So we have warp speed figured out, but how do we get gravity on the ship so that the crew walks around vs. floating around?
There are other forces which give the impression of gravity that don't have the issues with mass, most notably used is centrifuge. This obviously is not the case in ST however. Maybe the hadron colider will shed some light in this area, the future ability to manipulate higgs-boson, even alter it in some way.
----- The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
I guess no one told the article writer that they travel in a "sub-space" bubble when they travel at warp.
and yet nobody complains about the lack of realism in superhero or fantasy games.... or is magic more believable than FTL travel ?
Considering the fact that there bis so much we don't know about the universe, there is room to fudge a bit when it comes to things like this. Don't believe me? Just look up quantum mechanics, string theory, dark matter and dark energy. After you've researched these subjects tell me that the idea of "sub-space" is as realistic as raising someone from the dead using a spell and mana.
I guess no one told the article writer that they travel in a "sub-space" bubble when they travel at warp.
and yet nobody complains about the lack of realism in superhero or fantasy games.... or is magic more believable than FTL travel ?
Considering the fact that there bis so much we don't know about the universe, there is room to fudge a bit when it comes to things like this. Don't believe me? Just look up quantum mechanics, string theory, dark matter and dark energy. After you've researched these subjects tell me that the idea of "sub-space" is as realistic as raising someone from the dead using a spell and mana.
dark matter is an interesting one, because its existence is not yet proven, which may be due to the fact that it may be made up of matter which doesnt react readily to other matter, making detection difficult, as for sub space, or even extra dimensional rifts etc as scientific knowledge progresses, who knows what will be found..
it's star trek technobabble they were hardly consistent. i don't think that theoretical warp physics and star trek physics are the same thing. I also recall several episodes where the ship couldn't jump into warp with the inertial dampeners malfunctioning, actually i think they killed some bad guys this way once.
And that is where the confusion is. I'm talking actual Theoretical Physics not Star Trek Physics. They are similar but there are some drastic differences. Gene Roddenberry used a lot of actual Scientific Theories when he originally created Star Trek but there has been a lot of artistic license taken since the original episode aired back in 1966.
Warp Travel is theoretically possible and although similar to Star Trek there would be some noticeable differences. In Warp Theory a Warp Bubble of Space-Time is created around a ship. This bubble has it's own separate laws of physics that govern what happens inside of it. Inside of the bubble the ship would seem to be stationary even though the bubble itself may traveling at many times the speed of light. It's the bubble that is moving and not the ship. The ship is just sort of along for the ride so to speak. The Warp Bubble is like a subset of Physics that is separated from the universe around it. This is also how it can travel at speeds greater than Light Speed without breaking the almighty universal Law of Physics, E=MC^2.
So we have warp speed figured out, but how do we get gravity on the ship so that the crew walks around vs. floating around?
There are other forces which give the impression of gravity that don't have the issues with mass, most notably used is centrifuge. This obviously is not the case in ST however. Maybe the hadron colider will shed some light in this area, the future ability to manipulate higgs-boson, even alter it in some way.
Yes and besides Gravity is the one of the four Universal Forces that we know the least about. We know the effects gravity has on mass and we know that it is generated by mass but we have very little understanding of the mechanics of how it's generated. Magnetism, the weak and the strong Nuclear Forces we know loads about and that they are about equal in strength but Gravity is very weak by comparison. This can be tested by the simple fact that a normal refrigerator magnet can defeat the gravitational pull of the entire Earth on an object. We are getting closer to an answer however. Researchers have devised a theory using the extra Dimension that M Theory affords us by explaining that gravity is either leaking into or out of another dimension and all that we see is the leftovers so to speak.
When we gain a full understanding of Gravity artificially generated Gravity will be but one of many possible benefits from this research. The most interesting benefit will be Anti-Gravity that will allow us to finally make all those flying cars everyone seems to want so badly. I know I want mine... WHERE'S MY FLYING CAR DAMN IT!!!
because magic (or the Force) don't pretend to have relevance in the real world, which is why religions are being debunked every day but not biology of ewoks nor the physics behind Professor X screwing the Intergalactic Queen Lilandra.
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Magnetic floors and shoes, at least for the crew to walk around.
There are other forces which give the impression of gravity that don't have the issues with mass, most notably used is centrifuge. This obviously is not the case in ST however. Maybe the hadron colider will shed some light in this area, the future ability to manipulate higgs-boson, even alter it in some way.
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The person who is certain, and who claims divine warrant for his certainty, belongs now to the infancy of our species.
and yet nobody complains about the lack of realism in superhero or fantasy games.... or is magic more believable than FTL travel ?
Considering the fact that there bis so much we don't know about the universe, there is room to fudge a bit when it comes to things like this. Don't believe me? Just look up quantum mechanics, string theory, dark matter and dark energy. After you've researched these subjects tell me that the idea of "sub-space" is as realistic as raising someone from the dead using a spell and mana.
and yet nobody complains about the lack of realism in superhero or fantasy games.... or is magic more believable than FTL travel ?
Considering the fact that there bis so much we don't know about the universe, there is room to fudge a bit when it comes to things like this. Don't believe me? Just look up quantum mechanics, string theory, dark matter and dark energy. After you've researched these subjects tell me that the idea of "sub-space" is as realistic as raising someone from the dead using a spell and mana.
dark matter is an interesting one, because its existence is not yet proven, which may be due to the fact that it may be made up of matter which doesnt react readily to other matter, making detection difficult, as for sub space, or even extra dimensional rifts etc as scientific knowledge progresses, who knows what will be found..
And that is where the confusion is. I'm talking actual Theoretical Physics not Star Trek Physics. They are similar but there are some drastic differences. Gene Roddenberry used a lot of actual Scientific Theories when he originally created Star Trek but there has been a lot of artistic license taken since the original episode aired back in 1966.
Warp Travel is theoretically possible and although similar to Star Trek there would be some noticeable differences. In Warp Theory a Warp Bubble of Space-Time is created around a ship. This bubble has it's own separate laws of physics that govern what happens inside of it. Inside of the bubble the ship would seem to be stationary even though the bubble itself may traveling at many times the speed of light. It's the bubble that is moving and not the ship. The ship is just sort of along for the ride so to speak. The Warp Bubble is like a subset of Physics that is separated from the universe around it. This is also how it can travel at speeds greater than Light Speed without breaking the almighty universal Law of Physics, E=MC^2.
Bren
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warp_drive
That is the exact same article I linked to in my original post in this thread.
Bren
while(horse==dead)
{
beat();
}
There are other forces which give the impression of gravity that don't have the issues with mass, most notably used is centrifuge. This obviously is not the case in ST however. Maybe the hadron colider will shed some light in this area, the future ability to manipulate higgs-boson, even alter it in some way.
Yes and besides Gravity is the one of the four Universal Forces that we know the least about. We know the effects gravity has on mass and we know that it is generated by mass but we have very little understanding of the mechanics of how it's generated. Magnetism, the weak and the strong Nuclear Forces we know loads about and that they are about equal in strength but Gravity is very weak by comparison. This can be tested by the simple fact that a normal refrigerator magnet can defeat the gravitational pull of the entire Earth on an object. We are getting closer to an answer however. Researchers have devised a theory using the extra Dimension that M Theory affords us by explaining that gravity is either leaking into or out of another dimension and all that we see is the leftovers so to speak.
When we gain a full understanding of Gravity artificially generated Gravity will be but one of many possible benefits from this research. The most interesting benefit will be Anti-Gravity that will allow us to finally make all those flying cars everyone seems to want so badly.
I know I want mine... WHERE'S MY FLYING CAR DAMN IT!!! 
Bren
while(horse==dead)
{
beat();
}
Mmmmmm. Lilandra . . .
That's what this game is lacking. The Shi'ar!