision seems a little mean and irrelevant
2. Celebrating people's job losses is not a nice thing, by and large the rank and file get culled not due to their incompetence but thanks to the competence of their managers (or more precisely lack thereof)
3. Acting like this will suddenly bring improvements to the gaming world at large, or WoW, or kill WoW off is incredibly naive
4. Valentine's day is a red herring, it's not even a holiday, it is however Chinese New Year today too, and that too is utterly irrelevant
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It's good news when a company seeks to cut costs through increased efficiencies and downsizing through attrition. When a company downsizes through layoffs it means they are not making enough revenue to justify the production expenses; and that's BAD news. Take the human element out of it and think of it this way: each person was hired because they possessed certain skills deemed valuable to the company. When they cut those people, they were basically saying "we can sacrifice this capability for cash on hand." In other words, "we need cash now, and we're ok lessening what we can do as a company to get it." I've seen upper echelon companies destroyed through repeated rounds of cuts. Not saying this will cripple Activision, but cuts always hurt a company eventually, regardless of what the bottom line says today.
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I have said on MANY occasions that Blizzard just like Vivendi is a horrible spender,running extreme costs far above other developers but producing far less.Not only do they not produce very much,but all their products are low tech,their projects SHOULD carry far cheaper production costs,but they are just bad at spending money.
I would agree they are banking on Cataclysm but SC2?no way,SC2 is a pile of junk,it is the exact same as SC1 super old game,all they are doing is adding shaders and some lighting,.I already pointed out ,that adding shaders and lighting to junk graphics will not help the game at all.Blizzard is just full of inept people,all they are capable of is low scale projects,but people will play them and claim FUN,when in reality,they are simplistic designs that would only keep the interest of a teenager that is just getting into gaming.
Instead of wasting all that money that WOW made them,they should have hired some real skilled leaders and create their own game engine,one that rivals the UE3,Cry engine ect ect.They should quit hiring outside help,witch again is a waste of money,unless they feel their own resources are that bad that it is cheaper to hire outside,in witch case,layoffs were long overdue.
In comparison,Square Enix already has at minimum7+ gaming divisions,and are now "hiring" some VERY skilled positions to open yet another top notch division for some new secret MMO,so they are going to match that "so called "SECRET mmo of Blizzard easily and still maintain TONS more quality production,all the while still maintaining JOINT ventures.It is SIMPLE to see who the professional developer is and the one that operates like an amateur.Blizza is TRYING hard to keep up with the jones,but they are just poorly organized,they are trying to enter the multi platform market,but imo they are just going to copy and follow others,they have no leadership.
One needs to look back at the FFVII days,that developer was nearing bankruptcy,they were as good as dead,then FFVII saved them.The difference here from them and Blizzard ,is that Blizzard remained stagnant,they just continued to ride their coat tails on the same products year after year,while Square took those small profits and expanded their operation 10 fold,and are now leaving Blizzard in their dust.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Once again; this has nothing to do with Blizzard. It's all Activision!
Once again; this has nothing to do with Blizzard. It's all Activision!
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Screw personal housing. That's soooo.....2000. I want a personal airship. With cannons. And gnomes being used as ammunition.
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Screw personal housing. That's soooo.....2000. I want a personal airship. With cannons. And gnomes being used as ammunition.
As long as you have Tauren cannoneer that "punt" the gnomes at their enemies rather than blast them in cannons.
Valentines Day week... is Halloween off limits for firing staff as well? How about Australia Day? Or The Queen of England's Birthday.
It is sad that they have lost their jobs and I hope they find new work quickly. At least they will have some good games to their names. What Valentines day has to do with any of it I do not know.
Once again; this has nothing to do with Blizzard. It's all Activision!
That's the freedom of the internet.
No one can read and about anyone can type ...
You know it, I know it, but Wizardry just keeps typing.
We try pointing but it is really pointless... there must be people drinking and feasting thinking it's the next step towards WoW death or something like that, because they've seen "Blizzard" on the thread title.
I'm actually impressed on what Blizzard can do thanks to their games - developed their own anti-cheating tool Warden, are developing their own beast of a cross-gaming platform, Battle.Net 2. And it's not like they pump 100 games an year to achieve or even need that...
Lol, was about to post this.
Best of luck to the jobless folks, but really, a made-up Hallmark holiday has what bearing on this situation?
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One day you will be all grown up and these words will echo in your head when you're "downsized" a week before Christmas with three kids to feed and a mortgage to pay.
It's good news when a company seeks to cut costs through increased efficiencies and downsizing through attrition. When a company downsizes through layoffs it means they are not making enough revenue to justify the production expenses; and that's BAD news. Take the human element out of it and think of it this way: each person was hired because they possessed certain skills deemed valuable to the company. When they cut those people, they were basically saying "we can sacrifice this capability for cash on hand." In other words, "we need cash now, and we're ok lessening what we can do as a company to get it." I've seen upper echelon companies destroyed through repeated rounds of cuts. Not saying this will cripple Activision, but cuts always hurt a company eventually, regardless of what the bottom line says today.
If I was ever downsized I would know it was my fault and I really wasn't needed as much as a peer that wasn't given a pink slip. I would already know going in that I'm not owed a job and it could be gone anytime. If you work in any business environment you should already know that most companies are run with a tremendous amount of waste and should be downsized.
yep!activision beginning to be its good old self just like before,but now they will bring blizzard with them in their financial problem
activision loosing money ,lol tell us something we dont know!every company that owned blizzard leached blizzard
the only thing all those that buy blizzard want is send in their own employe .i do hope blizzard will always say NO TY as fiercly as
they can,in my book if you cant make a success in activision you cant make a success either in wow
too stressed at activision poor poor goblin!go buy a cat if your too stressed because you dont know what gamer want
activision is staining wow .soon blizzard will also loose customer the same way activision!for the same reason
activision iissue!
Learn to read folks, don't just go by the subject line. Shows you how many people respond before even reading the article in question.
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Have you ever had a job in your life, mmolova?
I've never been unemployed.
You're ignorant.
News flash. You can get laid off for reasons that aren't your own.
This is not even close to being truth. It is your fault if you get laid off because it was you that applied for employment. If you are an employee it is always your fault. You chose to be an employee and this choice carries consequences, one of which is the possibility of becoming unemployed at any point in time. Downsizing is always good news.
I can understand that with choices 'can' come consequences. But to say that it is that persons fault is probably pushing it. I am sure that many of those in the studios mentioned were great workers who put forth their heart and soul into the games they made. Considering Activision more then likely looks for the best and brightest, it is sad that these employess were laid off. I doubt seriously it was their fault, and bet they were hoping for a long career in their positions.
Of course anyone working anywhere has to realistically plan for the unthinkable. It is always good to update one's resume even while employed and look to add new skills as well as view the job market to stay up to date.
Do not try to be a great gamer, just be a gamer. Cause, I don't care how good you are anyway.
You're ignorant.
News flash. You can get laid off for reasons that aren't your own.
This is not even close to being truth. It is your fault if you get laid off because it was you that applied for employment. If you are an employee it is always your fault. You chose to be an employee and this choice carries consequences, one of which is the possibility of becoming unemployed at any point in time. Downsizing is always good news.
I can understand that with choices 'can' come consequences. But to say that it is that persons fault is probably pushing it. I am sure that many of those in the studios mentioned were great workers who put forth their heart and soul into the games they made. Considering Activision more then likely looks for the best and brightest, it is sad that these employess were laid off. I doubt seriously it was their fault, and bet they were hoping for a long career in their positions.
Of course anyone working anywhere has to realistically plan for the unthinkable. It is always good to update one's resume even while employed and look to add new skills as well as view the job market to stay up to date.
Bill Roper mismanaging FSS's money, allowing the company to financially fall to it's doom, and then mass firing almost the entire company comes to mind. Or do you still blame the employees for applying to FSS to begin with... I suppose it can be both, or that the choices we make in life are tied it to fate somewhat? Still hard to say that in FSS case it seems hardly fair to blame them for Bill's lack of experience in running a company.
Well people can argue all they want, but the important thing here is that hundreds of people who had good jobs got fired. That could mean hundreds of families that are now in trouble.
Look at the big picture here.
Purpose in life is not to gain things, but experience. - Rover64dd
I've never been unemployed.
so you have no sympathy whatsoever for people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own? Your statement of downsizing is always good is false by the way. It is an easy way out for organizations and a lot of times it doesn't make a difference in the fortunes of that company. After 2001 all major airlines had significant losses. All of them except for one cut staff and had massive layoffs, or downsized as you would call it. There was one that didn't do this and now guess which airline has had the most profits and is rated as one of the top companies to work for in the United States?
some at activision are good ,but men some have been there for decade and activision is seeing or will see soon
the boss at acti isnt dum.i bet he receiving countless letter from his sprecialist saying send us to blizzard send us to blizzard
and acti boss is probably thinging why the fuck would i go screw a winning receipy ,hes probably wondering how to skem his way into rubbing wow success into some of his lame employe.
but like i say some area are good guitar hero,probably other but they dont outweight the bad activision has to get rid of their lame employe and that will be hard to do !why?they are very high up the food chain
yes they can send them 2 year unemployed and say they arent qualified very easy to do countless company do it but the fact is
there are too many of them .the only door out left for acti is new techno
like use silverlight(microsoft)to do new browser game in 64 bit explorer.
or other techno but letting his employe sitting at starbuck isnt gona cut it for acti.techno will
send them to school at least they ll learn stuff !yes its worth it !because frankly the way it is now they are asking for closing activision and the boss tranfer all to blizzard(beurk)
I've never been unemployed.
so you have no sympathy whatsoever for people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own? Your statement of downsizing is always good is false by the way. It is an easy way out for organizations and a lot of times it doesn't make a difference in the fortunes of that company. After 2001 all major airlines had significant losses. All of them except for one cut staff and had massive layoffs, or downsized as you would call it. There was one that didn't do this and now guess which airline has had the most profits and is rated as one of the top companies to work for in the United States?
When talking about business the word sympathy should never be used.
I agree . Hopefully they will find positions elsewhere soon
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I've never been unemployed.
so you have no sympathy whatsoever for people who have lost their jobs through no fault of their own? Your statement of downsizing is always good is false by the way. It is an easy way out for organizations and a lot of times it doesn't make a difference in the fortunes of that company. After 2001 all major airlines had significant losses. All of them except for one cut staff and had massive layoffs, or downsized as you would call it. There was one that didn't do this and now guess which airline has had the most profits and is rated as one of the top companies to work for in the United States?
When talking about business the word sympathy should never be used.
I'll agree to that. The business world is very cut throat.
On topic: Sucks that activision had to do that to so many people right at valentines day. Down right mean if ya ask me.
There's a lot of ugliness in this thread...
1. Associating Blizzard's name with a holding company decision seems a little mean and irrelevant
2. Celebrating people's job losses is not a nice thing, by and large the rank and file get culled not due to their incompetence but thanks to the competence of their managers (or more precisely lack thereof)
3. Acting like this will suddenly bring improvements to the gaming world at large, or WoW, or kill WoW off is incredibly naive
4. Valentine's day is a red herring, it's not even a holiday, it is however Chinese New Year today too, and that too is utterly irrelevant