Man, someone gone on a leaking spree They will prolly find out who did it though.. i was in the friends and family alpha for TBC and there was only like 5-20 people online at any given time the first weeks.. So i figure it cant be that hard to find the one who is leaking..
Blizzard doesn't care.
Goblin car, lol.. so lame with the helicopters, motorcycles and now cars??!! those are such immersion breakers imo One of the reasons i dont play wow anymore.. so fucking stupid..
I completely agree. The goblin gyrocopters were true to the RTS, though.
Wintergrasp (and the other siege content) was a good idea (in theory), but the players should be riding dinosaurs or giant monsters like hydras instead of vehicles.
people forget that WoW is a fantasy-steampunk game, goblins/gnomes are both engineers/tinkers that invent weird stuff, its supposed to be in the game and i think its a good thing, a little variation in the standard fantasy theme.
I must admit they are nice screenshots but i don't think WoW will be for me again as too many things have happened like the cross server looking for a group system etc that make the game a no go for me these days . I'd imagine Cataclysm will be the best thing since slice bread if you enjoy WoW as it is now but it does nothing to address the issues that made many people leave .
to last poster!you are probably right in 12 month on xfire they number went from 500000 to around 250000 to 300000
a big drop even for wow.so it means they might not lose customer but player are losing interest in wow.and the fact big guns like FORSAKEN WORLD,GUILD WARS 2 ETC are around the corner may shift the gamer toward other title
so by releasing these at this time it will keep interest up for wow(at least long enough till it get released)thats what blizzard hope probably.hard to say what gamer will do !it wouldnt take a big push this year from the other title i mentionned to eat huge shunk of wow market.blizzard knows this!
we ll have to wait and see.for me vanilla was wow .all expension after were just a shadow of wow .(vanilla) there is another tread about this and there are youtube video with some preliminary exemple what made vanilla wow mmorpg as opposed to the morpg it has become!
Forsaken World is "big guns"? Ok lost your cred right there, couldn't read past that.
ok!i ll bite!china market alone witch last they checked (not long ago)had 404 million active internet user!i wonder how many there are in america!not 404 million thats for sure so yes forsaken world being made in china and perfect world being very popular there means that company alone is a big guns, and if you check around the net you will find that forsaken world will soon be their main AAA title!even blizzard pour huge amount of ressource to bring in asian to play their title.just because we dont ear a lot from them stuff in asia doesnt mean they dont exist no mather how mutch we wish it
their total population?1350 million!so we ll run out of customer way before they do at the pace the net is progressing there!
that is if we havent been passed by a long time ago)
I must admit they are nice screenshots but i don't think WoW will be for me again as too many things have happened like the cross server looking for a group system etc that make the game a no go for me these days . I'd imagine Cataclysm will be the best thing since slice bread if you enjoy WoW as it is now but it does nothing to address the issues that made many people leave .
havent seen any world raid or potential stuff to call wow massive like i could call it back in vanilla wow
if im right and they did boot it from the game ,there will be no reason for me to play this title since i dig massive multiplayer game(i dont really dig multiplayer game.)
Underwhelming? You do realize you will be able to FLY all over those zones, right? That alone is a feat in development for them. YOu also aren't seeing all the quest changes. So basically, if you leveled a toon before Cataclysm, doing it after will feel like a completely different world. Sheesh. Nothing makes you people happy except bitching about everything.
Fly, like you can fly already in Outland, Northrend and most MMOs released in the past few years?
Oh yes, I guess I missed that revolutionary aspect.
And you mean they're going to bowl us over with 10,000 new "Kill X mobs" quests instead of the previous 10,000 "Kill X mob" quests?
The envelope, it's just bursting from all the pushing!
The point is, this is an update to stale old content. An update, not an "expansion"...
Most MMOs? Aion... but it's limited. Only one to do it right is Vanguard. I never said revolutionary. I said a feat of development for Blizzard, in taking OLD code and putting new Code in and letting us fly in all zones of WoW. The game STILL does it better than Vanguard or Aion, control wise.
Kill X mobs in this game aren't half as bad as EQ2/LOTRO/Vanguard and so on and so on. Hmm come to think of it, games WITHOUT quests have you kill 10,000 mobs to get skills up. (except Eve of course, but they might as well for as long as it takes to research skills in higher tiers)
The expansion aspect is the Path of the Titans, new zones, 5 more levels, more dungeons etc. PLUS the update you think is so shoddy.
Any more griping? If you don't like it, why are you here harping on it? I personally WANT the mmorpg's to redo stale old content. It's called renovation. Every game suffers from stagnation, at least Blizzard is taking a risk in doing something here.
Goblin car, lol.. so lame with the helicopters, motorcycles and now cars??!! those are such immersion breakers imo One of the reasons i dont play wow anymore.. so fucking stupid..
saw about 2 hour of streaming various area of alpha core cataclysm!all i can say is if they havent worked on a solution either
trough remote differantial compression or ms donnybrook!im sorry to say even instanced this game will lag like no game ever lagged before!the game was empty no npc no pvp at all and it lagged so imagine when the server are full of player looking like the graphic in dalaran and you get the idea of blizzard problem of lag will face !but then maybe blizzard has a solution already
working on their test but the alpha core i saw if supplied like the wotlk copy will lag a ton!
You're not serious are??? That video was probally from a sandbox. And alot of people have already said it not real stable so there is your problem. It has nothing to do with the game itself. Plz know what you are talking about before opening your mouth.
saw about 2 hour of streaming various area of alpha core cataclysm!all i can say is if they havent worked on a solution either
trough remote differantial compression or ms donnybrook!im sorry to say even instanced this game will lag like no game ever lagged before!the game was empty no npc no pvp at all and it lagged so imagine when the server are full of player looking like the graphic in dalaran and you get the idea of blizzard problem of lag will face !but then maybe blizzard has a solution already
working on their test but the alpha core i saw if supplied like the wotlk copy will lag a ton!
You're not serious are??? That video was probally from a sandbox. And alot of people have already said it not real stable so there is your problem. It has nothing to do with the game itself. Plz know what you are talking about before opening your mouth.
Also the PC it was on could of been a cheap laptop - the video would not of been 1080p running at 120h - a stream does not run at a steady 30fps even less so when there are 600+ watching as was the stream I had a quick look at and also its ALPHA with 6 month of dev time left.
Underwhelming entirely. All the 'new' zones are just more cluttered. No more open spaces. Just doodads left and right, packed in tight.
This isn't news. This is PR. This is info leaked to match hype that's being built for E3 by other sections of the gaming industry. And what has been leaked is nothing more than extra doodads and shader changes. FUN!
It's more (only better) of what millions love.. nothing wrong with that.
And that's fine. But it doesn't change what it is... or rather, what it isn't.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc. We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be. So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away. - MMO_Doubter
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people forget that WoW is a fantasy-steampunk game, goblins/gnomes are both engineers/tinkers that invent weird stuff, its supposed to be in the game and i think its a good thing, a little variation in the standard fantasy theme.
p.s. try tame a hydra
I must admit they are nice screenshots but i don't think WoW will be for me again as too many things have happened like the cross server looking for a group system etc that make the game a no go for me these days . I'd imagine Cataclysm will be the best thing since slice bread if you enjoy WoW as it is now but it does nothing to address the issues that made many people leave .
wow
! well I will come back for sure! 
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ok!i ll bite!china market alone witch last they checked (not long ago)had 404 million active internet user!i wonder how many there are in america!not 404 million thats for sure so yes forsaken world being made in china and perfect world being very popular there means that company alone is a big guns, and if you check around the net you will find that forsaken world will soon be their main AAA title!even blizzard pour huge amount of ressource to bring in asian to play their title.just because we dont ear a lot from them stuff in asia doesnt mean they dont exist no mather how mutch we wish it
their total population?1350 million!so we ll run out of customer way before they do at the pace the net is progressing there!
that is if we havent been passed by a long time ago)
havent seen any world raid or potential stuff to call wow massive like i could call it back in vanilla wow
if im right and they did boot it from the game ,there will be no reason for me to play this title since i dig massive multiplayer game(i dont really dig multiplayer game.)
Most MMOs? Aion... but it's limited. Only one to do it right is Vanguard. I never said revolutionary. I said a feat of development for Blizzard, in taking OLD code and putting new Code in and letting us fly in all zones of WoW. The game STILL does it better than Vanguard or Aion, control wise.
Kill X mobs in this game aren't half as bad as EQ2/LOTRO/Vanguard and so on and so on. Hmm come to think of it, games WITHOUT quests have you kill 10,000 mobs to get skills up. (except Eve of course, but they might as well for as long as it takes to research skills in higher tiers)
The expansion aspect is the Path of the Titans, new zones, 5 more levels, more dungeons etc. PLUS the update you think is so shoddy.
Any more griping? If you don't like it, why are you here harping on it? I personally WANT the mmorpg's to redo stale old content. It's called renovation. Every game suffers from stagnation, at least Blizzard is taking a risk in doing something here.
Yupp.. Not so much a leak as a PR stunt... Still i like alot of the new looks.
This have been a good conversation
hum.. leaking an alpha version onto torrent sites that any one can download a PR stunt?
If this is real, someone seriously broke the NDA. =/
Can't agree more.
You're not serious are??? That video was probally from a sandbox. And alot of people have already said it not real stable so there is your problem. It has nothing to do with the game itself. Plz know what you are talking about before opening your mouth.
Also the PC it was on could of been a cheap laptop - the video would not of been 1080p running at 120h - a stream does not run at a steady 30fps even less so when there are 600+ watching as was the stream I had a quick look at and also its ALPHA with 6 month of dev time left.
People are riding raptors. I doubt they would be any easier than a hydra.
"" Voice acting isn't an RPG element....it's just a production value." - grumpymel2
And that's fine. But it doesn't change what it is... or rather, what it isn't.
That is exactly right, and we're not saying NO to save WoW, because it is already a lost cause. We are saying NO to dissuade the next group of greedy suits who decide to emulate Blizzard and Cryptic, etc.
We can prevent some of the future games from spewing this crap, but the sooner we start saying no, the better the results will be.
So - Stand up, pull up your pants, and walk away.
- MMO_Doubter
Gilneas looks cool... still going through all the areas atm :x
I'm ready to see some leaks on the new ability animations.
EDIT 1: Nice... talent calculator
EDIT 2: Well nevermind... all the talents still look the same
Was attempting to show this to a friend but keep getting a "info not found" style error. Has this leak been pluged?