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Most underrated/overrated MMOG?
Derrial
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What do you think is the most underrated MMO game today? And most overrated?
I recently jumped into Pirates of the Burning Sea again which I haven't played since its open beta, and I think it's a really nice game now. Lots of missions to do with stories that are interesting, partially because it's something different from the typical bag of fantasy quests, and the nature of the gameplay means there is never a "kill 10 rats" quest. You're always facing real enemies in various types of ships, or attacking a fort or something. Even "Fedex" type quests are interesting in that game, because hauling goods across the Carribean would have been a real job in that time period, and there's always potential danger in it if you have to cross through PvP waters. Avatar combat still feels a wonky but it's not that bad.
It seems like this game has flown way under the radar. It hasn't had any big controversy or negative reviews, but it also hasn't been very successful. It's just there, plodding along. Maybe it's the slow, tactical combat that has kept it from being a bigger hit. I dunno.
I'm sure a lot of people would pick WoW for most overrated, but I'm going with Eve Online. I've tried numerous times to get into that game, and I just don't get it. Just a big empty universe, flying around seeing the same starfield everywhere you go. Combat seems to involve clicking two buttons to put the ship on auto-pilot/auto-attack and then sitting and watching it for 5 minutes. I've been reading MMORPG.COM's Eve Online Survivor Guy articles, and it seems like it was about the same for him. Just a great big "Meh?" But a lot of people seem to think it's someting special. I can't figure it out. So there.
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I would put Vanguard as one of the under-rated games out there. I didn't start playing Vanguard until a few months ago, so I missed the launch and attendant problems.
What Vanguard has today is a wide open, almost totally instance-less world, that is huge. Lots of interesting classes, including one of the best pet classes of all time: the Necromancer. I like to play pet classes, and the Necro may be the best in any game.
Vanguard also has good harvesting/crafting, housing, tons and tons of content, and not too many players. There are no gold spammers! Not to mention then whole Diplomacy game.
Comparing Vanguard content to, say, STO, is a joke. For every level, there are multiple dungeons and regions to play in. You're level 20? There are at least 4 complete zones wtih their own dungeons, weapon and armor quests, towns, etc, that you can play in. You could play several characters to lvl 50 without duplicating anything.
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why oh why does Vanguard have to be owned by SOE???
(I know why just a lament as I loved VG when I played it two years ago, and I hear it is much better now... and it is still an old fashioned MMO... but SOE.... no way for me)
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For me the most overrated is probably Aion. I played at launch, and while I really wanted to like it, there was just nothing that sucked me in.
It seemed that there was nothing that Aion did that hasn't been done before (and better) by other games.
I was definitely expecting WoW to be the first thing said on these boards, oh well.
I guess i can't really say much because I have only played like 5 MMO's and only in 3 did I spend time in them
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Believe it or not, RuneScape is underrated in my opinion. Yeah, it's a browser game with an immature community and crappy graphics, but it has more variety of activity and better quests than almost any other MMO out there. Is it a lot of grinding? Yes. But at least you can vary your grind.
Overrated? Eh... well, by people around here, I'd have to say those old sandbox MMOs because we all look at them with nostalgia. By the general media? WoW.
I wanted to say Runescape as well, just for the fact that it's quests are amazing.
The most overrated though I would think would be EvE, but it's not for everyone as many people say.... so it's not for me.
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It's an interesting problem. For those who EVE appeals to, it's not overrated because it delivers. For those who will never enjoy EVE unless they put in WASD dogfighting, human avatars (which are coming soon™), or majorly alter the game in some other way, it's certainly overrated. EVE is one of the few MMOs that has demonstrated constant, but slow, growth. I wouldn't call that overrated when other MMOs spike after launch, drop like a rock, and then, if they're lucky, settle at a profitable number of subs.
Eh, I'll elaborate for the first post I agreed with. Runescape has less then perfect graphics, but Runscape isn't a game for looking at. I(by luck mind you) found a perfect mature, and adept community. In other peoples' cases they won't, they will never experience a true clan war and just sulk because of the community. Gameplay isn't that bad mind you, so many different activities.
**Not to mention those quests are freaking addicting! They're hilarious and I always want to see what they're up to next. :P
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Pretty much same for me, Runescape doesn't get the props it deserves.
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Underrated . . I would have to agree with PoTBS actully. . not because it is amazing. . but it is good and I enjoyed it when I played it yet it never gets spoken about.
Overrated: Any game 3 months before it launches.
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Any game is stretching it. Not to mention that I dislike PoTBS, just because I didn't feel so in-sync with the whole thing. I am so picky on my MMO's because they have to 'feel' a certain way, pretty damn strange.
On a side-note, I liked Lunia until it was handed over to ijji. I also love how Huxley is PC only.
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I'll vote for EVE as the most overrated MMORPG I've ever played, but that's probably only because I spend so much time on mmorpg.com. People tout what an amazingly deep sandbox experience it is, and I'm sure they're telling the truth, but game bored me to death. EVE seems like a game where the community makes or breaks the title, and without the community and all that goes along with it, the game mechanics just don't interest me. I'm also oblivious to the idea of having a space sim with a point and click movement system. I never felt connected to my avata...I mean ship, and more importantly, I never felt like I was actually in space. Every area in EVE that I saw was a wide open space with a space station and/or planet in the middle of it. Absolutely bored me to tears.
As for underrated, I'd probably say Vanguard: Saga of Heroes, Pirates of the Burning Sea, Everquest 2, Allods Online, and Rohan Online. All of these games have great content, and in the case of at least three out of the five games I've listed also have a relatively small population that could use a surplus of new players.
I'd have to agree with Runescape being the most underrated game out there. Alot of people play it, but alot of people (esp on MMO forums) think it's a bad game because of the graphics and the community. It's really a great game, with terrible graphics and an even worse community. I never really got very far into it personally, I can't stomach the controls or graphics, but from what I have played.... it's pretty in depth sandbox.
I can't think of what the most overrated game would be. WoW stands out and it does have it's flaws, but it's really not that terrible of a game compared to alot I've played. WoTLK in the beginning didn't really give enough to warrant the hype, but it wasn't bad. Maybe the nostalgic WoW TBC and WoW Vanilla players could count? TBC wasn't bad, but Vanilla was a pretty bad game. By far the most polished, but one of the worst games I had ever played when it launched. Vanilla was just so lacking in content and depth compared to all the other games I had played before it.
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Underrated: Tabula Rasa, SWG, AoC
Overrated: WoW, AION,
Public perception pretty much matches mine: EVE, Vanguard, LoTRO, CoX, others, EQ2
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Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO
Overrated: UO, EQ, SWG
Underrated: Can't think of any.
Most underrated – Ryzom. While I could criticize a few things about it, but they would be easily overlooked if it had the hype and population to make it what it could be. Brilliant AI systems. A huge living world. A skill-building system. Player created content. Complex crafting system.
Most overrated – Aion. I played for several months longer than I should have because I was bored of my other options. While I don't think it is a terrible game, it has hype that should be reserved for a true gem, not a half-hearted attempt. with huge flaws that spark of lazy or uncreative design.
The so called ‘classes’ in Aion should just be called ‘characters.’ While I love a more skill based game, I am perfectly happy with most class-based systems (e.g. CoX, AoC). Classes mean that there is a role to play - damage dealer, damage sponge, heal, support. Within that there are variations, options.
Look at almost any MMORPG’s wikis or fora and you will see thread after thread on builds. There are basically no build in Aion aside from maybe 1 weapon choice and one stigma choice. So there are roughly 16 characters you can play, but one stimage line is usually preferred. Bottom line, you have as much variation in play style and role in any given PUG in GW or COX than you have in a zone in Aion.
Aion promised flying combat and it doesn’t happen. Limited in zones and to a couple minutes without pots even in the Abyss. Fast-paced aerial combat is far superior in CoX, which never even seems to get the hype for it.
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Overrated: WoW, most any other mass marketed MMO.
Underrated: Most niche MMOs.
The industry and media are too easy to praise the overgeneralized MMOs, mainly because they have the most subs. That does not make them "good" games with respect to quality, simply popular. Niche MMOs on the other hand get largely ignored, despite the fact that some of them do particular things extremely well and make them very enjoyable. But that's the thing, they're niche, so they only appeal to certain players, however for those players, they are the most enjoyable choice, but are sadly usually overlooked because they're off the radar.
Under: Planetside, Ryzome, TCoS.
Over: EvE, LoTR
Special mention: VG at release most overrated, now most underrated. WoW for me extemely overrated but obviously for many just not so.
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Overrated: F2P Model (like Free Realms, DDO, Allods, etc), Big IP MMOs (like SWCWA, STO, not considering SWTOR because of its record budget)
Underrated: Indy MMOs (like Darkfall, ATID, EVE, yes, I said EVE).
Overrated: Any game where it is about the rush to an endgame of gear grind (99.99% of games).
Underrated: EVE, AO
Overunderrated: CoH
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