Have they done anything to change how mind-numbingly boring it is? Maybe then Ill re-sub.
The game hasnt changed much since launch so if you found it boring before, you still will. If you are waiting for major changes try back after 2.0 IMO which is later this year
Have they done anything to change how mind-numbingly boring it is? Maybe then Ill re-sub.
hi there i bought a 15 day card and return after 3 months, and i can tell you the gorgos server its healthy with population on both sides, and the bots are almost gone!, and the comunitty its very adult and much better than 3/4 months ago, i returned to my old legion and people always ask me if i need help on quests and stuff, i think i give a second chance till 1.9 patch.
From what I've gathered from my friends who played it briefly was that it's a decent game, although very niche. It mostly appeals to people who love grinding / Koreans. It has good character customisation in terms of physical appearance (although not much mechanics-wise), and some slick combo animations during combat. I never got around to trying it but by now they've probably done their fair share of fixing up, so perhaps it's about time to get a trial account going.
its of course sad the population is so low - mmos thrive on community... well except WoW perhaps
Well i sorta quit on Aion due to my own reasons ( not the games fault). but its been about 2 months now and i wonder
how is Aion doing? is it still heading downhill or has it become more popular.
I still keep an eye on Aion, and talk to my old guild on vent, in the hopes that NCS start to do the right thing by it, so maybe I can give you an obvjective view.
How is Aion doing?
Well... it seems the time since launch has been mainly spent fixing technical/ launch issues and balancing the game, to the point many that still play call it a paid beta, and all but the oldest core servers seem to have pop issues (I know kahrun is particularly bad for instance) with very few new joiners and a diminishing player base of high levels.
despite what the more enthusiastic of it's fans tell you, the pop is still shrinking at an alarming rate.
In addition, most economies seems fubar with hyper inflation caused by artifical kinah (even if you cant now see the bots), creating a barrier to play for newbs, and hacks (which NCS do not ban for using, only suspend) are used in plain sight.
Content hasnt increased at all as far as I know and is still literally JUST enough for one play through with no repetition.
The PvP is all gank and zerg, requiring little skill, and you WILL spend the first 30 pvp levels being constantly killed by the same old twinked out alts of high level players 10 levels above you while you try to lvl. If you remark on this in a public channel you will be told to QQ nub, L2P, and go back to wow.
The vocal community, in LFG, is apparently on kahrun still as nasty and trollish as ever, made even worse now by bored L50s who have nothing to do except act like dicks. the fact that so many different countries share the same servers, though not the same language, and the fact that PvP games seems to attract the biggest assholes by their nature, and you have a fragmented and often hostile 'community'.
On the up side, Aion remains a lovely looking game that has some great ideas (though often very poorly implemented)that is worth buying to play through for a month or two. Just dont expect more then that from it... because NCS obviously dont.
Maybe patch 2.0 will finally save this game and finally bring it up to the release standard that I expect in a modern MMORPG... Maybe all those cancelled accounts will return then, because i dont see many peoplecoming back for 1.9 alone. I hope so though, because at it's heart there is an amazing game struggling to live and it only takes NCS to make a few good choices for it to be great.
The truth is though that by the time Aion is finished to release quality other games looming on the horizon will be here and many will simply opt for them instead. I do not see Aion soaring to the heights we all so hoped for a while back... it won't die or anything, but it won't now be anything more then just another niche korean pvp grinder.
Well i sorta quit on Aion due to my own reasons ( not the games fault). but its been about 2 months now and i wonder
how is Aion doing? is it still heading downhill or has it become more popular.
I still keep an eye on Aion, and talk to my old guild on vent, in the hopes that NCS start to do the right thing by it, so maybe I can give you an obvjective view.
How is Aion doing?
Well... it seems the time since launch has been mainly spent fixing technical/ launch issues and balancing the game, to the point many that still play call it a paid beta, and all but the oldest core servers seem to have pop issues (I know kahrun is particularly bad for instance) with very few new joiners and a diminishing player base of high levels.
despite what the more enthusiastic of it's fans tell you, the pop is still shrinking at an alarming rate.
In addition, most economies seems fubar with hyper inflation caused by artifical kinah (even if you cant now see the bots), creating a barrier to play for newbs, and hacks (which NCS do not ban for using, only suspend) are used in plain sight.
Content hasnt increased at all as far as I know and is still literally JUST enough for one play through with no repetition.
The PvP is all gank and zerg, requiring little skill, and you WILL spend the first 30 pvp levels being constantly killed by the same old twinked out alts of high level players 10 levels above you while you try to lvl. If you remark on this in a public channel you will be told to QQ nub, L2P, and go back to wow.
The vocal community, in LFG, is apparently on kahrun still as nasty and trollish as ever, made even worse now by bored L50s who have nothing to do except act like dicks. the fact that so many different countries share the same servers, though not the same language, and the fact that PvP games seems to attract the biggest assholes by their nature, and you have a fragmented and often hostile 'community'.
On the up side, Aion remains a lovely looking game that has some great ideas (though often very poorly implemented)that is worth buying to play through for a month or two. Just dont expect more then that from it... because NCS obviously dont.
Maybe patch 2.0 will finally save this game and finally bring it up to the release standard that I expect in a modern MMORPG... Maybe they will return then, because i dont see many coming back 1.9. I hope so though, because at it's heart there is an amazing game struggling to live and it only takes NCS to make a few good choices for it to be great.
The truth is though that by the time Aion is finished to release quality other games looming on the horizon will be here and many will simply opt for them instead. I do not see Aion soaring to the heights we all so hoped for a while back... it won't die or anything, but it won't now be anything more then just another niche korean pvp grinder.
Wll well, you can almost taste the bitterness in his mouth cant you. This post sounds like you had a very bad experience on kahrun server. And as always with mmorpg.com, you thought you wold leave a negative post. so sad.
As for being a played beta? This is one of the most polished games to leave a dev team. And the population is doing nicely on most servers. Just the newest ones i belive are abit low.
Well i sorta quit on Aion due to my own reasons ( not the games fault). but its been about 2 months now and i wonder
how is Aion doing? is it still heading downhill or has it become more popular.
I still keep an eye on Aion, and talk to my old guild on vent, in the hopes that NCS start to do the right thing by it, so maybe I can give you an obvjective view.
How is Aion doing?
Well... it seems the time since launch has been mainly spent fixing technical/ launch issues and balancing the game, to the point many that still play call it a paid beta, and all but the oldest core servers seem to have pop issues (I know kahrun is particularly bad for instance) with very few new joiners and a diminishing player base of high levels.
despite what the more enthusiastic of it's fans tell you, the pop is still shrinking at an alarming rate.
In addition, most economies seems fubar with hyper inflation caused by artifical kinah (even if you cant now see the bots), creating a barrier to play for newbs, and hacks (which NCS do not ban for using, only suspend) are used in plain sight.
Content hasnt increased at all as far as I know and is still literally JUST enough for one play through with no repetition.
The PvP is all gank and zerg, requiring little skill, and you WILL spend the first 30 pvp levels being constantly killed by the same old twinked out alts of high level players 10 levels above you while you try to lvl. If you remark on this in a public channel you will be told to QQ nub, L2P, and go back to wow.
The vocal community, in LFG, is apparently on kahrun still as nasty and trollish as ever, made even worse now by bored L50s who have nothing to do except act like dicks. the fact that so many different countries share the same servers, though not the same language, and the fact that PvP games seems to attract the biggest assholes by their nature, and you have a fragmented and often hostile 'community'.
On the up side, Aion remains a lovely looking game that has some great ideas (though often very poorly implemented)that is worth buying to play through for a month or two. Just dont expect more then that from it... because NCS obviously dont.
Maybe patch 2.0 will finally save this game and finally bring it up to the release standard that I expect in a modern MMORPG... Maybe they will return then, because i dont see many coming back 1.9. I hope so though, because at it's heart there is an amazing game struggling to live and it only takes NCS to make a few good choices for it to be great.
The truth is though that by the time Aion is finished to release quality other games looming on the horizon will be here and many will simply opt for them instead. I do not see Aion soaring to the heights we all so hoped for a while back... it won't die or anything, but it won't now be anything more then just another niche korean pvp grinder.
Wll well, you can almost taste the bitterness in his mouth cant you. This post sounds like you had a very bad experience on kahrun server. And as always with mmorpg.com, you thought you wold leave a negative post. so sad.
As for being a played beta? This is one of the most polished games to leave a dev team. And the population is doing nicely on most servers. Just the newest ones i belive are abit low.
lol am I bitter? No... I just call it as i see it, for good or bad. Do I post negative all the time? lol ofc not, don't be silly. It just so happens that in aion's case there is a lot of bad. I am sorry if that offends you. What I posted is true and valid, even if you don't like it.
I will not even start to discuss 'polished' with you, as it seems we have very different ideas of what that means... It seems your standards are way lower then mine and you are more easily impressed, but thats fine.
Btw, your sig says treat how you wish to be treated... does this mean i get to dismiss your views out of hand, without bothering to discuss it with you, and try to insult you by labelling you as 'sad'?
Well i sorta quit on Aion due to my own reasons ( not the games fault). but its been about 2 months now and i wonder
how is Aion doing? is it still heading downhill or has it become more popular.
I still keep an eye on Aion, and talk to my old guild on vent, in the hopes that NCS start to do the right thing by it, so maybe I can give you an obvjective view.
How is Aion doing?
Well... it seems the time since launch has been mainly spent fixing technical/ launch issues and balancing the game, to the point many that still play call it a paid beta, and all but the oldest core servers seem to have pop issues (I know kahrun is particularly bad for instance) with very few new joiners and a diminishing player base of high levels.
What issues are you talking about? I can only think of the bots/gold spamming issue and the fortress crashes, and these were fixed long ago, months ago.
What do you mean by balancing the game? I don't recall anything being done regarding this.
Paid beta? This is the most polished MMO release I've ever experienced.
All but the newest servers, aka the ones added post-launch, have decent populations, obviously some more than others.
despite what the more enthusiastic of it's fans tell you, the pop is still shrinking at an alarming rate.
Not true, as even xfire shows Aion is still at nb9, and has been changing from positions 8 to 10 since 4-5months. It has lost a good chunk of the population after the first free month, but has somewhat stabilized and server activity hasn't had any noticeable change since then, at least on both servers I play.
It might be losing players slowly (like every MMO bar WoW and EvE), but that hardly means that it's "shrinking at an alarming rate".
In addition, most economies seems fubar with hyper inflation caused by artifical kinah (even if you cant now see the bots), creating a barrier to play for newbs, and hacks (which NCS do not ban for using, only suspend) are used in plain sight.
Economy has gotten much better and is still getting better gradually. Some people use hacks, though it's just an extremely small percentage of bored players, it's nearly a non-issue, but hopefully they eradicate those as well.
Content hasnt increased at all as far as I know and is still literally JUST enough for one play through with no repetition.
Agreed, content is just enough for one play through with no repetition.
The PvP is all gank and zerg, requiring little skill, and you WILL spend the first 30 pvp levels being constantly killed by the same old twinked out alts of high level players 10 levels above you while you try to lvl. If you remark on this in a public channel you will be told to QQ nub, L2P, and go back to wow.
The PvP is inconsistent. There's ganking, there's zerging, but it's not all that. A lot of times there are extremely fun fights that take place in the abyss, group vs group, 3vs3 even though it's rare, and skill and experience play a big part in these kinds of situations, more so than gear.
Dredgion can be very fun as well, and it's getting fixed in 1.9 to make it even better. Rifting is also great, some of the best fun you can have in PvP.
When PvP happens, it's great. That's the only thing NC has to do: Make PvP more accessible.
There are non-rifting zones you can level in, and it's really easy to avoid ganking if you know where the rifts spawn.
The vocal community, in LFG, is apparently on kahrun still as nasty and trollish as ever, made even worse now by bored L50s who have nothing to do except act like dicks. the fact that so many different countries share the same servers, though not the same language, and the fact that PvP games seems to attract the biggest assholes by their nature, and you have a fragmented and often hostile 'community'.
You're overreacting, every game has its fair share of asshats. The gankers can be annoying, though that's just an added incentive to do the same to their kind. Mostly the factions do hate each other in-game, even though on the forums they get along pretty well (mostly).
You don't have a fragmented and hostile community, in fact the threat from the other faction often consolidates the relations between players from the same faction, and more so guilds of the same faction, which plays a huge role in fortress sieging.
On the up side, Aion remains a lovely looking game that has some great ideas (though often very poorly implemented)that is worth buying to play through for a month or two. Just dont expect more then that from it... because NCS obviously dont.
Maybe patch 2.0 will finally save this game and finally bring it up to the release standard that I expect in a modern MMORPG... Maybe all those cancelled accounts will return then, because i dont see many peoplecoming back for 1.9 alone. I hope so though, because at it's heart there is an amazing game struggling to live and it only takes NCS to make a few good choices for it to be great.
The truth is though that by the time Aion is finished to release quality other games looming on the horizon will be here and many will simply opt for them instead. I do not see Aion soaring to the heights we all so hoped for a while back... it won't die or anything, but it won't now be anything more then just another niche korean pvp grinder.
Please, let the people who compare Aion to a korean grinder, actually PLAY a korean grinder before saying things like that that are so far from the truth it's laughable.
I'm sorry but I just don't think you know enough about the game or have played it recently, which is fine.
Even though in some parts you made it appear as if you were simply trolling, I don't think that's the case, though a lot of the info you posted is simply wrong.
EDIT: Aion has alot, ALOT of issues. However from what you posted, the lack of content and accessibility of PvP are the only things that really qualify as issues. What else is wrong with the game? that's for another thread.
As usual ppl want the skillz without putting in the effort. So they moan, come on mmorpg, slag it off, trying to get ppl to avoid it and go play the game they say is good.
Aion still has great population, some servers better than others. But they are working on server transfers.
AS with every new MMO the community want it all now!. The games still only 6 months old. NC are always going to be working on new content and updates + giving us the double xp wkends to boost are lvling.
Aions kinda like marmite, you either love it or hate it i suppose. This goes for every post and the mmorpg community. Stop being such emo haters, make constructive posts and give dignified feedback to ppls questions. At teh moment this forum is not really trusted dew its its flame threads all the time. Lets change that shall we.
/Sigh, you do realize that the Korean version has been out for at least a year by now, and I think we've been waiting on the 1.9 patch, for what 2-3 months? So yes, we do want it now, because we have been waiting for a while for fixes to make the game better (Hell some should have come in the start, Sanctum tele much?) As a continuous player of aion, I for one can say its population is most certainly not fine, and more people are leaving then coming, and more likely then not, all the new players you see are alts. although I have no doubt we will see a large chunk of the player base returning to check out the 1.9 patch, and then hopefully have a decent chunk of those deciding to stay, but to answer the OP's question, I would most definitely wait until the 1.9 patch came out at least, maybe even the 2.0 patch.
While my account is active so that I can get the 6 month wings come the middle of may, I havent really played it in the last few weeks and probably wont play until 1.9 comes out next month. I have 6 toons all at level 30 or above and the grind is killing the enjoyability of the game. I might play for a double xp weekened if it comes up but other then that I hop 1.9 brings some fun back to the game like I have been hearing from people playing the Korean version.
I still keep an eye on Aion, and talk to my old guild on vent, in the hopes that NCS start to do the right thing by it, so maybe I can give you an obvjective view.
How is Aion doing?
Well... it seems the time since launch has been mainly spent fixing technical/ launch issues and balancing the game, to the point many that still play call it a paid beta, and all but the oldest core servers seem to have pop issues (I know kahrun is particularly bad for instance) with very few new joiners and a diminishing player base of high levels.
What issues are you talking about? I can only think of the bots/gold spamming issue and the fortress crashes, and these were fixed long ago, months ago.
Yes, but it took a long time for NCS to nail them yes? A long time to fix core issues (stability and player protection) that should have been nailed in beta and in place before release.
Instead they devoted paid live dev time to doing this, which is my point.
What do you mean by balancing the game? I don't recall anything being done regarding this.
You are not aware that even NCS state that the game is undergoing ongoing balance revisions for core issues that should have been resolved in beta? Do you not read patch notes?
How about the fix to the medal reward systems?
Even today people complain vocally about the poor investment vs reward in terms of poor poor drop rates and unfullfilling crafting. Even NCS acknowledge this and say they are working on adjusting it.
This is all not to mention the fixes 1.9 will bring in, fixes that represent time that should have been spend developing rather then patching holes.
Paid beta? This is the most polished MMO release I've ever experienced.
actually, a huge portion of the game (mass combat in the abyss), and a big part of what attracted many, was unplayable for a vast number at launch due to instability.
The GFX were mostly turned off (and still are...) because NCS couldnt get the game stable with them running...
There is maybe 10% of the 'fluff' included most would expect of a modern MMORPG... no mounts, no housing, nothing really beyond the bare bones of what qualifies as a 'RPG'.
How is that 'polished'?
All but the newest servers, aka the ones added post-launch, have decent populations, obviously some more than others.
You are just repeating what I said here, though in a different way.
despite what the more enthusiastic of it's fans tell you, the pop is still shrinking at an alarming rate.
Not true, as even xfire shows Aion is still at nb9.
I put no value in Xfire as a sample tool, and nor should you.
In addition, most economies seems fubar with hyper inflation caused by artifical kinah (even if you cant now see the bots), creating a barrier to play for newbs, and hacks (which NCS do not ban for using, only suspend) are used in plain sight.
Economy has gotten much better and is still getting better gradually. Some people use hacks, though it's just an extremely small percentage of bored players, it's nearly a non-issue, but hopefully they eradicate those as well.
No, economies are not, at least on kahrun. this is false, prices are rising and the barrier to new entry is getting steeper and steeper. All I read on the message boards says this is the same all over.
The fact is that NCS dont care about hacks... i dont know how you think they will vanish... NCS policy says that using a hack is a suspension, NOT a ban. this is a clearly ridiculous stance in a competitive based play PvP game.
You down playing the issue and pretending it's less then it is will not motivate NCS to taking a harder stance towards it either. In the end you get the game you demand right?
Content hasnt increased at all as far as I know and is still literally JUST enough for one play through with no repetition.
Agreed, content is just enough for one play through with no repetition.
The PvP is all gank and zerg, requiring little skill, and you WILL spend the first 30 pvp levels being constantly killed by the same old twinked out alts of high level players 10 levels above you while you try to lvl. If you remark on this in a public channel you will be told to QQ nub, L2P, and go back to wow.
The PvP is inconsistent. There's ganking, there's zerging, but it's not all that. A lot of times there are extremely fun fights that take place in the abyss, group vs group, 3vs3 even though it's rare, and skill and experience play a big part in these kinds of situations, more so than gear.
Dredgion can be very fun as well, and it's getting fixed in 1.9 to make it even better. Rifting is also great, some of the best fun you can have in PvP.
When PvP happens, it's great. That's the only thing NC has to do: Make PvP more accessible.
There are non-rifting zones you can level in, and it's really easy to avoid ganking if you know where the rifts spawn.
Oh. come on... you are using maybe 1% of fights to justify the whole system.
99% of the time Aion PvP is gank and zerg, where gear and levels rule, and you know that as well as I do.
Dred is bascially a mini game, so it's funny that you use that to recomend Aions open world PvP.
The vocal community, in LFG, is apparently on kahrun still as nasty and trollish as ever, made even worse now by bored L50s who have nothing to do except act like dicks. the fact that so many different countries share the same servers, though not the same language, and the fact that PvP games seems to attract the biggest assholes by their nature, and you have a fragmented and often hostile 'community'.
You're overreacting, every game has its fair share of asshats. The gankers can be annoying, though that's just an added incentive to do the same to their kind. Mostly the factions do hate each other in-game, even though on the forums they get along pretty well (mostly).
You don't have a fragmented and hostile community, in fact the threat from the other faction often consolidates the relations between players from the same faction, and more so guilds of the same faction, which plays a huge role in fortress sieging.
I am just calling it as I see it on Kahrun. Do you play there? Do you know that i am overreacting?
No.
The vocal 'community', as emphasised, is nasty and malicious on the whole.
On the up side, Aion remains a lovely looking game that has some great ideas (though often very poorly implemented)that is worth buying to play through for a month or two. Just dont expect more then that from it... because NCS obviously dont.
Maybe patch 2.0 will finally save this game and finally bring it up to the release standard that I expect in a modern MMORPG... Maybe all those cancelled accounts will return then, because i dont see many peoplecoming back for 1.9 alone. I hope so though, because at it's heart there is an amazing game struggling to live and it only takes NCS to make a few good choices for it to be great.
The truth is though that by the time Aion is finished to release quality other games looming on the horizon will be here and many will simply opt for them instead. I do not see Aion soaring to the heights we all so hoped for a while back... it won't die or anything, but it won't now be anything more then just another niche korean pvp grinder.
Please, let the people who compare Aion to a korean grinder, actually PLAY a korean grinder before saying things like that that are so far from the truth it's laughable.
You dont know me or know what I have played, so please don't pull assumptions out of your ass?
Even though in some parts you made it appear as if you were simply trolling, I don't think that's the case, though a lot of the info you posted is simply wrong.
I am sorry, but you seem to be the kind of guy that declares aeveryone that dosent agree with him as a 'troll', even indirectly as an insinuation, and thats just silly. Also, lets maybe try to not polarise the debate as much as possible?
EDIT: Aion has alot, ALOT of issues. However from what you posted, the lack of content and accessibility of PvP are the only things that really qualify as issues. What else is wrong with the game? that's for another thread.
The lack of content and inaccessible PvP are the only issues? lol Arnt these the very core of the game? Indeed, with little to no fluff to speak of, arnt these ALL of the game?
You have basically just said that Aion's entire core gameplay has issues... o.0
Listen, I will just answer your points and leave it at that if thats ok? I have no interest in a long drawn out debate... nothing you can say will reinvent my personal experiences with the game, or how I feel about it now, so there really isnt much point beyond this for me.
Have the final word, by all means, but I will withdraw from this now. I have only spoken about how I honestly found the game, it's up to others what they do with it.
Yes, but it took a long time for NCS to nail them yes? A long time to fix core issues (stability and player protection) that should have been nailed in beta and in place before release.
I totally agree that bots/gold spammers should have been kept to a bare minimum since launch.
The other issue (fortress siege crashing) couldn't be nailed in beta and before release, because it was never an issue anywhere else in the world, so it cropped up as soon as players started getting high levels and siege with huge numbers. It took around 2weeks to fix the problem, a new problem which they had 0 information about so they had to gather it, experiment, and finally fix the issue.I don't think this was a long time, considering the circumstances.
You are not aware that even NCS state that the game is undergoing ongoing balance revisions for core issues that should have been resolved in beta? Do you not read patch notes?
All MMO games always undergo balance revisions and changes, and balancing is always an ongoing process.
How about the fix to the medal reward systems?
It was never really "bugged", so it wasn't really fixed, more of improved, which is pretty normal for every developer to do, improve their game.
actually, a huge portion of the game (mass combat in the abyss), and a big part of what attracted many, was unplayable for a vast number at launch due to instability.
It wasn't instability, it was the cryengine.dll bug which again was never accounted for (since all same versions of the game elsewhere never had it). It was crashes, which they fixed a couple of weeks later.
There is maybe 10% of the 'fluff' included most would expect of a modern MMORPG... no mounts, no housing, nothing really beyond the bare bones of what qualifies as a 'RPG'.
How is that 'polished'?
It was polished in that everything that is in-game works, except for 1single bug that was eradicated within a couple of weeks. It's not the lack of "fluff" that qualifies the game to be polished or not, even though I would love to have them.On a side note, it's the only MMO since WoW that was polished and playable at launch, along with LOTRO, not like the recent dross that were released as a paid-beta.
I put no value in Xfire as a sample tool, and nor should you.
I also said that by experience and from someone still playing the game, the server activity has barely changed since 4months on both servers I play on, which again hardly qualifies as "shrinking at an alarming rate". Population is decreasing slowly. Hopefully it's going to pick up with 1.9.
Oh. come on... you are using maybe 1% of fights to justify the whole system.
99% of the time Aion PvP is gank and zerg, where gear and levels rule, and you know that as well as I do.
Dred is bascially a mini game, so it's funny that you use that to recomend Aions open world PvP.
1%? oh please, and I'm not justifying anything, I'm telling it as it is. Depending on level ranges, rifting/decent abyss pvp could easily cover 40%, providing you know where to look for it. That's why it's situational and not very accessible for everyone, you have to search for it.
I'm not saying I like it the way it is at the moment, but you are simply wrong to say that it's worthless, because a lot of fun can be had, it's just that we still can't experience it fully, but it has great potential and just a few small fixes could change it from "ok" to "great".
I'm not recommending anything to anyone, I'm simply saying you're wrong. I don't care whether it's open world PvP or not, Dred can be extremely fun, and that's the whole point of a game.
You dont know me or know what I have played, so please don't pull assumptions out of your ass?
It's really not hard to figure out whether you've played one or not.
There is absolutely no chance for anyone who has ever played one calling Aion a korean grinder. If you play it right, it takes only slightly more time to reach max level than vanilla WoW. There's plenty of diversity while leveling as well.
I am sorry, but you seem to be the kind of guy that declares aeveryone that dosent agree with him as a 'troll', even indirectly as an insinuation, and thats just silly. Also, lets maybe try to not polarise the debate as much as possible?
You think too much. I was just saying that I understood why the previous person would think you were just here to bash on the game. I hate polarizing debates as much as the next guy, and I simply didn't try to polarize anything.
The lack of content and inaccessible PvP are the only issues? lol Arnt these the very core of the game? Indeed, with little to no fluff to speak of, arnt these ALL of the game?
You have basically just said that Aion's entire core gameplay has issues... o.0
I didn't say they were the only issues, I said there were alot more issues, including them. Are these at the core of the game? yes they are.
All the game? Not really. Because if it was then people would never stick around for anything. You fail to see the good things about the game, and it has a lot of positives as well as negatives. It has core issues, but at the same time it has core elements that are really great.
I'm not the one trying to polarize the debate, you are. Even the most shitty games ever have some good points.
Listen, I will just answer your points and leave it at that if thats ok? I have no interest in a long drawn out debate... nothing you can say will reinvent my personal experiences with the game, or how I feel about it now, so there really isnt much point beyond this for me.
You read my mind, it's good that you decided it 'cause I don't feel like it either.No game's for everyone.
Have the final word, by all means, but I will withdraw from this now. I have only spoken about how I honestly found the game, it's up to others what they do with it.
I'm sorry I'm having the last word, but I just wanted to make some things clearer on some points.
the reason my friends stopped playing was they felt like they were just jumping guilds. they'd join a guild and soon they'd be the only active players left - they'd join another and the same thing happened. it was too hard for them to find the game interesting when people werent staying in the game. well that and the grinding, but they liked the animations and stuff.
I just recently quit myself , while I have to admit that I really do like this game I find it hard to stay interested in it due to lack of content and gear grind , Dying population and just overall lack of support.
The upcoming patches seem more like things that should have been done way before this game was released to the public for retail play, Balance issues between Races ( weapons and such only being openly available to Elyos and not Asmo ) , Account security issues , Lag and bots/spam have actually made this game rather annoying in the past few months for a majorty of the playerbase and since ive started in beta i've seen this game slowly going downhill.
I would say that in my opinion its no longer worth playing until they either merge some servers or add a massive content patch with a higher level cap and more things to entertain the community with cause last I checked on my server the Abyss is dead and pvp is too 1 sided when it does happen.
I recently quit as well. Its a cool concept. I find it wierd its as if you can feel it when old man death finds his way to an MMo. Some simply die out right while other linger on sitting on life support hoping for the uber come back. I wonder how Aion will fair his arrival ?
I recently found new enjoyment in Aion by switching factions. Ive been leveling 5 characters to 30 on Elyos side to get the Daevonian armor set + weapon and its nice to see the other side for a change. I had 2 (50) Asmodian characters and got tired of the "end game" so this has been a refreshing change. I actually am going to stop leveling my new main(chanter) once I get the set and just strictly go rifting with him since I dont feel like leveling to 50 again for the same end game I just left.
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The game hasnt changed much since launch so if you found it boring before, you still will. If you are waiting for major changes try back after 2.0 IMO which is later this year
hi there i bought a 15 day card and return after 3 months, and i can tell you the gorgos server its healthy with population on both sides, and the bots are almost gone!, and the comunitty its very adult and much better than 3/4 months ago, i returned to my old legion and people always ask me if i need help on quests and stuff, i think i give a second chance till 1.9 patch.
From what I've gathered from my friends who played it briefly was that it's a decent game, although very niche. It mostly appeals to people who love grinding / Koreans. It has good character customisation in terms of physical appearance (although not much mechanics-wise), and some slick combo animations during combat. I never got around to trying it but by now they've probably done their fair share of fixing up, so perhaps it's about time to get a trial account going.
its of course sad the population is so low - mmos thrive on community... well except WoW perhaps
I still keep an eye on Aion, and talk to my old guild on vent, in the hopes that NCS start to do the right thing by it, so maybe I can give you an obvjective view.
How is Aion doing?
Well... it seems the time since launch has been mainly spent fixing technical/ launch issues and balancing the game, to the point many that still play call it a paid beta, and all but the oldest core servers seem to have pop issues (I know kahrun is particularly bad for instance) with very few new joiners and a diminishing player base of high levels.
despite what the more enthusiastic of it's fans tell you, the pop is still shrinking at an alarming rate.
In addition, most economies seems fubar with hyper inflation caused by artifical kinah (even if you cant now see the bots), creating a barrier to play for newbs, and hacks (which NCS do not ban for using, only suspend) are used in plain sight.
Content hasnt increased at all as far as I know and is still literally JUST enough for one play through with no repetition.
The PvP is all gank and zerg, requiring little skill, and you WILL spend the first 30 pvp levels being constantly killed by the same old twinked out alts of high level players 10 levels above you while you try to lvl. If you remark on this in a public channel you will be told to QQ nub, L2P, and go back to wow.
The vocal community, in LFG, is apparently on kahrun still as nasty and trollish as ever, made even worse now by bored L50s who have nothing to do except act like dicks. the fact that so many different countries share the same servers, though not the same language, and the fact that PvP games seems to attract the biggest assholes by their nature, and you have a fragmented and often hostile 'community'.
On the up side, Aion remains a lovely looking game that has some great ideas (though often very poorly implemented)that is worth buying to play through for a month or two. Just dont expect more then that from it... because NCS obviously dont.
Maybe patch 2.0 will finally save this game and finally bring it up to the release standard that I expect in a modern MMORPG... Maybe all those cancelled accounts will return then, because i dont see many peoplecoming back for 1.9 alone. I hope so though, because at it's heart there is an amazing game struggling to live and it only takes NCS to make a few good choices for it to be great.
The truth is though that by the time Aion is finished to release quality other games looming on the horizon will be here and many will simply opt for them instead. I do not see Aion soaring to the heights we all so hoped for a while back... it won't die or anything, but it won't now be anything more then just another niche korean pvp grinder.
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Wll well, you can almost taste the bitterness in his mouth cant you. This post sounds like you had a very bad experience on kahrun server. And as always with mmorpg.com, you thought you wold leave a negative post. so sad.
As for being a played beta? This is one of the most polished games to leave a dev team. And the population is doing nicely on most servers. Just the newest ones i belive are abit low.
lol am I bitter? No... I just call it as i see it, for good or bad. Do I post negative all the time? lol ofc not, don't be silly. It just so happens that in aion's case there is a lot of bad. I am sorry if that offends you. What I posted is true and valid, even if you don't like it.
I will not even start to discuss 'polished' with you, as it seems we have very different ideas of what that means... It seems your standards are way lower then mine and you are more easily impressed, but thats fine.
Btw, your sig says treat how you wish to be treated... does this mean i get to dismiss your views out of hand, without bothering to discuss it with you, and try to insult you by labelling you as 'sad'?
If you want to come back to aion come back at 1.9 or 2.0
I'm sorry but I just don't think you know enough about the game or have played it recently, which is fine.
Even though in some parts you made it appear as if you were simply trolling, I don't think that's the case, though a lot of the info you posted is simply wrong.
EDIT: Aion has alot, ALOT of issues. However from what you posted, the lack of content and accessibility of PvP are the only things that really qualify as issues. What else is wrong with the game? that's for another thread.
/Sigh, you do realize that the Korean version has been out for at least a year by now, and I think we've been waiting on the 1.9 patch, for what 2-3 months? So yes, we do want it now, because we have been waiting for a while for fixes to make the game better (Hell some should have come in the start, Sanctum tele much?) As a continuous player of aion, I for one can say its population is most certainly not fine, and more people are leaving then coming, and more likely then not, all the new players you see are alts. although I have no doubt we will see a large chunk of the player base returning to check out the 1.9 patch, and then hopefully have a decent chunk of those deciding to stay, but to answer the OP's question, I would most definitely wait until the 1.9 patch came out at least, maybe even the 2.0 patch.
While my account is active so that I can get the 6 month wings come the middle of may, I havent really played it in the last few weeks and probably wont play until 1.9 comes out next month. I have 6 toons all at level 30 or above and the grind is killing the enjoyability of the game. I might play for a double xp weekened if it comes up but other then that I hop 1.9 brings some fun back to the game like I have been hearing from people playing the Korean version.
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Listen, I will just answer your points and leave it at that if thats ok? I have no interest in a long drawn out debate... nothing you can say will reinvent my personal experiences with the game, or how I feel about it now, so there really isnt much point beyond this for me.
Have the final word, by all means, but I will withdraw from this now. I have only spoken about how I honestly found the game, it's up to others what they do with it.
the reason my friends stopped playing was they felt like they were just jumping guilds. they'd join a guild and soon they'd be the only active players left - they'd join another and the same thing happened. it was too hard for them to find the game interesting when people werent staying in the game. well that and the grinding, but they liked the animations and stuff.
I just recently quit myself , while I have to admit that I really do like this game I find it hard to stay interested in it due to lack of content and gear grind , Dying population and just overall lack of support.
The upcoming patches seem more like things that should have been done way before this game was released to the public for retail play, Balance issues between Races ( weapons and such only being openly available to Elyos and not Asmo ) , Account security issues , Lag and bots/spam have actually made this game rather annoying in the past few months for a majorty of the playerbase and since ive started in beta i've seen this game slowly going downhill.
I would say that in my opinion its no longer worth playing until they either merge some servers or add a massive content patch with a higher level cap and more things to entertain the community with cause last I checked on my server the Abyss is dead and pvp is too 1 sided when it does happen.
I recently quit as well. Its a cool concept. I find it wierd its as if you can feel it when old man death finds his way to an MMo. Some simply die out right while other linger on sitting on life support hoping for the uber come back. I wonder how Aion will fair his arrival ?
I recently found new enjoyment in Aion by switching factions. Ive been leveling 5 characters to 30 on Elyos side to get the Daevonian armor set + weapon and its nice to see the other side for a change. I had 2 (50) Asmodian characters and got tired of the "end game" so this has been a refreshing change. I actually am going to stop leveling my new main(chanter) once I get the set and just strictly go rifting with him since I dont feel like leveling to 50 again for the same end game I just left.