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NCSoft as publisher ? lol fail

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  • PalomidesPalomides Member Posts: 33

    NCsoft is just the publisher and yes they have a mottled record and much to learn about Western markets.

     

    Luckily, the game is developed and administered by Arena Net - which is why GW is awesome and L2 and Aion fail. 

    Thank you, lock this retarded thread please?

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  • SgtFrogSgtFrog Member Posts: 5,001

    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet

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  • PalomidesPalomides Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet

    ArenaNet is an American company that was founded by former key players of Blizzard who were involved in the development of Warcfraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and the original Battle.net network - all extremely succesful.

    NC Soft Korea is the umbrella company; ArenaNet previously known as Triforge was acquired by NC Soft in 2008.  However, NC West is the American subsidiary of NC Soft that governs ArenaNet - ArenaNet does not directly report to NC Soft Korea.  What is the significance of this?

    In the case of development for both L2 and Aion, NC Soft Korea developed the games (in Korea), and they were "westernized" for American audiences.  NC West is responsible for the westernization of games like Aion, however they are NOT the developer of the game.

    In the case of GW1 and GW2, both games are developed by ArenaNet, not by NC Soft Korea.  Although NC West is a subsidiary of NC Soft Korea, ArenaNet and NC Soft Korea are two entirely different developersNC Soft Korea, which is the company everyone is worried about, has no say in the development of GW2 - that is up to ArenaNet with the supervision of NC West here in America.

    Again, that is why L2 and Aion fail, and GW is awesome and GW2 will be awesome.

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  • LeucrottaLeucrotta Member Posts: 679

    Originally posted by Palomides

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet

    ArenaNet is an American company that was founded by former key players of Blizzard who were involved in the development of Warcfraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and the original Battle.net network - all extremely succesful.

    NC Soft Korea is the umbrella company; ArenaNet previously known as Triforge was acquired by NC Soft in 2008.  However, NC West is the American subsidiary of NC Soft that governs ArenaNet - ArenaNet does not directly report to NC Soft Korea.  What is the significance of this?

    In the case of development for both L2 and Aion, NC Soft Korea developed the games (in Korea), and they were "westernized" for American audiences.  NC West is responsible for the westernization of games like Aion, however they are NOT the developer of the game.

    In the case of GW1 and GW2, both games are developed by ArenaNet, not by NC Soft Korea.  Although NC West is a subsidiary of NC Soft Korea, ArenaNet and NC Soft Korea are two entirely different developersNC Soft Korea, which is the company everyone is worried about, has no say in the development of GW2 - that is up to ArenaNet with the supervision of NC West here in America.

    Again, that is why L2 and Aion fail, and GW is awesome and GW2 will be awesome.

    Dusnt change the fact that NCSoft fully owns Anet, also not since 2008 but 2002 and where Anet report to dusnt mean anything. NC west need to report to Korea anyways, in the end NCKorea pull the strings.

     

    And your L2 and Aion fail is rather off as well.

  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    Originally posted by Leucrotta

    Originally posted by Palomides

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet

    ArenaNet is an American company that was founded by former key players of Blizzard who were involved in the development of Warcfraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and the original Battle.net network - all extremely succesful.

    NC Soft Korea is the umbrella company; ArenaNet previously known as Triforge was acquired by NC Soft in 2008.  However, NC West is the American subsidiary of NC Soft that governs ArenaNet - ArenaNet does not directly report to NC Soft Korea.  What is the significance of this?

    In the case of development for both L2 and Aion, NC Soft Korea developed the games (in Korea), and they were "westernized" for American audiences.  NC West is responsible for the westernization of games like Aion, however they are NOT the developer of the game.

    In the case of GW1 and GW2, both games are developed by ArenaNet, not by NC Soft Korea.  Although NC West is a subsidiary of NC Soft Korea, ArenaNet and NC Soft Korea are two entirely different developersNC Soft Korea, which is the company everyone is worried about, has no say in the development of GW2 - that is up to ArenaNet with the supervision of NC West here in America.

    Again, that is why L2 and Aion fail, and GW is awesome and GW2 will be awesome.

    Dusnt change the fact that NCSoft fully owns Anet, also not since 2008 but 2002 and where Anet report to dusnt mean anything. NC west need to report to Korea anyways, in the end NCKorea pull the strings.

     

    And your L2 and Aion fail is rather off as well.

     What's your point?

    In what way does NCSoft Korea pull the stings on Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2? Who develops the games? Where does the live team for Guild Wars come from? Where does the support for Guild Wars and Guild Wars 2 come from?

  • WraithoneWraithone Member RarePosts: 3,806

    Originally posted by Leucrotta

    Originally posted by Palomides


    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet

    ArenaNet is an American company that was founded by former key players of Blizzard who were involved in the development of Warcfraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and the original Battle.net network - all extremely succesful.

    NC Soft Korea is the umbrella company; ArenaNet previously known as Triforge was acquired by NC Soft in 2008.  However, NC West is the American subsidiary of NC Soft that governs ArenaNet - ArenaNet does not directly report to NC Soft Korea.  What is the significance of this?

    In the case of development for both L2 and Aion, NC Soft Korea developed the games (in Korea), and they were "westernized" for American audiences.  NC West is responsible for the westernization of games like Aion, however they are NOT the developer of the game.

    In the case of GW1 and GW2, both games are developed by ArenaNet, not by NC Soft Korea.  Although NC West is a subsidiary of NC Soft Korea, ArenaNet and NC Soft Korea are two entirely different developersNC Soft Korea, which is the company everyone is worried about, has no say in the development of GW2 - that is up to ArenaNet with the supervision of NC West here in America.

    Again, that is why L2 and Aion fail, and GW is awesome and GW2 will be awesome.

    Dusnt change the fact that NCSoft fully owns Anet, also not since 2008 but 2002 and where Anet report to dusnt mean anything. NC west need to report to Korea anyways, in the end NCKorea pull the strings.

     

    And your L2 and Aion fail is rather off as well.

     Well, I'd not say they failed. I have no doubt that they have been quite profitable for NCsoft(otherwise they would have long since pulled the plug as they did with three games so far).  But neither of them has moved out of the niche market. One of the factors(in the west at least) is the forced PvP. (For someone else IN AION AND LINAGE2...) ^^  Both look like quite interesting games in fact. But I do not play gankfest games these days.

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  • KordeshKordesh Member Posts: 1,715

    The first guild wars was published by NCsoft.....why is this even noteworthy?

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  • djazzydjazzy Member Posts: 3,578

    Originally posted by Kordesh

    The first guild wars was published by NCsoft.....why is this even noteworthy?

     Exactly. I wonder if some of the people here actually knows what publishing means. Here's a hint, it's not developing the game.

  • PalomidesPalomides Member Posts: 33

    Originally posted by Leucrotta

    Originally posted by Palomides

    Originally posted by SgtFrog

    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet

    ArenaNet is an American company that was founded by former key players of Blizzard who were involved in the development of Warcfraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and the original Battle.net network - all extremely succesful.

    NC Soft Korea is the umbrella company; ArenaNet previously known as Triforge was acquired by NC Soft in 2008.  However, NC West is the American subsidiary of NC Soft that governs ArenaNet - ArenaNet does not directly report to NC Soft Korea.  What is the significance of this?

    In the case of development for both L2 and Aion, NC Soft Korea developed the games (in Korea), and they were "westernized" for American audiences.  NC West is responsible for the westernization of games like Aion, however they are NOT the developer of the game.

    In the case of GW1 and GW2, both games are developed by ArenaNet, not by NC Soft Korea.  Although NC West is a subsidiary of NC Soft Korea, ArenaNet and NC Soft Korea are two entirely different developersNC Soft Korea, which is the company everyone is worried about, has no say in the development of GW2 - that is up to ArenaNet with the supervision of NC West here in America.

    Again, that is why L2 and Aion fail, and GW is awesome and GW2 will be awesome.

    Dusnt change the fact that NCSoft fully owns Anet, also not since 2008 but 2002 and where Anet report to dusnt mean anything. NC west need to report to Korea anyways, in the end NCKorea pull the strings.

     

    And your L2 and Aion fail is rather off as well.

    "Dusnt"?  I'm sorry but if you can't spell the word "doesn't" then you have no business discussing corporate governance or business structuring.  You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, do you even know the difference between a publisher and a developer?  It is a very big deal who ArenaNet reports to, that is what suggests influence in the project.

    NC Soft Korea does not "pull the strings", they simply own the subsidiary that the developer is under - that would be more likely in the case of a merger where the two companies combined, but in this case the larger simply bought the smaller for strategic reasons that I'm sure you couldn't begin to understand.  Also, 3 of ArenaNet's top guys moved into top tier spots in NC West; the CEO, CTO, and President of NC West are all from ArenaNet - I'm sure they do the string pulling.  ArenaNet's people run NC West, NC West runs Arena Net.  NC West reports to NC Soft Korea strictly in terms of operations and profitability - not on a creative or development level, which is the only thing that should concern players.

    ArenaNet is in control of GW2 - look at every interview, it's all ArenaNet's poeple and it's being developed in their studio in the US.

    As far as L2 and Aion failing, that's a matter of opinion.  In my opinion both games being flooded with bots is a failure, and Aion so far has missed the mark in a lot of ways which is why it is losing subs.  So no, that is not "rather off", it's a substantiated opinion.

    Please lock this thread, it's getting dumber every second.

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  • Bama1267Bama1267 Member UncommonPosts: 1,822

    Originally posted by jomargue

    Originally posted by conceptte


    Originally posted by jomargue


    Originally posted by conceptte

    Only thing that fails here is the OP.  NCsoft has owned Arenanet since 2002.   Arenaent were not smokign anything, Ncsoft makes the decisions. 

     

    If thats true then its more than enough reason to avoid this game like plague

     

     

    If its true.................LOL.  This is what im talking about.   People coming here tlaking about stuff they dont know anything about, and then talking about if things just happened.

     ok I didnt know Arenanet and NCSoft were same company , does that invalidate me to talk about how bad of a publisher NCSoft is? or how bad their non-existant CS is? gotta love fanbois..

     Not knowing what you are talking about generally invalidates a person's claim. At the very least It won't help your cause.

  • pepsi1028pepsi1028 Member Posts: 471

    Becuase the first Guild Wars was such a failure, right?

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  • HeretiqueHeretique Member RarePosts: 1,536


    Originally posted by Palomides

    Originally posted by Leucrotta

    Originally posted by Palomides

    Originally posted by SgtFrog
    Maybe because NCsoft own Arenanet
    ArenaNet is an American company that was founded by former key players of Blizzard who were involved in the development of Warcfraft, Diablo 1 and 2, Starcraft, and the original Battle.net network - all extremely succesful.
    NC Soft Korea is the umbrella company; ArenaNet previously known as Triforge was acquired by NC Soft in 2008.  However, NC West is the American subsidiary of NC Soft that governs ArenaNet - ArenaNet does not directly report to NC Soft Korea.  What is the significance of this?
    In the case of development for both L2 and Aion, NC Soft Korea developed the games (in Korea), and they were "westernized" for American audiences.  NC West is responsible for the westernization of games like Aion, however they are NOT the developer of the game.
    In the case of GW1 and GW2, both games are developed by ArenaNet, not by NC Soft Korea.  Although NC West is a subsidiary of NC Soft Korea, ArenaNet and NC Soft Korea are two entirely different developers.  NC Soft Korea, which is the company everyone is worried about, has no say in the development of GW2 - that is up to ArenaNet with the supervision of NC West here in America.
    Again, that is why L2 and Aion fail, and GW is awesome and GW2 will be awesome.


    Dusnt change the fact that NCSoft fully owns Anet, also not since 2008 but 2002 and where Anet report to dusnt mean anything. NC west need to report to Korea anyways, in the end NCKorea pull the strings.
     
    And your L2 and Aion fail is rather off as well.


    "Dusnt"?  I'm sorry but if you can't spell the word "doesn't" then you have no business discussing corporate governance or business structuring.  You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, do you even know the difference between a publisher and a developer?  It is a very big deal who ArenaNet reports to, that is what suggests influence in the project.
    NC Soft Korea does not "pull the strings", they simply own the subsidiary that the developer is under - that would be more likely in the case of a merger where the two companies combined, but in this case the larger simply bought the smaller for strategic reasons that I'm sure you couldn't begin to understand.  Also, 3 of ArenaNet's top guys moved into top tier spots in NC West; the CEO, CTO, and President of NC West are all from ArenaNet - I'm sure they do the string pulling.  ArenaNet's people run NC West, NC West runs Arena Net.  NC West reports to NC Soft Korea strictly in terms of operations and profitability - not on a creative or development level, which is the only thing that should concern players.
    ArenaNet is in control of GW2 - look at every interview, it's all ArenaNet's poeple and it's being developed in their studio in the US.
    As far as L2 and Aion failing, that's a matter of opinion.  In my opinion both games being flooded with bots is a failure, and Aion so far has missed the mark in a lot of ways which is why it is losing subs.  So no, that is not "rather off", it's a substantiated opinion.
    Please lock this thread, it's getting dumber every second.

    This.

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