SWG dropped 100,000+ subs at the launch of NGE. It was a crazy ass ghost town, as I was there for about another month as I waited for my sub to run out. Then it kept declining the following years. SWG was #3 in the West before NGE regarding subs.
As for the amount of boxes sold, many were probably on station access. Just like SecondLife, the charts/reports are not accurate. SL has 1.5 million unique logins a month (only charted 100k), but only specific subs are reported, not those that use the cash shop. SOE has station access where you get to play all the games on one charge. That's what I had in fact, so I did not have an actual SWG sub for some time, and so probably was not recorded after I canceled or that I was even there that last year.
Actually NGE hit nov 05.....at that time I believe EQ/EQ2/WOW....and possibly FFXI all had more NA subs.
Unsure when LoTRO launched, and when EVE got above SWG(would need to look up).
So it was at least 4th before NGE hit...and possibly as low as 8th.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Remember the interviews Smedley gave shortly after the NGE was released? He was up on his high horse being a real pompous ass, I think I even remember one line with him saying he would "kick WoW's ass". Five years later and now he's stuck making MMOs for the younger crowd.
SWG dropped 100,000+ subs at the launch of NGE. It was a crazy ass ghost town, as I was there for about another month as I waited for my sub to run out. Then it kept declining the following years. SWG was #3 in the West before NGE regarding subs.
As for the amount of boxes sold, many were probably on station access. Just like SecondLife, the charts/reports are not accurate. SL has 1.5 million unique logins a month (only charted 100k), but only specific subs are reported, not those that use the cash shop. SOE has station access where you get to play all the games on one charge. That's what I had in fact, so I did not have an actual SWG sub for some time, and so probably was not recorded after I canceled or that I was even there that last year.
If I am not mistaken we didn't have Station acces untill 2006.
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Actually NGE hit nov 05.....at that time I believe EQ/EQ2/WOW....and possibly FFXI all had more NA subs.
Unsure when LoTRO launched, and when EVE got above SWG(would need to look up).
So it was at least 4th before NGE hit...and possibly as low as 8th.
Asking Devs to make AAA sandbox titles is like trying to get fine dining on a McDonalds dollar menu budget.
Remember the interviews Smedley gave shortly after the NGE was released? He was up on his high horse being a real pompous ass, I think I even remember one line with him saying he would "kick WoW's ass". Five years later and now he's stuck making MMOs for the younger crowd.
If I am not mistaken we didn't have Station acces untill 2006.
And SWG had Cash-shops??