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Terribly Disappointed With LCD's

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  • BetrayalFiveBetrayalFive Member Posts: 75

    Did you even do any research before the purchase? Samsung is a very good brand now. I use them for my tv, cell phone, LCD pc screen, etc....My LCD is beautiful. Long story short is they, like other companies, are a good brand. You just have to make sure you know what you want before you buy. Just don't buy it because it is a LCD screen. I did my research on mine before purchasing it and I love it, dearly. It works very well.

  • jpnolejpnole Member UncommonPosts: 1,698

    I'm going to guess this monitor was purchased at a second hand shop or small time retailer. Always remember that a small time shopkeeper will tell you anything to push out their old inventory. IMO one would have to be living under a rock for the past decade to purchase a 19" 4:3 for gaming!!! Not sure how returns work in your country but you don't have to invest any more money.... just take it back! (assuming another country since you said you paid 130 Euros)

     

     

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by jpnole


    I'm going to guess this monitor was purchased at a second hand shop or small time retailer. Always remember that a small time shopkeeper will tell you anything to push out their old inventory. IMO one would have to be living under a rock for the past decade to purchase a 19" 4:3 for gaming!!! Not sure how returns work in your country but you don't have to invest any more money.... just take it back! (assuming another country since you said you paid 130 Euros)
     
     

    Plus you can add that 90% of people who work at computer store don't know dick when it comes to hardware, and that's fact.

     

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,222
    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

  • dunesw64dunesw64 Member Posts: 150
    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    Originally posted by Phry

    Originally posted by noquarter


    Btw almost all LCD monitors 'support' 60Hz and 75Hz but the 75Hz is not native. What happens if you set it to 75Hz is it can slow down the actual response time by screwing up the LCD overdrive logic in the controller, and beyond that it drops every 5th frame to resync back to 60Hz since it's actually running the panel at 60Hz while converting your 75Hz input.


    LCD's do not flicker because they have a constant light source behind the pixels, 60Hz and 75Hz don't have the same effect they do on CRT's.


    If you have an LCD that supports 76Hz like the Dell 2209WA e-IPS panel it probably does true 76Hz refresh (updating the screen every 13.3ms instead of 16.6ms).


    I think the Dell 2209WA and the NEC EA231WMi are probably 2 of the best nearly affordable monitors right now.


    I think you definitely want widescreen for gaming, there's nothing technically different between the panels that would give you a better picture, but widescreen offers a wider field of view because of the 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio. This is why Eyefinity rocks, you can get up to a 48:9 field of view using 3 monitors which is totally immersive.



     

    those seem to be fairly contradictory details... as the response times are hideous.. 13.3 ms.. is ok for a tv maybe.. but for a computer monitor.. its just no good.. anything over 6ms is really bad imo, the closer to 4ms you can get the better.. though most arent over 5ms anyway.... can't help but think those timings are inaccurate on the dell monitor...i dont think they would really make a monitor with such a long response time..

     

    below 85 ms it is not humanly possible to notice the difference

     

    I really hope you meant to say 8.5 and not 85 ms. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not realize there's a huge delay with 85 milliseconds.

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by dunesw64

    Originally posted by drbaltazar

    Originally posted by Phry

    Originally posted by noquarter


    Btw almost all LCD monitors 'support' 60Hz and 75Hz but the 75Hz is not native. What happens if you set it to 75Hz is it can slow down the actual response time by screwing up the LCD overdrive logic in the controller, and beyond that it drops every 5th frame to resync back to 60Hz since it's actually running the panel at 60Hz while converting your 75Hz input.


    LCD's do not flicker because they have a constant light source behind the pixels, 60Hz and 75Hz don't have the same effect they do on CRT's.


    If you have an LCD that supports 76Hz like the Dell 2209WA e-IPS panel it probably does true 76Hz refresh (updating the screen every 13.3ms instead of 16.6ms).


    I think the Dell 2209WA and the NEC EA231WMi are probably 2 of the best nearly affordable monitors right now.


    I think you definitely want widescreen for gaming, there's nothing technically different between the panels that would give you a better picture, but widescreen offers a wider field of view because of the 16:9 or 16:10 aspect ratio. This is why Eyefinity rocks, you can get up to a 48:9 field of view using 3 monitors which is totally immersive.



     

    those seem to be fairly contradictory details... as the response times are hideous.. 13.3 ms.. is ok for a tv maybe.. but for a computer monitor.. its just no good.. anything over 6ms is really bad imo, the closer to 4ms you can get the better.. though most arent over 5ms anyway.... can't help but think those timings are inaccurate on the dell monitor...i dont think they would really make a monitor with such a long response time..

     

    below 85 ms it is not humanly possible to notice the difference

     

    I really hope you meant to say 8.5 and not 85 ms. You'd have to be a complete idiot to not realize there's a huge delay with 85 milliseconds.

    Compare that to his other posts and do the math.

     

  • BertiauxBertiaux Member Posts: 122
    Originally posted by Seanalex


     Then don't by crappy monitors. My 22" widescreen has a 170 degree viewing angle, far better color brilliance, albeit it can't produce the natural colors of a CRT, making it a bit less favorable than CRT's when it comes to photo editing.
     
    But seriously... 19" 4:3? swallow the extra $50 and get a damn wide screen that has some viewing angle to it.

    Wow, I'll bet you're just a joy to hang out with at parties. 

    Get over yourself and stop e-peening. Maybe the monitor he bought was what he could afford.

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  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,222
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,222
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • bronecarbronecar Member Posts: 685
    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    op probably was sold an old design !since lot of company buy thiose screen so that the next guy or gal beside the guy doesnt check his or her screen ,completly useless for gamer tho!



    Here is some info I found on the net. Mine is manufactured in January 2010 (look at the date of the article) + no wonder my monitor driver dated back from 2008. There are some minor differences, meaning mine has a dynamic contrast of 50000:1, as opposed to the one featured there, which is 8000:1. Plus my format is 4:3, the other 5:3.

     

    I'm taking it back to the local shop where I ordered it, I specifically asked for a gaming monitor, and this 'thing' can't even render pixels right, icons lack smoothness, it's like watching a 800x600 on a CRT.

     

    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=2265

     

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Totally worthless to compare uncalibrated monitors and without knowledge how to look for differences.

     

  • nothereatallnothereatall Member Posts: 18
    Originally posted by bronecar


     It's not so much the monitor himself

     

    How do you tell the gender of your monitor?

  • SovrathSovrath Member LegendaryPosts: 33,000
    Originally posted by bronecar


    So I thought I should upgrade my pc, by buying a new monitor, my old one was a second hand dating back from 1998.
     
    Boy, was I eager in anticipation waiting for my 19 inch display Samsung LCD 4:3 format (square screen)
     
    Fianlly, it arrived on Wednesday, only to realize that LCD's have a rather poor image quality compared to the old CRT monitors.
     
    My model is Sync Master 943. The most annoying factor is the fact that you may not optimally view image from any angle, the top is rather dark and the bottom rather bright and the grid aspect which doesn't enable smoothness. And it's a 2010 model. After so many years you would expect they've made some improvements to the technology.



     

    You might need a differnet monitor. I have noticed that the old crt monitors seem to have a better picture but I've also noticed that some flat screens are horrible.

    I currently have a gateweay, 24" I think 1920x1200 and it works fine. I imagine there are better but it suits my needs.

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  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,222
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Totally worthless to compare uncalibrated monitors and without knowledge how to look for differences.

     

    If I have to look for the differences it doesn't really matter does it?

    Sig so that badges don't eat my posts.


  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Totally worthless to compare uncalibrated monitors and without knowledge how to look for differences.

     

    If I have to look for the differences it doesn't really matter does it?

    You can't fix a car either if you don't know how it works.

     

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    yep google a proper screen then once you know numbers print the spec sheet bring it to your seller and tell him the screen he sold is the wrong kind ,tell him your not an office worker you re a gamer he ll understand and trade it might have a price diff but it shouldnt be too high in doubt compare with newegg.com

    some store even reimburse if it wasnt long ago!

  • ForceQuitForceQuit Member Posts: 350
    Originally posted by nothereatall

    Originally posted by bronecar


     It's not so much the monitor himself

     

    How do you tell the gender of your monitor?

     

    You reach around its back and feel for what kind of ports it has.

  • noquarternoquarter Member Posts: 1,170


    Originally posted by Phry

    those seem to be fairly contradictory details... as the response times are hideous.. 13.3 ms.. is ok for a tv maybe.. but for a computer monitor.. its just no good.. anything over 6ms is really bad imo, the closer to 4ms you can get the better.. though most arent over 5ms anyway.... can't help but think those timings are inaccurate on the dell monitor...i dont think they would really make a monitor with such a long response time..


    Let me clarify.. response time is still going to be 5ms. Refresh rate of 75Hz means the panel is updated 75 times a second (once every 13.3ms). What this means is every 13.3ms it puts out a new frame on the display, and it takes 5ms for the pixels to change color and show this new frame.


    In other words refresh rate and response time are not related, one is how often the screen is updated, and the other is how quick it reacts to that update.


    The true measure of a gaming monitor is 120Hz and low response time, color and viewing angle are much less important when you ask for a 'gaming' monitor. There's only 3 120Hz monitors that I know of, a Viewsonic 22" 1680x1050, Samsung 22" 1680x1050, and a new Alienware one that are 120Hz. They each run around $300 and are all TN panels meaning poor viewing angle and colors compared to IPS.


    I would read this article:
    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/monitors/display/lcd-monitor-buyers-guide-spring2010.html if you want some good info about what to look for in monitors.

  • Xondar123Xondar123 Member CommonPosts: 2,543
    Originally posted by bronecar


    So I thought I should upgrade my pc, by buying a new monitor, my old one was a second hand dating back from 1998.
     
    Boy, was I eager in anticipation waiting for my 19 inch display Samsung LCD 4:3 format (square screen)
     
    Fianlly, it arrived on Wednesday, only to realize that LCD's have a rather poor image quality compared to the old CRT monitors.
     
    My model is Sync Master 943. The most annoying factor is the fact that you may not optimally view image from any angle, the top is rather dark and the bottom rather bright and the grid aspect which doesn't enable smoothness. And it's a 2010 model. After so many years you would expect they've made some improvements to the technology.

     

    I'm afraid you bought a bad monitor my friend. First of all, you should always get widescreen. Widescreen is way, way better. Second, I also bought a Samsung and it is way clearer, brighter and better than my old CRT. I do have trouble with a bit of light bleed, but overall it's not noticable unless the screen is completely dark.

    Also, it seems that LCDs have production problems far more than CRTs ever did. Sometimes you get a monitor that's just broken out of the box and you have to take it back and get a new one.

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,222
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Totally worthless to compare uncalibrated monitors and without knowledge how to look for differences.

     

    If I have to look for the differences it doesn't really matter does it?

    You can't fix a car either if you don't know how it works.

     

    Right, but your saying my car runs just as well as any other car, but is inferior because of something that you can't notice.

    If you can't see a difference in two displays where's the issue? Just because one has higher numbers in some category that the human eye can't distinguish doesn't really matter.

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  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362
    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Totally worthless to compare uncalibrated monitors and without knowledge how to look for differences.

     

    If I have to look for the differences it doesn't really matter does it?

    You can't fix a car either if you don't know how it works.

     

    Right, but your saying my car runs just as well as any other car, but is inferior because of something that you can't notice.

    If you can't see a difference in two displays where's the issue? Just because one has higher numbers in some category that the human eye can't distinguish doesn't really matter.

    There is difference, quite much actually. It's not about differences not able to see by human eye, it's about differences you might not be able to see.

     

  • KyntorKyntor Member Posts: 280

    I was looking for several moderately cheap monitors last year for CADD Stations and a friend recommended this one:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236052

    They looked really good.  I liked them so much that I bought one for my home computer.

    I don't claim them to be the best, but they were well worth the money.

    "Those who dislike things based only on the fact that they are popular are just as shallow and superficial as those who only like them for the same reason."

  • skeaserskeaser Member RarePosts: 4,222
    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by skeaser

    Originally posted by drbaltazar


    mm first when you buy a screen always check two thing
    1 :buy an HD SCREEN(23 inch is native hd ,1920x1080 or such is HD!
    2:buy widescreen
    3:stay with big brand!
    4:dont buy acer even if its given to you !why?because they dont support their product with new driver ,software like other brand do
    want something from them ?send a check and they ll send you the stuff in a juffy(about 3 years!oups no need the warranty is finish lol!)
     

     

    My last monitor (22") and my new monitor (24") are both Acer and both are good.

    I'm using reviews.cnet.com/lcd-monitors/acer-p243w/1707-3174_7-32569195.html

    Bit better review:

     

    www.digitalversus.com/article-357-3693-38.html

    Wouldn't say anything else good about it than cheap price.

    Um, that review gave it 4/5 stars, the biggest markdown being they didn't like the fact that you can't pivot the monitor!

    When you compare the monitors against top tn-monitors, it's lot worse in everything.

     

    Right, when you look at the numbers, maybe I'm different but I personally can't see a difference.

    Totally worthless to compare uncalibrated monitors and without knowledge how to look for differences.

     

    If I have to look for the differences it doesn't really matter does it?

    You can't fix a car either if you don't know how it works.

     

    Right, but your saying my car runs just as well as any other car, but is inferior because of something that you can't notice.

    If you can't see a difference in two displays where's the issue? Just because one has higher numbers in some category that the human eye can't distinguish doesn't really matter.

    There is difference, quite much actually. It's not about differences not able to see by human eye, it's about differences you might not be able to see.

     

     

    That's what I'm saying, I can't see any difference, so why pay more?

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