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What if Final Fantasy XIV sucks?

Syno23Syno23 Member UncommonPosts: 1,360

Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.

I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?

Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?



I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.



Guess we'll wait and see...

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  • IronfungusIronfungus Member Posts: 519
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    Glitches / bugs are something I can tolerate in a game period, not just MMOs. If it, fundamentally, has issues and core problems (overall unpolished) then no, I will not play.

    But all they need to do is make a modernized, sped up (control wise) version of FFXI, and you have a successful game. But they're going to be giving us much more than that. But if it does turn out to definitely "suck" then I'll pass it up, just like those other MMOs who suffered similar fates (RF Online, Warhammer Online, Champions Online, Aion, Star Trek Online).

    I respect Final Fantasy XI and all that it did, because fundamentally, it was correct. But I couldn't fully engross myself due to the sheer archaic gameplay and movement. I could deal with the time it took you to level (in fact, I encourage it in future games), but the gameplay itself was just a little uninspiring. That's the ONLY problem I had with it.

    But that doesn't look like it's going to be a problem in FFXIV, based on the videos we've seen so far. So, like I said, if they can give us basically everything they gave FFXI, but a better version then there would be no reason to not play it.

  • VesaviusVesavius Member RarePosts: 7,908
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...



     

    Well, for one, 'failure' is a subjective term in the case of MMORPGs. One man's meat is another man's poison after all. Vanguard isnt a failure to me. After a rocky launch it's actually a great game in my eyes thats at this time being kept from finding it's true audience only by SOE. AoC also released in what many would call a 'broken' state and imo it's a great game today.

    If FFXIV releases with really severe technical problems I would probably just give it time and see what happens to it in the 6 months following. IF SE behaved like NCS have done with Aion I would keep well away.

    None if this is really my worry with this game though.. on the technical side of things I have no fear SE can deliver. My fear is that in chasing the mass market they have watered the game down into a solo ez mode pay to win (MT) quest grinder.

    Like you say, we will see...

     

  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230

    Im doubting it will suck but its always possible it wont live up to my extremely high standards.  :)

    If that happens I will await GW2.

  • Second2LastSecond2Last Member Posts: 40
    Originally posted by svann


    Im doubting it will suck but its always possible it wont live up to my extremely high standards.  :)
    If that happens I will await GW2.

     

    Exactly my thinking, right now I'm just hoping for the best!

  • DewmDewm Member UncommonPosts: 1,337
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    HAHAHA EPIC FAIL!!!!

     

    You couldn't even retype what I already posted? you like,...copy and pasted it word for word...

     

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/3756-will-you-still-play-it-if-it-sucks/

     

    *shakes head* 

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  • DistopiaDistopia Member EpicPosts: 21,183
    Originally posted by Dewm

    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    HAHAHA EPIC FAIL!!!!

     

    You couldn't even retype what I already posted? you like,...copy and pasted it word for word...

     

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/3756-will-you-still-play-it-if-it-sucks/

     

    *shakes head* 

    That would be so weird, LOL. Did it take a few minutes to sink in or was it an instant WTF?

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  • RajenRajen Member Posts: 689
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

     

    I will definitely be upset if it doesn't do very well. I've been looking for something new to play for a very long time.

    The game will make or break with me depending on how long things take... example would be... Me having to sit at my desk for 6 hours straight. I can't do that stuff anymore like I could in FFXI since I have grown up and finished college.

    So yeah... I'll probably like the game as long as I can just log on and off at my leisure and still somewhat progress.

  • linrenlinren Member Posts: 578

    When it comes to SE generally polish and stability is really not so much an issue, but who knows.

    Not enough information for even a far-fetched guess yet anyways, but lets say if FFXIV turns out to be a mediocre game, it probably will still have a healthy amount of subscriber to keep it going for years.  The chance of actually failing badly or SE having to pull the plug is so low that it would actually be surprising if it happen.

    Of course the above guess is totally based on track records of SE and FFXI, but as we know in MMORPG industry track records doesn't make a good basis for anything much less a guess.

  • GaurnGaurn Member Posts: 305

    Plagerism FYL OP.

  • OmrieOmrie Member UncommonPosts: 116
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    Well, *for me*... I'm going to play it no matter what. This is the game I've been waiting for, there won't be anything else after that.

  • SimsuSimsu Member UncommonPosts: 386
    Originally posted by Dewm


    AHAHA EPIC FAIL!!!!
    You couldn't even retype what I already posted? you like,...copy and pasted it word for word...
    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/3756-will-you-still-play-it-if-it-sucks/
    *shakes head* 

     

    rofl... That's pretty hilarious.

  • FearGXFearGX Member Posts: 317

  • linrenlinren Member Posts: 578
    Originally posted by Fearlessbro



     

    Unless you are a Mythbuster.

  • toddzetoddze Member UncommonPosts: 2,150
    Originally posted by Simsu

    Originally posted by Dewm


    AHAHA EPIC FAIL!!!!
    You couldn't even retype what I already posted? you like,...copy and pasted it word for word...
    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/3756-will-you-still-play-it-if-it-sucks/
    *shakes head* 

     

    rofl... That's pretty hilarious.

    hahah

     

    But to answer YOUR question dewm if it fails, ill be done with mmos most likely because theres nothing worth playing that we know about.

    Waiting for:EQ-Next, ArcheAge (not so much anymore)
    Now Playing: N/A
    Worst MMO: FFXIV
    Favorite MMO: FFXI

  • DewmDewm Member UncommonPosts: 1,337
    Originally posted by Malickie

    Originally posted by Dewm

    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    HAHAHA EPIC FAIL!!!!

     

    You couldn't even retype what I already posted? you like,...copy and pasted it word for word...

     

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/3756-will-you-still-play-it-if-it-sucks/

     

    *shakes head* 

    That would be so weird, LOL. Did it take a few minutes to sink in or was it an instant WTF?

     

    Well I clicked on the thread name thinking "huh I made one like this" and I got about half way through and I was like.........Wait a second...

     

    I had to go look up my old post, couldn't remember it word for word, but yeah lol, it is pretty sad... Coulda at least tried to re-word it.

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  • Dave08Dave08 Member UncommonPosts: 67

    I'm lucky.  I still enjoy FFXI, so if I like FFXIV better, it's win, if I don't, I stick with FFXI, still win.   After reading what is planned for FFXI, I'm not sure I even want to love FFXIV more, but I don't figure I can lose, unless I drive myself crazy playing both.

  • nennafirnennafir Member UncommonPosts: 313
    Originally posted by vesavius 
    Well, for one, 'failure' is a subjective term in the case of MMORPGs. One man's meat is another man's poison after all. Vanguard isnt a failure to me. After a rocky launch it's actually a great game in my eyes thats at this time being kept from finding it's true audience only by SOE. AoC also released in what many would call a 'broken' state and imo it's a great game today. 



     

    The only reason Vanguard isn't dead already is because of SOE.  Rose colored glasses and all that, but the fact that SOE picked it up is the only reason the servers aren't completely closed down.

    I realize there is still some anger about SWG NGE but people are getting pretty ****ing ridiculous about SOE in my opinion.

  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258

    Glitches, bugs I don't really care as long as there aren't any game breaking things. The only thing I'm really worried about is if I'll like the jobs or not. I really liked SAM, DRG, SMN, and BLM, but, as long as there is some sort of BLM type character I should be set.  But if I don't end up liking XIV I'll probably just go back to XI since XIV is the only MMO I'm looking forward to.

  • Cik_AsalinCik_Asalin Member Posts: 3,033
    Originally posted by Dewm

    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    HAHAHA EPIC FAIL!!!!

     

    You couldn't even retype what I already posted? you like,...copy and pasted it word for word...

     

    http://www.ffxivcore.com/topic/3756-will-you-still-play-it-if-it-sucks/

     

    *shakes head* 

     

    This is a first.  An OP that isnt the OP, though he is the OP of this thread, though he stole it from Dewm from another site.

  • rashherorashhero Member UncommonPosts: 510
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...

     

    Well if it sucks, I guess everyone will have to find a way to fight off all those guns pointed at their heads forcing them to play the game.

  • Robdc84Robdc84 Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...



     

    1st off its Sqaure Enix 2nd off the will have the game done awesome before release i mean bugs happen thats something we have to deal with in the mmo world, but hey its sqaure enix when was the last time u saw them royal fuck up? i mean they do but its far and few between.

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  • Linren2Linren2 Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by Robdc84

    Originally posted by Syno23


    Well we have some speculation here. I've been thinking about playing FFXIV for a long time, but now after the failure of many MMOs, I'm starting to wonder about FFXIV.
    I'm gunna play the devils advocate for a couple of minutes here. Lets say everything goes as planned, beta for 5-6 months, then release in late October, but what happens if the game sucks? If it has core issues, glitches, and un-polished. Will you still play?
    Will you wait around for it to get better and have patches? or will it become dead like vangaurd?


    I have total faith in SE, and even if the game was just HORRIBLE, i'd probably stick around because 1. it might get better, 2. I have NOTHING else to play right now, 3. I dont' know if I could go back to FFXI.


    Guess we'll wait and see...



     

    1st off its Sqaure Enix 2nd off the will have the game done awesome before release i mean bugs happen thats something we have to deal with in the mmo world, but hey its sqaure enix when was the last time u saw them royal fuck up? i mean they do but its far and few between.

     

    SE can still mess up anyways, but yeah their track record is still actually great.  I mean some of the FFXI expansion had a few issues when applied such as having PoL crowd outs when trying to activate the content, but they learned to make each one smoother than the next.

    Anyone can make mistakes, but fixing them would be nice.

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