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Which $100 Video Card?

GuotieGuotie Member Posts: 14

Going into a Gigabyte P35-DS3p with a 450w power supply.
http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2747#sp


Nvidia 9800 GT or GTX
Nvidia GT 240 or GTS 250
ATI HD 5570 or 5670 or 5750 or 5770

 


 


All of these are available for about $100 and I don't know what to go with.


I don't know which card has how many stream processors and all that. All I can compare is the Memory, but I don't think over 512mb even matters. The clock speed and memory speeds. One card will have a fast core, but the other will have a much higher memory speed. Compare a GTS 250 (738/2000) to a HD 5670 (775/1000) for instance.


 


 


 


then i've got these charts




 


makes me think i want a GTS 250


  • Core Clock: 738MHz

  • Stream Processors: 128

  • Effective Memory Clock: 2200MHz

anywhere from $75-$125 at Newegg


 


 




 


Comments

  • viddsterviddster Member UncommonPosts: 220

    For $100 your best bet in most cases is the Nvidia GTS 250 or the ATI HD 4850. If you want a little more power, for $120 you can get an ATI HD 5750, which is a good bit faster.

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  • GuotieGuotie Member Posts: 14

    Galaxy 25SFF6HX1RUI GeForce GTS 250 512MB 256-bit DDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card



    * GeForce GTS 250

    * 512MB DDR3

    * PCI Express 2.0 x16



    * Chipset Manufacturer: NVIDIA

    * Core Clock: 738MHz

    * Shader Clock: 1836MHz

    * Stream Processors: 128

     

    Only $75 after rebate. $100 if I want to go with EVGA brand instead.

     

    41 results, which is best and close to $100

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=gts+250&x=0&y=0

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    The HD5670, 9800GT, and GTS250 perform within 10% of one another.  I would probably opt for the HD5670 since it has DX11, requires less power, and is colder. 

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Honestly, while the GTS250 is, and has been, one of the only Nvidia products in recent memory to actually be a worthwhile purchase from Nvidia. That said, the Radeon HD 4850 is faster, and only $100 as well. Beyond that, the 5750 really is the best thing you could get. it's $120+shipping, performs about 25% faster than the Radeon HD 4850 or Geforce GTS 250 (3dmark GPU score of about 7,500 vs about 6,000), but throws in DirectX11 (the GTS250 doesn't even support DX10.1!), and sips power much mroe lightly than the GTS250 does.

    Guru3d showed a 78 watt difference between full GPU load and an idle GPU for the 5750, and 137 watt difference for the GTS250.

  • GuotieGuotie Member Posts: 14

    Integrated with HDMI POWERCOLOR AX5750 1GBD5-H Radeon HD 5750 1GB 128-bit DDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card

    •  Radeon HD 5750

    •  1GB DDR5

    •  PCI Express 2.1 x16

    • Chipset Manufacturer: ATI

    • Core Clock: 700MHz

    • Stream Processors: 720 Stream Processing Units

    • Effective Memory Clock: 1150MHz (4.6Gbps)

     


     


    ok well, I could get this 1 for $117 after rebate and shipping. I don't know about the brand Power Color.


    HIS brand for $123


  • viddsterviddster Member UncommonPosts: 220

    POWERCOLOR do decent cards so that would be a very good buy, and as Catamount said will be at least 20/25% faster.

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  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    viddster, your number is too low.  Its atleast 40~60% faster.

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    strictly speaking, the 5750 will not be more than 25% faster as per my own research (comparing the 3dmark Vantage GPU scores on respective Guru3d reviews), although it should be noted that 40% isn't unreasonable after you take into account the fact that the GTS250 does not support DX10.1, while most games from here on out should, meaning it would take a very big additional performance hit from that (DX10.1 is just vastly faster at rendering than DX10).

    It really kind of depends on how you look at it.

  • CleffyCleffy Member RarePosts: 6,414

    The tests were done a year ago and it seems ATI has been better with drivers.  The HD4770 outperforms the 9800GT.  So it should be reasonable to say the HD4850 which is nearly double the HD4770 will have a 40~50% advantage over a GTS250 which is just a tweaked 8800GT.

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    I'm sorry, but the 4850 does not outperform the 4770 by any margin of note, and certainly not by a factor of 2.

     

    Source

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    The GTS250 is still inferior to the 4770/4850, and quite inferior to the 5770, but not by quite so much (though it's more than enough to yet again fall on the rule to never buy Nvidia over Ati with present lineups image).

  • GuotieGuotie Member Posts: 14

    Originally posted by Catamount

    I'm sorry, but the 4850 does not outperform the 4770 by any margin of note, and certainly not by a factor of 2.

     

    Source

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    The GTS250 is still inferior to the 4770/4850, and quite inferior to the 5770, but not by quite so much (though it's more than enough to yet again fall on the rule to never buy Nvidia over Ati with present lineups image).

    Well I was talking about the 5750, but I guess I could pick up an Asus HD 5770 for $130 after rebate, $13 more than the 5750. Free Shipping.

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121363&cm_re=hd_5770-_-14-121-363-_-Product

  • TracedTraced Member Posts: 27

    I buy/sell/trade pc components constantly. For my own eprsonal computers, I follow toms hardware down to the dotted i's. Here is a good June 2010 article that should help you.

     

    http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/graphics-card-geforce-radeon,2646.html

  • GuotieGuotie Member Posts: 14

    I read that the 5750 & 5770 require a min 450w power supply and 75w PCI-E slot.

    I'm going to assume my board has the required wattage since it's built for gaming.

    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2747#ov

     

    My Power Suplly is an Allied AL-B450E 450W

     

     

     

     

    Well it better worke cause I've already got a card on order

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131327&cm_re=hd_5770-_-14-131-327-_-Product

    Power Color PCS+ HD 5770


    • Core Clock: 875MHz

    • Stream Processors: 800 Stream Processing Units

    • Effective Memory Clock: 1225MHz (4.9Gbps)

     

     

    Some benchmark comparisons & a review

    http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/H...d5770pcs/5.html

  • CatamountCatamount Member Posts: 773

    Originally posted by Guotie

    I read that the 5750 & 5770 require a min 450w power supply and 75w PCI-E slot.

    I'm going to assume my board has the required wattage since it's built for gaming.

    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2747#ov

     

    My Power Suplly is an Allied AL-B450E 450W

     

     

     

     

    Well it better worke cause I've already got a card on order

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131327&cm_re=hd_5770-_-14-131-327-_-Product

    Power Color PCS+ HD 5770


    • Core Clock: 875MHz

    • Stream Processors: 800 Stream Processing Units

    • Effective Memory Clock: 1225MHz (4.9Gbps)

     

     

    Some benchmark comparisons & a review

    http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/H...d5770pcs/5.html

    Oh HELL yeah you'll be fine with that. Honestly, the 5750/5770 sip so lightly on power, and let off so little heat, that there's almost nothing that wouldn't let you run one.

    Just looking at a couple of reviews, total system load with one should be in the ball park of 300-350 watts.

  • mudstuckmudstuck Member Posts: 203

    Originally posted by Catamount

    strictly speaking, the 5750 will not be more than 25% faster as per my own research (comparing the 3dmark Vantage GPU scores on respective Guru3d reviews), although it should be noted that 40% isn't unreasonable after you take into account the fact that the GTS250 does not support DX10.1, while most games from here on out should, meaning it would take a very big additional performance hit from that (DX10.1 is just vastly faster at rendering than DX10).

    It really kind of depends on how you look at it.

    OP not sure if this helps, but I ran WoW yesterday, all settings on Ultra, and was getting 56 frame per second, on the 5750.

    Ran for bout 8 hrs, no hitches at all, temp stayed around 66degrees celcius.

    I do not have a well vetilated case.

  • mudstuckmudstuck Member Posts: 203

    Originally posted by Guotie

    I read that the 5750 & 5770 require a min 450w power supply and 75w PCI-E slot.

    I'm going to assume my board has the required wattage since it's built for gaming.

    http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2747#ov

     

    My Power Suplly is an Allied AL-B450E 450W

     

     

     

     

    Well it better worke cause I've already got a card on order

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131327&cm_re=hd_5770-_-14-131-327-_-Product

    Power Color PCS+ HD 5770


    • Core Clock: 875MHz

    • Stream Processors: 800 Stream Processing Units

    • Effective Memory Clock: 1225MHz (4.9Gbps)

     

     

    Some benchmark comparisons & a review

    http://www.neoseeker.com/Articles/H...d5770pcs/5.html

    It has a power connector at the back of the card to hook to the power supply, and it has an adaptor to connect two molex connectors, or you can hook straight to it with, I think it was a six pin providing your PSU has an extra one, and I beleive that is the power connection that needs to be 75watt.

     

    My adaptor hooked to the card, and then to two molex, from the PSU. When I got a beter PSU I was able to hook straight to the card without the adaptor.

  • GuotieGuotie Member Posts: 14

    It didnt come with an adapter, so now Ive got to go out and buy 1. My PSU has a 6 pin verticle auxilliary connector, but I dont think theres an adaptor for it, so i need a 4 pin molex i guess.

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