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Global Agenda = 3rd person Team Fortress 2.... Not an MMO and definitely not worth $15 a month...

rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722


I just played the trial, and I have to say, this game is not worth a monthly fee and it is only a copy of Team Fortress 2...


Why does this game have a monthly fee?  Its not even an MMO, its a 3rd person TF2 with a lobby you walk around in on the outside of matches instead of using the steam server browser...


 


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  • SpezzSpezz Member Posts: 141

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    I just played the trial, and I have to say.  This game is a mix between Huxley and Team Fortress 2. 


     


    TF2 = actual gameplay


    Huxley = the queue systems (where you walk around the town between matches)


     


    Why does this game require a monthly fee?  Its not even an MMO, its a 3rd person TF2 with a lobby you walk around in on the outside of matches instead of using the steam server browser...


     


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    The monthly fee is optional, not required.

  • NamicoNamico Member Posts: 40


    What fee? isnt that game suppost to be free to play, and has an optional conquest subscription?

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Spezz

     


     


    The monthly fee is optional, not required.


     


     


    But if you don't pay it, you don't get all the default features other games normally have.

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Namico


    What fee? isnt that game suppost to be free to play, and has an optional conquest subscription?


     


    $15 a month for more features that games normally have by default.

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  • DreathorDreathor Member Posts: 537


    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    I just played the trial, and I have to say, this game is not worth a monthly fee and it is only a copy of Team Fortress 2... Why does this game have a monthly fee?  Its not even an MMO, its a 3rd person TF2 with a lobby you walk around in on the outside of matches instead of using the steam server browser...   Whats the deal?

    The deal is the persistent Alliance vs Alliance conquest maps.

    The deal is the content updates coming soon, which include open world zones with lots of pvp content.

    The deal is a lot more which you're bound to not bother reading or researching before you post these silly threads, so I won't bother either.

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  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by Dreathor


     







    The deal is the persistent Alliance vs Alliance conquest maps.


    The deal is the content updates coming soon, which include open world zones with lots of pvp content.


    The deal is a lot more which you're bound to not bother reading or researching before you post these silly threads, so I won't bother either.


     


    The deal is, the devs of this game want $15 a month for a game that is only TF2 with jet packs.

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  • NightCloakNightCloak Member UncommonPosts: 452


    I played the game and found that the game does play like other FPS games. But the non-sub part contains just the things you would get if you bought a game for box price without a sub.


    All of the subbed content (AvA and crafting) all contain elements of a persistant pvp combat that is not found in any of Global Agenda's peers. If you even take Battlefield Bad Company 2, which has 4 classes named the same as GA, you have unlocks in BFBC2 and progression, but no persistant world combat or talent specializations. 


     


    I dont subscribe and so far I find that GA is comparable to any other shooter out there at box price. I wont sub since I don't find the subbed content to cater to the time I have available to play.

  • jimsmith08jimsmith08 Member Posts: 1,039

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987

    Originally posted by Spezz


     


     


    The monthly fee is optional, not required.


     


     


    But if you don't pay it, you don't get all the default features other games normally have.


    such as?

  • fluffybunifluffybuni Member Posts: 29


    AvA will no long be a "default" feature when 1.3 comes out, they attempt to improve the game with more features such as open world pvp/pve. The intial fee of 39.99 is suppose to be for people who just want to play the boxed version, the sub is so you can join the "persistent" world of GA. At the moment there isn't much of a point in subbing, but there will be when patch 1.3 arrives; which is at the end of april.

  • SilacoidSilacoid Member UncommonPosts: 237

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987


    I just played the trial, and I have to say, this game is not worth a monthly fee and it is only a copy of Team Fortress 2...


    Why does this game have a monthly fee?  Its not even an MMO, its a 3rd person TF2 with a lobby you walk around in on the outside of matches instead of using the steam server browser...


     


    Whats the deal? imageimage


    When you know the fee is optional, and you are able to play all of the features of TF2 type game plus more, why are you sitting around complaining.  The conquest sub is free until the end of April, and there is a huge update slated for April to address this issue.  Maybe you should just wait instead of making this into a big deal right now when you are lacking information.

  • CzargioCzargio Member Posts: 183


    Sounds like you should just keep playing TF2 :D

  • KostKost Member CommonPosts: 1,975

    I hate TF2 with a passion.

    I am finding GA to be quite entertaining, to say the least. Calling it TF2 with jetpacks is pretty insulting, to be frank, the game has a hell of alot more depth than TF2 ever had or will ever have.

    Different strokes?

  • EricDanieEricDanie Member UncommonPosts: 2,238

    Originally posted by rlmccoy1987



    I just played the trial, and I have to say, this game is not worth a monthly fee and it is only a copy of Team Fortress 2...

    Why does this game have a monthly fee?  Its not even an MMO, its a 3rd person TF2 with a lobby you walk around in on the outside of matches instead of using the steam server browser...

     

    Whats the deal? imageimage

    Monthly fee is for the persistent world content which is currently lacking and the reason they aren't charging for it until the end of April, but hey, I'm pretty sure you're enjoying that persistent world content in TF2, aren't you?

  • SlineerSlineer Member Posts: 246

    Calling an interactive map a persistant world is a joke.  I have no problems with GA, a lot of people like it, its not for me. However my one issue with it is this map used for AvA constantly being called a persistant world. It is a picture, you cant play in it, you can look at it and then join an instance. It is not persistant and it sure isn't a world.

  • MrbloodworthMrbloodworth Member Posts: 5,615

    First, First, iy has influances of TF2 but is by no means a "clone" spending more than 10 minutes would tell you this.

    Second, its a full fleadged shooter with a nice price, this included dedicated servers.

    Third, its not 15$ a month, AND a subscription has never been charged to date, and will not untill after the next content update is added, if not well after that as well.

    Please, for the love of all that is holy, play the game (It is clear you have not), and read up on what you are about to rant on.

    As for "Default features", you are wrong. Dead wrong. Unless you want to tell me TF2 has a tearratory/mineing/and mech/siege constructing gameplay, as well as an entire PvE system and crafting.

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  • LansidLansid Member UncommonPosts: 1,097

    Originally posted by Mrbloodworth



    First, First, iy has influances of TF2 but is by no means a "clone" spending more than 10 minutes would tell you this.

    Unless their first experience in PvP was *cough* PAYLOAD *cough* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEFS_2AW2RM then it's pretty damned similar. Other than that you're right. In TF2 I can choose dedicated servers that specify what map(s) they're playing rather than play mercenary-misson-roulette ending up in gameplay modes or maps that I'm sick to death of (babysit the bot).

    Second, its a full fleadged shooter with a nice price, this included dedicated servers.

    I'm sorry... define " full fleadged shooter" plz?

    Third, its not 15$ a month, AND a subscription has never been charged to date, and will not untill after the next content update is added, if not well after that as well.

    And this is a good thing... because if it doesn't go the way of "Guild Wars", it'll go the way of "Tabula Rasa".

    Please, for the love of all that is holy, play the game (It is clear you have not), and read up on what you are about to rant on.

    I only have around 13ish hours of gameplay into it, a few toons in their teens and haven't played since the 2/25, have PvE'd and PvP'd but haven't done the AvA yet as most of the time the AvA maps were "locked" when I was on to play or couldn't get in a pick up group.

    As for "Default features", you are wrong. Dead wrong. Unless you want to tell me TF2 has a tearratory/mineing/and mech/siege constructing gameplay, as well as an entire PvE system and crafting.

    With TF2 I got what I expected... With Global Agenda I was expecting something similar to Planetside and Tribes 2. In other words I expected too much.

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  • Recon415Recon415 Member Posts: 55

    Ok, so the point of this thread is that the game is not for everyone. That's why there's now a trial. Secondly, by playing the trial only, you haven't seen 1/20th of the actual game, and am horribly restricted. Thirdly, the subscription is OPTIONAL, and the original gameplay (shooter, etc) is the retail price. Map updates and such will continue to add to the original game.

    I have computers; they are fast.

  • ThomasN7ThomasN7 87.18.7.148Member CommonPosts: 6,690

    There will always be people who pay for things others do not but I agree, there is no need for a monthly fee for this game at all. I would rather see them charge for downloadable content and expansions.

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  • WizardryWizardry Member LegendaryPosts: 19,332

    I was trying my best to get into the game,but the tutorial part seemed to break down as i was goofing around with the jetpacks i died and the game seemed to come to a halt,i couldn't do anything or get through any doors lol.SO i had to quit playing it before ieven got to really get into any real combat,the tutorial as expected was far too simple for me to get any grasp o nthe game.

    What i did notice was it seems you play for credits/currency and you will gain some definite advantages in PVP using this system,not sure but it looks like a bad setup,one i didn't like in CODMW2 either.

    ALso since they used the unreal engine,they SHOULD have incorporated DODGING ,it would have a definite spot in this game.I wanted to get further along so i could see if the game has any weapon versatility for each player,other than picking a different class and how well the maps were laid out for constructive PVP,all very important factors that i never got to see.

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  • spookydomspookydom Member UncommonPosts: 1,782

    This is not intended to be trolling, just my experiance. Have only tried 5 pve missions but got to say the community put me off strate away. Had experiance of people leaving the squad just becouse I was on a trial and insults. Global chat seems to be full of retards to an extent I haven't seen since I left wow over a year ago.  The game itself seems sound and the one mission I did get to the end of  was quiet enjoyable. Maybe I haven't played it enough to get a balanced opinion but my inital impresions where not good. No disrespect to anybody who enjoys the game (apart from the aformentioned retards in global) and I am grateful for getting a chance to play it.

  • Its funny how the OP heavily edits his posts to hide is rather large amount of ignorance and then continues to trash the game in another thread like he knows what he is talking about.

     

    Anyway a number of people on these forums, myself included, have said they are not convinced the sub is worth the price but that the basic game is an ok deal if you like this sort of gameplay.


  • Originally posted by spookydom



    This is not intended to be trolling, just my experiance. Have only tried 5 pve missions but got to say the community put me off strate away. Had experiance of people leaving the squad just becouse I was on a trial and insults. Global chat seems to be full of retards to an extent I haven't seen since I left wow over a year ago.  The game itself seems sound and the one mission I did get to the end of  was quiet enjoyable. Maybe I haven't played it enough to get a balanced opinion but my inital impresions where not good. No disrespect to anybody who enjoys the game (apart from the aformentioned retards in global) and I am grateful for getting a chance to play it.

    No I don't think you are wrong.  But in general buy once then F2P type games have atrocious communities outside of a clan/guild.  Also the starter zones of most MMOs I have played in the last two years are pretty atrocious in the chat channels.  The Barrens Chat Phenomenon is spreading I am sorry to inform you.

    It is true in Guild Wars and also tends to be true in non-persistent online games as well.

  • rlmccoy1987rlmccoy1987 Member Posts: 1,722

    Originally posted by gestalt11



    Its funny how the OP heavily edits his posts to hide is rather large amount of ignorance and then continues to trash the game in another thread like he knows what he is talking about.

     

     

     

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  • LansidLansid Member UncommonPosts: 1,097

    Originally posted by SaintViktor



    There will always be people who pay for things others do not but I agree, there is no need for a monthly fee for this game at all. I would rather see them charge for downloadable content and expansions.

    Second. The game is fun... but in its current state no where near monthly fee fun.

    I hope it goes the route of Guild Wars as far as lack of monthly fee but purchasable content (not a full blown item shop) and doesn't restrict players from "premium content".

    This could easily go the route of Hellgate: London. If it were as wide open as Planetside to explore and do what you wanted then I could justify paying monthly to play, but with all the cramped, instanced, TF2-style game modes and a weak PvE mode... it HAS tons of potential but none that I'd pay any fee for right now.

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  • NightCloakNightCloak Member UncommonPosts: 452

    The game is fun.

    The character progression and specializations are really cool aspects of the game.

    However, the biggest drawback for me is the very low number of maps and the severe restriction of the map space. The more open maps have very low invisible ceilings and tend to keep space restricted around the objectives. It limits strategy a lot.

    I'd love to see some CTF maps in there as well as a larger variety maps. Like adding some rather open maps and some indoor and tight spaced maps.

    Reg box price without sub offers more than TF2.

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