Age of Conan Review 8/10

Equilibrium_JW

Be gentle, it's her first review.

http://www.angryguildleader.com/age-conan-review/

finaticd

Deleted to add same point to another post.

nihce

Lol since when do you math review? Is sound as important as for example gameplay?

Aceundor

Originally posted by nihce

Lol since when do you math review? Is sound as important as for example gameplay?

 And full of holes as usual. You just cant trust some people.

Warhammer online score by MMORPG is 7.5

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm/game/239/Warhammer-Online-Age-of-Reckoning.html

 

Back on topic

Nice and intelligent review of AoC. It will be getting better reviews now with the expansion -  for sure.

Looking forward to seeing sales figures. They can reach 1.5 mill former players with just one e-mail. Guess a lot of those will try it out.

 

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by finaticd

One would think an AoC fan would rate the game 10/10 just for hype reasons.  However, the math was off anyway so here:

After averaging the graphics I got 6.5, then 6 for sound, I'm going to throw out the 9 of 10 for Fun because that is where this AoC fan is trying to hype the game "Leveling is fun. PvP is fun. The raiding is a blast." since all those things are less fleshed out in AoC than other titles WoW for instance would get 30/10 and that would not make sense.  Community 6 of 10,  Roleplaying 9/10 "While I’m not a role player" and then she goes on to mention out of game stuff when there is very little RP in game. Lag 7/10. Content 7/10 but she rated "skill in PvP 10/10 and every player would say skill is way down after 1.05 so I am not sure if this reviewer plays AoC.

 

So her scores not mine, but I'm not convinced the reviewer played much Age of Conan do to logic reasons.

(6.5, 6, 6,9,7,7)/6 = 6.91 out of 10  And I definatly agree with that review score, see my signature.

AGL is pretty silly he is just trying to hype his own image by playing this game that not many play http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?t=215776.

It's clearly evident by your post that you know nothing about game reviews, and probably should do some research on how they are weighted. But since you're on a roll, care to give out math on how we weight reviews, since it's not public?

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by nihce

Lol since when do you math review? Is sound as important as for example gameplay?

You are correct. Each item does not hold the same weight on a score.

finaticd

Deleted because later post shows point better.

Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

Sureth

Get back on topic please.

ColdSun

I thought it was a good review.  I might even try AoC again.

Edited to stay on topic!

Equilibrium_JW

Anyway, our point has just been proven. People's posts are being erased here. We don't do that. Though I do appreciate their attempt to keep it on topic. Thanks for reading, regardless.

Jackdog

Originally posted by chaosngn

it's her first review.

that is pretty obvious.

I reviewed the review and give it a gentle 4 out of 10.

ColdSun

Oh no, I erased that myself after I saw the post from the admin.  I just didn't want a warning.

I don't question your idealism for non-biased reviews.  My hope is that you can remain untouched by the evils of advertising and money that will surely happen if you do well.  Good luck to you though, the site looks great and I will be visiting it.

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by Jackdog

Originally posted by chaosngn

it's her first review.

that is pretty obvious.

I reviewed the review and give it a gentle 4 out of 10.

Lol.. Now that's funny

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by ColdSun

Oh no, I erased that myself after I saw the post from the admin.  I just didn't want a warning.

I don't question your idealism for non-biased reviews.  My hope is that you can remain untouched by the evils of advertising and money that will surely happen if you do well.  Good luck to you though, the site looks great and I will be visiting it.

Yes, but you didn't erase mine and the other guys

ColdSun

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

eyeswideopen

Originally posted by ColdSun

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

What he fails to mention though, is Age of Conan is a "themepark" mmo as well. So how do you bash "themepark" mmos while praising a "themepark" mmo?

ColdSun

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by ColdSun

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

What he fails to mention though, is Age of Conan is a "themepark" mmo as well. So how do you bash "themepark" mmos while praising a "themepark" mmo?

 That is true, although I'm not sure what it has to do with my post.  I'm not defending either game as there is no clear innovation in AoC, just another game to hold a player over until something truly better comes out.  I think a lot of people feel that way.  As you know, a lot of people quit WoW and then go back, quit, go back.  Its just a cycle.  There isn't really that much out there that offers a superior experience.  There are some die hards that play some of the other games (LOTRO, EQ2, Vanguard), but even they want something new.

Computers are about innovation.  Unfortunately, the whole game industry (and the movie industry for that matter) has stopped innovating and instead have concentrated purely on technology, thinking all of us are stupid enough to buy the same thing over and over because it has a prettier face on it.  The movie industry can't even promote original ideas anymore, instead they make sequels and remakes.  Out of the millions of good fiction, scifi, fantasy, and horror books we are stuck with Saw 15 and Transformers 6. 

Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

catlana

Originally posted by Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

 I saw nothing in the OP review about MMORPG. The OP review seems pretty logical and thought out. What was the issue you had with the review?

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

This is something we both actually agree on. Both of our posts (and a few others) were deleted. Keeping folks on topic is one thing, but censorship is another.

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by ColdSun

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by ColdSun

Originally posted by Simsu

Originally posted by chaosngn

We also don't slant our reviews and base them all on one theme park mmorpg that has 8 million subs .... on the game's own merit, not what it did or didn't bring that WoW gives people on a drip.

You go to a lot of effort to talk about how unbiased you are but then say things like the above which are pretty clearly derogatory comments about "themepark" MMOs and WoW giving people things on a drip. You see the irony right? In an effort to defend yourself you state two clear biases that are commonly given by a particular group of people.

P.S. It's hilarious that you didn't get WoW's sub numbers correct (11.5 million) when they were just published.

 After five million does it even matter?  I mean, clearly there are no serious competitors to WoW.  It is a very nice game but he is right (even though a little blunt) that it is a themepark MMO that gives things to people on a drip.  If we don't start speaking up now about what we want in a future MMO then we will be force-fed the same game over and over like we have been.  Clearly most of us feel MMOs need to continue to innovate.  Take the features that make a solid game but continue to evolve.  I don't know about you, maybe you are happy playing WoW still, but I'm pretty bored with it after all these years.

Here ends my topic hijack.

What he fails to mention though, is Age of Conan is a "themepark" mmo as well. So how do you bash "themepark" mmos while praising a "themepark" mmo?

 That is true, although I'm not sure what it has to do with my post.  I'm not defending either game as there is no clear innovation in AoC, just another game to hold a player over until something truly better comes out.  I think a lot of people feel that way.  As you know, a lot of people quit WoW and then go back, quit, go back.  Its just a cycle.  There isn't really that much out there that offers a superior experience.  There are some die hards that play some of the other games (LOTRO, EQ2, Vanguard), but even they want something new.

Computers are about innovation.  Unfortunately, the whole game industry (and the movie industry for that matter) has stopped innovating and instead have concentrated purely on technology, thinking all of us are stupid enough to buy the same thing over and over because it has a prettier face on it.  The movie industry can't even promote original ideas anymore, instead they make sequels and remakes.  Out of the millions of good fiction, scifi, fantasy, and horror books we are stuck with Saw 15 and Transformers 6. 

What?!?! You don't think it was an amazing idea to redo Bewitched and A-Team? Both should have won Oscars.

eyeswideopen

Originally posted by catlana

Originally posted by Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

 I saw nothing in the OP review about MMORPG. The OP review seems pretty logical and thought out. What was the issue you had with the review?

And if they hadn't erased the posts containing that info, you'd know.

Equilibrium_JW

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by catlana

Originally posted by Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

 I saw nothing in the OP review about MMORPG. The OP review seems pretty logical and thought out. What was the issue you had with the review?

And if they hadn't erased the posts containing that info, you'd know.

Actually, you should stop trolling and let it die, because it only makes you look like an arse with your conspiracy theories. I never once posted in this thread anything negative at all in regards to mmorpg.com, sir fanboi. So they wouldn't know, would they? But you sure want to put fuel on the fire with what is basically a bold faced lie.

eyeswideopen

Originally posted by chaosngn

Originally posted by eyeswideopen

Originally posted by catlana

Originally posted by Teala

My post was erased and I really have no clue why - and yes I am questioning the MOD that erased it because I said nothing offensive or derogatory - I just stated that it was obvious the reviewer of the game was slandering MMORPG.com.   Oh and be my guest and erase this one as well and I'll gladly contact John and see if we can't get your arse kicked from modding these forums so poorly.

 I saw nothing in the OP review about MMORPG. The OP review seems pretty logical and thought out. What was the issue you had with the review?

And if they hadn't erased the posts containing that info, you'd know.

Actually, you should stop trolling and let it die, because it only makes you look like an arse with your conspiracy theories. I never once posted in this thread anything negative at all in regards to mmorpg.com, sir fanboi. So they wouldn't know, would they? But you sure want to put fuel on the fire with what is basically a bold faced lie.

No, you didn't post anything negative in this thread. You just got called out for what you've posted on other sites regarding this one. And I never said you said it in this thread, I said if he wanted to know the details of what you did do, it was in the posts that were deleted.

But since you want to bring it up Sylassa, I'll put the thread back here so he can see:

http://forums.ageofconan.com/showthread.php?p=2697913#post2697913

If mmorpg.com wants to allow you to advertise your site here after :

 

/quote

"Some people have asked about the site. I wanted to point out what we're about.



We will offer a place where you can get the same news as some of the "other places" but we are players, not business men in suits running a site. Of course we want to make money and continue, but we aren't in it for the money. A good example is MMORPG.com



MMORPG has slanted reviews based on support, advertising dollars, and amusement park MMOs. They have a very biased view, and if you think they give a damn about you, you are crazy. In fact, after we upgraded our site and I posted on the Darkfall forums, the douchebags at MMORPG apparently felt threatened, as they banned my account. For what? Their reason/excuse? Because I had two accounts there. They are afaid of us coming within 10 feet of them because we have integrity, and they give games like Age of Conan a 7.



We aren't AoC fanbois, but we are honest, and this is something you will see once our reviews start cropping up. Funcom supports us, and we support Funcom. Why? Because we like the game and they deserve the support after the time and money they've put into it. Right now, we're focused on making sure the site is working and implementing some forums, but I urge ANYONE to take a hard look at sites like MMORPG.com where it's all about the buck and about them. They care nothing about their readers except that they have dollar signs over their heads.



We will do EVERYTHING we can to provide the same quality (once the change is done) and news that they provide, but without bias. The difference is that we provide commentary from a guild leader's standpoint and answer questions in regards to guilds. And we are brutal when it comes to the truth.

__________________

Tauntress

The Covenant ~ Cimmeria

www.angryguildleader.com

 

/end quote

 

then they have that right.  In fact, you seem to be the one with "conspiracy theories" since you believe they banned you because they're afraid of you. lol

 

By the way, judging from the responses in this thread, you look like the "arse", not me.

 

And for Mr. Moderator, this is on the damn topic, as the lack of integrity shown by chaosngn/Sylassa reflects directly on the integrity of the review he is promoting. "Funcom supports us and we support them" is more than enough to question the motives behind the review.

 

This gets erased, I will take it to John as well.

 

Edit: In fact, just in case, I've already sent John a PM.

nihce

I think I just found a poster that is more illogical and his tendency to the irrelevant is bigger than our dream team of aoc haters. He even pulls "mighty John" which is something I haven't seen our haters do. 

a.) your post is irrelevant 

b.) you speak of some secret motives based on the statement "funcom supports us, we will support funcom" - this can plainly be a statement "funcom support their players, so they deserve the respect and support" ... you have no case (integrity LOL)

The review was in general received good and is said to be fair and real. If the site it is posted on is anti mmorpg.com WELL GUESS WHAT - it doesn't matter. 

 

Anyway I would like to congratulate the idiot of the month ... he uses the finaticd tactic - colored posts and tendency towards  history but manages to add that special something that clearly wins him the title

 

Now mods please delete these posts since the person who wrote them is clearly delusional. "who is afraid of big bad magical john?" ...