I guess noone remembers the time before the Guild Wars release Arena Net went to E3 and brought some dance/music group to play on a stage while showing the game. The "E3 police" came by and told them to turn it down or they will get fined with a ticket. Apparently this group was very expensive to bring out so they kept the volume up. The "E3 police" came buy again and slapped ANet with a fine. Someone from Arena Net tore the ticket up right there.
On another note E3 is a joke. There is no reason to go unless you're a big console developer, or showing off new technology/hardware for one of the 3 consoles. Real gaming died along time ago with E3. It's all about console simulators that let you feed virtual cows and calling it "innovation" or "revolutionary".
Piss on E3. That show stopped being about the fans years ago, its now all for the big game companies to pat each other on the back & smoke expensive cigars. All the while showing off to the media what 'brilliant' new technology they've come up with. Anet made the correct choice in not wasting its money.
On a slightly dissimilar note, I remember the incident with the music group & the E3 rent-a-pigs. A fairly ridiculous situation overall, and further proof that it is indeed for the suits.
Um ArenaNet released a whole article stating 1) that they weren't going to E3 and 2) Why they weren't going to E3... this was well before E3 started.. if you've been keeping up on the info you wouldn't be surprised.
They said if it was open to the public they would def go but it's not and they want to be able to excite the fans first hand. Makes sense to me. Plus they said they'd release more info in the coming weeks. I rather have it straight from them than reading about it on some internet news site.
If you are ever going to be one of the top 5 developers in the mmo industry then you need to go to E3. Why ? Because that is where everyone is! E3 is pretty much your passage way into getting media attention. Ok so many of the gamers will not play the GW2 demo at E3 but everyone gets to see it. ArenaNet you can swear up and down you are going to the other shows for the fans but tell me how do you sell 5 million copies GW and only cater to West Coast/Europe because it is much cheaper for you to go there. You say it is for the fans but if it was really for the fans then maybe you and NCsoft should have your own Conference and invite your own fans there just like Blizzard does. This was a huge blow to your GW2 marketing and once again it proves your marketing strategy is completely backwards. Maybe next time you release a new game you can tell NCsoft to leave their rock band image at home next time.You just blew a ton of media coverage for your brand new mmo. Awesome job guys.
Bahh old man thinking, no offesne but really. YOU NO LONGER NEED TO GO TO GAME SHOWS, its the year 2010 and there is this magic force called the internet. If your game has any noterity then you can press release to the many gaming sites and its like e3 but better, becuase MORE people see the contents of the releases.
All you have to do for media converage these day is send a electron it corispondence or an exclusive video and bam coverage.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
I respect their reasons for not going to E3. Really they should have at least one day for the fans, I mean we are their bread and butter. Plus, there will be more to see from them very soon anyway.
Read this and you'll learn far more information about the game than they'd ever be able to release at E3.
They dislike the way E3 has gone. Remember that years ago they did the E3-For-Everyone event with Guild Wars 1 in which fans at the stage floor and everyone in the world could play the game, a concept of demonstration that is rarely seen anymore, especially with paid betas and things like that being the norm. I fell in love with the game at that day.
Why do you think everyone else goes to E3 except Blizzard because Blizzard don't need E3 anymore. ArenaNet is not as big as Blizzard and needs every opportunity to show their fans the game. It really isn't hard to understand that but I know how the iron clad defense goes up when someone makes a valid point. They said they are doing it for the fans but compared to how many boxes of GW they sold there will only be a small handful that actually go just to see GW2 in the shows they are attending and that is genrally assuming people are going to those shows just to see GW2 specifially. If they really want to do it for the fans then they need their own conference and invite their fans to come.
Bioware goes to E3 because they know it is the gateway to a ton of media coverage that you don't pass up. Everyone else goes to E3 because of the same reason. ID Software which is making Rage for the pc and console is not even releasing this year but they go anyway. Why ? Because they want everyone to see their game. Shunning E3 is like kicking the media in the shins and then expecting them to promote your game after the fact. Big mistake.
Read this and you'll learn far more information about the game than they'd ever be able to release at E3.
They dislike the way E3 has gone. Remember that years ago they did the E3-For-Everyone event with Guild Wars 1 in which fans at the stage floor and everyone in the world could play the game, a concept of demonstration that is rarely seen anymore, especially with paid betas and things like that being the norm. I fell in love with the game at that day.
Just more excuses not to spend some money to advertise and for the simply fact NCsoft was tossed out because they thought they were at a rock concert.
I don't know why everyone keeps saying E3 is not for the fans. I have been watching tons of video coverage (including all of the pres conferences), reading the constant stream of articles (including screenshots, etc) being generated by E3. I love when E3 comes around.
Just because I can't be there in person doesn't mean I don't benefit from it. Even if it was open to fans, it's not like i could take off work, spends lots of money, and leave my wife with the kids for a week to go play video games.
As much as I would like to learn more about GW2, I can't fault them for not being there. I'm sure it's expensive and time consuming. It's fine with me if they concentrate on development for now.
Why do you think everyone else goes to E3 except Blizzard because Blizzard don't need E3 anymore. ArenaNet is not as big as Blizzard and needs every opportunity to show their fans the game. It really isn't hard to understand that but I know how the iron clad defense goes up when someone makes a valid point. They said they are doing it for the fans but compared to how many boxes of GW they sold there will only be a small handful that actually go just to see GW2 in the shows they are attending and that is genrally assuming people are going to those shows just to see GW2 specifially. If they really want to do it for the fans then they need their own conference and invite their fans to come.
Bioware goes to E3 because they know it is the gateway to a ton of media coverage that you don't pass up. Everyone else goes to E3 because of the same reason. ID Software which is making Rage for the pc and console is not even releasing this year but they go anyway. Why ? Because they want everyone to see their game. Shunning E3 is like kicking the media in the shins and then expecting them to promote your game after the fact. Big mistake.
So so so wrong. Blizzard doesnt go to E3 because they hey.........BLIZZCON.
Bioware goes to E3 because...........THEY MAKE CONSOLE GAMES TO.
E3 costs a sh!tload of money to go to for developers. And honestly, all that happens is people release videos of game play and we go watch it on Gametrailers.com
Then they do some interviews etc. What is so different from them just posting the vid to Gametrailers without the E3 hoopla? Then they do all the interviews which we see here on MMORPG.com anyway. All the E3 info related to PC MMO's, comes here to MMORPG and MASSIVELY.com within hours anyway.
There is no need to spend all the money to go to E3 if you do not have a console developed.
E3 is for Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo to wave their balls around, not for mainly individual PC MMO devs.
Why do you think everyone else goes to E3 except Blizzard because Blizzard don't need E3 anymore. ArenaNet is not as big as Blizzard and needs every opportunity to show their fans the game. It really isn't hard to understand that but I know how the iron clad defense goes up when someone makes a valid point. They said they are doing it for the fans but compared to how many boxes of GW they sold there will only be a small handful that actually go just to see GW2 in the shows they are attending and that is genrally assuming people are going to those shows just to see GW2 specifially. If they really want to do it for the fans then they need their own conference and invite their fans to come.
Bioware goes to E3 because they know it is the gateway to a ton of media coverage that you don't pass up. Everyone else goes to E3 because of the same reason. ID Software which is making Rage for the pc and console is not even releasing this year but they go anyway. Why ? Because they want everyone to see their game. Shunning E3 is like kicking the media in the shins and then expecting them to promote your game after the fact. Big mistake.
So so so wrong. Blizzard doesnt go to E3 because they hey.........BLIZZCON.
Bioware goes to E3 because...........THEY MAKE CONSOLE GAMES TO.
E3 costs a sh!tload of money to go to for developers. And honestly, all that happens is people release videos of game play and we go watch it on Gametrailers.com
Then they do some interviews etc. What is so different from them just posting the vid to Gametrailers without the E3 hoopla? Then they do all the interviews which we see here on MMORPG.com anyway. All the E3 info related to PC MMO's, comes here to MMORPG and MASSIVELY.com within hours anyway.
There is no need to spend all the money to go to E3 if you do not have a console developed.
E3 is for Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo to wave their balls around, not for mainly individual PC MMO devs.
Really ? Ask Runic Games about Torchlight and what E3 did for them by making a very good game and getting all that media coverage. E3 has done wonders for them and they did not have a console game at that time.
I could see them going if Guild Wars was a brand new IP and they needed exposure but it's not. Besides they would get rolled over in the news by whatever new dildo look a like toy some console company announced. I'd much rather ANet do a media blitz when the E3 storm dies down.
To me op just wanted for a game he is a fan of to be present at a gameshow. Nothing wrong with that, fact that he thinks it was a wrong choice is his opp. One I agree with just cause I would have liked to see more info, and I don't care about them playing up fan based choices, no matter what you think about a company, they will always do whats best for the company/product.
Anyways, I as a customer/gaming fan have been soaking up the others who are showing thier stuff at E3 and enjoying it, but it doesn't stop me from being curious of this game either, but I'm deff not proud of them or anyone else for not going.
To me op just wanted for a game he is a fan of to be present at a gameshow. Nothing wrong with that, fact that he thinks it was a wrong choice is his opp. One I agree with just cause I would have liked to see more info, and I don't care about them playing up fan based choices, no matter what you think about a company, they will always do whats best for the company/product.
Anyways, I as a customer/gaming fan have been soaking up the others who are showing thier stuff at E3 and enjoying it, but it doesn't stop me from being curious of this game either, but I'm deff not proud of them or anyone else for not going.
Being at E3 wouldnt help Arenanet at all. They get loads of coverage in the MMO press already, everytime they release some new information about GW2.
Personally I dont like to see companies that have nothing new to show at these shows. Without a hands on demo, Im not interested anyway. Trailers or screens can be downloaded
OMFG!!! It's that hard for OP to understand that going to E3 is not worth, its not an option for ArenaNet!?!?1
"Mehmehmeh i want more infos u guys are gay for disagreeing with meh" ORLY? Everybody wants more info, everyone hyped by GW2 wants it to launch tomorrow, but thats not how it works. The cost x benefit rate of E3 is not that good for a medium unknown developer (even though GW is a bit known), there are HIGH chances of being overshadowed by consoles or big companies and its damn too expansive, and they don't even have a hands-on demo!
Or do u think having just 1 F2P game of success (success = not bankrupting) is a big thing? Of course if they had endless money it would be stupid not to go to E3, but thats not the case here. U mentioned Torchlight and Runic Games, but i only heard about it a few weeks ago when searching for Diablo 3, so I guess ur hypothesis is wrong, just compare this case with the new Zelda, Castlevania and 3DS everyfuckinbody knows about. In the long run the game came out of the dark, but it would be the same thing if they just attended PAX for much less costs.
Or do u want them to move all their budget from game developing to marketing? Don't answer it, I'm afraid u'll pick the wrong alternative...
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There is quite simple reason Arenanet does not go to E3. It is a closed event. Arenanet is and always will be a company for its fanbase.
Their fans can't go to E3 so they do not attend and haven't since E3 became a closed event. They haven't attended since 2006 and won't attend until its a public event.
E3 is hype driven circle jerk. Arenanet are a developer the keeps the fans interest 1st and foremost in their path
There is quite simple reason Arenanet does not go to E3. It is a closed event. Arenanet is and always will be a company for its fanbase.
Their fans can't go to E3 so they do not attend and haven't since E3 became a closed event. They haven't attended since 2006 and won't attend until its a public event.
E3 is hype driven circle jerk. Arenanet are a developer the keeps the fans interest 1st and foremost in their path
A company for their fanbase? That's kinda crappy actually. At the moment I'm not a fan but I may or may not be with GW2. Doesn't this company want to expand the fanbase with new blood? There are a lot of players out there that Arena may win over. Only their existing fanbase and that's it?
Yes I am sure they want to expand with new blood but what purpose is there to be served attending a closed conference for industry types to attend. There is no fanbase to be had there...
If its advertising that will do it I think they are doing a good enough job of that with all the teasers. Look at the hyoe level of this game. Its a pretty safe bet this game is going to be stupendously successful at launch.
Again Arenanet has always tried to set themselves apart from the rest. Guild Wars was something new and different. It didn't follow the conventional model. Guild Wars 2 is another unconventional leap.
Arenanet will go to the public events GDC, Comicon and PAX. These are open public events. They will be far more successful attracting new blood there as this is where the new blood will be and much more of it. E3 is a waste of resources that would be better spent on the game or the fans.
Yeah, they focus on the Console games. PC is a second thought at E3.
while I do agree with you overall I just have to point out that Star wars the old republic was pretty much the most talked about game at e3.
"We have barred the gates, but can not hold them for long... They have taken the Bridge and the Second Hall... We can not get out. The end comes. Drums, drums in the deep. They are coming..."
There is no reason for them to attend E3. They already have connection with a lot of the video game media. Everything you see at E3 ends up on the same sites where we keep getting interviews from arena net. They get full coverage by all the gaming websites when they post a new video or article. I see tons of interviews from multiple websites on arena net. E3 has faded it has no purpose when it is closed to the public. The Internet offers far more coverage for way cheaper. the only reason to go to a show is to show off the game to fans and let them try it. If fans aren't able to try the game their is no reason to go to a show. If Arena net had posted info when E3 was going on you wouldn't even have noticed them not being there. They would have still gotten the same coverage as every other game that did attend E3. You are just mad because you didn't get an update of new info. People who think E3 still means something need to wake up. The Internet Media replaced E3 a long time ago by just going directly to developers. PC developers stay connected with a lot of media it is the console market that keeps everything underground until E3.
Despite what the OP thinks, revealing small amounts of info on the game in intervals and not going to one of the biggest conventions for gaming companies is a huge way to make everyone think "wtf?" and just hype the game up even more. If they were unknown with a new title however this would go horribly for them, but since GW is such a widely known game this strategy will probably bring them millions more players simply because ANet intelligently chooses not to show all of their cards at once. I don't know about anyone else but I wish I could go to the upcoming PAX event but since I can't it makes me want to buy the game even more just so I can satisfy my curiosity.
ArenaNet made the right choice, they've been releasing so much info in interviews and previews, there is obviously not much left to make E3 worth it. Waiting and saving up some info / playable demo for PAX(wasn't it?) Is a good idea, where they can get more floorspace and get the info out to more fans.
Going to E3 for just 1 game is very risky.
About the torchlight quote, I had no idea about it until it was on sale on steam, so it's obviously not having a huge impact at the grass-roots level.
@Edli , fanbase means future fans too, don't try to twist their words. But even if what you said was true, making the game for people that aren't going to play it ? That's kinda counterproductive. It's not like they are hiding the features, you'll have time to realise if you area a fan or not way before release ^_^
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I guess noone remembers the time before the Guild Wars release Arena Net went to E3 and brought some dance/music group to play on a stage while showing the game. The "E3 police" came by and told them to turn it down or they will get fined with a ticket. Apparently this group was very expensive to bring out so they kept the volume up. The "E3 police" came buy again and slapped ANet with a fine. Someone from Arena Net tore the ticket up right there.
On another note E3 is a joke. There is no reason to go unless you're a big console developer, or showing off new technology/hardware for one of the 3 consoles. Real gaming died along time ago with E3. It's all about console simulators that let you feed virtual cows and calling it "innovation" or "revolutionary".
Real gamers and gaming companys go to PAX now.
Piss on E3. That show stopped being about the fans years ago, its now all for the big game companies to pat each other on the back & smoke expensive cigars. All the while showing off to the media what 'brilliant' new technology they've come up with. Anet made the correct choice in not wasting its money.
On a slightly dissimilar note, I remember the incident with the music group & the E3 rent-a-pigs. A fairly ridiculous situation overall, and further proof that it is indeed for the suits.
So this same nut is here too. I think he/she must work for E3.
Um ArenaNet released a whole article stating 1) that they weren't going to E3 and 2) Why they weren't going to E3... this was well before E3 started.. if you've been keeping up on the info you wouldn't be surprised.
They said if it was open to the public they would def go but it's not and they want to be able to excite the fans first hand. Makes sense to me. Plus they said they'd release more info in the coming weeks. I rather have it straight from them than reading about it on some internet news site.
Bahh old man thinking, no offesne but really. YOU NO LONGER NEED TO GO TO GAME SHOWS, its the year 2010 and there is this magic force called the internet. If your game has any noterity then you can press release to the many gaming sites and its like e3 but better, becuase MORE people see the contents of the releases.
All you have to do for media converage these day is send a electron it corispondence or an exclusive video and bam coverage.
"Society in every state is a blessing, but government even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one ..." - Thomas Paine
I respect their reasons for not going to E3. Really they should have at least one day for the fans, I mean we are their bread and butter. Plus, there will be more to see from them very soon anyway.
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Read this and you'll learn far more information about the game than they'd ever be able to release at E3.
They dislike the way E3 has gone. Remember that years ago they did the E3-For-Everyone event with Guild Wars 1 in which fans at the stage floor and everyone in the world could play the game, a concept of demonstration that is rarely seen anymore, especially with paid betas and things like that being the norm. I fell in love with the game at that day.
Why do you think everyone else goes to E3 except Blizzard because Blizzard don't need E3 anymore. ArenaNet is not as big as Blizzard and needs every opportunity to show their fans the game. It really isn't hard to understand that but I know how the iron clad defense goes up when someone makes a valid point. They said they are doing it for the fans but compared to how many boxes of GW they sold there will only be a small handful that actually go just to see GW2 in the shows they are attending and that is genrally assuming people are going to those shows just to see GW2 specifially. If they really want to do it for the fans then they need their own conference and invite their fans to come.
Bioware goes to E3 because they know it is the gateway to a ton of media coverage that you don't pass up. Everyone else goes to E3 because of the same reason. ID Software which is making Rage for the pc and console is not even releasing this year but they go anyway. Why ? Because they want everyone to see their game. Shunning E3 is like kicking the media in the shins and then expecting them to promote your game after the fact. Big mistake.
Just more excuses not to spend some money to advertise and for the simply fact NCsoft was tossed out because they thought they were at a rock concert.
I guess we will all have to agree to disagree on your point here, SV.
I don't know why everyone keeps saying E3 is not for the fans. I have been watching tons of video coverage (including all of the pres conferences), reading the constant stream of articles (including screenshots, etc) being generated by E3. I love when E3 comes around.
Just because I can't be there in person doesn't mean I don't benefit from it. Even if it was open to fans, it's not like i could take off work, spends lots of money, and leave my wife with the kids for a week to go play video games.
As much as I would like to learn more about GW2, I can't fault them for not being there. I'm sure it's expensive and time consuming. It's fine with me if they concentrate on development for now.
The game will be successful either way I think.
So so so wrong. Blizzard doesnt go to E3 because they hey.........BLIZZCON.
Bioware goes to E3 because...........THEY MAKE CONSOLE GAMES TO.
E3 costs a sh!tload of money to go to for developers. And honestly, all that happens is people release videos of game play and we go watch it on Gametrailers.com
Then they do some interviews etc. What is so different from them just posting the vid to Gametrailers without the E3 hoopla? Then they do all the interviews which we see here on MMORPG.com anyway. All the E3 info related to PC MMO's, comes here to MMORPG and MASSIVELY.com within hours anyway.
There is no need to spend all the money to go to E3 if you do not have a console developed.
E3 is for Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo to wave their balls around, not for mainly individual PC MMO devs.
Really ? Ask Runic Games about Torchlight and what E3 did for them by making a very good game and getting all that media coverage. E3 has done wonders for them and they did not have a console game at that time.
I could see them going if Guild Wars was a brand new IP and they needed exposure but it's not. Besides they would get rolled over in the news by whatever new dildo look a like toy some console company announced. I'd much rather ANet do a media blitz when the E3 storm dies down.
To me op just wanted for a game he is a fan of to be present at a gameshow. Nothing wrong with that, fact that he thinks it was a wrong choice is his opp. One I agree with just cause I would have liked to see more info, and I don't care about them playing up fan based choices, no matter what you think about a company, they will always do whats best for the company/product.
Anyways, I as a customer/gaming fan have been soaking up the others who are showing thier stuff at E3 and enjoying it, but it doesn't stop me from being curious of this game either, but I'm deff not proud of them or anyone else for not going.
Exactly Asleep!
Being at E3 wouldnt help Arenanet at all. They get loads of coverage in the MMO press already, everytime they release some new information about GW2.
Personally I dont like to see companies that have nothing new to show at these shows. Without a hands on demo, Im not interested anyway. Trailers or screens can be downloaded
OMFG!!! It's that hard for OP to understand that going to E3 is not worth, its not an option for ArenaNet!?!?1
"Mehmehmeh i want more infos u guys are gay for disagreeing with meh" ORLY? Everybody wants more info, everyone hyped by GW2 wants it to launch tomorrow, but thats not how it works. The cost x benefit rate of E3 is not that good for a medium unknown developer (even though GW is a bit known), there are HIGH chances of being overshadowed by consoles or big companies and its damn too expansive, and they don't even have a hands-on demo!
Or do u think having just 1 F2P game of success (success = not bankrupting) is a big thing? Of course if they had endless money it would be stupid not to go to E3, but thats not the case here. U mentioned Torchlight and Runic Games, but i only heard about it a few weeks ago when searching for Diablo 3, so I guess ur hypothesis is wrong, just compare this case with the new Zelda, Castlevania and 3DS everyfuckinbody knows about. In the long run the game came out of the dark, but it would be the same thing if they just attended PAX for much less costs.
Or do u want them to move all their budget from game developing to marketing? Don't answer it, I'm afraid u'll pick the wrong alternative...
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Played: Tibia, Ragnarok Online, Ultima Online, Guild Wars, World of Warcraft.
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There is quite simple reason Arenanet does not go to E3. It is a closed event. Arenanet is and always will be a company for its fanbase.
Their fans can't go to E3 so they do not attend and haven't since E3 became a closed event. They haven't attended since 2006 and won't attend until its a public event.
E3 is hype driven circle jerk. Arenanet are a developer the keeps the fans interest 1st and foremost in their path
A company for their fanbase? That's kinda crappy actually. At the moment I'm not a fan but I may or may not be with GW2. Doesn't this company want to expand the fanbase with new blood? There are a lot of players out there that Arena may win over. Only their existing fanbase and that's it?
Yes I am sure they want to expand with new blood but what purpose is there to be served attending a closed conference for industry types to attend. There is no fanbase to be had there...
If its advertising that will do it I think they are doing a good enough job of that with all the teasers. Look at the hyoe level of this game. Its a pretty safe bet this game is going to be stupendously successful at launch.
Again Arenanet has always tried to set themselves apart from the rest. Guild Wars was something new and different. It didn't follow the conventional model. Guild Wars 2 is another unconventional leap.
Arenanet will go to the public events GDC, Comicon and PAX. These are open public events. They will be far more successful attracting new blood there as this is where the new blood will be and much more of it. E3 is a waste of resources that would be better spent on the game or the fans.
while I do agree with you overall I just have to point out that Star wars the old republic was pretty much the most talked about game at e3.
"We have barred the gates, but can not hold them for long...
They have taken the Bridge and the Second Hall...
We can not get out. The end comes.
Drums, drums in the deep. They are coming..."
I can't believe you can't comprehend this.
There is no reason for them to attend E3. They already have connection with a lot of the video game media. Everything you see at E3 ends up on the same sites where we keep getting interviews from arena net. They get full coverage by all the gaming websites when they post a new video or article. I see tons of interviews from multiple websites on arena net. E3 has faded it has no purpose when it is closed to the public. The Internet offers far more coverage for way cheaper. the only reason to go to a show is to show off the game to fans and let them try it. If fans aren't able to try the game their is no reason to go to a show. If Arena net had posted info when E3 was going on you wouldn't even have noticed them not being there. They would have still gotten the same coverage as every other game that did attend E3. You are just mad because you didn't get an update of new info. People who think E3 still means something need to wake up. The Internet Media replaced E3 a long time ago by just going directly to developers. PC developers stay connected with a lot of media it is the console market that keeps everything underground until E3.
Despite what the OP thinks, revealing small amounts of info on the game in intervals and not going to one of the biggest conventions for gaming companies is a huge way to make everyone think "wtf?" and just hype the game up even more. If they were unknown with a new title however this would go horribly for them, but since GW is such a widely known game this strategy will probably bring them millions more players simply because ANet intelligently chooses not to show all of their cards at once. I don't know about anyone else but I wish I could go to the upcoming PAX event but since I can't it makes me want to buy the game even more just so I can satisfy my curiosity.
ArenaNet made the right choice, they've been releasing so much info in interviews and previews, there is obviously not much left to make E3 worth it. Waiting and saving up some info / playable demo for PAX(wasn't it?) Is a good idea, where they can get more floorspace and get the info out to more fans.
Going to E3 for just 1 game is very risky.
About the torchlight quote, I had no idea about it until it was on sale on steam, so it's obviously not having a huge impact at the grass-roots level.
@Edli , fanbase means future fans too, don't try to twist their words. But even if what you said was true, making the game for people that aren't going to play it ? That's kinda counterproductive. It's not like they are hiding the features, you'll have time to realise if you area a fan or not way before release ^_^
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