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FURY [EU] in meltdown
Catriona85
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Some facts and figures regarding Fury server. The biggest and most populated PvP server worldwide. Fury is ranked #1 worldwide in PvP according to Funcom's own statistics. Yet the server is the most unstable of all.
Some figures. Taken from the Fury forum. After patch 1.06.
Sieges have a 48% chance of crashing.
Sieges have a 100% chance of lags between impossible and virtually impossible.
Normal gameplay has a 100% chance of producing massive lagspikes making combos somewhat of a lottery. This happens irrespective of zone and/or number of people.
27% of the threads on the first page of the Fury forum have been locked.
This happened because things were getting so bad the GD himself and the senior community manager had to step in and try and calm the subscribers. They themselves had to tuck tail and run because people simply are not willing to put up with their lies and bullshit any longer.
There are also plans in the offing for the population to gather, and start deliberately crashing zones. Rioting would be a better description rather than protesting.
Funcom promised working sieges and pvp content (Towers) in 1.06. Neither has been delivered. Many hundreds of people resubscribed on the back of these promises. These people feel cheated.
Funcom now make a play on words saying that content was not "promised" - this is also a lie. Didek clearly stated Towers would be added in the 1.06 patch cycle. Now their stance is pvp content will be added "sometime after" the release of the expansion.
An expansion incidentally that offers no pvp content whatsoever in itself.
They have been pouring honey in our ear to get subscriptions renewed and then stabbing us in the back when they have made off with our loot. Like a bunch of lying thieves in the night. The peasants are in revolt on Fury as things go critical.
These are the facts. They can be verified by anyone who wishes to take the time to do so.
Tranca [RUS corp]
Comments
It's not the servers is the outdated engine that game runs on. It can't deal with numbers with the graphics AOC uses.
Actually it's not. I have seen videos from the USA where sieges are shown running on full graphics 48 v 48 people with no lag whatsoever. This simply is not possible on Fury. Even using a pc that NASA would drool at.
To make matters even worse Morrison had the audacity to come to the Fury forums and say that players on Fury were deliberately crashing sieges by using hacks. This reeks of unprofessionalism and lack of respect for your customers. Even were it true, the honest customers like myself were horrified because he pointed an accusing finger at every one of us.
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Tranca [RUS corp]
When you are building a house you start with basement, it is where you house will stand. If you do it wrong or incomplete with flaws your house will eventualy collapse. The same situation with aoc atm. For two years of gameplay i saw little change in things that was promised as main idea of this game, massive pvp for battlekeeps and open wild pvp. This thing is not working still and it is already past two years since release. Not only that as long as i remeber lag spikes was the part of the game, some things was in the game but was not finished just like T3 raids. Some classes in game still broken and it was so for years. Sieges was not working since release, it lags like hell but you could destroy enemy battlekeep (trust me i have 103 sieges in my account). Now it is just crashing, sometimes even on 1st minute. Many people returned to the game cause fc introduced laggless sieges and some pvp content that you can fight for(Towers/Bori). They promised it as a part 1.06. patch line, a now we have hundreds of players that were deceived, the players who will never ever return to aoc anymore.
Moderators and developers looking on community and smiling at every post, twisting words and imho mocking players like we are 12 years old kids. The people who knows nothing of gameplay in aoc (it is very clear for me because some posts and answers far away from aoc reality), some bugs and flaws in game and siege mechanics was reported by rus corp almost a year ago and it still exists in game. I was a beta tester, when game was released i found little difference in beta and final version but i was hoping that things will change in time. But two years is past already and aoc is still a beta.
Yes many things was changed in pve content since release, but this is not why i bought this game this not what was promised to us.
Such a shame.
Herzog [RUS corp]
Signed
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Will not write too much - most of all things which i wanna say, already said by Tranca and Hydraspool. I'm tired of lie-eating, tired of broken promises. I still like to play AoC, but the most interesting things in this game dont work correctly and gives only frustration, instead of pleasure.
Finstere - AoC - Aquilonian Conqueror 80 (PvP 5) - RUS corp - Fury EU (PvP)
From the sieges feedback thread on patch 1.06
From the Fury server forum
I have yet to find any post in which the GM directly accuses the whole community on Fury of exploiting? It's something they have to take in to account, they need to look at everything.
Beyond the paranoia, I have sympathy for your plight and hope that FC pull their finger out on this one, the PvP community on Fury deserve some action.
From the Fury server forum
I have yet to find any post in which the GM directly accuses the whole community on Fury of exploiting? It's something they have to take in to account, they need to look at everything.
Beyond the paranoia, I have sympathy for your plight and hope that FC pull their finger out on this one, the PvP community on Fury deserve some action.
Indirectly he does accuse the whole community, by saying that others server don't have problem while Fury have and most probably due to exploiters. I think it translates as Fury have too much exploiters comparing to other servers.
I any case I find it unlikely that the whole server including lowbie zones rober band and have lag spike because of some individuals using speedhacks and so on. Well if this is indeed the reason then it an indication of lack of professionalism from dev sides. If couple of individuals put ur server on a knees by using some primitive exploits intentionally or unintentionally that means that you have a VERY crappy server.
And btw just reading server logs at night before going to sleep, will not make problem automatically solve it self. Some one have to engage it seriously and fix. And I don't beleive some one really tries to fix it, it's 2 years already since it there and not going anywhere.
yep good old 32 bit dilema.game maker have been at the limit of 32 bit for close to a decade
laa helped,pea helped but the fact is ,the prob lem they try to correct stuff with new gear when the basemant is old
the basement is the gear and the os and everything else why do you think ms started from scratch with w7 mobile
because they finally began to see that trying to work with 3 even 5 gen past techno with todays make a big mess of thing
if game maker at least tried to use the proper tech it would be nice
check asian they go dx9 all the time without issue why?because they use also what was avail back in the day of dx 9
they dont try to have dx11 look and performance on a dx9 idea
they use the gear that was avail back then so when you play those you rarelly have issue
its like remodelling :how many coat of white paint will it take to cover a black paint you hate?
the response:a lot and at the end the white will always be off .its same with aoc!
Nihce,
Fix the problem, not the blame. This is a phrase often used in engineering, possibly in other professions as well. I firmly believe this. Now whether Morrison deliberately pointed a finger at the entire community or not, either indirectly or directly. He displayed gross unprofessionalism in his statements.
Even if it is true (I have no idea whether it is or not) he pissed off a lot of people by these comments. People who were already seething mad after being essentially tricked into resubbing for content that Didek clearly stated would be implemented in 1.06.
Content that has now been pushed back to "sometime after the release of the expansion."
They indulge in sharp practice on a whim, are economical with the truth, and sadly I suspect have a hidden agenda. To make AoC a PvE focused game. Because frankly PvP is too problematic and they cannot deliver what they stated.
Tranca [RUS corp]
Gotta love the utter naivety of the people who subscribed for ONE YEAR just because FC told them siege fixes are on their way. Now the messianic pvp features are promised to come AFTER the expansion. In the meantime - happy tier 3 raiding and farming renown points until your eyes bleed.
Although I seem like a devil's advocate ...
It was nearly impossible to get message out without saying what exactly is wrong. When Fury players went on rampage and demanded answers he had to provide some. It would be stupid to blame everything on FC, since they managed to provide awesome sieges to other servers (not really awesome - pvp in AoC lacks tactical depth that's why I quit ... 3 times
).
People were not pissed because the server was called cheating heaven - this was no surprise (shinigami, AD, maybe even RC at some point were all the time accused of exploiting) - the real surprise and frustrations were caused by Craig stating there will be no quick fix for Fury.
And about hidden agenda. What exactly is hidden? You don't need to be sherlock holmes to figure out what FC is doing and why.
I'm saying hidden, because although it's blatantly obvious that their priority is PvE. They keep promising PvP content and pushing it back in favour of rolling out more PvE.
But to say that their main aim is capturing the huge potential PvE market in Asia would be indelicate financially.
It's ok playing Devil's advocate btw. No offence taken, after all this is a discussion and without opposite poles we would be preaching to the choir. I just feel really let down, and extremely disappointed in Funcom. Having supported them since pre-release.
I just cannot help feeling as if I have been swindled. They smiled in my face, promised me the world, then punched me in the tits and stole my handbag.
Once bitten. I have learned an expensive lesson from these sheisters.
Tranca [RUS corp]
The problem is those numbers are just made up (apart from the lag, everyone does get that at some stage in a siege). Funcom have said clearly and repeatedly that they are investigating several players for triggering this, and confirmed it is only really happening on Fury and one other server, so I am not sure what else they can do. It sounds to me that it is certainly some players who have found a way to crash sieges and are doing it, either to defend or hell, just for s*&^'s and giggles.
I hope Funcom find the culprits soon though so you guys can experience the better sieges we have had since the last update.
Rofl, culprits? The only culprits are Funcom themselves. I swear, there should be a fine for being so hypocritical towards the desperate people who still play AoC and have been playing for 2 years.
But go right ahead, keep blaming the players..
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Most people knew mass pvp was never going to work on AoC from a few months after launch. The reasons have been discussed to death. That's why everyone except a handfull of guilds in fury left and funcom knew it that's why they see the game as pve now. Just look at all 'newb experience' posts in forums, marketing, and articles about AoC. It has improved, a lot more things to do etc etc all are about pve. I havn't seen one article talking about AoC pvp in over a year.
I think FC is just giving some fake hope to the few hundred pvpers in fury every now and then so they pay a few more subscriptions until they finally leave and the game will carry on as the casual pve game it wants to be.
I was in Fury and I know the thousands of hours Ruscorp, futilez, AD, nidvradir etc have put in the game and the wars they made but there has to be a point when you realize where the game is heading and that there is no place for you there. Damn, you guys have started to look like you're clinically insane still waiting after two years of pay to play!
LOL there is only 2 PvP servers worldwide
I'm sorry that kinda made m e LOLed
yeah but Fury is lucky as the USA version, Tyranny already melted down it is the least populated server by a wide margin now. It has been two years anyone interested in end game raids, PvP, crafting, or a lot of grouping stuff has already left. Even these forums and Funcom's revenue have slowed down a lot since patch 1.05, a year ago.
BUT AGE OF CONAN HAS ARENAS NOW!!!!!!! just like WoW......so Fury should be to busy PvPing in those arenas....what is your rating btw? If it is under 2200 don't even answer....nm it doesn't have ratings ;p However, the fans and reps here said Arenas would be awesome and get used so it must be true, IDK I don't play.
"You put in Arena's with no ranking system, you hide it in some back corner for nobody to even find it, not to mention people need a guild to use it and have a certain level requirement" - Khemical.
Funcom has reviewed all of its assets relevant for
impairment testing. This process has led to
recognition of an impairment loss of around
3,1 MUSD for Age of Conan due to a decrease in
numbers of subscribers for the game. Funcom Q4 10 report.
http://forums.ageofconan.com/showpost.php?p=2926123&postcount=7 500 mains/alts on Tyranny in past 30 days - instead of merge servers let's open a new PvP server, again! http://forums-eu.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=106427
I'm not sorry for them whatsoewer. How many times do they need to be cheated to learn their lesson? Funcom have lied so many times that by now everybody should learn that they can't be trusted.
http://www.teraonline.info.pl Polski Poradnik Gry Tera Online
they directly admitted, almost by literarly saying that they don't care for PvP
What they said was it was a matter of priority and using limited ressources. If you take a look at the results of their work, it is clear the ressources are 100% invested in PVE content.
The reason for this probably has been stated above me, I think they admited to themselves that they can't handle the PvP, it's too complicated for them, too time consuming, and beyond their gaming experience, so they just don't bother. At least, not until the expansion is out and they've sucked in some new customers.
The thing that really really really and I mean really gets me mad is that it really (really!) does not take much to satisfy the PvP crowd, but the amount of crumbs that has been thrown at us is beyond dis respectfull.
Seems they got one guy working on pvp and he spends his time (and I quote) "goofing around in the IRC channel".
Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing.
Well it would appear that the near anarchy on FURY [EU] paid some dividends. Morrison and the rest have had their hand forced and will release the PvP content before the expansion, and in 1.07. Some of us paid the price of being lifetime banned from their forums for daring to speak the truth.
No matter, as Baba puts it. The forums are like the domain of some African Dictatorship. Where the mods come in and clean the shite off the streets, paint the facades and cover up the public lavatory signs before King Morrison and his sidekick Famine grace us with their presence.
This time however there was just too much shite to shovel away. I guess Morrison and the rest of the motley crew got a real shock when they saw the anger and frustration displayed by the Furians. Yet their lies continue. Sieges on Fury are still broken beyond belief, and lag no matter how high spec your pc is.
You can see how these swindlers are still advertising sieges. If they were an honest company they would at least add a caveat stating that FURY [EU] sieges in particular are broken. This is clearly a case of false advertising and obtaining subscription money by deceit.
Tranca [RUS corp]
To bad you had this experiance with the game/Funcom. There has been a main focus on PVE, and mostly becouse there is more PVE players. As you write Funcom has taken the time now to get more PVP content in patch 1.07before ROGS is lanched in may/june. Funcom has alot of people on the expantion now, sow lets hope the get more people on PVP and making the siege work while you and I battle threw the new PVE stuff in ROGS.
LOL at the "improved sieges", you gotta be kidding me. Well, I guess one can be even more stupid by doing only one more thing - paying these swindlers money.
I think they really want to be a 70% PvP centric game with 30%PvE but just cannot figure out quite how to get the PvP right so instead they end up with mediocre PvP and mediocre PvE. Workable worldwide PvP takes some real finesse to pull off without making it a gank paradise.
I miss DAoC
I agree Funcom should be honest about the state of seiges and work hard to get Fury up to par. But honestly if they wont for whatever reason then just dont play aoc anymore.
Cant understand people still subbed to something they dont like in hopes that it will be fixed. Easy fix for me.
Step 1. Cancel account
step 2. Play something I actually enjoy and doesnt make me want to throw my PC in the yard.
I just dont get the die hards who will bitch and moan about a game for years all the while Paying to play it. For gods sake move on if you dont like it.
Well, the majority of Fury players have this love-the-game-you-hate attitude, so the situation is indeed bizarre. I was actually one of those for a couple of months, but since I am an intelligent being I didn't continue this self-destructing trend for TWO YEARS. And gotta love the unfounded and fanatic statements from Fury players - "AoC does suck, but there is no other pvp game like it". Rofl and facepalm in perfect synthesis!
Many (but not all) of those people are those that returned to the game because Funcom stated that sieges had been fixed. Subscribers, both returning and existing (and perhaps even new) bought 6 months or 1 year subscriptions. Your argument is certainly valid to those people who pay monthly, and yet still come back for more.
I cancelled my sub, which runs out in June. I log in now and again to chat, nothing more. I certainly won't be giving another penny to Funcom. Ever. No matter if they pulled off a Messianic type miracle and delivered the AoC that they still falsely advertise. It would be like handing the person who stole your car a bunch of money to buy new tyres for it.
I have no idea whether falsely advertising the siege part of the game as fully functional is illegal or not. Common sense tells me it is.
Tranca [RUS corp]