the game is good till about lvl 30, ill give it that. it sold me on so many levels and aside from the no swimming mechanic and every one you see in your class looking pretty much the same 10lvls at a time till 30. but 30+ then the real grind begins ( and i mean GRIND, the exp between lvls becomes insane. it probably took me as long to lvl from 1-22 as it did between lvl30-32 ) not to mention the poor drop rates, bots, ganking, account hacking etc. you will also be at the mercy of your faction choice and the Trader hell it will cause if you pick the 'wrong' side. as in most mmos good guys/bad guys usually run 3:1 on average( if not more )
enjoy it for a short time, cause its good. till you see how the game really works. but until that time-enjoy the bliss of a new mmo
If a restaraunt announced a new hamburger, would you conduct an internet poll to determine wether or not you liked the hamburger??
trying a new hamburger doesn't require you to spend $50 and waste hours and hours and hours of time to get a good taste of it to find out if you like it or not.
We could argue forever about how inaccurate Xfire is. We could argue forever about how it's 'slowly decreasing population' isn't so slow as it was quite fast for at least the first 7 months I played.(I forgot about the free month before when I said 6mo) We could argue forever about how meaningful server merges within the first few years of a MMO's life are.
As I said, Xfire's trend has proven time and time again that it is a very accurate means to calculate the increase or decrease of a game's population. It is inaccurate to calculate population numbers, but it is dead-on for trends as it has shown with.. well every single MMO. It's not really a point anyone can "argue forever", let alone argue for "a minute".
And as xfire and server populations attest, there is simply no way the population had decreased "quite fast for at least 7months". It has been decreasing but at a very slow rate since the 2nd month. I've been playing on 2 servers and the population change hasn't been noticeable since then. It's not a point to "argue forever" as logic and facts show other wise. If it was the case, then Aion population would be hovering with WAR right now. It is not, and is holding its own on the top (albeit less than impressive) pile of MMOs with LOTRo and EvE.
Ultimately it doesn't matter. It is what it is. It is now forever a part of the dark era of MMOs.(WAR AoC and now Aion) Now, there will always be people like me who pop up to say 'eh, it's not horrible, but you're better off saving your money'.
It is a part of the dark era of MMOs for you. It is not so for everyone, it's just in your head. Other people would recommend this game with their eyes closed. Whether you consider the game good or bad is simply an opinionated matter, and this actually could make anyone argue forever because there's no end to it. You need to put up with the fact that it was you who didn't like it, not that it's bad game. Also if you wanna count Aion in the "dark era of MMOs", you missed pretty much all post-WoW games, 'cause they have ALL gone through a "mass exodus" of players after the first couple of months. No exception.
We at least agree that there was a mass exodus after the first month and that it was primarily comprised of 'WoW players'. However I do not agree that it stopped after that nor that it was ultimately WoW players who left Aion in general. *WoW player(with negative connotation) = first and only MMO = WoW (it's meaning for me)
As said earlier, the "mass exodus" did indeed stop after the first 2 months. A sharp decline following the first free month, and a lesser one after the first sub month. There is no point arguing that it had been "sharply declining" for 7 months, because it simply is not so and nothing out there leads to anything like that. If it was so we would now be looking at 32 pretty dead servers, which isn't the case at all, and in Europe ENG at least, five out of the seven english servers are pretty healthy.
It's not just 'WoW players' that have a problem with this game. Whether it be FFXI, LotRO, AoC, Cabal etc, oodles of players over long periods of time spanning much more than two months have left Aion to go back home. This is my personal experience(read: not made up to support my opinion) and it's meaningful. Refute it all you want but it won't change it's truth of existence. I'd sure hope that by now the game has stopped gushing players but it doesn't change what happened and why it happened. ^_^b
I never said it was just WoW players, I said the majority are WoW players, and the number of the people coming from other games is relatively pretty low to the sheer amount of WoW players who plucked to this game because it was "WoW with wings". Needless to say they got disappointed and left. Even if you add up all the people who came from other games and left, it wouldn't affect the population much because they are far less than the WoW players trying it out, and they are much more likely to stick with the game than them as well.
It's easy to be on the inside looking out, never aware of the whole picture. There's nothing wrong with being on the inside, unaware of it all, so long as you're happy. It's just silly to try and tell others who've been inside and outside that they're missing something. I mean sure, if I didn't give the game a fair chance nor listened to other opinions or was some anti-aion-fanboy, have at me... but that is not the case.
Wise words indeed.
So you claim you are "aware of everything" because you're "on the outside" now? I'm not on the inside or on the outside, I'm simply looking at things objectively and looking at everything we have in front of us such as post-WoW MMO launches, Xfire trends and current server population (which you're not part of as I understand). The simple truth is bright as day for those who add a tiny bit of thinking to their repertoire, and while it's your choice to choose to see it and accept it or not, it doesn't change the facts we have in front of us.
P.S. I used to defend Aion once upon a time as well
I'm not defending Aion, I'm defending common sense. and I will probably join you in quitting until 2.0 releases (after checking out 1.9 for a couple of weeks). I really like the game but with summer incoming and 1.9 being more about mechanics and features than content, I'm going to take a break for a bit. Maybe. Take care.
We could argue forever about how inaccurate Xfire is. We could argue forever about how it's 'slowly decreasing population' isn't so slow as it was quite fast for at least the first 7 months I played.(I forgot about the free month before when I said 6mo) We could argue forever about how meaningful server merges within the first few years of a MMO's life are.
As I said, Xfire's trend has proven time and time again that it is a very accurate means to calculate the increase or decrease of a game's population. It is inaccurate to calculate population numbers, but it is dead-on for trends as it has shown with.. well every single MMO. It's not really a point anyone can "argue forever", let alone argue for "a minute".
And as xfire and server populations attest, there is simply no way the population had decreased "quite fast for at least 7months". It has been decreasing but at a very slow rate since the 2nd month. I've been playing on 2 servers and the population change hasn't been noticeable since then. It's not a point to "argue forever" as logic and facts show other wise. If it was the case, then Aion population would be hovering with WAR right now. It is not, and is holding its own on the top (albeit less than impressive) pile of MMOs with LOTRo and EvE.
Ultimately it doesn't matter. It is what it is. It is now forever a part of the dark era of MMOs.(WAR AoC and now Aion) Now, there will always be people like me who pop up to say 'eh, it's not horrible, but you're better off saving your money'.
It is a part of the dark era of MMOs for you. It is not so for everyone, it's just in your head. Other people would recommend this game with their eyes closed. Whether you consider the game good or bad is simply an opinionated matter, and this actually could make anyone argue forever because there's no end to it. You need to put up with the fact that it was you who didn't like it, not that it's bad game. Also if you wanna count Aion in the "dark era of MMOs", you missed pretty much all post-WoW games, 'cause they have ALL gone through a "mass exodus" of players after the first couple of months. No exception.
We at least agree that there was a mass exodus after the first month and that it was primarily comprised of 'WoW players'. However I do not agree that it stopped after that nor that it was ultimately WoW players who left Aion in general. *WoW player(with negative connotation) = first and only MMO = WoW (it's meaning for me)
As said earlier, the "mass exodus" did indeed stop after the first 2 months. A sharp decline following the first free month, and a lesser one after the first sub month. There is no point arguing that it had been "sharply declining" for 7 months, because it simply is not so and nothing out there leads to anything like that. If it was so we would now be looking at 32 pretty dead servers, which isn't the case at all, and in Europe ENG at least, five out of the seven english servers are pretty healthy.
It's not just 'WoW players' that have a problem with this game. Whether it be FFXI, LotRO, AoC, Cabal etc, oodles of players over long periods of time spanning much more than two months have left Aion to go back home. This is my personal experience(read: not made up to support my opinion) and it's meaningful. Refute it all you want but it won't change it's truth of existence. I'd sure hope that by now the game has stopped gushing players but it doesn't change what happened and why it happened. ^_^b
I never said it was just WoW players, I said the majority are WoW players, and the number of the people coming from other games is relatively pretty low to the sheer amount of WoW players who plucked to this game because it was "WoW with wings". Needless to say they got disappointed and left. Even if you add up all the people who came from other games and left, it wouldn't affect the population much because they are far less than the WoW players trying it out, and they are much more likely to stick with the game than them as well.
It's easy to be on the inside looking out, never aware of the whole picture. There's nothing wrong with being on the inside, unaware of it all, so long as you're happy. It's just silly to try and tell others who've been inside and outside that they're missing something. I mean sure, if I didn't give the game a fair chance nor listened to other opinions or was some anti-aion-fanboy, have at me... but that is not the case.
Wise words indeed.
So you claim you are "aware of everything" because you're "on the outside" now? I'm not on the inside or on the outside, I'm simply looking at things objectively and looking at everything we have in front of us such as post-WoW MMO launches, Xfire trends and current server population (which you're not part of as I understand). The simple truth is bright as day for those who add a tiny bit of thinking to their repertoire, and while it's your choice to choose to see it and accept it or not, it doesn't change the facts we have in front of us.
P.S. I used to defend Aion once upon a time as well
I'm not defending Aion, I'm defending common sense. and I will probably join you in quitting until 2.0 releases (after checking out 1.9 for a couple of weeks). I really like the game but with summer incoming and 1.9 being more about mechanics and features than content, I'm going to take a break for a bit. Maybe. Take care.
1. You've showed no proof about Xfire. You made a statement and never backed it up, only kept repeating it. You say Xfire trends are accurate, I say it's argueable. You say it's proven but never show it being proven. Wouldn't you rather give me proof or reason instead of repeating yourself?
"It[xfire] is inaccurate to calculate population numbers"
"And as xfire and server populations attest, there is simply no way the population had decreased "quite fast for at least 7months"."
Wut? Xfire is inaccurate for pop numbers but it can attest to no pop decrease? ...and I'm the one who doesn't "add a tiny bit of thinking to their repertoire". HOOOOKAY!
The only thing Xfire is accurate at projecting is what Xfire users like to play. A scientific man would never come to a conclusion with such a measly sample size.
By the graph it says : "Xfire users playing per day 3,459" You do realize that's more or less a single server for any MMO game, right? For an old, dieing game like FFXI, that's less than a server. Not very accurate to base a trend off of if you ask me.
You must be very successful on the stock market if you're able to accurately predict trends from data sample sizes that small. 4k users vs the 200k? or more users playing Aion. (and ultimately millions in the MMO market excluding WoW numbers)
2. Aion /is/ in the dark era whether you like it or not. You're acting like I'm the only person around here feeling this way. In it's own forum this thread's poll is at 42% for, 34.8% against. lol Oh but I'm sure sample size will magically matter to you now or some other silly fan-induced reason to discredit it.
Yet you go on to turn my inside/outside analogy around on me, BRILLIANT! I give Aion what Aion has due. I've openly declared it's not a horrible game. Had you read my posts, you'd see that. However, just because I ultimately disagree with you, you seem to be harping on only one part of my comments and not taking them in whole. More strawmanning... I don't know why you assumed I was only including Aion. All the false assumptions you keep making about me reveal your true motives imo.
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Know what, screw it, I could type so much more but what's the point, right? No doubt you feel this way too. We'll be going at this forever. Apparently conjecture > facts around these parts. I regret seeing this topic in the tracker. Either way, my part has been expressed and anyone who comes to the thread will see it and decide whether or not to heed it.
You aren't presenting anything close to the quality of facts I'd need to change my mind and apparently neither am I. O_O; The only solution between us is agreeing to disagree.
Aion is not doing as well as you claim. Please show numbers to prove me wrong if you wish to refute. My numbers were the sub losses.(server merges anyone?) If Aion didn't lose so many subs, you'd be accurate. Aion's bulk numbers come from asia, which I am not talking about.
Aion is doing rather well, especially for a pvp only game, name me a pvp game that does better then Aion?
Aion is not doing as well as you claim. Please show numbers to prove me wrong if you wish to refute. My numbers were the sub losses.(server merges anyone?) If Aion didn't lose so many subs, you'd be accurate. Aion's bulk numbers come from asia, which I am not talking about.
Aion is doing rather well, especially for a pvp only game, name me a pvp game that does better then Aion?
I'm not getting into another one of these. I already played this game. I say something, you disagree. I offer up numbers and facts, you offer up conjecture.
But here's a tip, "doing as well as you[that other guy] claim" and "doing rather well" and "doing well for a PvP game" are not the same.
Here's a thought. If Aion is so awesome then get off the forums, go play it and let it defend itself. =P
1. You've showed no proof about Xfire. You made a statement and never backed it up, only kept repeating it. You say Xfire trends are accurate, I say it's argueable. You say it's proven but never show it being proven. Wouldn't you rather give me proof or reason instead of repeating yourself?
"It[xfire] is inaccurate to calculate population numbers"
"And as xfire and server populations attest, there is simply no way the population had decreased "quite fast for at least 7months"."
Wut? Xfire is inaccurate for pop numbers but it can attest to no pop decrease? ...and I'm the one who doesn't "add a tiny bit of thinking to their repertoire". HOOOOKAY!
Sorry but I thought it was obvious. The proof that xfire is accurate regarding trends is simply by comparing the population decreases to the xfire trend for any given MMO. It was the case with WAR, AoC, Lotro, they always go hand in hand. Whenever there's an expansion and a leap of renewed subs, it shows an increase on the xfire trend, etc.
Yea it is inaccurate to figure out a game's population numbers, but it is accurate in finding out whether this game is losing, gaining, losing heavily, gaining heavily subs, aka population trend.
2. Aion /is/ in the dark era whether you like it or not. You're acting like I'm the only person around here feeling this way. In it's own forum this thread's poll is at 42% for, 34.8% against. lol Oh but I'm sure sample size will magically matter to you now or some other silly fan-induced reason to discredit it.
No I am fully aware that there are tons of people who go so far as to hate the game for different reasons, and you aren't like that at all imo. However all forums have a high density of negative posts, especially if even cancelled accounts can post (like in Aion's case).
for example, the lotro forums are full of "this game is dying" posts, and AoC (after the expansion) is full of rosy "all is fine" posts. They have to be taken as a pinch of salt, you can't really base anything strictly on forums activity imo.
You aren't presenting anything close to the quality of facts I'd need to change my mind and apparently neither am I. O_O; The only solution between us is agreeing to disagree.
I'm sorry you feel that way... I assure you that had you presented real factual arguments instead of just trying to prove me wrong I would've enjoyed posting more. I've never really judged any person as a "fanboi/hater" type, and I wouldn't even have bothered replying if you had come across as having an extremist point of view.
This isn't directed at you at all, but It's funny that I have yet to see any poster agreeing with another at the end of a conversation.
I really had hoped to convince you, but looks like it's not going to happen. Ah well, take care dude.
Sorry but I just wanted to make a couple of points clear. I'm done as well.
If you consider yourself a hardcore gamer who plays casual games, then this is for you. Gameplay doesn't get any more simpler and boring than this.
Sovrath is a joke and it will desperately do anything to make this game seem good. Disregard everything it says if you want real opinions that aren't tl;dr.
Originally posted by Electriceye Sorry but I just wanted to make a couple of points clear. I'm done as well.
Not a problem. We just don't see eye to eye, nothing wrong with that.
I do have to say though, at least you seemed a lot less argumentative than I'm used to in topics which discuss the value of a game. Honestly, I wish I could agree with you because I really wanted to like Aion.
If a restaraunt announced a new hamburger, would you conduct an internet poll to determine wether or not you liked the hamburger??
Just wanted to comment on this, I thought it was funny.
If said hamburger cost the same as a game did, took many many hours to eat, and had the potential to be totally disgusting halfway through. Then yes I sure would ask around before eating it.
It lacks content, focuses too much on RNG and money grinding and its main focus, which is PvP, is very weak through population and class imbalance (as well as again, too little content); the world is also extremely claustrophobic in many places.
However, there is still a relatively enjoyable experience to be had at first, I can only speak from a point of view of someone starting out in the game when it launched though; I did hear unbeatable twinks are a problem in lower level area's now.
I'd say it is worth the inital buy price as a game, but many people got bored of it too fast after that to warrant a continued sub.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
Should I avoid Aion? From the way I keep hearing, everyone hates this game, I even watched the 1.9 poscast video [link] and by looking at the comments there, the highest rated comments say the developers don't listen to the fans. Also I hear that there's a huge bot and cheating problem by lag spiking, no that can't be good. =(
Well, you should just try the game instead of asking if it's good in a trolland forum .
Half of the negative answeres u get is from haters that prolly didn't even play the game or played it just a bit to get to the conclusion that it's actually a hard game.
Well i'm with aion since CBT#3, im still playing, 9 months straight, and still loving it, yeah it's true game is hard, but it's that the feature that makes the game good, u need to work harder to get your reward, and a reward awarded by ur sweat feels allways better.
Lack of content? Yeah, after 9 months of playing i'm egaerly waiting for the 2.0 update which increase lv cap to 55 and introduces a bunch of new areas and stuff.
But we just got 1.9, which made the game a bit easier for every1, ( to be honest, to much easy coz in my humble opinion this game is VERY easy to lv allready ). took me 3-4 months to reach 50, but i'm not a hardcore player, i rather LIVE my journey, some people got max lv in 1 month and something.
Still, if you want to know if the game is good, try it, and don't come ask in a troll forum where you will only get negative answeres in the middle of some racional answers.
My opinion? Aion is a good game, and is doing great, after 4+ months you will start lacking content depending on your speed of progressing. Im with almost 9 months of playing and still got some plenty of stuff to aquire.
If you'r trying Aion i wish u good luck, and you'll do a right choice, if you will dislike it? Well then at least you tried it.
IF every person tastes would be the same, then we were all fkd up
Should I avoid Aion? From the way I keep hearing, everyone hates this game, I even watched the 1.9 poscast video [link] and by looking at the comments there, the highest rated comments say the developers don't listen to the fans. Also I hear that there's a huge bot and cheating problem by lag spiking, no that can't be good. =(
If you're Asian you'll love it.
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Is that racist? I can never tell.
*slaps* Baka!
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Lotro is going to F2P style which means that the lifetime of mmorpg today is more critically on various contents to keep customer. Endless and over-repeatitive grinding like Aion would have difficulty to attract players. It may not be the issue of Aion itself but it is possibly because the market blew a new wind. Since the game takes long time to develope so there is time gap between the market wind and the game.
I think the WOW-type of mmorpg is fading, Blizzard barely able to keep their current players from lose. Any game still make themselves as WOW clone would be failed. People are numb to Dwarfs or Elfs.
The lifetime of a game is never going to be long life. People likes new game to get new entertainment constantly to fill up their empty time instead of just have something to keep busy.
I think a good web based game could be a future while computing technology is turning to Cloud, and web based game does not take years to release to the market.
What exactly do you do once you hit max level? Someone once said grind PvP Guards so you can get Abyss Points.
I'm considering resubbing with my gf, we had a glad/cleric combo Elyos (forgot the server), and spirit master/ranger combo Asmo.
I hated how slow leveling got after lvl 30, but this last patch has got me thinking.
What's the end-game like?
Farm guards for AP
Farm mobs for weeks so you can fail a craft and rage
Attempt to make kinah
Participate in sieges
Participate in Abyss PVP
Battleground(1)
Farm fort instances for AP
Do the one end game PVE instance
Kill the rift-heroes griefing lowbies
Honestly, if you hated the grind at level 30 you'll still hate it after 1.9. The level grind is nothing in comparison to the grind that starts at 50. That said, I came back for 1.9 playing very casually with some RL friends and I'm managing to have fun. I learned that setting very small goals and expecting to get screwed in 50% of my endeavours helps to lessen the RNG pain that Aion can dish out.
I played in Beta and thought it was kinda fun. Capped a few characters at the restricted level cap (I think it was like 30 or something) and I had a decent time. So I bought 2 copies of the game (1 for me, 1 for the girlfriend). Well we both got past the level restriction at release and BAM! No content! Bots! Account hackings! Ridiculous wait queues!
It was awful. Nothing like the fun little game it was in beta.
You'll love this game if you're a hacker. Otherwise, for legitimate players (me), steer far, far away. Constantly bombarded by hacks, including the game server. It's a sad sight really. I don't understand how anyone could stand playing it over a month. That being said, the game is amazing in and of itself. However, there are conspiracies out there suggesting that NC Soft developed this game with hackers/botters/RWIT in mind... Play it for a month and see for yourself.
At minimum, I think Aion can keep an average gamer in fun for a couple of months. I will probably still go back at some point and sub for a month or two to see the changes. For me, it was well worth the $50 intial purchase...but I'm not one of those gamers that expects to pay $50 and be entertained 14 hours a day for the next five years -- so take it with a grain of salt.
Your mileage may vary, but i still think there are some very unique aspects to Aion which any gamer could appreciate. Avoid Aion? No. Have reasonable expectations about what you're buying? Yes.
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the game is good till about lvl 30, ill give it that. it sold me on so many levels and aside from the no swimming mechanic and every one you see in your class looking pretty much the same 10lvls at a time till 30. but 30+ then the real grind begins ( and i mean GRIND, the exp between lvls becomes insane. it probably took me as long to lvl from 1-22 as it did between lvl30-32 ) not to mention the poor drop rates, bots, ganking, account hacking etc. you will also be at the mercy of your faction choice and the Trader hell it will cause if you pick the 'wrong' side. as in most mmos good guys/bad guys usually run 3:1 on average( if not more )
enjoy it for a short time, cause its good. till you see how the game really works. but until that time-enjoy the bliss of a new mmo
trying a new hamburger doesn't require you to spend $50 and waste hours and hours and hours of time to get a good taste of it to find out if you like it or not.
1. You've showed no proof about Xfire. You made a statement and never backed it up, only kept repeating it. You say Xfire trends are accurate, I say it's argueable. You say it's proven but never show it being proven. Wouldn't you rather give me proof or reason instead of repeating yourself?
"It[xfire] is inaccurate to calculate population numbers"
"And as xfire and server populations attest, there is simply no way the population had decreased "quite fast for at least 7months"."
Wut? Xfire is inaccurate for pop numbers but it can attest to no pop decrease? ...and I'm the one who doesn't "add a tiny bit of thinking to their repertoire". HOOOOKAY!
The only thing Xfire is accurate at projecting is what Xfire users like to play. A scientific man would never come to a conclusion with such a measly sample size.
http://www.xfire.com/games/aion/Aion/
By the graph it says : "Xfire users playing per day 3,459" You do realize that's more or less a single server for any MMO game, right? For an old, dieing game like FFXI, that's less than a server. Not very accurate to base a trend off of if you ask me.
You must be very successful on the stock market if you're able to accurately predict trends from data sample sizes that small. 4k users vs the 200k? or more users playing Aion. (and ultimately millions in the MMO market excluding WoW numbers)
2. Aion /is/ in the dark era whether you like it or not. You're acting like I'm the only person around here feeling this way. In it's own forum this thread's poll is at 42% for, 34.8% against. lol Oh but I'm sure sample size will magically matter to you now or some other silly fan-induced reason to discredit it.
Yet you go on to turn my inside/outside analogy around on me, BRILLIANT! I give Aion what Aion has due. I've openly declared it's not a horrible game. Had you read my posts, you'd see that. However, just because I ultimately disagree with you, you seem to be harping on only one part of my comments and not taking them in whole. More strawmanning... I don't know why you assumed I was only including Aion. All the false assumptions you keep making about me reveal your true motives imo.
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Know what, screw it, I could type so much more but what's the point, right? No doubt you feel this way too. We'll be going at this forever. Apparently conjecture > facts around these parts. I regret seeing this topic in the tracker. Either way, my part has been expressed and anyone who comes to the thread will see it and decide whether or not to heed it.
You aren't presenting anything close to the quality of facts I'd need to change my mind and apparently neither am I. O_O; The only solution between us is agreeing to disagree.
You have my signature.
Aion is doing rather well, especially for a pvp only game, name me a pvp game that does better then Aion?
I'm not getting into another one of these.
I already played this game. I say something, you disagree. I offer up numbers and facts, you offer up conjecture.
But here's a tip, "doing as well as you[that other guy] claim" and "doing rather well" and "doing well for a PvP game" are not the same.
Here's a thought. If Aion is so awesome then get off the forums, go play it and let it defend itself. =P
I am, posted this when i was resting:)
now again btw
Sorry but I just wanted to make a couple of points clear. I'm done as well.
edit: nvm, not worth my time
Is that the definition of playing and posting is it?
If you consider yourself a hardcore gamer who plays casual games, then this is for you. Gameplay doesn't get any more simpler and boring than this.
Sovrath is a joke and it will desperately do anything to make this game seem good. Disregard everything it says if you want real opinions that aren't tl;dr.
I do have to say though, at least you seemed a lot less argumentative than I'm used to in topics which discuss the value of a game. Honestly, I wish I could agree with you because I really wanted to like Aion.
Just wanted to comment on this, I thought it was funny.
If said hamburger cost the same as a game did, took many many hours to eat, and had the potential to be totally disgusting halfway through. Then yes I sure would ask around before eating it.
If the hamburger cost me $50 I'd make an internet poll, start a blog, and ask random people on the street.
It lacks content, focuses too much on RNG and money grinding and its main focus, which is PvP, is very weak through population and class imbalance (as well as again, too little content); the world is also extremely claustrophobic in many places.
However, there is still a relatively enjoyable experience to be had at first, I can only speak from a point of view of someone starting out in the game when it launched though; I did hear unbeatable twinks are a problem in lower level area's now.
I'd say it is worth the inital buy price as a game, but many people got bored of it too fast after that to warrant a continued sub.
Feel free to use my referral link for SW:TOR if you want to test out the game. You'll get some special unlocks!
If you're Asian you'll love it.
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Is that racist? I can never tell.
Well, you should just try the game instead of asking if it's good in a trolland forum
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Half of the negative answeres u get is from haters that prolly didn't even play the game or played it just a bit to get to the conclusion that it's actually a hard game.
Well i'm with aion since CBT#3, im still playing, 9 months straight, and still loving it, yeah it's true game is hard, but it's that the feature that makes the game good, u need to work harder to get your reward, and a reward awarded by ur sweat feels allways better.
Lack of content? Yeah, after 9 months of playing i'm egaerly waiting for the 2.0 update which increase lv cap to 55 and introduces a bunch of new areas and stuff.
But we just got 1.9, which made the game a bit easier for every1, ( to be honest, to much easy coz in my humble opinion this game is VERY easy to lv allready ). took me 3-4 months to reach 50, but i'm not a hardcore player, i rather LIVE my journey, some people got max lv in 1 month and something.
Still, if you want to know if the game is good, try it, and don't come ask in a troll forum where you will only get negative answeres in the middle of some racional answers.
My opinion? Aion is a good game, and is doing great, after 4+ months you will start lacking content depending on your speed of progressing. Im with almost 9 months of playing and still got some plenty of stuff to aquire.
If you'r trying Aion i wish u good luck, and you'll do a right choice, if you will dislike it? Well then at least you tried it.
IF every person tastes would be the same, then we were all fkd up
Cheers.
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Lotro is going to F2P style which means that the lifetime of mmorpg today is more critically on various contents to keep customer. Endless and over-repeatitive grinding like Aion would have difficulty to attract players. It may not be the issue of Aion itself but it is possibly because the market blew a new wind. Since the game takes long time to develope so there is time gap between the market wind and the game.
I think the WOW-type of mmorpg is fading, Blizzard barely able to keep their current players from lose. Any game still make themselves as WOW clone would be failed. People are numb to Dwarfs or Elfs.
The lifetime of a game is never going to be long life. People likes new game to get new entertainment constantly to fill up their empty time instead of just have something to keep busy.
I think a good web based game could be a future while computing technology is turning to Cloud, and web based game does not take years to release to the market.
What exactly do you do once you hit max level? Someone once said grind PvP Guards so you can get Abyss Points.
I'm considering resubbing with my gf, we had a glad/cleric combo Elyos (forgot the server), and spirit master/ranger combo Asmo.
I hated how slow leveling got after lvl 30, but this last patch has got me thinking.
What's the end-game like?
Yes you should avoid Aion.
Farm guards for AP
Farm mobs for weeks so you can fail a craft and rage
Attempt to make kinah
Participate in sieges
Participate in Abyss PVP
Battleground(1)
Farm fort instances for AP
Do the one end game PVE instance
Kill the rift-heroes griefing lowbies
Honestly, if you hated the grind at level 30 you'll still hate it after 1.9. The level grind is nothing in comparison to the grind that starts at 50. That said, I came back for 1.9 playing very casually with some RL friends and I'm managing to have fun. I learned that setting very small goals and expecting to get screwed in 50% of my endeavours helps to lessen the RNG pain that Aion can dish out.
I played in Beta and thought it was kinda fun. Capped a few characters at the restricted level cap (I think it was like 30 or something) and I had a decent time. So I bought 2 copies of the game (1 for me, 1 for the girlfriend). Well we both got past the level restriction at release and BAM! No content! Bots! Account hackings! Ridiculous wait queues!
It was awful. Nothing like the fun little game it was in beta.
So yeah avoid it. Like the plague.
You'll love this game if you're a hacker. Otherwise, for legitimate players (me), steer far, far away. Constantly bombarded by hacks, including the game server. It's a sad sight really. I don't understand how anyone could stand playing it over a month. That being said, the game is amazing in and of itself. However, there are conspiracies out there suggesting that NC Soft developed this game with hackers/botters/RWIT in mind... Play it for a month and see for yourself.
Be water my friend.
At minimum, I think Aion can keep an average gamer in fun for a couple of months. I will probably still go back at some point and sub for a month or two to see the changes. For me, it was well worth the $50 intial purchase...but I'm not one of those gamers that expects to pay $50 and be entertained 14 hours a day for the next five years -- so take it with a grain of salt.
Your mileage may vary, but i still think there are some very unique aspects to Aion which any gamer could appreciate. Avoid Aion? No. Have reasonable expectations about what you're buying? Yes.