Before you say Darkfall. What is the best world pvp game that has more content than just pvp?
Define "best". Best in what ways? Various games have various strengths and weaknesses, which matter more or less to different people. You might as well ask "what is the best pizza".
Best world PvP game is Darkfall. Period. There are alot of things to do in DF, if you aren't afraid of world PvP. And nothing to do if you are. PvE in DFO is 10 times more fun than in WoW. Problem is while in WoW you can do PvE pretty safely, in DFO it in any moment can end up with PvP. But why should you care if world PvP is what you're looking for? Or you're looking for another carebear game where you can at any given moment get hidden from world PvP? Then yeah, try World of Warcraft...
You're wrong. On a WoW PvP server, you are flagged for PvP any time you leave a city or a noob zone. You can kill or be killed on 90% of WoW's map.
And Darkfall is getting safe zones for noobs last I heard.
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I've tried WoW world PVP.. it hasn't been the same in a long time, and as soon as they let people fly in azeroth, it will be deader than dead.
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Originally posted by Kshahdoo
Best world PvP game is Darkfall. Period. There are alot of things to do in DF, if you aren't afraid of world PvP. And nothing to do if you are. PvE in DFO is 10 times more fun than in WoW. Problem is while in WoW you can do PvE pretty safely, in DFO it in any moment can end up with PvP. But why should you care if world PvP is what you're looking for? Or you're looking for another carebear game where you can at any given moment get hidden from world PvP? Then yeah, try World of Warcraft...
PVE in DF? odd, I didn't see any
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To be honest, Im pretty sure youre looking for Age of Conan. Again, yadda yadda yadda, the game is VASTLY improved since launch. Thats the buzz, and I can tell you that its true. So if youve played it already, banish your previous notions and give it a shot.
The PVP is dynamic and fun, and most importantly: It happens everywhere
Jump on Cimmeria and come enjoy some good world PVP
Best world PvP game is Darkfall. Period. There are alot of things to do in DF, if you aren't afraid of world PvP. And nothing to do if you are. PvE in DFO is 10 times more fun than in WoW. Problem is while in WoW you can do PvE pretty safely, in DFO it in any moment can end up with PvP. But why should you care if world PvP is what you're looking for? Or you're looking for another carebear game where you can at any given moment get hidden from world PvP? Then yeah, try World of Warcraft...
You're wrong. On a WoW PvP server, you are flagged for PvP any time you leave a city or a noob zone. You can kill or be killed on 90% of WoW's map.
And Darkfall is getting safe zones for noobs last I heard.
Only 90%? Pft.
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Originally posted by apalalas
To be honest, Im pretty sure youre looking for Age of Conan. Again, yadda yadda yadda, the game is VASTLY improved since launch. Thats the buzz, and I can tell you that its true. So if youve played it already, banish your previous notions and give it a shot.
The PVP is dynamic and fun, and most importantly: It happens everywhere
Jump on Cimmeria and come enjoy some good world PVP
I tried that, lagged to hell.
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To be honest, Im pretty sure youre looking for Age of Conan. Again, yadda yadda yadda, the game is VASTLY improved since launch. Thats the buzz, and I can tell you that its true. So if youve played it already, banish your previous notions and give it a shot.
The PVP is dynamic and fun, and most importantly: It happens everywhere
Jump on Cimmeria and come enjoy some good world PVP
I tried that, lagged to hell.
It's not the games fault. I played it perfectly smooth. Turn down the graphics and mess with it a bit. Other than AoC, I wouldn't know what to tell you.
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You seem to be shooting down every suggestion here. Perhaps try a different genre, maybe an fps would cater to your desires more.
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Originally posted by arenasb
You seem to be shooting down every suggestion here. Perhaps try a different genre, maybe an fps would cater to your desires more.
Not so much shooting them down as letting you know I've already tried/passed on whatever game it is. I didn't think there was anything, was just making sure there wasn't some hidden gem I was missing.
And, I'm not sure why people think when someone says "LAG" they mean, graphics. I can run any game on the market at max settings. The Lag I am talking about, is connection lag.. lag that I can't do anything about. I wish I could, but I just can't. Besides AoC is just about as unbalanced as the rest... casters are still OP and combos still don't work like they should in PVP.
I'm just gonna play a PVE game and not worry about it.
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To be honest, Im pretty sure youre looking for Age of Conan. Again, yadda yadda yadda, the game is VASTLY improved since launch. Thats the buzz, and I can tell you that its true. So if youve played it already, banish your previous notions and give it a shot.
The PVP is dynamic and fun, and most importantly: It happens everywhere
Jump on Cimmeria and come enjoy some good world PVP
90% of PVP happens in front of the Kesh entrance, but I know they added the whole shrines thing, so there is a sorta Battlegrounds thing going on. Beyond that you cant attack anyone in the racial cities, or near guards which are prolific. And of course the world is heavily instanced, not open. Its also more appropriately titled Age of Magic. Im not trying to be down on it, but I found PVP boring and pointless.
Now Darkffall does have towers in the few NPC cities, and a ban on attacking noobs for their first 24 hours. Beyond that you can attack anyone anywhere for any reason. AND WHEN YOU KILL THEM, TAKE THEIR STUFF. But PVP is seriously imbalanced.
I'm sure I'll generate a lot of hate here, but WoW has the most potential of any MMORPG out there for world PvP in my opinion. The developers don't funnel their players into it for several reasons, but I believe it would be quite popular if they were to at some point.
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Originally posted by uquipu Originally posted by Kshahdoo Best world PvP game is Darkfall. Period. There are alot of things to do in DF, if you aren't afraid of world PvP. And nothing to do if you are. PvE in DFO is 10 times more fun than in WoW. Problem is while in WoW you can do PvE pretty safely, in DFO it in any moment can end up with PvP. But why should you care if world PvP is what you're looking for? Or you're looking for another carebear game where you can at any given moment get hidden from world PvP? Then yeah, try World of Warcraft...
You're wrong. On a WoW PvP server, you are flagged for PvP any time you leave a city or a noob zone. You can kill or be killed on 90% of WoW's map. And Darkfall is getting safe zones for noobs last I heard.
Lol, you mean you're flagged when you're flying on your mount and nobody is caring of you? Or when you're staying in the city and waiting for another group for another instance run? Yeah, the greatest world pvp ever...
Originally posted by raystantz Originally posted by Kshahdoo Best world PvP game is Darkfall. Period. There are alot of things to do in DF, if you aren't afraid of world PvP. And nothing to do if you are. PvE in DFO is 10 times more fun than in WoW. Problem is while in WoW you can do PvE pretty safely, in DFO it in any moment can end up with PvP. But why should you care if world PvP is what you're looking for? Or you're looking for another carebear game where you can at any given moment get hidden from world PvP? Then yeah, try World of Warcraft...
PVE in DF? odd, I didn't see any
Not odd at all, because you were playing DF for how long? Did you kill any mob stronger than goblin? I'm afraid you didn't...
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Originally posted by Kshahdoo
Originally posted by raystantz
Originally posted by Kshahdoo
Best world PvP game is Darkfall. Period. There are alot of things to do in DF, if you aren't afraid of world PvP. And nothing to do if you are. PvE in DFO is 10 times more fun than in WoW. Problem is while in WoW you can do PvE pretty safely, in DFO it in any moment can end up with PvP. But why should you care if world PvP is what you're looking for? Or you're looking for another carebear game where you can at any given moment get hidden from world PvP? Then yeah, try World of Warcraft...
PVE in DF? odd, I didn't see any
Not odd at all, because you were playing DF for how long? Did you kill any mob stronger than goblin? I'm afraid you didn't...
Because killing goblins isn't the same as killing any other random computer controlled NPC out in the wold? Sorry killing mobs over and over without some sort of interface to cover it up isn't fun.
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Im a huge fan of world PvP and im going to be honest with you, Anarchy Online was THE game for it until Funcom ruined the game completely. My advice is to try either Rift or AoC, in EvE you will probably get zerged and in Allods you will be outgeared by cashshop fanbois. I miss Anarchy Online back in 04/06, sandbox, drama, duels, ganks, all the wonderfull things we pvpers miss.
I don't think there is a populated game with what you are looking for. All of the good ones were from years past.
Darkfall is nice pvp but you don't really get anything fun out of pve and you have to be willing to macro / afk swim to compete. That and the population is shrinking at an escalating rate imo.
This is a funny thread because I think that I have enjoyed Darkfall's PVE more than any other MMORPG that I have ever payed.
Second would be Vanguard.
; )
The thing is that I have been playing for 2+ years and have only seen 70% of the map. They add new PVE content before I have time to see everything that is there. I have only done a fraction of the quests . ... like 1/3rd maybe. I know I do not play all day every day and have a life but this much PVE for playing over 2 years is unheard of. I would have done everything in a themepark game by now.
Have you tried any of the daily quest dungeons?
Epic bosses?
GM-controlled events?
Player events?
I honestly do not understand how so many people say that Darkfall doesn't have content and that its just a big Quake map. They have many areas that need to be spiced up and could use more purpose but when you have been playing as long as I have you see how every place has a purpose and people make use of it at some point in time. Anywhere in the world has the potential to become an epic battleground.
There are so many mobs that I haven't even seen them all. I have only see like half of the dungeons. To see them all I would have to have no life.
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I don't think there is a populated game with what you are looking for. All of the good ones were from years past.
Darkfall is nice pvp but you don't really get anything fun out of pve and you have to be willing to macro / afk swim to compete. That and the population is shrinking at an escalating rate imo.
Thats an echo from over a year ago and completely wrong now. Stats are in meditation and there will be stat increasing food soon. Did you know that they just reduced the grind, yet again? You do not need to macro or swim against a wall. 2-4 hour sessions a couple times a week is plenty enough to develop a top toon in a few months with the way it is now. Of course if this is a new player they will have to learn the game so you can add a few more months to do that lol
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Define "best". Best in what ways? Various games have various strengths and weaknesses, which matter more or less to different people. You might as well ask "what is the best pizza".
Give me liberty or give me lasers
You're wrong. On a WoW PvP server, you are flagged for PvP any time you leave a city or a noob zone. You can kill or be killed on 90% of WoW's map.
And Darkfall is getting safe zones for noobs last I heard.
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I've tried WoW world PVP.. it hasn't been the same in a long time, and as soon as they let people fly in azeroth, it will be deader than dead.
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PVE in DF? odd, I didn't see any
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To be honest, Im pretty sure youre looking for Age of Conan. Again, yadda yadda yadda, the game is VASTLY improved since launch. Thats the buzz, and I can tell you that its true. So if youve played it already, banish your previous notions and give it a shot.
The PVP is dynamic and fun, and most importantly: It happens everywhere
Jump on Cimmeria and come enjoy some good world PVP
Only 90%? Pft.
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I tried that, lagged to hell.
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It's not the games fault. I played it perfectly smooth. Turn down the graphics and mess with it a bit. Other than AoC, I wouldn't know what to tell you.
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I would say DAoC, then WAR, then EVE.
Fantasy based open world pvp game which isnt Darkfall..... WAR.
You seem to be shooting down every suggestion here. Perhaps try a different genre, maybe an fps would cater to your desires more.
Not so much shooting them down as letting you know I've already tried/passed on whatever game it is. I didn't think there was anything, was just making sure there wasn't some hidden gem I was missing.
And, I'm not sure why people think when someone says "LAG" they mean, graphics. I can run any game on the market at max settings. The Lag I am talking about, is connection lag.. lag that I can't do anything about. I wish I could, but I just can't. Besides AoC is just about as unbalanced as the rest... casters are still OP and combos still don't work like they should in PVP.
I'm just gonna play a PVE game and not worry about it.
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90% of PVP happens in front of the Kesh entrance, but I know they added the whole shrines thing, so there is a sorta Battlegrounds thing going on. Beyond that you cant attack anyone in the racial cities, or near guards which are prolific. And of course the world is heavily instanced, not open. Its also more appropriately titled Age of Magic. Im not trying to be down on it, but I found PVP boring and pointless.
Now Darkffall does have towers in the few NPC cities, and a ban on attacking noobs for their first 24 hours. Beyond that you can attack anyone anywhere for any reason. AND WHEN YOU KILL THEM, TAKE THEIR STUFF. But PVP is seriously imbalanced.
I would say original SWG. I base this on the fact that I don't like PvP and even I participated in it in SWG and had a good time.
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I'm sure I'll generate a lot of hate here, but WoW has the most potential of any MMORPG out there for world PvP in my opinion. The developers don't funnel their players into it for several reasons, but I believe it would be quite popular if they were to at some point.
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Lineage 2 by far has the best open world PvP
You're wrong. On a WoW PvP server, you are flagged for PvP any time you leave a city or a noob zone. You can kill or be killed on 90% of WoW's map.
And Darkfall is getting safe zones for noobs last I heard.
Lol, you mean you're flagged when you're flying on your mount and nobody is caring of you? Or when you're staying in the city and waiting for another group for another instance run? Yeah, the greatest world pvp ever...
Not odd at all, because you were playing DF for how long? Did you kill any mob stronger than goblin? I'm afraid you didn't...
Because killing goblins isn't the same as killing any other random computer controlled NPC out in the wold? Sorry killing mobs over and over without some sort of interface to cover it up isn't fun.
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Not sure if it will qualify but IMO: League of Legends (or DoTA)
Im a huge fan of world PvP and im going to be honest with you, Anarchy Online was THE game for it until Funcom ruined the game completely. My advice is to try either Rift or AoC, in EvE you will probably get zerged and in Allods you will be outgeared by cashshop fanbois. I miss Anarchy Online back in 04/06, sandbox, drama, duels, ganks, all the wonderfull things we pvpers miss.
I don't think there is a populated game with what you are looking for. All of the good ones were from years past.
Darkfall is nice pvp but you don't really get anything fun out of pve and you have to be willing to macro / afk swim to compete. That and the population is shrinking at an escalating rate imo.
This is a funny thread because I think that I have enjoyed Darkfall's PVE more than any other MMORPG that I have ever payed.
Second would be Vanguard.
; )
The thing is that I have been playing for 2+ years and have only seen 70% of the map. They add new PVE content before I have time to see everything that is there. I have only done a fraction of the quests . ... like 1/3rd maybe. I know I do not play all day every day and have a life but this much PVE for playing over 2 years is unheard of. I would have done everything in a themepark game by now.
Have you tried any of the daily quest dungeons?
Epic bosses?
GM-controlled events?
Player events?
I honestly do not understand how so many people say that Darkfall doesn't have content and that its just a big Quake map. They have many areas that need to be spiced up and could use more purpose but when you have been playing as long as I have you see how every place has a purpose and people make use of it at some point in time. Anywhere in the world has the potential to become an epic battleground.
There are so many mobs that I haven't even seen them all. I have only see like half of the dungeons. To see them all I would have to have no life.
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Thats an echo from over a year ago and completely wrong now. Stats are in meditation and there will be stat increasing food soon. Did you know that they just reduced the grind, yet again? You do not need to macro or swim against a wall. 2-4 hour sessions a couple times a week is plenty enough to develop a top toon in a few months with the way it is now. Of course if this is a new player they will have to learn the game so you can add a few more months to do that lol
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Darkfall and EVE, everything else is lol worthy.
Given your op post that leaves EVE.
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