If they are charging people the same price as an AAA title then they have every right to expect an AAA title, not a game that looks like it was made in 10 minutes.
Exactly. If they want people to have lesser expectations, then lessen the fees. Based on the videos so far, this is looking like it should be free, or micro payments at a market place.
This game is compared to other games on the market, because its in the same genre. Its like why mid-size sedans are stacked against other mid-size sedans. Lower end models are of course cheaper to make it an incentive for people to buy by getting more for less money.
Who cares if this game is made by 8 people in their basement if they can't come up with a decent game. Mount&Blade (the original) was made by 2 people in their home-office, and that game is a smash success.
Why be so critical of indie developers? Why be so critical of AAA titles? Why is it that as soon as SWTOR information is launched, people get to dissect it, like the information was released for their own personal review, but as soon as a game like Xyson is getting ready to release we all have to close our mouths and be supportive while they create something shoddy and unstable.
Sorry but lets not be hypocrites here. This games combat looks terrible. If you aim to prove otherwise I suggest those of you in beta who have first hand knowledge start posting more videos of the good aspects or deal with it.
I agree with most of your statements.
But saying that M&B is a smash success is just wrong.
A smash success may be stretching it, but it is a successful title. High fan reviews, mediocre critic fanfare, but a gameplay style that you really can't find anywhere else. It definitely has a strong cult following. Obviously its not topping charts or anything though, so with that I would have to agree.
It also completely justifies comparing Xsyon to other games that charge $15 per month.
Mind naming some MMOs that are not F2P, that are P2P that are less than 12$ a month? (Dont count cash shops either).
I am not entirely certain whether you are serious with this statement or just using it for the sake of argument. After all, a multi-month subscription of most MMO games is currently at or under 12$ a month. For example both LotRO and EVE you will get a 6-month subscription for little under 12$ a month. For other titles that are of a more direct comparison to Xsyon one could name Ryzom which costs under 12$ a month even for just 1-month subscription. With Ryzom you also will have a chance to test the game for free for 21 days and, therefore, there's no extra price from the game client. Also, comparing 12$ to 15$ is a tad silly as already per annum you will pay 36$ more which equals to 3 months of game time for those 12$ games.
This game is compared to other games on the market, because its in the same genre. Its like why mid-size sedans are stacked against other mid-size sedans. Lower end models are of course cheaper to make it an incentive for people to buy by getting more for less money.
Who cares if this game is made by 8 people in their basement if they can't come up with a decent game. Mount&Blade (the original) was made by 2 people in their home-office, and that game is a smash success.
Why be so critical of indie developers? Why be so critical of AAA titles? Why is it that as soon as SWTOR information is launched, people get to dissect it, like the information was released for their own personal review, but as soon as a game like Xyson is getting ready to release we all have to close our mouths and be supportive while they create something shoddy and unstable.
Sorry but lets not be hypocrites here. This games combat looks terrible. If you aim to prove otherwise I suggest those of you in beta who have first hand knowledge start posting more videos of the good aspects or deal with it.
I agree with most of your statements.
But saying that M&B is a smash success is just wrong.
A smash success may be stretching it, but it is a successful title. High fan reviews, mediocre critic fanfare, but a gameplay style that you really can't find anywhere else. It definitely has a strong cult following. Obviously its not topping charts or anything though, so with that I would have to agree.
I don't see how we could shit on the game with the release of one combat video.
I mean its one character spamming melee attack and another spamming block lol.
Where's the Archery? Where's the Magic? what about actual melee abilities or even different weapons?
I don't see how anyone could totally judge the games combat already.
Aren't we all jumping the gun here?
Would you like me to link you two characters in WoW back in 04 just auto attacking each other down? was it fair to judge them that early?
This game is compared to other games on the market, because its in the same genre. Its like why mid-size sedans are stacked against other mid-size sedans. Lower end models are of course cheaper to make it an incentive for people to buy by getting more for less money.
Who cares if this game is made by 8 people in their basement if they can't come up with a decent game. Mount&Blade (the original) was made by 2 people in their home-office, and that game is a smash success.
Why be so critical of indie developers? Why be so critical of AAA titles? Why is it that as soon as SWTOR information is launched, people get to dissect it, like the information was released for their own personal review, but as soon as a game like Xyson is getting ready to release we all have to close our mouths and be supportive while they create something shoddy and unstable.
Sorry but lets not be hypocrites here. This games combat looks terrible. If you aim to prove otherwise I suggest those of you in beta who have first hand knowledge start posting more videos of the good aspects or deal with it.
I agree with most of your statements.
But saying that M&B is a smash success is just wrong.
A smash success may be stretching it, but it is a successful title. High fan reviews, mediocre critic fanfare, but a gameplay style that you really can't find anywhere else. It definitely has a strong cult following. Obviously its not topping charts or anything though, so with that I would have to agree.
I don't see how we could shit on the game with the release of one combat video.
I mean its one character spamming melee attack and another spamming block lol.
Where's the Archery? Where's the Magic? what about actual melee abilities or even different weapons?
I don't see how anyone could totally judge the games combat already.
Aren't we all jumping the gun here?
Would you like me to link you two characters in WoW back in 04 just auto attacking each other down? was it fair to judge them that early?
This is the 2nd combat video I've seen. Both of them were frightfully terrible but this one at least had loud obnoxious sound effects. I can turn sound effects off, but quite seriously the combat in both videos was terrible.
Wheres the archery? Wheres the magic? Wheres the weapons, armor, and melee abilities?
Thats the question isn't it? I don't know where any of that is, because noone has shown me it. They also haven't shown me PvE content, or extensive terraforming aside from a tree falling down and a couple plots of road being placed.
How do I know the PvE content won't be flying high above my head, or teleporting? How do I know there will even be PvE content?
Your guess is as good as mine rockgod. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying this game will automatically be terrible, but I'm saying from what I've seen, this game isn't looking good. If you are in beta, show me what you see that makes the game good, thats what I want to see. If I wanted to see a barren world with 2 people whacking away at eachother I'd play MO.
I don't see how we could shit on the game with the release of one combat video.
I mean its one character spamming melee attack and another spamming block lol.
Where's the Archery? Where's the Magic? what about actual melee abilities or even different weapons?
I don't see how anyone could totally judge the games combat already.
Aren't we all jumping the gun here?
Would you like me to link you two characters in WoW back in 04 just auto attacking each other down? was it fair to judge them that early?
I think that people from beta are the only ones able to inform us. We can only make assumptions based on what we see on these videos and, from what I've seen, all of the combat videos have been the same. Certainly, they've stated that there is a number of disabled features and a host of bug fixes that are easy to implent to currently malfunctioning ones. One can project these arguments to ones provided by previous sandbox smash hits, including Mortal Online and Darkfall, that both have had loads of content ready to be installed and simple fixes to existing problems. I am not saying that Xsyon will be the same, but taking everything they say at the face-value is equally ignorant.
Therefore, we are not jumping the gun here, we are solely being concerned would-be customers. If they are able to provide us with an entertaining game both PvE- and PvP-wise with the features they have listed on their web pages, atleast I am more than willing to give this game a try. As it stands, there are way more promises than actual content shown.
And, you asked for WoW auto attack fight from '04. I think this piece is from '03, from US closed beta, at around one minute mark you can see two undeads fighting one another and only at the end they use some form of a finisher. It is followed by some melee fighting combined with casts by a shaman. I would dare to say that those animations are pretty decent and compared to WoWs current content it is a relatively fair to say that nothing much has changed with regards to animations.
It also completely justifies comparing Xsyon to other games that charge $15 per month.
Mind naming some MMOs that are not F2P, that are P2P that are less than 12$ a month? (Dont count cash shops either).
I am not entirely certain whether you are serious with this statement or just using it for the sake of argument. After all, a multi-month subscription of most MMO games is currently at or under 12$ a month. For example both LotRO and EVE you will get a 6-month subscription for little under 12$ a month. For other titles that are of a more direct comparison to Xsyon one could name Ryzom which costs under 12$ a month even for just 1-month subscription. With Ryzom you also will have a chance to test the game for free for 21 days and, therefore, there's no extra price from the game client. Also, comparing 12$ to 15$ is a tad silly as already per annum you will pay 36$ more which equals to 3 months of game time for those 12$ games.
Ok, but my point is still its not out of the realm that its crazy over priced, nor not normal. Also you have to use 6+ months of buying time which Im sure Xsyon will come out with someone like that also (considering unlike most MMOs that are based monthly they have 2 free months of game time when you buy it).
I can also name games that are more than 15$ and offer a lot less. Xsyon also said there will be a free trial after release.
Even using Ryzom makes me laugh, I wouldnt doubt if that goes F2P soon.
It also completely justifies comparing Xsyon to other games that charge $15 per month.
Mind naming some MMOs that are not F2P, that are P2P that are less than 12$ a month? (Dont count cash shops either).
I am not entirely certain whether you are serious with this statement or just using it for the sake of argument. After all, a multi-month subscription of most MMO games is currently at or under 12$ a month. For example both LotRO and EVE you will get a 6-month subscription for little under 12$ a month. For other titles that are of a more direct comparison to Xsyon one could name Ryzom which costs under 12$ a month even for just 1-month subscription. With Ryzom you also will have a chance to test the game for free for 21 days and, therefore, there's no extra price from the game client. Also, comparing 12$ to 15$ is a tad silly as already per annum you will pay 36$ more which equals to 3 months of game time for those 12$ games.
Ok, but my point is still its not out of the realm that its crazy over priced, nor not normal. Also you have to use 6+ months of buying time which Im sure Xsyon will come out with someone like that also (considering unlike most MMOs that are based monthly they have 2 free months of game time when you buy it).
I can also name games that are more than 15$ and offer a lot less. Xsyon also said there will be a free trial after release.
Even using Ryzom makes me laugh, I wouldnt doubt if that goes F2P soon.
I think that the comparison was moreso on the price versus quality of the game; if the cost of the game is the same as that of, say, WoW and EVE, to name a few, then its quality has to be compared to them as well. And belitteling Ryzom does not validate your argument. The game is multi-faceted and contains a number of similar features that Xsyon is about to use, which is why it is somewhat of a direct competition, and, as it stands, Ryzom is free to test unlike Xsyon.
I think that the comparison was moreso on the price versus quality of the game; if the cost of the game is the same as that of, say, WoW and EVE, to name a few, then its quality has to be compared to them as well. And belitteling Ryzom does not validate your argument. The game is multi-faceted and contains a number of similar features that Xsyon is about to use, which is why it is somewhat of a direct competition, and, as it stands, Ryzom is free to test unlike Xsyon.
How can you compare it on quality when its not even released yet? If you did that, EVE shouldnt be as much as it is either, or many other games.
Ryzom is bad AFTER release, really bad. It contains FEW of the features in Xsyon (or at least of what Xsyon lists).
I suspected that this was the only reason most people asking for videos. It had nothing to do with proof that it exsisted, they just wanted something to pick apart. Before they let anyone in, I don't remember anyone asking for anything specific just proof that it was real. Just goes to show you the sense of entitlement most of this community has developed over the years. I for one used common sense and knew not to expect much at all in the first few videos. I'm still impressed that they have a non static world where the player has the ability to physically change it.
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Originally posted by yorkforce Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat. No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
How can it be better than MO? It's terraforming is better than MO's (since MO lacks that feature), I'll give it that. But everything is either clearly worse or isn't turned on in Xsyon. Xsyon might very well turn out better, but we can't know that yet.
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
How can it be better than MO? It's terraforming is better than MO's (since MO lacks that feature), I'll give it that. But everything is either clearly worse or isn't turned on in Xsyon. Xsyon might very well turn out better, but we can't know that yet.
I would rather them turn off an unfinished feature than let it fuck the game up a la MO.
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
How can it be better than MO? It's terraforming is better than MO's (since MO lacks that feature), I'll give it that. But everything is either clearly worse or isn't turned on in Xsyon. Xsyon might very well turn out better, but we can't know that yet.
I would rather them turn off an unfinished feature than let it fuck the game up a la MO.
It's never going to get fixed until they turn it on, and we can't judge it until they do. Like I said, maybe Xsyon will be better in every way, it's possible. But, I just get so annoyed at blind bashing of one game while blindly praising another. MO used to get high praise just like Xsyon is getting, for all we know, Xsyon will end up in the same situation once they actually turn the game's features on and get more than a few dozen people on the server.
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
How can it be better than MO? It's terraforming is better than MO's (since MO lacks that feature), I'll give it that. But everything is either clearly worse or isn't turned on in Xsyon. Xsyon might very well turn out better, but we can't know that yet.
I would rather them turn off an unfinished feature than let it fuck the game up a la MO.
It's never going to get fixed until they turn it on, and we can't judge it until they do. Like I said, maybe Xsyon will be better in every way, it's possible. But, I just get so annoyed at blind bashing of one game while blindly praising another. MO used to get high praise just like Xsyon is getting, for all we know, Xsyon will end up in the same situation once they actually turn the game's features on and get more than a few dozen people on the server.
I do not blindly bash anything, video games or something less trivial, doesn't matter.
I've taken part in MO beta for several months now, and it's having a VERY rough time.
Yes, thing's cannot be fixed until they are turned on, but until the dev team is ready to address those problems, what is the purpose of leaving it on and letting it fuck things up? Again, MO practices the latter.
Have to admit I watched the 'combat' twice and it cracked me up more the 2nd go round. This is truly hilarious as far as the combat goes, don't know about the other features!
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
How can it be better than MO? It's terraforming is better than MO's (since MO lacks that feature), I'll give it that. But everything is either clearly worse or isn't turned on in Xsyon. Xsyon might very well turn out better, but we can't know that yet.
I would rather them turn off an unfinished feature than let it fuck the game up a la MO.
It's never going to get fixed until they turn it on, and we can't judge it until they do. Like I said, maybe Xsyon will be better in every way, it's possible. But, I just get so annoyed at blind bashing of one game while blindly praising another. MO used to get high praise just like Xsyon is getting, for all we know, Xsyon will end up in the same situation once they actually turn the game's features on and get more than a few dozen people on the server.
I do not blindly bash anything, video games or something less trivial, doesn't matter.
I've taken part in MO beta for several months now, and it's having a VERY rough time.
Yes, thing's cannot be fixed until they are turned on, but until the dev team is ready to address those problems, what is the purpose of leaving it on and letting it fuck things up? Again, MO practices the latter.
So if its turned on its working? so this is 100% complete combat? (not specifically directed at you btw Relandi420)
Everyone keeps saying, just wait till they turn on all the other features which are all 80% finished (80% really? all of them, nice round number that) I dont for one minute believe that all the other features are 80% complete, 80% means nothing, 80% of untested unseen features, for all anyone knows it may take 10 years to complete the other 20% but regardless im not buying it, no company would in thier right mind allow this video to be released, to say the players should make the videos because they can do a better job than we can it just abouts the worst thing any development team could say or do and this video says it all.
It looks absolutly awful, tedious, boring, repetative and pointless. Then they say PvE isnt turned on? you mean only 80% of the bears are finished, once thats 100% we can then release the wolves? Sorry but this game is so bare right now it could not be classified as beta material, very early alpha is more accurate.
I understand that indie companies should be given some leeway, and it would be awesome if this kind of game was possible but truth is, they have bitten off more than they can chew, there will be a couple of hundred die hard fans who will play religiously and then realise that unless there are a couple of thousand die hard fans this game is going to progress slower than a dying sun. Sorry but its the truth.
So if its turned on its working? so this is 100% complete combat? (not specifically directed at you btw Relandi420)
As stated earlier in this thread - which just proves to me you either only skimmed, or didn't even read the entirety of this - A feature needs to be turned on before it can be tested.
Combat is one of the few things, along with terraforming and some basic crafting that they are working on tweaking and balancing currently.
You cannot assume them to just flick it on and it work, right?
And since you didn't give this thread the benefit of reading it, I shall not give the rest of your post the benefit.
EDIT: Hell, the quote you quoted even stated a feature needs to be TURNED ON before it can be fixed. *sigh* Please do read first.
So if its turned on its working? so this is 100% complete combat? (not specifically directed at you btw Relandi420)
As stated earlier in this thread - which just proves to me you either only skimmed, or didn't even read the entirety of this - A feature needs to be turned on before it can be tested.
Combat is one of the few things, along with terraforming and some basic crafting that they are working on tweaking and balancing currently.
You cannot assume them to just flick it on and it work, right?
And since you didn't give this thread the benefit of reading it, I shall not give the rest of your post the benefit.
EDIT: Hell, the quote you quoted even stated a feature needs to be TURNED ON before it can be fixed. *sigh* Please do read first.
True Relandi...you do have to turn on a feature to test it. You just don't do it with ACTUAL players and release videos of it to the public. That is something a dev should do way before they release it to be played and "balanced" by actual players. There is such a thing as turning a feature on and testing it internally. This combat video makes the "system" is definitley not ready for the light of day.
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Exactly. If they want people to have lesser expectations, then lessen the fees. Based on the videos so far, this is looking like it should be free, or micro payments at a market place.
A smash success may be stretching it, but it is a successful title. High fan reviews, mediocre critic fanfare, but a gameplay style that you really can't find anywhere else. It definitely has a strong cult following. Obviously its not topping charts or anything though, so with that I would have to agree.
I am not entirely certain whether you are serious with this statement or just using it for the sake of argument. After all, a multi-month subscription of most MMO games is currently at or under 12$ a month. For example both LotRO and EVE you will get a 6-month subscription for little under 12$ a month. For other titles that are of a more direct comparison to Xsyon one could name Ryzom which costs under 12$ a month even for just 1-month subscription. With Ryzom you also will have a chance to test the game for free for 21 days and, therefore, there's no extra price from the game client. Also, comparing 12$ to 15$ is a tad silly as already per annum you will pay 36$ more which equals to 3 months of game time for those 12$ games.
I don't see how we could shit on the game with the release of one combat video.
I mean its one character spamming melee attack and another spamming block lol.
Where's the Archery? Where's the Magic? what about actual melee abilities or even different weapons?
I don't see how anyone could totally judge the games combat already.
Aren't we all jumping the gun here?
Would you like me to link you two characters in WoW back in 04 just auto attacking each other down? was it fair to judge them that early?
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This is the 2nd combat video I've seen. Both of them were frightfully terrible but this one at least had loud obnoxious sound effects. I can turn sound effects off, but quite seriously the combat in both videos was terrible.
Wheres the archery? Wheres the magic? Wheres the weapons, armor, and melee abilities?
Thats the question isn't it? I don't know where any of that is, because noone has shown me it. They also haven't shown me PvE content, or extensive terraforming aside from a tree falling down and a couple plots of road being placed.
How do I know the PvE content won't be flying high above my head, or teleporting? How do I know there will even be PvE content?
Your guess is as good as mine rockgod. Don't misunderstand me, I'm not saying this game will automatically be terrible, but I'm saying from what I've seen, this game isn't looking good. If you are in beta, show me what you see that makes the game good, thats what I want to see. If I wanted to see a barren world with 2 people whacking away at eachother I'd play MO.
I think that people from beta are the only ones able to inform us. We can only make assumptions based on what we see on these videos and, from what I've seen, all of the combat videos have been the same. Certainly, they've stated that there is a number of disabled features and a host of bug fixes that are easy to implent to currently malfunctioning ones. One can project these arguments to ones provided by previous sandbox smash hits, including Mortal Online and Darkfall, that both have had loads of content ready to be installed and simple fixes to existing problems. I am not saying that Xsyon will be the same, but taking everything they say at the face-value is equally ignorant.
Therefore, we are not jumping the gun here, we are solely being concerned would-be customers. If they are able to provide us with an entertaining game both PvE- and PvP-wise with the features they have listed on their web pages, atleast I am more than willing to give this game a try. As it stands, there are way more promises than actual content shown.
And, you asked for WoW auto attack fight from '04. I think this piece is from '03, from US closed beta, at around one minute mark you can see two undeads fighting one another and only at the end they use some form of a finisher. It is followed by some melee fighting combined with casts by a shaman. I would dare to say that those animations are pretty decent and compared to WoWs current content it is a relatively fair to say that nothing much has changed with regards to animations.
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Ok, but my point is still its not out of the realm that its crazy over priced, nor not normal. Also you have to use 6+ months of buying time which Im sure Xsyon will come out with someone like that also (considering unlike most MMOs that are based monthly they have 2 free months of game time when you buy it).
I can also name games that are more than 15$ and offer a lot less. Xsyon also said there will be a free trial after release.
Even using Ryzom makes me laugh, I wouldnt doubt if that goes F2P soon.
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I think that the comparison was moreso on the price versus quality of the game; if the cost of the game is the same as that of, say, WoW and EVE, to name a few, then its quality has to be compared to them as well. And belitteling Ryzom does not validate your argument. The game is multi-faceted and contains a number of similar features that Xsyon is about to use, which is why it is somewhat of a direct competition, and, as it stands, Ryzom is free to test unlike Xsyon.
How can you compare it on quality when its not even released yet? If you did that, EVE shouldnt be as much as it is either, or many other games.
Ryzom is bad AFTER release, really bad. It contains FEW of the features in Xsyon (or at least of what Xsyon lists).
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I suspected that this was the only reason most people asking for videos. It had nothing to do with proof that it exsisted, they just wanted something to pick apart. Before they let anyone in, I don't remember anyone asking for anything specific just proof that it was real. Just goes to show you the sense of entitlement most of this community has developed over the years. I for one used common sense and knew not to expect much at all in the first few videos. I'm still impressed that they have a non static world where the player has the ability to physically change it.
Well its not hard to pick appart, it has like 2 entire things to pick at and thats the entirety of combat.
No matter how you spin this game its going to be more like a second year student project rather than a game that could even come close to competeing with almost any other game out there. And charging full price for it? people just are not going to fork out $40 and $15 a month when they can spend that on other MMOs that are just far superior in everyway.
Common. This game is already much better than mortal online ever be, and people were forking much more to get into the closed alpha. It seems there are enough insane players to get those crap games to be funded.
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How can it be better than MO? It's terraforming is better than MO's (since MO lacks that feature), I'll give it that. But everything is either clearly worse or isn't turned on in Xsyon. Xsyon might very well turn out better, but we can't know that yet.
I would rather them turn off an unfinished feature than let it fuck the game up a la MO.
It's never going to get fixed until they turn it on, and we can't judge it until they do. Like I said, maybe Xsyon will be better in every way, it's possible. But, I just get so annoyed at blind bashing of one game while blindly praising another. MO used to get high praise just like Xsyon is getting, for all we know, Xsyon will end up in the same situation once they actually turn the game's features on and get more than a few dozen people on the server.
I do not blindly bash anything, video games or something less trivial, doesn't matter.
I've taken part in MO beta for several months now, and it's having a VERY rough time.
Yes, thing's cannot be fixed until they are turned on, but until the dev team is ready to address those problems, what is the purpose of leaving it on and letting it fuck things up? Again, MO practices the latter.
Have to admit I watched the 'combat' twice and it cracked me up more the 2nd go round. This is truly hilarious as far as the combat goes, don't know about the other features!
So if its turned on its working? so this is 100% complete combat? (not specifically directed at you btw Relandi420)
Everyone keeps saying, just wait till they turn on all the other features which are all 80% finished (80% really? all of them, nice round number that) I dont for one minute believe that all the other features are 80% complete, 80% means nothing, 80% of untested unseen features, for all anyone knows it may take 10 years to complete the other 20% but regardless im not buying it, no company would in thier right mind allow this video to be released, to say the players should make the videos because they can do a better job than we can it just abouts the worst thing any development team could say or do and this video says it all.
It looks absolutly awful, tedious, boring, repetative and pointless. Then they say PvE isnt turned on? you mean only 80% of the bears are finished, once thats 100% we can then release the wolves? Sorry but this game is so bare right now it could not be classified as beta material, very early alpha is more accurate.
I understand that indie companies should be given some leeway, and it would be awesome if this kind of game was possible but truth is, they have bitten off more than they can chew, there will be a couple of hundred die hard fans who will play religiously and then realise that unless there are a couple of thousand die hard fans this game is going to progress slower than a dying sun. Sorry but its the truth.
As stated earlier in this thread - which just proves to me you either only skimmed, or didn't even read the entirety of this - A feature needs to be turned on before it can be tested.
Combat is one of the few things, along with terraforming and some basic crafting that they are working on tweaking and balancing currently.
You cannot assume them to just flick it on and it work, right?
And since you didn't give this thread the benefit of reading it, I shall not give the rest of your post the benefit.
EDIT: Hell, the quote you quoted even stated a feature needs to be TURNED ON before it can be fixed. *sigh* Please do read first.
This is why you dont preorder before seeing a video. woooooow...lmao are they serious?
True Relandi...you do have to turn on a feature to test it. You just don't do it with ACTUAL players and release videos of it to the public. That is something a dev should do way before they release it to be played and "balanced" by actual players. There is such a thing as turning a feature on and testing it internally. This combat video makes the "system" is definitley not ready for the light of day.