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PC upgrade or PS3 With HDTV?
Silverune
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Ok I'm going be playing this game when its released, it's just that atm im in a position to either upgrade my current PC system to be in line with a with a system that is a lot more up to date and more powerful with a new operating system. Doing this will be more expensive than my second option but I want the best experiance from FF14.
The second option I have is to buy a new 250gb PS3 with a dedicated Hdtv 24" (OR equivalent monitor) for mainly FF14.
Need a few reccomandations.
What systems will you guys be playing FF14 on?
Current PC specs:
Intel duo core 3.2
4gb Ram
Ati 4870 (512mb) Graphics card
Windows XP
Asus MB P5K
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PC. It has more going for it in my eyes.
Computers already good enough.
Nothing wrong with your computer bro, shit doesn't upgrade as fast as it did 10 years ago.
Yeah i have to agree with this, any duo core processor can play anything with a quad in it.
iirc we are up to 8+ cores now. I haven't checked in awhile so I really wouldn't be surprised to see someone say it's at 16 or something. Nothing will use that for years to come so there is really no need.
If anything upgrade your OS - windows 7 is nicer than xp imho - but check out if your hardware is up to it (IE its certified as windows 7 compliant)
with the current spec you have being decent i would get a ps3 or better even xbox if this game can be played on xbox
why xbox?
HALO REACH!
Thanks for the feedback guys, I'll guess I'll stick with what I got and see how it runs on that first.
Get a PS3 and play on both!
Give yourself some options.
The game isn't even announced for xbox. I'm going to hold myself back on the xbox vs ps3 talk.
But I'm in the same situation as you OP. I however already have the ps3 and a 32" $700 samsung. Buttt, having played 11 on ps2 and pc I can tell you that the pc was VASTLY superior in all ways. I want to buy a new pc just to play this game. Anyone who has played 11 on both can tell you that windower for pc gives you so many useful tools. If you are only concerned with this game and nothing else, PC ftw. If you want a super entertainment console, PS3 is what you want. Blu-ray's, Games, Playstation Network, hell you can even put windows on it if you really want.
Could get a good laptop and get good quality on both aspects; that is if you don't mind watching stuff on a 19' screen.
FFXI was vastly superior on the PC due to windower, but imo that was mostly because the basic game was limited for the PS2 version, and PC players needed to get around SE's arbitrary restrictions in order to run the game like normal MMOs.
Given that XIV is developed with the PC in mind this time (and given that the PS3 is more powerful than average household PCs these days) I doubt there will actually be much difference between the platform you choose. PC tends to be more convenient for MMOs though seeing as you have access to online resources outside of the game. The PC client will likely push ahead of the PS3 one eventually as well since people will find tweaks and other ways of improving the visual quality as hardware advances.
Like others have said though your PC specs are fine. The new details this week confirmed a 512mb graphics card is sufficient to run the game.
Ur comps fine
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
You better wait for the Beta.I somehow doubt there will be a HD version,witch would be 1080p.Unless they plan to continue working on the code ,then expect a 720p copy of the PS3 version so far.IMO at high resolutions and only 720p on a PC,it will easily rival your 1080 p movies you watch on TV.
Your PC is limited by Vid card and the RAM a lot,this game will be a hog and if you expect to have lots of players and action on screen,you are going to need a real good system to maintain 30-40 fps.
It is rather obvious already,with them talking about spreading out mobs,the game IS a hog,but perhaps with less congested action they may pull it off.I would say if they release a 1080p version,definitely go for the PC,but you will need probably a 64 bit system,4+mb[8mb] ram and one of those nice PCI 2.0 version vid cards,so probably a newer mobo as well,but personally i am hoping to play on a GTX8800.
There is newer games running the slightly lower GTS 8800 and only get 8-20 fps,so it depends on congestion of action and weather or not a 1080p version,and of course view distance,FFXI had a slightly short View distance but it was also extremely limited by bandwidth.I think Square is being a touch misleading,yes you can probably play the game with an average system but probably only at 640x800 resolution.Most of us want to play 1600x1200 for sure.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
No offense to Wizardy, but i would not take his advice.
For the PC there is no 720p or 1080p , that is not how PC work. (i just finished FF12 in 1200i, which if using my ps2 would be 400i no other options, and that is with using an emulator of all things).
NO MATTER what anyone says atm upgrading to a 64bit w7 or vista will make the game run slower (less fps), however, for dx10/11 you'll have to have it. But dx 9 will look just fine (i still have not switch there has not been a game released where the quality of graphics was worth it).
Your current video card ROCKS (the 512 is not as good as the 1 gb but it still does well), its better than the 5770 (the 5770 is not even close) . You literally have to buy a 5850 or 5870 for any increase in preformence (a 5830 is better but not worth more money seeing as you have a 4870).
Your ram is not limited , in xp the most ram you can have is 3.x some , so 4 Gb is just fine (non 64 bit and thats a good thing). the trade off that 4 gb o ram runs like 6-8 GB ram in a 64bit os.
Yeah but, ff14 is not going to utilize 8 gb of ram.
1600x1200 is a non-wide resolution , that no one uses anymore and thank god for that one. 1920x1200 or 1650x1080 (true 1080p is acctually 1920x1080) are the new standard resolutions. Not that it matters.
For most modern games on pc's using the standard resolution is not a problem however lowering graphical options (textures/ lighting/ shadows/ etc) is the major way to increase fps.
Your system looks GREAT, what the cpu is it yes i know 3.2 duo but is it an e8500 ? If so why not OC to 3.8-4.0 and you'll destroy ff14. I don't reccomend OCing video cards w/o experience or confidence.
No matter your system looks fine.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
PC, yours isn't really that expensive to upgrade. You will need W7 to experience the DX10 graphics (and to use that last half a gig of ram xp can't use).
You will also need a better GFX card, currently I would go for the 5970, it is the best on the market right now but it is possible that Nvidia released something better when the game releases. A really good GFX card is somewhat expensive so you can cut it down somewhat but get at least one with a gig of ram on.
2 giggs more of ram and a Intel X-25 SSD (to have the OS and games on, then you use your old HD to keep movies and other stuff on) won't hurt either but it isn't neccesary.
And a 24" monitor doesn't really cost that much today and will get you a lot better picture than any HD TV.
I will run it on my computer:
2,66 Intel quad, 4 gigs ram (will prolly get 2 more), Nvidia 295 GTX, 24" Phiips screen and 4 raided Intel X-25 SSDs.I might change the GFX card but I need a slightly better than the current ones to bother.
The GFX card is the single most important thing in the computer to run the games.
wait for PS3 to come out with a 3D format to be able to play the new 3D movies. Games in 3D can't be far behind
Having a PS3/Xbox360 myself I would have to recommend the PC Upgrade. My wife will be playing FFXIV on the Ps3 while I play it on my PC.
Those are pretty good. Your processor is making your graphics card look bad, though. I use 2 1Gb graphics cards and my processor is a quad core 3.2 ghz, but that doesn't matter. All I would recomend is a better graphics card, hell you have the RAM for it!
Right now I think Radeon and Nvidia make the best. also, Windows 7, although I was skeptical, is much better than Vista and almost better than XP in simplicity and user friendlieness. 64 bit XP is like 140 from newegg. a high-end graphics card is about 150-300 (I know it's a large range)
suggestion: do what i did
Buy a HDMI capable monitor or a kick ass monitor and a HDMI converter (i have a converter), stick your PS3 underneath your computer (if you have room, luckily i did) and all you have to do is switch over the sound plugs when you flick between PS3 and PC.
The benefit is you can keep your computer running for things like downloads or chat and all you need to do is flick a button on your monitor and it changes over to the PS3.
All that for under the price of a new TV.
Oh and as someone said, your PC is fine dude. Unless your going into 3d modelling then anything at or above an 8800 is still perfectly fine.
MMO wish list:
-Changeable worlds
-Solid non level based game
-Sharks with lasers attached to their heads
Thank you PLZ do not upgrade your video card It is fine it preformed s at cards that cost $150.
The 5970 is a joke , its cost atm is NEVER WORTH ITS PREFORMENCE.
the 4870 is a soild card that should not be upgraded atm.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
Thank you for all the reccomendations, I've read all post with great intrest.
My processor is an E6750 2.66 that has been overclocked to 3.2 stable for the past 2 years for those that are intrested, I play my games on a Samsung 22" monitor atm in 1680x1050 Rez.
I have a very slight overclock on my Graphics card GPU clock 780 (Standard 750) Memory clock 1000 (Standard 900)
and yes in XP my computer recognizes 3.2 of my ram memory
I've decided to stick with this system and see how FF14 runs on it. I like eye candy and smoothness when playing games (Who does'nt?) so hopefully it will be good enough. Im guessing I may have to turn down shadows and not play at maximum draw distance but we will see.
I'll prolly get PC first, but might purchase both down the line. However I dunno if buying the expansions for both would be economical...
Anywyas enough about me! You're computer looks fine, though I'd say your CPU is a little dino. We have no clue what the specs are ,and looking at some of the screenshots I wouldn't be surprised if you couldn't play on max settings, but prolly notworth upgrading to a 5970, not worth 720 dollars!
My PC is pretty old so I will just stick with my PS3 and 46" LCD.
The PS3 will look extremely good as well, don't forget about its gaming capabilities, several games look just as good as top notch PC games. I know some would beg to differ but it is true, Killzone 2 looks amazing if you have a good HDTV. IF you have a good pc just stick with that UNLESS you want a PS3 anyways for other games that will be on it or that is already on it. Then go ahead and pick up a ps3 for that purpose and the blu ray player makes it worth it as well.
As I said it will look amazing on PS3, a dope PC will always look better though, but atleast with PS3 you know you won't have to ever upgrade anything to make it run better, it is gonna be flawless right out of the box.
I think I would simply try the demo or game at launch with your current hardware, though I would upgrade to Windows 7.
The PS3 version will be very good in comparison to the PC, remember Square Enix are Japanese Game company, they need a killer PS3 version at retail launch to get all those millions of Japanese to go get the game, that has to be Square's strategy for launch...get the console mmo market (however large that really is). I have 46" LCD HDTV so will go the console route for this one.