Even in the early months when bw's were "not working as intended" and could dish out retarded amounts of pbae, they were little to no threat to players with over 80 IQ. Crying about bw's only demonstrates you fail at learning curves. Sorry. You lose because you're a poor player, not because the game is too hard. Unfortunately to keep subs companies have to cater to these masses of stupid cry-babies.
I'm not elite. I am average and I can see this. Your ineptitude and lack of problem solving process ruins good playing experiences, ruins fun for gamers who seek challenges, and in the end has ruined whole games.
People whined about magnet, especially thru keep doors, and while I never played an engineer or equiv magus, I never saw a problem with it. I learned how to not let players do this to me. But the tactic was nerfed completely.
People whined about keep lord room seige because they didn't have coordination to get up into and thru the room and fight back in, so they added a second ramp to make seiges so god-awfully retardedly easy my cousin with down syndrome can damn near duo them.
I think some of you screw everything up you touch to have an easy mode button. I really don't like it.
Even in the early months when bw's were "not working as intended" and could dish out retarded amounts of pbae, they were little to no threat to players with over 80 IQ. Crying about bw's only demonstrates you fail at learning curves. Sorry. You lose because you're a poor player, not because the game is too hard. Unfortunately to keep subs companies have to cater to these masses of stupid cry-babies.
I'm not elite. I am average and I can see this. Your ineptitude and lack of problem solving process ruins good playing experiences, ruins fun for gamers who seek challenges, and in the end has ruined whole games.
People whined about magnet, especially thru keep doors, and while I never played an engineer or equiv magus, I never saw a problem with it. I learned how to not let players do this to me. But the tactic was nerfed completely.
People whined about keep lord room seige because they didn't have coordination to get up into and thru the room and fight back in, so they added a second ramp to make seiges so god-awfully retardedly easy my cousin with down syndrome can damn near duo them.
I think some of you screw everything up you touch to have an easy mode button. I really don't like it.
I understand what you're trying to say, and usually, you would be right. However, the BW problem was one that, if properly executed by the BW and his team, could not be countered. You could not kill the BW, and if you tried to kill his support team, you died to the PBAOE. Done correctly, it was unstoppable. Perhaps you didn't ever see it executed this effectively, but I did, and it was just plain broken game mechanics.
Even in the early months when bw's were "not working as intended" and could dish out retarded amounts of pbae, they were little to no threat to players with over 80 IQ. Crying about bw's only demonstrates you fail at learning curves. Sorry. You lose because you're a poor player, not because the game is too hard. Unfortunately to keep subs companies have to cater to these masses of stupid cry-babies.
I'm not elite. I am average and I can see this. Your ineptitude and lack of problem solving process ruins good playing experiences, ruins fun for gamers who seek challenges, and in the end has ruined whole games.
People whined about magnet, especially thru keep doors, and while I never played an engineer or equiv magus, I never saw a problem with it. I learned how to not let players do this to me. But the tactic was nerfed completely.
People whined about keep lord room seige because they didn't have coordination to get up into and thru the room and fight back in, so they added a second ramp to make seiges so god-awfully retardedly easy my cousin with down syndrome can damn near duo them.
I think some of you screw everything up you touch to have an easy mode button. I really don't like it.
I understand what you're trying to say, and usually, you would be right. However, the BW problem was one that, if properly executed by the BW and his team, could not be countered. You could not kill the BW, and if you tried to kill his support team, you died to the PBAOE. Done correctly, it was unstoppable. Perhaps you didn't ever see it executed this effectively, but I did, and it was just plain broken game mechanics.
Ok. To isolate use knockback, ae knockback, use heal-reduction debuffs, or hell, just silence the bw if there's one, stun a healer, murder another healer quickly, in pvp wear some resist gear..
Alot of your problem in t4 sc's is going to be underleveled or undergeared teammates. I hated douches who jumped in t4 sc at 28 just to melt all over the place with two hits. They're stupid and inconsiderate, never made it into a guild with me, and especially never in a pre-made.
I played this game alot. I did see everything people could throw at you. I saw stuff you won't see anymore like I mentioned previously. Granted sometimes learning came in revelations, actual mistakes like mis-targets during focus firing paying off because they drew healer attention, crazy stuff you'd never expect like that "together opponent pre-made" chasing after a tank running a wide lateral. Often playing a zealot with a proverbial "kick me" sign on my back, my fav move was to purposely run THRU the opponent line, with my team healing only me, as I could only imagine them spamming "kill the healers!". Counter intuitive. Resulted in our dps running up and destroying their dps from behind wayyy faster than they could rez.
The only, ONLY, reason some tactic is "unstoppable" is because you LET it be.
And to think Paul Barnett claimed there was no balance issue, and that people just needed to learn to play..
Again, to reiterate, playing against bw's back when they were way more imbalanced than they are now (for god sakes, the first 2 months several spells like meltdown didn't even build combustion! fire cage was spammable! now 'that's' broken) I genuinely feel, no, I know these "changes" are made to keep subscribers who can't stop themselves from being cheese-dicked.
Many people think when things change after they complain, they were right. Many times things are changed to make them shut up. Open your eyes and think for 5 seconds. BW is the squishiest class I've ever seen in any pvp, anywhere, and now they're being nerfed more because players don't know what their own debuffs do, or think they should be competitive with sub-standard gear or specs.
I resubbed a little bit back with a 2 month game card. Right now I got about 5 days left and I cant even play that much, because they STILL refuse to do ANYTHING about magus. Im just going to layoff playing this game at all until they can learn to pay attention to more than 2 classes (they had these 2 classes in the patch notes every single patch, but refuse to do anything with the numerous other underpowered or overpowered classes).
Quite a lot of incorrect information here. I'm a RR80 bomb specced BW btw (Pandemic of Karak Eight Peaks then Karak Norn servers)
Firstly both Bright Wizards and Sorcerers are exactly the same in their bomb (pbaoe) damage. They have been for sometime, in fact they use the same damage spells, tactics, equipments etc.
This patch wont really affect a Sorc bombing at all - they have ways around the combustion change. It will slightly affect the BW bomb damage but again its very easy to get around it.
So no; this wont see an end to the BW / Sorc bombing.
It does stop the Sorc using an exploit of an aoe dot potion that ticks for huge damage - that is a good thing.
On the plus side, we have gotten information that Close Quarters (25% increase in BW/Sorc damage at close range) is being looked at; as is the items from LOTD that bypass a tanks defence abilities.
Also Mythic's pvp team went up against a Karak Norn team (order) on the Test Server and Mythic got bombed flat I dont think they were happy! In any case I have it on good authority that there are some more anti-bombing from BW/Sorc changes coming in addition to the above.
Warhammer is a pretty good pvp game right now, except for the bombing its very good. What it isnt is for those without a backbone - whatever your class or how well you think you play it, your going to die a lot.
Me, I am working my way to being killed in pvp 100,000 times and I might well be the first player to reach it as I was for 10,000 times.
the bw was perfectly fine before they nered the crap out of it.. the problem lies with whine babies such as your selves.
here is a tip for you!!!
kill the healers and you kill the bright wizards!!! it really is that simple. healers are the bw's weakness take them down a bw can no longer combust and they cannot survive even the simplest of attacks. i know ive played a bw since the patch and after the patch and its always the same story whiney cry babies looking to be one hit wanders in all the games they play,,
the bright wizard has no tank or self heals like all the other casting classes on destro.. its power is its ability to dps.. and you cry babies whined that away. now bw isnt worth playing. it has no survivability.
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Guys! I'm hopelessly lost in a mountain of mole hills! Them damn moles!
Even in the early months when bw's were "not working as intended" and could dish out retarded amounts of pbae, they were little to no threat to players with over 80 IQ. Crying about bw's only demonstrates you fail at learning curves. Sorry. You lose because you're a poor player, not because the game is too hard. Unfortunately to keep subs companies have to cater to these masses of stupid cry-babies.
I'm not elite. I am average and I can see this. Your ineptitude and lack of problem solving process ruins good playing experiences, ruins fun for gamers who seek challenges, and in the end has ruined whole games.
People whined about magnet, especially thru keep doors, and while I never played an engineer or equiv magus, I never saw a problem with it. I learned how to not let players do this to me. But the tactic was nerfed completely.
People whined about keep lord room seige because they didn't have coordination to get up into and thru the room and fight back in, so they added a second ramp to make seiges so god-awfully retardedly easy my cousin with down syndrome can damn near duo them.
I think some of you screw everything up you touch to have an easy mode button. I really don't like it.
I understand what you're trying to say, and usually, you would be right. However, the BW problem was one that, if properly executed by the BW and his team, could not be countered. You could not kill the BW, and if you tried to kill his support team, you died to the PBAOE. Done correctly, it was unstoppable. Perhaps you didn't ever see it executed this effectively, but I did, and it was just plain broken game mechanics.
They should of made changes like this LONG ago.
A man or "gamer" should look for what is, and not for what he thinks should be.
Ok. To isolate use knockback, ae knockback, use heal-reduction debuffs, or hell, just silence the bw if there's one, stun a healer, murder another healer quickly, in pvp wear some resist gear..
Alot of your problem in t4 sc's is going to be underleveled or undergeared teammates. I hated douches who jumped in t4 sc at 28 just to melt all over the place with two hits. They're stupid and inconsiderate, never made it into a guild with me, and especially never in a pre-made.
I played this game alot. I did see everything people could throw at you. I saw stuff you won't see anymore like I mentioned previously. Granted sometimes learning came in revelations, actual mistakes like mis-targets during focus firing paying off because they drew healer attention, crazy stuff you'd never expect like that "together opponent pre-made" chasing after a tank running a wide lateral. Often playing a zealot with a proverbial "kick me" sign on my back, my fav move was to purposely run THRU the opponent line, with my team healing only me, as I could only imagine them spamming "kill the healers!". Counter intuitive. Resulted in our dps running up and destroying their dps from behind wayyy faster than they could rez.
The only, ONLY, reason some tactic is "unstoppable" is because you LET it be.
"You are disabled!"
-Warhammer Online, Mythic, 2008.
And to think Paul Barnett claimed there was no balance issue, and that people just needed to learn to play..
Again, to reiterate, playing against bw's back when they were way more imbalanced than they are now (for god sakes, the first 2 months several spells like meltdown didn't even build combustion! fire cage was spammable! now 'that's' broken) I genuinely feel, no, I know these "changes" are made to keep subscribers who can't stop themselves from being cheese-dicked.
Many people think when things change after they complain, they were right. Many times things are changed to make them shut up. Open your eyes and think for 5 seconds. BW is the squishiest class I've ever seen in any pvp, anywhere, and now they're being nerfed more because players don't know what their own debuffs do, or think they should be competitive with sub-standard gear or specs.
Sorry, should read "spells like scorched earth" but you knew what I meant.
I resubbed a little bit back with a 2 month game card. Right now I got about 5 days left and I cant even play that much, because they STILL refuse to do ANYTHING about magus. Im just going to layoff playing this game at all until they can learn to pay attention to more than 2 classes (they had these 2 classes in the patch notes every single patch, but refuse to do anything with the numerous other underpowered or overpowered classes).
I dont even know why they still wasting time on this crap instead of coming out with daoc 2 and garantee 200k sub right away.
rofl, as if bright wizards were the problem with this. this was a tactic sorcerers used the most.
But of course the overpopulated destruction zergs QQ the loudest.
It could be a such a good MMORPG, but I am afraid it is like 2 years too late for that.
How many of you actually play the game? It doesn't sound like any of you actually play war...
Scorched Earth? Really? This won't stop bomb groups.
The definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over expecting different results.
I might actually still be playing if they had...might...
WAR had so much potential, what a waste.
Quite a lot of incorrect information here. I'm a RR80 bomb specced BW btw (Pandemic of Karak Eight Peaks then Karak Norn servers)
Firstly both Bright Wizards and Sorcerers are exactly the same in their bomb (pbaoe) damage. They have been for sometime, in fact they use the same damage spells, tactics, equipments etc.
This patch wont really affect a Sorc bombing at all - they have ways around the combustion change. It will slightly affect the BW bomb damage but again its very easy to get around it.
So no; this wont see an end to the BW / Sorc bombing.
It does stop the Sorc using an exploit of an aoe dot potion that ticks for huge damage - that is a good thing.
On the plus side, we have gotten information that Close Quarters (25% increase in BW/Sorc damage at close range) is being looked at; as is the items from LOTD that bypass a tanks defence abilities.
Also Mythic's pvp team went up against a Karak Norn team (order) on the Test Server and Mythic got bombed flat
I dont think they were happy! In any case I have it on good authority that there are some more anti-bombing from BW/Sorc changes coming in addition to the above.
Warhammer is a pretty good pvp game right now, except for the bombing its very good. What it isnt is for those without a backbone - whatever your class or how well you think you play it, your going to die a lot.
Me, I am working my way to being killed in pvp 100,000 times and I might well be the first player to reach it as I was for 10,000 times.
the bw was perfectly fine before they nered the crap out of it.. the problem lies with whine babies such as your selves.
here is a tip for you!!!
kill the healers and you kill the bright wizards!!! it really is that simple. healers are the bw's weakness take them down a bw can no longer combust and they cannot survive even the simplest of attacks. i know ive played a bw since the patch and after the patch and its always the same story whiney cry babies looking to be one hit wanders in all the games they play,,
the bright wizard has no tank or self heals like all the other casting classes on destro.. its power is its ability to dps.. and you cry babies whined that away. now bw isnt worth playing. it has no survivability.
cry babies lol.
What are you smoking? This is a year old thread.
Besides, BW & Sorcs are still the top ranged damage dealers.
Sorc still remains the tops destro rdps but me thinks the SW is now at least on par with the BW on order side.
sorry for the necro of course.
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