Alienware is way overpriced but its pretty damn solid right? The rig I proposed is the same price but only slightly better than a well upgraded aurora. But hey theres warrenty and it is factory overclocked...
While it seems the game will be more resource demanding than your average mmo, I don't think an average gaming pc will have trouble with this game under normal gameplay. During the fight scenes there's a lot of effects on screen and I think that's what dragging the fps down and not so much the characters on screen. My lowest fps at high rez was 20.
Alienware is way overpriced but its pretty damn solid right? The rig I proposed is the same price but only slightly better than a well upgraded aurora. But hey theres warrenty and it is factory overclocked...
/Or do you think it is totally useless?
While you definitely pay a premium, there's little actually wrong with Alienware's stuff. I've even seen some reports of them actually honoring their warranties and stuff, which is always nice to see. Historically, a lot of what they use in their desktops has been stuff you could buy and assemble yourself, were you so inclined. Although I wish they'd include the brands of some of thier components, particularly their memory, HDD's, and power supplies. But not everybody wants the hassle of building and maintaining their own computer (although I can't relate to that part myself). If you want to get one of their computers go ahead, but make sure you do some research on your own as well, rather than let their marketing slides convince you. If you're virtual-clienting heavily enough that you need 24GB fine, but that does seem just a little bit high, imo.
btw, SSL usually means Secure Socket Layer, which refers to the security encrption used when purchasing things online, but that doesn't have anything to do with your computer options. Or, if you meant SLI, see above post.
And the M15X laptop did exactly as good as it should have, I'd say, compared to everything else here so far. It's still just a laptop, and even the high-end laptop GPU's aren't as powerful as the desktop cards. Nvidia's 260M GPU /= 260 desktop GPU.
A Modest Proposal for MMORPGs: That the means of progression would not be mutually exclusive from the means of enjoyment.
I ran the benchmark 3 times and got 3 different scores ranging from 1200 to 1900. My system has over the recommended requirements for Crysis and can play any MMO on the market with no issues ( even TERA ) yet FFXIV ranged from unplayable to extremely low? If that's how it's going to be then square can take this game and shove it up their ***.
Agreed but it is still a high end laptop, no doubt very expensive. Sure alienware compared with the gaming scene is subpar but for that money I'd still expect it to run any game on high. As alienware itself said"
The Most Powerful 15" Gaming Laptop in the Universe
Alienware is way overpriced but its pretty damn solid right? The rig I proposed is the same price but only slightly better than a well upgraded aurora. But hey theres warrenty and it is factory overclocked...
/Or do you think it is totally useless?
While you definitely pay a premium, there's little actually wrong with Alienware's stuff. I've even seen some reports of them actually honoring their warranties and stuff, which is always nice to see. Historically, a lot of what they use in their desktops has been stuff you could buy and assemble yourself, were you so inclined. Although I wish they'd include the brands of some of thier components, particularly their memory, HDD's, and power supplies. But not everybody wants the hassle of building and maintaining their own computer (although I can't relate to that part myself). If you want to get one of their computers go ahead, but make sure you do some research on your own as well, rather than let their marketing slides convince you. If you're virtual-clienting heavily enough that you need 24GB fine, but that does seem just a little bit high, imo.
btw, SSL usually means Secure Socket Layer, which refers to the security encrption used when purchasing things online, but that doesn't have anything to do with your computer options. Or, if you meant SLI, see above post.
And the M15X laptop did exactly as good as it should have, I'd say, compared to everything else here so far. It's still just a laptop, and even the high-end laptop GPU's aren't as powerful as the desktop cards. Nvidia's 260M GPU /= 260 desktop GPU.
I recently purchased an Alienware Aurora and M15x. I had some issues with the laptop, but it was corrected immediately (had a bad videocard when shipped, replaced within 2 days). Yes, you do pay a lot more than what you would if you purchased the parts and assembled your own rig, but there is a benefit of convienience of just opening a box and getting to gaming (WoW and Steam came preinstalled on my system).
I'm happy with both of my purchases, and I haven't had an issue running whatever game I wanted on either system.
Read a lot about the benchmark on different forums... and it seems that the game is BOTH GPU and CPU dependent.
The benchmark doesn't consider SLI or CF configurations.
The benchmark favors quad core processors over duel/triple core, regardless of your GPU. The CPU will cap your score on low or high settings.
The benchmark favors ATI over Nvidia.
Pretty obvious from looking at everyone's responses, but it's safe to say the benchmark is not an accurate measurement of how the game will perform.
Best bet is to try to get into Beta and see how your rig hold's up, and if you have to upgrade, wait till December, or play on the PS3 (if it gets too expensive).
As for me, i'm getting 2400 Hi Res using 4890. If I can get 4k+ by getting a 5850.. i'll do it, but if I have to get a Quad Core processor AND a new GPU... that's too rich for my blood. Most likely twice the cost of getting a PS3.
If my CPU (AMD Phenom II x3 710) capped my benchmark score at 3800 (low res), does that mean even if I get a better GPU, the high res won't go higher than 3800?
Do I have to upgrade BOTH my GPU and CPU to get a score of 4k+ on high res?
I was thinking of 5850 from a 4890. But if that alone is < 4000 benchmark, I don't know if it's worth it.
Read a lot about the benchmark on different forums... and it seems that the game is BOTH GPU and CPU dependent.
The benchmark doesn't consider SLI or CF configurations.
The benchmark favors quad core processors over duel/triple core, regardless of your GPU. The CPU will cap your score on low or high settings.
The benchmark favors ATI over Nvidia
Actually, someone conducted a comparison on a specific forum about this thing, and the result is that the benchmark doesn't favor ATI at all.
Source?
Oooh I gotta stir the pot ever more on this one...
Nothing runs best on ATi, when was the last time you saw a "Runs best on ATi" slogan on any game, like nVidia has on just about everything...its a given...rofl
Having trouble. On my old desktop it runs with a decent score. On my new laptop I get "Data Corrupted. Unable to run application". Tried redownloading it and same result. Any ideas how to fix or diagnose this?
edit: downloaded winrar and now im getting past that point but it still is crashing soon after the race selection screen.
Nice test, was wondering why my score of 4880 was alot lower than yours, so the demo at least is very CPU dependant. I only run my 920 at stock speeds, so I guess if the game stays the same, its time to release some of its power.
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I wouldn't be so sure, just found this little bit of info in a Dengeki Interview:
What will the recommended specifications for the finished Windows version be?
Tanaka: First we will announce specs for beta. Right now graphics boards, as opposed to CPUs, are causing bottlenecking, so we would like to optimize that more.
So it appears that GPUs are not entirely optimized yet thus why many of us are recieving such low scores. Hopefully SE plans to release an updated Benchmark then.
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SSL? u meant SLI?
it's Scalable Link Interface, it's the name method given to a 2 Nvidia Graphic cards combined together
oh and just a thought
even for multiclienting, i dont think a 24gb Ram is needed
if i were you i would cut down the cost as others said to just 6gb Ram
and spend it on other hardwares, eg Monitor or go for 2 gpu
btw, my M15X scored just a little over 2600
playable, but meh, i think the benchmark doesnt neccesarilly will be 100% accurate
So What Now?
dude ALIENWARE's comp flopped the test? WTF?!!!
And allright maybe ill cut down to 12gb ram.
And I will get 2 480s combined together. These stuff are cheap(er) where I live due to conversion rate.
Alienware is just a highly overpriced namebrand, mostly consisting of junk! You can build your own PC for far cheaper and much much better!
Alienware is way overpriced but its pretty damn solid right? The rig I proposed is the same price but only slightly better than a well upgraded aurora. But hey theres warrenty and it is factory overclocked...
/Or do you think it is totally useless?
Core i7 920, ati hd4850
1280X720: 3502
1920X1080: 1860
While it seems the game will be more resource demanding than your average mmo, I don't think an average gaming pc will have trouble with this game under normal gameplay. During the fight scenes there's a lot of effects on screen and I think that's what dragging the fps down and not so much the characters on screen. My lowest fps at high rez was 20.
While you definitely pay a premium, there's little actually wrong with Alienware's stuff. I've even seen some reports of them actually honoring their warranties and stuff, which is always nice to see. Historically, a lot of what they use in their desktops has been stuff you could buy and assemble yourself, were you so inclined. Although I wish they'd include the brands of some of thier components, particularly their memory, HDD's, and power supplies. But not everybody wants the hassle of building and maintaining their own computer (although I can't relate to that part myself). If you want to get one of their computers go ahead, but make sure you do some research on your own as well, rather than let their marketing slides convince you. If you're virtual-clienting heavily enough that you need 24GB fine, but that does seem just a little bit high, imo.
btw, SSL usually means Secure Socket Layer, which refers to the security encrption used when purchasing things online, but that doesn't have anything to do with your computer options. Or, if you meant SLI, see above post.
And the M15X laptop did exactly as good as it should have, I'd say, compared to everything else here so far. It's still just a laptop, and even the high-end laptop GPU's aren't as powerful as the desktop cards. Nvidia's 260M GPU /= 260 desktop GPU.
A Modest Proposal for MMORPGs:
That the means of progression would not be mutually exclusive from the means of enjoyment.
i dont believe that the score of the benchmark is what the outcome is gonna be
it's just numbers
im pretty sure under normal gameplay it will just play as good as how your pc can handle Crysis
because i believe that any computer that runs Crysis well will run FFXIV just fine
So What Now?
I ran the benchmark 3 times and got 3 different scores ranging from 1200 to 1900. My system has over the recommended requirements for Crysis and can play any MMO on the market with no issues ( even TERA ) yet FFXIV ranged from unplayable to extremely low? If that's how it's going to be then square can take this game and shove it up their ***.
Agreed but it is still a high end laptop, no doubt very expensive. Sure alienware compared with the gaming scene is subpar but for that money I'd still expect it to run any game on high. As alienware itself said"
The Most Powerful 15" Gaming Laptop in the Universe
System: i7 920 @ 3.2GHz, GTX280 @680Mhz core clock, 6GB DDR3
First run, with 196.21 drivers
Low - 4846, High - 2895
Second run, with 257.21 drivers
Low - 4719, High - 2838
Third run, GPU clocked up to 724Mhz core clock
Low - 5029, High - 3015
Doesn't look like the drivers matter hugely (yet), but even a mild GPU bump seemed to help.
A Modest Proposal for MMORPGs:
That the means of progression would not be mutually exclusive from the means of enjoyment.
I recently purchased an Alienware Aurora and M15x. I had some issues with the laptop, but it was corrected immediately (had a bad videocard when shipped, replaced within 2 days). Yes, you do pay a lot more than what you would if you purchased the parts and assembled your own rig, but there is a benefit of convienience of just opening a box and getting to gaming (WoW and Steam came preinstalled on my system).
I'm happy with both of my purchases, and I haven't had an issue running whatever game I wanted on either system.
2398 on Hi Res....
My Rig:
AMD Phenom II X3 710 Processor (2.6 GHz) (triple core)
8 GB Kingston HyperX @ 1066
Ati Radeon 4890 (1gb)
1 Terabit Hardrive
Windows 7 (64 bit)
Can someone pleaes guesstimate how much my Hi-Res score will increase if I upgarde to a 5850 or 5870 from my current 4890?
Any opinions well appreciated....
Did youst try this benchmark on my comp.
High : 5001
My spec is :
i7 920 @ 4200Mhz (HT off)
3*2GB DDR3 1600Mhz CL 7
Sapphire 5870 Vappor-X@ stock
HDD : Intel X25-M G2
http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/6269/ffxivtest.jpg
Tested on my Notebook
Low Res - 2282
Load Time - 18133ms
Specs:
CPU: Intel Dual Core P7350 @ 2.3 GHz
GPU: nVIDIA GeForce GTX 260M
How are you other notebook users looking?
Read a lot about the benchmark on different forums... and it seems that the game is BOTH GPU and CPU dependent.
The benchmark doesn't consider SLI or CF configurations.
The benchmark favors quad core processors over duel/triple core, regardless of your GPU. The CPU will cap your score on low or high settings.
The benchmark favors ATI over Nvidia.
Pretty obvious from looking at everyone's responses, but it's safe to say the benchmark is not an accurate measurement of how the game will perform.
Best bet is to try to get into Beta and see how your rig hold's up, and if you have to upgrade, wait till December, or play on the PS3 (if it gets too expensive).
As for me, i'm getting 2400 Hi Res using 4890. If I can get 4k+ by getting a 5850.. i'll do it, but if I have to get a Quad Core processor AND a new GPU... that's too rich for my blood. Most likely twice the cost of getting a PS3.
Actually, someone conducted a comparison on a specific forum about this thing, and the result is that the benchmark doesn't favor ATI at all.
GPU memory also has a big impact and not just clock speeds.
The CPU will cap your score on low settings, but on higher settings the GPU is what will make the most difference.
This is the data collected by analyzing the test results.
Hyanmen,
If my CPU (AMD Phenom II x3 710) capped my benchmark score at 3800 (low res), does that mean even if I get a better GPU, the high res won't go higher than 3800?
Do I have to upgrade BOTH my GPU and CPU to get a score of 4k+ on high res?
I was thinking of 5850 from a 4890. But if that alone is < 4000 benchmark, I don't know if it's worth it.
http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94743
Read the first post, it's pretty informative.
Spec:
Windows 7 EVGA
GeForce GTX295 (OC)
i7 920 2.6GHZ (OC)
6GB DDR3 Corsair 'Dominator' Kit
I lol'd
Did some more testing, with the GFX at stock speed (it is stock OC'd to GPU@900 and mem@1300).
Here i did bump up my CPU to 4567Mhz and i did gain almost 5%. High res = 5229
http://img94.imageshack.us/img94/9027/ffxivtest2.jpg
And here i did pull it back to 3200Mhz and did't lose that much. High res = 4979
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/6514/ffxivtest3.jpg
Source?
Oooh I gotta stir the pot ever more on this one...
Nothing runs best on ATi, when was the last time you saw a "Runs best on ATi" slogan on any game, like nVidia has on just about everything...its a given...rofl
Having trouble. On my old desktop it runs with a decent score. On my new laptop I get "Data Corrupted. Unable to run application". Tried redownloading it and same result. Any ideas how to fix or diagnose this?
edit: downloaded winrar and now im getting past that point but it still is crashing soon after the race selection screen.
Nice test, was wondering why my score of 4880 was alot lower than yours, so the demo at least is very CPU dependant. I only run my 920 at stock speeds, so I guess if the game stays the same, its time to release some of its power.
Core i5 13600KF, BeQuiet Pure Loop FX 360, 32gb DDR5-6000 XPG, WD SN850 NVMe ,PNY 3090 XLR8, Asus Prime Z790-A, Lian-Li O11 PCMR case (limited ed 1045/2000), 32" LG Ultragear 4k Monitor, Logitech G560 LightSync Sound, Razer Deathadder V2 and Razer Blackwidow V3 Keyboard
I wouldn't be so sure, just found this little bit of info in a Dengeki Interview:
What will the recommended specifications for the finished Windows version be?
Tanaka: First we will announce specs for beta. Right now graphics boards, as opposed to CPUs, are causing bottlenecking, so we would like to optimize that more.
So it appears that GPUs are not entirely optimized yet thus why many of us are recieving such low scores. Hopefully SE plans to release an updated Benchmark then.