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  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235

     

    I am not disputing that they have come a long long way but to say that 10.51 is 'tremendously' faster than 10.5 is hyperbole at best and plain wrong at worst.  (There is nothing in the changelog about performance enhancements btw). Sure It is a solid product but you don't do  It (or your credibility) any favours by making 'extravagant' claims (e.g. 'js is the only strong part of chrome' this is clearly not the case). They are what they are (great browsers). :)


  • GorillaGorilla Member UncommonPosts: 2,235

     Really, a web browser is just that a web browser yes some might be more stable and easier to use. However they all preform the same basic function and there is very little coding to do to increase loading speed. 

     

    True, but if you include rendering (as in load & render) that really is the essence of what a browser is, an app for rendering web pages. Rendering engines are where browsers set themselves apart.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    Originally posted by Joker2240

    A lot of you guys are on crack. Chrome is very much customizable and also VERY easy to use. Some nights I only use my mouse to browse the internet and I love having multiple tabs/pages open on my screen.  Chrome is the only web browser I use period and I am sure a lot more people would love it if they knew how to use it properly. I hate IE, Safari, and Firefox . 

     

    Also a side note I really hate when people say something loads faster on something else. There is a lot of other factors besides the web browser you are using.  Internet speed, distance of host, type of router your have, traffic and other things.  Really, a web browser is just that a web browser yes some might be more stable and easier to use. However they all preform the same basic function and there is very little coding to do to increase loading speed. 

     listen dude no offence here but i did use chrome a while yes its faster !so!!why did i move back to firefox then!

    im not the only one either!countless have soutched back.ho i miss this oh these site dont work on google etc

    in the end people gather people and nomather how much google hope (1 browser to rule them all)

    if there is one that can say this its explorer,but only because microsoft has to impose it .tell microsoft

    to  put a abutton that says erase browser from computer and you ll see real number in action

    accept it firefox is the browser of choice of a lot of reason .the main being they dont filter good site

    they only filter bad site !they dont filter site that are against their views.mozilla couldnt care less what we think

    they are technologist!the only thing they care is improving technology but accessable to the poorest in the world

    most that are in the free environement are big guns now

    ibm support it and lot of other.why?because its either that or close the door

    licence system are too invasive.if i had to use a licence for a product i might as well buy the actual item from the one that invented that dam h264!

    h264 will die surprisingly quick because of its licence

    firefox has already a work around and god knows they havent been at it as long as apple

    give those technomaniac at the free end a bit of time to polish html5 and you ll be surprised at the result.

    but my bet is to many are pulling on the html5 string! so it will breach very fast and an underdog techno will emerge before they can say oom

    check cd or dvd they were the norm ,now!why bother most buy online for now!if those silly htm5  guru dont stop their

    beta vs vhs war a third solution will emerge!always as been so!and it will probably be from the free industry side!

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    Originally posted by Gorilla



     

    I am not disputing that they have come a long long way but to say that 10.51 is 'tremendously' faster than 10.5 is hyperbole at best and plain wrong at worst.  (There is nothing in the changelog about performance enhancements btw). Sure It is a solid product but you don't do  It (or your credibility) any favours by making 'extravagant' claims (e.g. 'js is the only strong part of chrome' this is clearly not the case). They are what they are (great browsers). :)


    I ain't talking about official releases either, but about latest build. Among other things, proven to be over 30% faster in peacekeeper than 10.50.

    I've used pretty much all the browsers there is, chrome is specifically fast in Js. Otherwise it's not a very fast browser.

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    I love my chrome, but it doesn't really work well with flash or youtube... 

    I've encountered problems with every browser though. Chrome is just visually most appealing. Less unimportant stuff there is on the screen, the better.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    Originally posted by Joker2240



    A lot of you guys are on crack. Chrome is very much customizable and also VERY easy to use. Some nights I only use my mouse to browse the internet and I love having multiple tabs/pages open on my screen.  Chrome is the only web browser I use period and I am sure a lot more people would love it if they knew how to use it properly. I hate IE, Safari, and Firefox . 

     

    Also a side note I really hate when people say something loads faster on something else. There is a lot of other factors besides the web browser you are using.  Internet speed, distance of host, type of router your have, traffic and other things.  Really, a web browser is just that a web browser yes some might be more stable and easier to use. However they all preform the same basic function and there is very little coding to do to increase loading speed. 

    Chrome is very customizable? Gimme a break. Usage is easy, as in any browser.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    Originally posted by Gorilla



     

    I am not disputing that they have come a long long way but to say that 10.51 is 'tremendously' faster than 10.5 is hyperbole at best and plain wrong at worst.  (There is nothing in the changelog about performance enhancements btw). Sure It is a solid product but you don't do  It (or your credibility) any favours by making 'extravagant' claims (e.g. 'js is the only strong part of chrome' this is clearly not the case). They are what they are (great browsers). :)


    http://service.futuremark.com/peacekeeper/index.action

    try this!

    then check the top dog compare it to any you see

    the top dog is 14000 thats twice faster then chrome on peacekeeper 7000 some for chrome!

    true computer play a role also in these test .is there a way to neutrally test !probably not!

  • DeViLmAn0DeViLmAn0 Member UncommonPosts: 201

    thought id look into opera based off some random reviews ive read as well as some of what i saw here. Mainly to use as a backup browser. My main is firefox. Figured as good and fairly speedy/easy to use as opera sounded it might make for a great secondary browser that i can store some random tabs on so i dont always have to load up the horde of tabs i have up on firefox all the time. It takes firefox a bit to load up fully on account of the insane # of tabs i keep up.

     

    So figure, maybe i can use opera and split up the load a bit haha.

    Does anyone who uses opera know if it has any addons similiar to the adblock that firefox has available?

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  • maskedweaselmaskedweasel Member LegendaryPosts: 12,195

    Originally posted by dfan

    Originally posted by Joker2240



    A lot of you guys are on crack. Chrome is very much customizable and also VERY easy to use. Some nights I only use my mouse to browse the internet and I love having multiple tabs/pages open on my screen.  Chrome is the only web browser I use period and I am sure a lot more people would love it if they knew how to use it properly. I hate IE, Safari, and Firefox . 

     

    Also a side note I really hate when people say something loads faster on something else. There is a lot of other factors besides the web browser you are using.  Internet speed, distance of host, type of router your have, traffic and other things.  Really, a web browser is just that a web browser yes some might be more stable and easier to use. However they all preform the same basic function and there is very little coding to do to increase loading speed. 

    Chrome is very customizable? Gimme a break. Usage is easy, as in any browser.

    Yes, Chrome is very customizable. 



  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    for those that say opera is faster i got news for did you try it !dont relly on other non repeatable test!first !

    make sure to deactivate remote differential compression when testing!why?because it is unusable on the majority of site

    and testing opera with it can(and i say can give it an unfair advantage that cant be repeated in real world test

    second right now google beta version is the fastest by a fair margin

    second is opera

    but still even tho number say this i still use firefox as the majority do .

    true firefox as one bug when you check the test going on,(,peacekeeper) you see hickup every 3 to 5 second or so i tried test all freaking option avail

    and its in the the browser itself.since the only test i could find are all written in java it makes these browser test very biased

    but when you are in the real world most of the time like streaming video firefox is faster then opera and google

    and for the love of me i cannot understand why!we re not even on the html5 test yet since its too new

    the firefox solution is very nice tested it and its on par with other techno dont think we ll get compression change tho since compression techno is very watched they ll probably use a streaming technology to compress the data

    (differential compression is one way but its so lazy techno that mozilla will probably create their own!

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    I used Firefox until 9 months ago but it's performance have gone down a lot the last 2 years. I went back to opera, but I use Chrome in the background when I play EQ2, mostly because it uses so little memory and I don't want to use any more than I must when I am playing..

    Yes, Chrome is really fast but it misses some of the features that I want in a browser. Firefox isn't what it used to be and explorer have always sucked, that leaves Opera that have the features I want at good speed, no bugs and not too much memory use.

  • dfandfan Member Posts: 362

    Originally posted by Loke666

    I used Firefox until 9 months ago but it's performance have gone down a lot the last 2 years. I went back to opera, but I use Chrome in the background when I play EQ2, mostly because it uses so little memory and I don't want to use any more than I must when I am playing..

    Yes, Chrome is really fast but it misses some of the features that I want in a browser. Firefox isn't what it used to be and explorer have always sucked, that leaves Opera that have the features I want at good speed, no bugs and not too much memory use.

    Actually ff performance hasn't gone down, it just hasn't been able to follow the pace of its competitors.

  • therock3000therock3000 Member UncommonPosts: 48

    i love using Firefox. I love to compare it with IE. Now we are comparing it with the new Chrome. I have seen Chrome interface. To me, Chrome seems to be a far complex browser. The way it is design seems far more advance than Firefox. Maybe some people say Chrome is better than Firefox or some why not. In the upcoming years, Chrome will be superior. For now, I'll be sticking with Firefox.

  • ZyonneZyonne Member Posts: 259

    I use all three browsers.

    Opera is my favorite, as it's the most complete browser. I can do a fresh install of it on a new computer and have all features I want without fiddling with plugins. It's very fast when browsing, but it's a memory hog and takes a while to open. I might be a bit biased when it comes to Opera since I've used that 99% of the time the last 11 years, though.

    Chrome is the browser I use as default for opening web pages. It takes less than a second to open if I click on a link in a messenger window or similar. It's great for looking at a page, and then closing again when I'm done with it, but a bit too simplistic for general browsing. I miss a lot of what is in Opera while using it, especially mouse gestures and notes.

    Firefox is my IE replacement. I use that whenever a webpage can't be viewed in Chrome or Opera. IE + Firefox support seems to be a minimum for most websites, since Firefox is the second most used browser.

    Anyway, Chrome is usually the browser I install and use if I'm going to be using a computer for just an hour or two. It's tiny, fast, and has most of what I need. I keep a memory stick with it on my keychain, since it's usually faster to install and start using Chrome than it is to open IE. :p

    Oh, and if I create webpages, I have to check that they look okay in IE. I've often had to rewrite the code for webpages that look great in Opera and Firefox because IE doesn't follow W3C standards. :(

  • astrob0yastrob0y Member Posts: 702

    "Opera is my favorite, as it's the most complete browser. I can do a fresh install of it on a new computer and have all features I want without fiddling with plugins" 

     

    And the best part is that you can make a opera profile and get the same setting on every opera browser when you log in. Its freaking awsome to have your bookmarks and browser settings in a cloud when you must use diffrent comptures :) 

     

    edit: opera is the browser to use. I cant say how easy my browsing has become since I switch to it. And all the talk about which browser is fastest is quite silly. Opera, Chrome and Firefox are all doing great. Dunno about the bastard ie :p 

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  • ZyonneZyonne Member Posts: 259

    Originally posted by astrob0y

    edit: opera is the browser to use. I cant say how easy my browsing has become since I switch to it. And all the talk about which browser is fastest is quite silly. Opera, Chrome and Firefox are all doing great. Dunno about the bastard ie :p 

    I agree that Opera is the best browser for those that spend more than a few minutes a day browsing. The one downside (aside from lack of error tolerance which some might consider a good thing) is that it uses a lot of memory if you keep it open at all times. With default settings it caches a lot in memory, which is part of the reason why it's so fast, but it can mean that your computer will slow down if you are on an older one where every MB of free RAM is precious. At the moment Opera is taking up 450MB of RAM for me, which is acceptable since I visit the same webpages often and don't want to load the same ads over again, but on an older computer I'd have to limit the caching to memory or it would kill multi-tasking.

  • astrob0yastrob0y Member Posts: 702

    Originally posted by Zyonne

    Originally posted by astrob0y

    edit: opera is the browser to use. I cant say how easy my browsing has become since I switch to it. And all the talk about which browser is fastest is quite silly. Opera, Chrome and Firefox are all doing great. Dunno about the bastard ie :p 

    I agree that Opera is the best browser for those that spend more than a few minutes a day browsing. The one downside (aside from lack of error tolerance which some might consider a good thing) is that it uses a lot of memory if you keep it open at all times. With default settings it caches a lot in memory, which is part of the reason why it's so fast, but it can mean that your computer will slow down if you are on an older one where every MB of free RAM is precious. At the moment Opera is taking up 450MB of RAM for me, which is acceptable since I visit the same webpages often and don't want to load the same ads over again, but on an older computer I'd have to limit the caching to memory or it would kill multi-tasking.

    It takes alot of memory and that is something for the opera team to fix. :)

    And if you are getting tired of all the ads I must recommend a blog that will guide you how to use operas adblock in a easy way

    http://my.opera.com/Tamil/blog/ad-block

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  • AldersAlders Member RarePosts: 2,207

    I use Firefox mainly for Noscript, so i don't really care which is fastest. A lot of gaming sites and forums over tha past few years have been compromised with keyloggers that steal your account info. I'm not too fimiliar with the other browsers but would have no issue switching if they had a Noscript alternative, as they seem to have Ad-block also.

  • astrob0yastrob0y Member Posts: 702

    For you guys that are used to firefox layout I must tips you about http://www.palemoon.org/  a browswer built on firefox but not as "buggy"

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  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    mozilla released their latest nightly today !

    A  BIG WOW TO THEM

    on futurmark (peacekeeper) i went form a paltry 3500 in their last nightly build and today i was just shy of 4200

    so i dont know what they touched but it was exactly where the issue is (i think their new js thingy might have found the issue)

    on that futurmark browser test ,the floating ball test still hickup like a bitch every 3 or 4 second but over all the test i saw were on par with google(remote differential compression ,off)just in case some are wondering(opera anybody)

    the rest i think its a trick google use at least it seemed that way on futurmark test

    chrome time the browser response with the test in some way ,i dont know how but when you see peacekeeper go it is obvious!

    anyway good work mozilla keep up the good work!

     

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    found these test!

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/firefox-chrome-opera,2558-7.html

    http://www.craftymind.com/guimark2/#comment-22123

    in most test it shows basicly what we all know

    AS IT STAND JAVA AND FLASH ARE SLOW! VERY SLOW IN FACT.

    old code slowing down java probably ,java as been around a while and so has been firefox its often easy to forget

    these older code since they are often very deep down.one thing is sure

    both on those were too slow for todays web.

     

     

  • DerWotanDerWotan Member Posts: 1,012

    I'd never ever trust any google software on my pc, smartphone or whatever. Using firefox and nothing will ever come close to it. So many useful addons such as Firebug, Noscript, Adblock or Tabmix and Corel IE.

    Safe, fast AND greed free browser - open source > all.

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  • choujiofkonochoujiofkono Member Posts: 852

    Originally posted by DerWotan

    I'd never ever trust any google software on my pc, smartphone or whatever. Using firefox and nothing will ever come close to it. So many useful addons such as Firebug, Noscript, Adblock or Tabmix and Corel IE.

    Safe, fast AND greed free browser - open source > all.

          I agree. There is no comparison.  FF wins hands down.

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  • cukimungacukimunga Member UncommonPosts: 2,258

    FF is my browser, I've been using it for years so I know it like the back of my hand.  I tried Opera, Safari, Chrome and just didn't like them as much as FF.

  • drbaltazardrbaltazar Member UncommonPosts: 7,856

    Originally posted by DerWotan

    I'd never ever trust any google software on my pc, smartphone or whatever. Using firefox and nothing will ever come close to it. So many useful addons such as Firebug, Noscript, Adblock or Tabmix and Corel IE.

    Safe, fast AND greed free browser - open source > all.

    i wasnt sure till i used the various test in my previous post .true in flash and java it is slightly slower then google but on average its on par with other browser. bitmap html5 test tho wow its 3 and a half time faster then google.

    (latest nightly build with directwrite and the other thing set to 6 .

    mozilla firefox is the best browser ,opera is also a strong contender but google and explorer are too invasive with their licenced html5 solution and microsoft licenced silverlight!.dont get me wrong with the latest firefox nightly and the 2 hardeware accaleration. if you use silverlight its 5 time faster then htm5 about same quality .so yes it is the best stream techno on the planet bare none, nothing is faster! not h264 !etc !but the fact it take a licence, kills it !same for apple and google licence to post video

    come on when their promise end not to charge us they ll charge us per video, for us to stream on youtube html5 or on window silverlight(or window html5),apple html5(h264)

    come on everybody in there know their aim is to make all tube pay to post.

    hence the reason mozilla is the best techno to support any way we can!

    firefox html5 is still the second fastest stream behind silverlight and the closest is flash way behind firefox html5.

    firefox team is working very hard at polishing java (witch is a big issue and find the other timing issue

    but the work they done on build 5 is exactly where they need to polish .

    true the older code need lot of cleaning some older java code need to be removed for the newer version

    just cleaning up firefox older code and all is titanesk work.they ve been pilling and pilling for almost a decade or more correcting only if it was needed so soon they will need to make sure all code firefox are the latest(yes big job)

    but i got to say for an open source browser its doing fairly good.yes java mordernised faster then the browser same with flash but i bet firefox coder will go in these older issue and remove the accumulated cobweb and add the newer code needed.

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