DF will close its doors soon enough, a great example of them being desperate is their attempt at making a class system! sad that they consider viable a 2 month grind! ouch...
haha, this is hilarious. Darkfall will not be closing it's doors anytime soon. There are too many players who are enjoying what it is with so many more coming in every day. The "grind" isn't bad for some, is tolerable for other, and the ones who think it's so bad just don't like RPG games, period, go play something else.
PRESTIGE CLASSES were a part of discussion and in developements YEARS before the game was even in closed beta, So in NO way is this an attempt to keep players, hahahaha, the people who take the time to trash stuff they know nothing about amuse me so much.
Good luck with life, it's apparent that nothing will ever satisfy you trolls. Darkfall is a niche game, if you don't like it move on, otherwise leave us alone so we can enjoy our game. The dev's have done nothing but continue with the image they've had all along making adjustments as necessary. I love the direction it's going and hope they stick to their guns.
Playing since NA release, 4 hrs a night and 0 grinding, been loving every minute of it.
Keep it up AV.
Too many players and they start a discussion with community? If you had single brain cell you wouldnt its not logical. And there isnt a point where are "too many" players its never enough. If you get better informed then you would find out that they didnt manage to payback their debts so far. Their investors arent thrilled... As i said if all would go well they wouldnt suddenly start communication with community after 1 1/2 year of silence ...
Xianthos, you really should posting crap. Its not the majority of the community that think, like you tell us. Also Prestige classes don't have anything to do with the classical class-system of other mmorpgs, but are specialisations like these already in game.
People quit because they don't want to pay money to be a loser for 6 months.
because we all born Schwarzenegger
do u get this image ? u want muscle make the warkout take steroids and make the diet steroids whit no workout will get u fat the same thing apply on darkfall even fi u get al stats and skill to 100 you will still lose in pvp because you dont know to aim and you will still be a loser for 6 months
The skills for being good at Darkfall aren't much different than the skill for being good at most FPS style games, with some differences granted, but all of the grinding necessary to raise your stats and skills to the point where you are at a competetive level with even an unskilled vet is terrible. Any changes to make the playing field more even from a character standpoint can only be beneficial to the game as a whole.
bacause on a FPS u get double jump aoe spells casting time buff debuffs penalty based on armour
i will like to see any FPS pro how he deal whit the timing and ablities on darkfall
I would like to see any darkfall "pro" kill a pro fps player in any twitchy quake style game.
Back to the topic at hand, prestige classes might actually bring me back into darkfall, it always annoyed me that to be viable required me to be some sort of spell flinging warrior archer. Any way to specialize would be awesome, as I remember before launch I was excited to try darkfall as an archer, later to find out unless I had a ton of different spells I would be useless.
I had trouble with that sentence. It's hard to imagine how they started there and ended up with what they released.
On speeding up character progression, having played before the speed-up, I think it needed to be done. But doing it more than half a year after release.... well that was obviously going to be a kick in the guts to those who endured the grind. That decision should have been made in beta.
I also agree with those who feel that the prestige classes are a disappointing throwback to classical classes. A big part of the appeal of this game was the open skill system. Prestige classes will undermine that.
Loved this game at launch, was fun to engage in great pvp fights and get looted and get loot from other noobs, after few months the grinders returned to pvp fields and it was boring and impossible to fight against players with great skills and stats.
I definitely want another sandbox game like DFO - less grind more fun, thanks.
i cannot talk about the early( when released ) days of darkfall..
I just started darkfall about 9/10 weeks ago.. and i really like the game..
Some people take alot of other mmorpg and compare them with this.. i really don't know why.. because this game is all about swing and hit.. and this takes skill.. there is no tab and mouseclick hit in in this mmo which makes darkfall the NEXT gen together with age of conan..
All you people who are playing tab target mouse click games and talk about skills makes me laugh..there is no skill involved with spamming MS in wow for expl..
Av did a really good job with this game if you look at resources they had. and its only getting better.
Loads of people talk about the mass grinding.. yes its kinda hardcore.. farming honor in wow for expl ain't?
What i do like to see in darkfall is the adding of NPC guards in city's or hamlets because every one just launches over the walls which makes a citywall in my opinion just pointless. even some city's you can double jump over the walls, and the guard tower dmg is a joke if use good rings and necklaces
Really darkfall is like this.. start game and do what ever you like.. if you wanne sit near and lake and watch the sun come up you can. chop trees, fish,mine and so on.
The crafting system in darfkall is really advanced and your crafted items really means something on the market..
On the other hand there is no mail system and you can bank your stuff even in hostile city's which to me not acceptable..
They should add more wilderness banks and make a new system without the possibility to bank your stuff in enemy city's or hamlets..
gaining stats is in some way compared with gaining levels for expl..
You say 5/6 mounth's grinding stats to be succesfull in pvp? maybe % true..but you still need to aim. compare to lineage: you need to be certen level to make part of the siege so i don't know what point your making here..
somethink about the communty in darkfall: most of players are above 20 of age so its very mature.. and people are really trying to get you up to date regarding all the features in darkfall.. from start you may have the impression of the game like wtf is this and what must i do.. but if you read guides watch movies and put some time in it you will notice it will get much better.
Negative(to me) is the identify system in darkfall.. its really hard to tell who is who (enemy or foe) during sieges and would like to see some improvements regarding this matter..
Last think: to me darkfall is the best pvp/openworld/pve next gen mmo on the market atm and believe me i tried most of the mmo's out there.
Recently tried global agenda too.. i don't even understand why they call that a mmo should be just a multy player game..
Not sure whats more funny, the idiots who didnt know prestige classes were suppose to be in at launch,
OR the retards who think prestige classes mean class based.
Think UO, not retarded for a sec guys, or SWG, they had prestige classes, they just didnt call it that.
You have an option of picking a class( again you retards are just going strong in this thread).
Ok so now we got something that will softening the grind( you can compete with a prestige class, instead of needing to take 5k hours of macro'ing to compete with someone who did(did I mention you need exploitable gold too? to fund the macroing)
Ya, again stfu retards if you dont play Darkfall, or too retarded to know what a PRESTIGE class is lol.
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Also its hilarious of how many are so stupid they think this will kill the game, they probably dont even play and dont know the population is hurting due to grind, due to no end game, due to no hardcap.
This is not a hardcap, its an option to specialize in a area and be better then someone who didnt, while giving up other stuff.
Thats all, goes right along with SANDBOX, in fact they call it a sand BOX, because there is a end. Though the end comes in different forms to different players that use different methods with the sand and tools the devs provide us.
DFO needs a lot more fluff/sandbox feature, to reach its full potential, but combat is imbalanced atm, the macro/exploit er's will win vs those who dont. This feautre they adding, may have classes in the title, but it is just a specialization with a drawback like the ones we got, you have an option, it is a much needed a change, those who dont think so, dont play the game, or retarded!
"the communty in darkfall: most of players are above 20 of age so its very mature.."
The only response to that quote is a big "ROFL". Never met a more immature community in a gaming environment. Age does not always indicate a maturity level.
Darkfall has possibilities...just that I don't see the current developers willing to make the improvements they need.
I would like to see any darkfall "pro" kill a pro fps player in any twitchy quake style game.
I'm not sure what are you trying to say... u think a good cs player has chances with a guy representing hes level in quake and vice versa? You can be good in fps games in general but you have no chance against a guy that is also good in fps games but specializes in one game only those guys can do simply insane stuff. Some of the best dfo players have rich expirience in fps games. Plus some of the well known and respected ones didnt grind shit at all. It's not like we all come from WOW or other girly games. Finnaly we are att mmorpg.com so dont come up with that "twitch style game pro" epeen talk go ESL and prove something there.
OR the retards who think prestige classes mean class based.
Yes, how dumb someone might think the prestige Class is Class based. What would give them that idea?
I'd saying being retarded enough to form an opinion without having A) played the game or bothered to read the info would give them that idea.
90% of the people who bitch and cry about Darkfall don't play the game, it's understandable it's a niche product in which they cant 'max out teh statzorz' in 5 minutes so it goes beyond the limit of their attention spans.
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Too many players and they start a discussion with community? If you had single brain cell you wouldnt its not logical. And there isnt a point where are "too many" players its never enough. If you get better informed then you would find out that they didnt manage to payback their debts so far. Their investors arent thrilled... As i said if all would go well they wouldnt suddenly start communication with community after 1 1/2 year of silence ...
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anything to make DF more like an RPG and less like a giant battle arena is good in my books.
no is just one more specialization but yes the name is damn misleading
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Xianthos, you really should posting crap. Its not the majority of the community that think, like you tell us. Also Prestige classes don't have anything to do with the classical class-system of other mmorpgs, but are specialisations like these already in game.
I would like to see any darkfall "pro" kill a pro fps player in any twitchy quake style game.
Back to the topic at hand, prestige classes might actually bring me back into darkfall, it always annoyed me that to be viable required me to be some sort of spell flinging warrior archer. Any way to specialize would be awesome, as I remember before launch I was excited to try darkfall as an archer, later to find out unless I had a ton of different spells I would be useless.
We start out with a grind-free philosophy.
I had trouble with that sentence. It's hard to imagine how they started there and ended up with what they released.
On speeding up character progression, having played before the speed-up, I think it needed to be done. But doing it more than half a year after release.... well that was obviously going to be a kick in the guts to those who endured the grind. That decision should have been made in beta.
I also agree with those who feel that the prestige classes are a disappointing throwback to classical classes. A big part of the appeal of this game was the open skill system. Prestige classes will undermine that.
This game was much more fun when it didn't exist.
Loved this game at launch, was fun to engage in great pvp fights and get looted and get loot from other noobs, after few months the grinders returned to pvp fields and it was boring and impossible to fight against players with great skills and stats.
I definitely want another sandbox game like DFO - less grind more fun, thanks.
i cannot talk about the early( when released ) days of darkfall..
I just started darkfall about 9/10 weeks ago.. and i really like the game..
Some people take alot of other mmorpg and compare them with this.. i really don't know why.. because this game is all about swing and hit.. and this takes skill.. there is no tab and mouseclick hit in in this mmo which makes darkfall the NEXT gen together with age of conan..
All you people who are playing tab target mouse click games and talk about skills makes me laugh..there is no skill involved with spamming MS in wow for expl..
Av did a really good job with this game if you look at resources they had. and its only getting better.
Loads of people talk about the mass grinding.. yes its kinda hardcore.. farming honor in wow for expl ain't?
What i do like to see in darkfall is the adding of NPC guards in city's or hamlets because every one just launches over the walls which makes a citywall in my opinion just pointless. even some city's you can double jump over the walls, and the guard tower dmg is a joke if use good rings and necklaces
Really darkfall is like this.. start game and do what ever you like.. if you wanne sit near and lake and watch the sun come up you can. chop trees, fish,mine and so on.
The crafting system in darfkall is really advanced and your crafted items really means something on the market..
On the other hand there is no mail system and you can bank your stuff even in hostile city's which to me not acceptable..
They should add more wilderness banks and make a new system without the possibility to bank your stuff in enemy city's or hamlets..
gaining stats is in some way compared with gaining levels for expl..
You say 5/6 mounth's grinding stats to be succesfull in pvp? maybe % true..but you still need to aim. compare to lineage: you need to be certen level to make part of the siege so i don't know what point your making here..
somethink about the communty in darkfall: most of players are above 20 of age so its very mature.. and people are really trying to get you up to date regarding all the features in darkfall.. from start you may have the impression of the game like wtf is this and what must i do.. but if you read guides watch movies and put some time in it you will notice it will get much better.
Negative(to me) is the identify system in darkfall.. its really hard to tell who is who (enemy or foe) during sieges and would like to see some improvements regarding this matter..
Last think: to me darkfall is the best pvp/openworld/pve next gen mmo on the market atm and believe me i tried most of the mmo's out there.
Recently tried global agenda too.. i don't even understand why they call that a mmo should be just a multy player game..
Not sure whats more funny, the idiots who didnt know prestige classes were suppose to be in at launch,
OR the retards who think prestige classes mean class based.
Think UO, not retarded for a sec guys, or SWG, they had prestige classes, they just didnt call it that.
You have an option of picking a class( again you retards are just going strong in this thread).
Ok so now we got something that will softening the grind( you can compete with a prestige class, instead of needing to take 5k hours of macro'ing to compete with someone who did(did I mention you need exploitable gold too? to fund the macroing)
Ya, again stfu retards if you dont play Darkfall, or too retarded to know what a PRESTIGE class is lol.
Edit:
Also its hilarious of how many are so stupid they think this will kill the game, they probably dont even play and dont know the population is hurting due to grind, due to no end game, due to no hardcap.
This is not a hardcap, its an option to specialize in a area and be better then someone who didnt, while giving up other stuff.
Thats all, goes right along with SANDBOX, in fact they call it a sand BOX, because there is a end. Though the end comes in different forms to different players that use different methods with the sand and tools the devs provide us.
DFO needs a lot more fluff/sandbox feature, to reach its full potential, but combat is imbalanced atm, the macro/exploit er's will win vs those who dont. This feautre they adding, may have classes in the title, but it is just a specialization with a drawback like the ones we got, you have an option, it is a much needed a change, those who dont think so, dont play the game, or retarded!
"the communty in darkfall: most of players are above 20 of age so its very mature.."
The only response to that quote is a big "ROFL". Never met a more immature community in a gaming environment. Age does not always indicate a maturity level.
Darkfall has possibilities...just that I don't see the current developers willing to make the improvements they need.
Yes, how dumb someone might think the prestige Class is Class based. What would give them that idea?
I'm not sure what are you trying to say... u think a good cs player has chances with a guy representing hes level in quake and vice versa? You can be good in fps games in general but you have no chance against a guy that is also good in fps games but specializes in one game only those guys can do simply insane stuff. Some of the best dfo players have rich expirience in fps games. Plus some of the well known and respected ones didnt grind shit at all. It's not like we all come from WOW or other girly games. Finnaly we are att mmorpg.com so dont come up with that "twitch style game pro" epeen talk go ESL and prove something there.
I'd saying being retarded enough to form an opinion without having A) played the game or
bothered to read the info would give them that idea.
90% of the people who bitch and cry about Darkfall don't play the game, it's understandable it's a niche product in which they cant 'max out teh statzorz' in 5 minutes so it goes beyond the limit of their attention spans.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."