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Everquest 3... wouldn't it be nice
jimbles4000
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MMOs are starting to loose their luster, they're being made to easy, and they're going heavy on the flashy graphics with little content to the stories. I miss actual content and quests that were more then just go x and kill y. I complain about selling a game on graphics, though I'll admit I can't stay interested in the old games anymore because I have seen what they can look like.
I have recently started missing Everquest's story and huge amount of content. There doesn't seem to be any news of a new one, but wouldn't it be nice?
They have a great story, they could make a great game again, or they could remake an old giant with a new look.
I'd like to think im not alone in wanting a fresh new look at Norrath, and a game worth devoting time to.
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To be honest, there's no need for one. The Final Fantasy MMO and EQ have always been very much alike, and now with FFXIV coming out, that will take EQ's place.
Of course EQ3 would be cool, but you might as well think of XIV as it's (asian) spiritual successor.
Looks aren't everything, and I lost my faith in SOE years ago. Gameplay is what is important, it trumps graphics in the end, and that remark coming from a graphics artist. But SOE lost perspective on gameplay years ago, and I doubt they have changed in the slightest and never will change.
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Well, there is news of a new one, it's Everquest Next (or some such thing).
What it will be is anyone's guess. I highly doubt it will play like the original everquest but who knows, maybe the designers will offer a wide range of game play to a wide range of players.
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Vanguard Saga of Heros was EQ3
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More like Sony bought it so they could let it rot and not be in competition with their EQII and eventually EQIII they're mostly likely developing atm.
Extrapolating on eq2, EQ3 will have no death penalty. It will have an in game cash shop. It will be soloable. Plenty of instancing and so on. The only thing it will share with EQ1 is some lore.
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Actually, that would be my guess from the way they have done for recent years. Yet another failure that will not recapture their subscribers they once had when they made Massively-morpg's. Sure, people will say they want what you mentioned, but they won't subscribe for years as EQ players did from the beginning, they will just go back the the game they already have that is polished with that junk.
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Always thought that Vanguard was EQ3 . ... the same developers were suppose to have full-rights over Vanguard and promised to bring back more EQ than EQ2 had . ... they did that but there will never be anything quite like the original EQ.
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Well they wouldnt have to work too hard to recapture their past subscription numbers, they topped out at about 450k, and today thats considered a complete failure in the eyes of those that came in with the likes of WoW, however when I first found EQ1 back in sept 1999, 450k was a heck of a big number for the type of game.
Heck I even had fun playing the stand-alone tutorial.
As for Vanguard being EQ3, hmm well if Sigil had done a decent enough job in the first place then yes perhaps it could have been the spiritual successor to EQ1, but it certainly is no next gen EQ3, far from it.
Vanguard was what the former SOE employees (Sigil) wanted EQ2 to be. VG was not meant to be EQ3, if it was meant to be any everquest it's eq2.
Try more like EQ 1.5. the inbetween game. I'll give vanguard this, it has better immersion factors than EQ2, but albeit a bit behind with certain graphics and game mechanics. But not far. I do enjoy Vanguard, don't get me wrong, but I think EQ3 will have next gen graphics/mechanics, etc.
But they will never get WoW numbers, WoW players already have their game, it's called World of Warcraft, and it's pretty much a locked player-base. But yes, they will try again, to please the WoW players, and fail. Half million long-term mmorpg players are fine for an mmorpg, it's a heck of a lot better than 100k players or less from making a WoW clone that those 500k+- mmorpg players do not want. I see this in indie dev communities too, people dreaming of making a WoW clone that will tap the WoW subscriber base, and that adds up to a big fail. It's like greed run rampant, everyone wants to get rich, but keep striking fools gold and turning away a good living.
imo a win for EQ3 would be for them to make it EQ1 style, keep it 99% persistent/un-instanced yet update certain features like mob handling and crafting systems. Keep it zone based as well, so each zone will remain unique, some large some small. Will they do that? well fools gold sells for something, enough to buy a bowl of rice, so, doubt it.
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Well ... what is the point of EQ3, aside from an update of the graphics ?
Personally I actually prefer lower end graphics, as long as the rest of the game is sound.
lol, not at all. VG is just a more open WoW with a little more challenge.
Vanguard was made by many of the original developers of EQ, but the company that created it, Sigil (which no longer exists), had no legal rights to any EQ properties. They supposedly wanted to make Vanguard in the spirit of EQ, but it had no connection to the game whatsoever. SOE ended up picking up the publishing rights to Vanguard after Sigil had a falling out with their original publisher, Microsoft. Eventually, Sigil disbanded and SOE took over the game entirely.
It's kinda sad too. Vanguard promised so much to fans of the prime days of EQ (like myself), but it ended up mutating into a completely different creature than what was planned.
Another EQ in this day and age? Wouldn't work tbh with SOE running the show they would slap in a cash shop and pump out another clone in a line of WOW clones that are already out there. I mean come on how many more MMO wannabes with training wheels are going to be made when these publishers and developer's finally going to get the memo that copying WOW isnt going to bring them millions of subscribers?
How much more guided linear content can a person take until one day devs say hell with this and let's just kick bad players off the rails and set them out to make their own way in the game. Are people that unimaginative, are people that shallow expecting to be rewarded with items without actually do the effort to earn it instead of flashing cash to buy it? How much more market saturation is it going to take before this industry implodes on itself with all the content lite casual MMO with no real reason to play them past 3 months? When will people "get it" that these are supposed to be MMORPG's and not single player games and not all about MMO's are just about combat and gear and raids? These are questions people need to start asking themselves, if not which in my opinion when these pusblishers and studios start folding cause of their inability to create a quality game and create a game with realistic goals and a target audience in mind and not just cater to millions , cause the definition of fun is different for every player. In general, I think trying to make a game fun for everybody is the best way to ensure that it isn’t fun for anybody, hence any game ever developed since WOW.
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A game with a new world, good variety of classes/skills/races, more competent coding. Eq1 suffers from end-game-itis. New players cannot find a home so it will continually dwindle in population. Vanguard had good classes and races and a good new world but suffered from poor coding. If I could find a game with the balanced classes and variety of races, a new world, and it didnt suck code wise, Id jump on it in a heartbeat. Also, good lore is cool but brand new lore is better than copying old eq lore. Ive always thought that the spirit of eq was not the lore but the design.
as someone said there is an EQ3 called EQnext in development and was confirmed last year by 2 sources one been offical.
I'm getting pretty tired of the same old song and dance. Same games different graphics. I would really like to see some innovations in gameplay.
If "Everquest 3/Everquest Next" is made by Sony or published by them. Then no I'm not interested.
However, if Sigil 'Old school Verant" made it with a huge budget i'd play it in a heart beat.
A man or "gamer" should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.
Nah SOE would have tons of instancing and loot cards for all the best stuff.
well would love a EQ3, but in a new setings...dont really feel like going back to all the well known places, and need it to be made by someone else but SOE, they are way too busy trying to copy WoW and that games features, instead of stick to their original plan for EQ2, plus listening too much to whiny players, remove all the things in the original game that were really great...to me
obvious some disagree spirit runs(no you dont run like an immortal, you had to fight back in a weakened state...and that to a place where you died in the first place), access quests, boat rides and crafting where crafters were depended on each other for making the good products(am sure tho this part could have been made less boring heh...but removing it completely were just lazy bending to complaining customers) and the like were a good idea.
either way doubt SOE would make a proper eq1 succesor, more likely to make a current EQ2 succesor, which aint worth it imo....besides 2 games in the same settings should think that cow would been milked, would consider it as they only made it EQ3 because they dont care to make a completely new lore/settings.
hm old link to the article on this site about the EQ next: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/247687
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As long as they didnt try to re-use the same lore. Eq3 should be a brand new world with a brand new story.
Everquest wasn't "story", Everquest was "world". Please get this right.