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Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

 Hi,

First off this is my first post so hi... Im looking at buying a new PC (havnt played any mmorpgs for a long time due to a rubbish laptop) and have seen one i may buy as its ideal re-payments etc etc, specs are as follows...

AMD Athlon II X4 processor 620. 4GB PC3-10600 DDR3-1333 (2x2048) RAM. 1TB 5400 SATA-3G NCQ 3.5 MARS/V/N/M hard drive. GeForce G210 512MB graphics. Windows 7 Premium.

Would this run the majority of new games coming out? Thanks in advance peeps!

EDIT

Now looking at one with a 9800GT card, similar spec - Wanting to play games like Aoin / Fallen earth both interest me hugely, look fantastic and polished, also will try LOTRO i think, cant wait to get back into mmorpgs, aint played any for years, and defo none that are graphically as capable as todays games.

Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

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  • ReklawReklaw Member UncommonPosts: 6,495

    The overall system is pretty good, but would not suggest you to take the g210 card, it comes close to Nvidia's 9400 card performance and performes less then the Radeon HD 4350.

    If you are able then atleast get a minimum of a G250 card.

     

     

  • DuClaireDuClaire Member Posts: 82

    Firstly, what is your budget? Secondly, where are you? The states, UK etc?



     

    Autofire

  • Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

     Im from the UK, budget about 800 pound, reason that comp is over priced is its a catalogue item, which always charge you more..... good thing was its pay nothing for a year, thats what initially interested me ya see. Iv seen some other comps with newer and better cards one im looking at now is pretty much same spec but with a 9800GT i think, which would be an improvement no?

    Also sorry for posting in wrong section! new here.

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    Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

    Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

  • kwaikwai Member UncommonPosts: 825

    Are you looking for a laptop or a stationary computer ?

  • Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

     Stationary.

    Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

    Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

  • DuClaireDuClaire Member Posts: 82

    Alright. Is Finance the only option?



    If you're capable of building one from scratch, and can afford to not go finance.. I could build you a better one than that for less than £400-£450 (Excluding screen). We built my best mate one for about £350 with Vista Home Premium, 2gigs of ram, 9600gso 869mb graphics etc, and an Intel Core 2 Duo E6400.

    For an extra £100 you could get a decent Win 7 build.



    Assuming you want to go windows 7,

    OS - Windows 7 home premium - £75 (OEM)

    Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P41-ES3G Socket 775 Motherboard - £46

    Processor - Intel Core 2 Duo E7500 Dual Core CPU - £95

    Memory - 4GB GeIL Black Dragon 1066MHz DDR2 Dual Channel Memory Kit - £65

    Graphics Card - 9600 GSO Fatal1ty - PC World have this atm for £79.99.

    Hard Drive - 500GB Western Digital Caviar Green 3.5" Hard Disk Drive - £40

    Drive - Sony/LG are normally good.  - £12.

    Case - Cooler Master Elite 360 - £25

    PSU - 550W OCZ Fatal1ty Modular Power Supply - £50.



    TOTAL = £488 (Still less than £500 and I havn't gone anywhere cheap either).



    If you want to save yourself some money, you could get a Win 7 upgrade on top of an older OS. Save yourself £15 there. Also a mate of mine picked up an E6600 from www.cex.co.uk for £36 second hand. It's still got a 12 month warranty and works a charm.



    From those two alone you can chop off £75. Just depends how much you want to pay.

    Autofire

  • Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

    Finance pretty much is the only way atm, and my knowledge with PC's apart from using one is non existent, i just wanna play some new breed mmo's really.

    Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

    Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

  • IlvaldyrIlvaldyr Member CommonPosts: 2,142

    I recently paid about £550 for a mid-range tower, then shelled out another couple hundred to replace the PSU and graphics card with a GTX260. Great machine, great value for money.

    It performs better than the Alienware £1799 system I bought ~18 months ago.

    Learned my lesson well; buy mid-range and upgrade carefully.

     

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  • Professor78Professor78 Member UncommonPosts: 611

    The post a couple above forgot to add monitor (Which I Assume you wil need to add cost ontop too?)., and if you want the game to last a while at playing games I would stay away from older graphics cards.

    www.aria.co.uk/Systems/Gaming+Range/Trident/Gladiator+Trident+X3+OC+Gaming+PC+

    Features

    - AMD Athlon X3 425 2.70GHz Processor @ 3.00GHz (You can choose to not have the CPU overclocked) (not too sure on this processor, more of a intel fan myself, pehaps somebody can give better feedback on it?)

    - Asus AMD 785G Chipset DDR3 PCI-Express Crossfire Motherboard

    - 4GB (2x2GB) 1333MHz DDR3 Memory

    - ATI Radeon HD 5750 512MB Graphics Card (latest series, can play lotro in dx11 - looks amazing)

    - Western Digital Caviar 640GB 7200rpm Fast Hard Disk Drive

    - DVD Combo Drive

    - Black Coolermaster Case

    - Aria Black Gaming 750W Power Supply

    - Windows 7 Home Premium 64-Bit Pre-Installed (CD & License Supplied)

    Very future proof system right here. And they offer various finance. (have used aria quite often in the past, asn also there finance, buy now pay in x months)

     

    Here is a link showing Graphics cards benchmarks. By no means are they gospel, but it gives you a general idea.

    www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html (in my opinion if you want a decent experience id say dont go below 1000 rating on this)

     

    Hope helped a little

     

    Dave

     

     

     

     

    Core i5 13600KF,  BeQuiet Pure Loop FX 360, 32gb DDR5-6000 XPG, WD SN850 NVMe ,PNY 3090 XLR8, Asus Prime Z790-A, Lian-Li O11 PCMR case (limited ed 1045/2000), 32" LG Ultragear 4k Monitor, Logitech G560 LightSync Sound, Razer Deathadder V2 and Razer Blackwidow V3 Keyboard


  • Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

    Thanks for all your help peeps, would still need a key board, mouse, screen and speakers with above build though...

    May i ask how does a 9800gt compare to above card?

    Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

    Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

  • IsturiIsturi Member Posts: 1,509

     

    Im a bloody Yank lol so I dont know the conversion rate as to pounds vs the dollar sorry mate. I will however give you my thought on a decent PC.

     

    AMD Phenom II 965, 3.4ghz, 125, socketAM3 (If you want to save money buy a AM2+ board is just as good I mean lest face it all it is just a BIOS upgrade to run the AM3 socket you don't need that Intel crap unless you plan on running your PC off a 62' Plasma TV. The i7 chip is a overkill and over priced.

    Yes I agree the GFORCE 200 series is a very good card I'm personally running a 260 GX and it gives me direct X 11 I just did not see the need to buy a xfire Card from Radeon considering once again I'm not running a 62' Plasma TV its a over kill. To top it off why would I spend $500.00 x 2 for a overkill.

    As far as RAM goes 4 gig is just fine you can always upgrade just make sure the Latency is 800 or more. Once again you don't need a over kill in RAM since RAM has little to do with your gaming experience. It is all in your vid card and your CPU.

    Of course you should run a 64 bit system. I wish Win 7 was not the dominate OS out there. If you have the money go with the Apple OS x leopard but that is a whole different animal all together. I'm not a expert in building a Apple OS machine but let me tell you I would if I could.

    Finally make sure you on board sound is up to par. Most boards come with surround sound 7.1 probably realtec drivers. It dose the job but if you want more of a crisp sound any soundblaster card will work just fine. I'm running a SB X-FI Extream card and I'm happy with it.

    Oh one more thing prob the most important part of your gaming experience make sure you run true high speed with broad band. Wi-fi crap will not cut it.

     

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    buy intel (all made by intel!)and then add the graphic of your choice!

  • allesguteallesgute Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Originally posted by Isturi


     
     
     
    Yes I agree the GFORCE 200 series is a very good card I'm personally running a 260 GX and it gives me direct X 11 I just did not see the need to buy a xfire Card from Radeon considering once again I'm not running a 62' Plasma TV its a over kill. To top it off why would I spend $500.00 x 2 for a overkill.


     

     

    what ? what ?again what ? buy ati 5770 or 5850...

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856
    Originally posted by allesgute

    Originally posted by Isturi


     
     
     
    Yes I agree the GFORCE 200 series is a very good card I'm personally running a 260 GX and it gives me direct X 11 I just did not see the need to buy a xfire Card from Radeon considering once again I'm not running a 62' Plasma TV its a over kill. To top it off why would I spend $500.00 x 2 for a overkill.


     

     

    what ? what ?again what ? buy ati 5770 or 5850...

     

    stick with ati 5xxx serie hard to say witch since sometime you can have 5970 for very cheap and other time you can only have a 4xxx serie very expensive .but just watch price and stick with ati 5xxx serie(i prefer asus as an ati graphic card maker)

  • Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

    My real question is will this run games for the next 3 years?

    q9550 quad core processor

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium

    NVidia Inno3D GeForce 9800GT card

    20x DVD-RW drive

    SATA hard drive

    4GB RAM



     

    Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

    Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    I just bought a new pc with an Intel I5 750 processor quadcore and I must say the pc is awesome! I always had an AMD until now and I made the right move going to Intel. The important thing is to get what is right for you.

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  • kwaikwai Member UncommonPosts: 825

    Well tbh.

    You should get your self.

    CPU : AMD II X4 9xx

    4gig DDR3 minimum ( 1333 Mhz minimum )

    PSU : Corsair Tx650 or 750w

    GPU : GTX260+ or ATi 5xxx series.

    Motherboard : Asus or Gigabyte to support it.

    Tower : Antec Nine Hundred or equivelant.

    HDD : 1TB or something Sata II 7200 rpm minimum

  • allesguteallesgute Member UncommonPosts: 22
    Originally posted by Feather5


    My real question is will this run games for the next 3 years?
    q9550 quad core processor

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
    NVidia Inno3D GeForce 9800GT card
    20x DVD-RW drive
    SATA hard drive
    4GB RAM


     

    I would buy i5-750 if you want intel

    9800gt is old card.... nvidia 200 series are the same renamed crap

    windows 7 mate

    other stuff is ok

     

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    Wait until April.  Also if you are looking at spending around 800 pounds, then you most likely will be using an AMD system with an ATI graphics card.  In the UK its actually cheaper to buy a pre-built instead of the parts since the UK doesn't have a newegg equivalent.

  • Professor78Professor78 Member UncommonPosts: 611


    Yes I agree the GFORCE 200 series is a very good card I'm personally running a 260 GX and it gives me direct X 11 I just did not see the need to buy a xfire Card from Radeon considering once again I'm not running a 62' Plasma TV its a over kill. To top it off why would I spend $500.00 x 2 for a overkill.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but that card is only DX10.1 (Windows 7 does have a glitch saying its 11, but its not, try seeing what GPU-Z says)
    Oh one more thing prob the most important part of your gaming experience make sure you run true high speed with broad band. Wi-fi crap will not cut it.
    I run wireless on Draft-N Router, it rarely makes a diff lately. still get my 50mb download speeds.
     

     

     

    Core i5 13600KF,  BeQuiet Pure Loop FX 360, 32gb DDR5-6000 XPG, WD SN850 NVMe ,PNY 3090 XLR8, Asus Prime Z790-A, Lian-Li O11 PCMR case (limited ed 1045/2000), 32" LG Ultragear 4k Monitor, Logitech G560 LightSync Sound, Razer Deathadder V2 and Razer Blackwidow V3 Keyboard


  • Professor78Professor78 Member UncommonPosts: 611
    Originally posted by Feather5


    Thanks for all your help peeps, would still need a key board, mouse, screen and speakers with above build though...
    May i ask how does a 9800gt compare to above card?

     

    Check here. There is not much in it, but the 9800 is getting on, and it won't age very well.  It will start struggling with new games.

    www.videocardbenchmark.net/high_end_gpus.html

     

    Core i5 13600KF,  BeQuiet Pure Loop FX 360, 32gb DDR5-6000 XPG, WD SN850 NVMe ,PNY 3090 XLR8, Asus Prime Z790-A, Lian-Li O11 PCMR case (limited ed 1045/2000), 32" LG Ultragear 4k Monitor, Logitech G560 LightSync Sound, Razer Deathadder V2 and Razer Blackwidow V3 Keyboard


  • OrphesOrphes Member UncommonPosts: 3,039
    Originally posted by Feather5


    My real question is will this run games for the next 3 years?
    q9550 quad core processor

    Microsoft Windows Vista Home Premium
    NVidia Inno3D GeForce 9800GT card
    20x DVD-RW drive
    SATA hard drive
    4GB RAM


     

     

    Well... maybe depending on what the resolution is on the monitor you will buy is.

    I would recommend you to look for a resolution at 1680x1050. Your graphic card will be able to handle that resolution longer as time goes and new games become released. Or a monitor with resolution at 1600x900.

    I would recommend that you buy the computer proffessor78 tipped you about.

    I'm so broke. I can't even pay attention.
    "You have the right not to be killed"

  • Feather5Feather5 Member Posts: 90

    Sorry last question i promise..... lol

    Seen another one with a 4850 card which is superior to the 9800gt by quite a margin, is it compatible with dx 11? also it comes with a phenom 805 processor im guessing this is easily upgrable for the future? if so i will probebly get this one as all in with mouse keyboard etc gonna cost me cheaper than the others i looked at.

     

    sorry again.

    Ex. myth of soma, legend of mir, mu online and eudemons online player.

    Current game : Runescape (until pc build is complete)

  • viddsterviddster Member UncommonPosts: 220

    The HD4850 is alot better, but it is only DX10.1. If those are your options I would go for the better Graphics card.

     

    Where are you getting your hardware from? People could point out the best deals if you link the website.

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  • IsturiIsturi Member Posts: 1,509
    Originally posted by Professor78



    Yes I agree the GFORCE 200 series is a very good card I'm personally running a 260 GX and it gives me direct X 11 I just did not see the need to buy a xfire Card from Radeon considering once again I'm not running a 62' Plasma TV its a over kill. To top it off why would I spend $500.00 x 2 for a overkill.
    Sorry to burst your bubble but that card is only DX10.1 (Windows 7 does have a glitch saying its 11, but its not, try seeing what GPU-Z says)
    Oh one more thing prob the most important part of your gaming experience make sure you run true high speed with broad band. Wi-fi crap will not cut it.
    I run wireless on Draft-N Router, it rarely makes a diff lately. still get my 50mb download speeds.
     

     

    @Professor78: Thank you for the input on My GTX card. No bubble busted what can I say its Microsoft for you. I went to the BFG site and yes come to find out it only supports DX 10 or for that matter 10.1lets face it are there any games right now even running DX 11? Non of the less I very much enjoy this card I can turn all my games on ultra high with no lag. Bottom line this is a compatible card for the money.

     

    I unfortunately get my Wi-Fi via Cricket or I dubbed it crapit. on a good day if Im lucky I get on average 0.28mbs download speed. So apparently you are using a much more reliable company then crapit. I just cant see how a Draft N Router will improve the impossible?

     

     

     

     

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