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What impact will Blizzard's new MMO have on other MMO.
bastionix
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The only time I see long time MMO players quit their MMO is if there is an alternative for them.
If a company like Blizzard announces their new MMO, what will the majority of the current players do.
Would you expect every other MMO to get a huge drop in subscriptions or not?
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Seeing that we know nothing... absolutely, positively, totally and completely nothing... there is no way that anyone could possibly give any kind of intelligent speculation on this topic.
Impossible to say really seeing as we no absolutely nothing about it yet, other than it will be made by Blizzard. It's going to depend on just what type of game it is and what it focuses on. IMO, it will probaby impact WoW more than other MMOs, as many of the Blizzard fans will follow to their next game. As fara s wether or not theys tay there or return to WoW will be the big question.
As long as they are still dominatiing the market with wow, I doubt it'll be released any time soon.
Maybe it'll be release in the year 2020...
What a joke. Why do people feel like they need to relate the whole genre of MMO's to Blizzard. If Blizzard would've announced a new MMO at E3 this year, I wouldn't have been suprised at all. I mean who isn't or hasnt made an MMO yet?
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I don't agree that alternatives are the only cause for leaving an MMO.
I think burnout/ boredom is a valid reason as well.
I personally just got bored to tears of CoH, and then WOW. When I left both I didn't really have an alternative in mind, I just knew it was time to go and I was wasting my $15 and time.
I think Blizz's new MMO will attract a huge following, and therefore have a huge effect on WOW as well as the rest of the industry. As many "smaller" or less successful projects have found out as they try to jump on the MMO band-wagon, there is a limited market for the $15 per month MMO. If you product falls in that market you are either going to have to convince people to take on a 2nd subscription or to leave WOW.
This is the primary reason, IMO, for the growth in F2P's. Companies are trying to find a way to survive/compete with Blizz.
In the case of Blizz's new offering it will be interesting, as if they offer the same sub model as WOW they will probably be cannabalising their own market (WOW subscribers). They may try and do something similar to the SOE station pass (say $20 and you get a sub to both or something) to avoid having a negative effect on WOW subbers.
Of course, it also depends on how good the new game is. If it is very good, it could kill WOW completely (although I doubt it). Even hardened WOW subbers may be looking for something new by the time it is released, and to be honest WOW although a very good game is looking pretty dated these days.
Because they're big I guess. I could have included Funcom or SoE, but no one cares what they do anymore, at least not enough to change MMO from my experience.
What about all the company's who are making their entrance into the MMO genre? Blizz is a great company, all they did for the MMO world was put a lot of ideas from other games together. Now that people have realized there is really nothing to WoW, people are looking elsewhere. SWTOR is going to be a massive success. DOn't believe all the trash you read on here. Like WoW did four years ago, Tor is bringing a huge new crowd.
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Same for me currently, so I agree (now that I reflect my original statement was wrong).
However, it seems at one point long time MMO players seem to come back to MMO at one day or another. Maybe it's just a wrong impression I have. I only notice when people come back to MMO, everyone else I lose contact with mostly.
I'm sure Blizzard is hoping that their current subscribers will dual-sub. Which I'm guessing most will.
Ready for a catch-22
The worst thing Blizz can do is make the new game WoW version 2.0
The best thing Blizz can do is make the new game just like WoW but a newer version.
What I mean is they are doomed to alienate their current subscribers if theyre just remaking WoW (see EQ2). Basically they would be saying "WoW version 1 is not good enough anymore, play version 2!" And then the current players would feel like they have to give up 5 years of playing to get a new game. They wont do that.
BUT... if Blizz makes the new game just like WoW but updated with a new skin, scifantasy as an example. Then they're saying "You can still play WoW. But try this new game its very familiar, but different!", "And were still gonna support both!", "Yeah! Money!"
So as long as it plays like WoW, they'll get their 12M current subscribers between the 2 of them easily. Easily.
And most likely they'll pull in a lot of the old players who left WoW. My guess is they'll have 18M+ subs between both games, and maybe even upwards around 22M.
Tell the truth, even though I'm sick of WoW and I dont even think Cataclysm will get me to resub, I am looking forward to this mystery game. Very much so. My hope is they're fixing a lot of the shit they did wrong with WoW, but cant unfix. You cant just undo 5 years of familiar gameplay without pissing a lot of people off (see SWG).
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Ha it's called StarCraft. Which is Blizzard's only other option. And I am sure there will be no Diablo MMO..
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Well, people have been hoping for a Starcraft MMO for quite some time, and considering WoWs success following on the tails of the Warcraft RTS games, you could be right. But then again, theyre also releasing SC2... eventually... so to make an MMO of SC would put them in competition with eachother which would be a bad move on their part. Only way i could see them doing that would be if the SC MMO was released a good 2+ years after SC2.
Besides that, havent they already stated that it will be an original IP, not one of their existing IPs? (like Diablo or SC)
I think a better question would be "what impact will Action mmo's made by big companies have on other mmo's".
Will it be a nitch market or will it start to be the trend that will kill off the standard tab-targeting mmo's.
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Warcraft has been around since 94? 95? WIth Humans VS Orcs. Starcraft came sometime after it. Blizz wont drop a new MMO (if they even are) for 4 or 5 more years. WoW would have to reach the point of losing them money before they will drop it. They won't look for dual sub's because that's losing them money. And with SC this year and Diablo next or the one after, you have a long time to hope for a Blizz MMO..
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According to Blizzard both of you are wrong
, it's not going to be a WoW 2.0 neither will be StarCraft another option.
Blizzard rep "Zarhym" posted on the World of Warcraft forums that the new MMOG was already underway and that "it'll be a brand-new franchise, which means the lore, art, and gameplay are being developed entirely from scratch." He added, "We have nothing to advertise for the new MMO because it's a shell of a game thus far."
Blizzard Entertainment declined to comment on any further details.
As for the OP question, as some have said noone can possible answer that at this point.
If Blizzard could make a good starcraft MMO I think it would pwn all competition; I don't even play WoW either, not that it's bad or anything. Good marketing would go a long way with this one and making Zerg somehow playable(in terms of classes or, I mean, what do you play if your zerg? Obviously you don't want to be a zergling or even a simple hydralisk). In the mean time I'll keep trying to play Ryzom, Spellborn and AoC. AoC isn't bad. This game is in bad standing? Guess I'd have to buy it to find out why. I'm enjoying it alot though. Anyways enough about me, Starcraft MMO? PLEASE?!@?!.,
edit: aww a new franchise.. I guess I'm not too dissapointed, hopefully it's sci-fi.
I agree. But the problem with a SC MMO, is it's likeness to Warhammer 40k. And any fanboi's please don't try to fight that...
WIth the 40k MMO coming out which will have a large following of 40k fan's SC would also have a huge following being from Blizz and it's name, but even to me it's still a 40k ripoff. And I like SC.
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Haha, i could just imagine the fanboy war / nerd raging / forum PvP that would happen between WAR40k and an SC MMO... Anyway, i agree with Juiceman, hopefully it is Sci-FI, or Steampunk, or ANYTHING but fantasy. I think that's highly likely too since it would be kind of dumb on their part to release yet another Fantasy MMO when they have WoW. Who knows, they may come up with something completely original as a genre that we wouldnt have even expected. Just anything but the same old crap, please.
Yeah. I enjoyed WoW a lot. I hate on it because looking back, it really wasn't that good. So I hope Blizz doesn't repeat witht the same game mechanics.
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Your logic escapes me on how they'll lose money if people pay for both their MMO games?
Heres the thing, like you said Blizz will support WoW as long as it makes them money. And people will play WoW as long as Blizz updates it. But only until someone catches WoW's mojo. Before I quit WoW yet again, everyone in my guild was getting tired of the game. And they were really looking forward to cataclysm just because its going to inject newness back into the game. Its not some much in that its adding a new area its that its reshaping the whole world.
Blizz cant afford to let someone catch their mojo. 12M people paying $14.99 (or whatever it averages out to) a month is a lot of f'n money. They know their player base is getting burned out. I dont expect to even hear aboput their new MMO from them for at least another 2 years. But they would be bigger fools that SoE with the SWG NGE, if they wernt planning on offering something new to their current MMO subscribers. And rehashing WoW isnt going to cut it forever.
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Blizzard is a very smart company. One of the best. They don't release their game's along with other game's of theirs because of their competativeness towards each other, even though they are their own. If a new WarCraft dropped a quarter or two after this SC, Blizz could loose money. Plenty of ppl wait for prices to go down to buy a game, some have to have it when it come's out. Old game's can sell just as well as new ones. Blizz knows this. SoE messed up by owning multiple mmo's. They are not only competing with other MMO's but with their selves. But Sony can afford to lose some cash.
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That's funny you mention that. 40k is looking sweet as hell. It's got a cooler setting then most MMOs, futuristic edge. I guess I never really thought of Starcraft as a 40k rip-off but I see it now. At least it's not as bad as Warcraft's blatent rip-off of original Warhammer right?(excuse me if my warhammer knowledge is, well, =to nada)
I keep hearing still 12m subs where has it been recently posted by activision or blizzard that they have 12 million ACTIVE subs? They are losing subs they haven't said they are or not but they are.WoW was/is a great game for what it is.Problem is your looking now at a game almost 6 yerars old with 2 expansions out.Cata will bring some ppl back but I have a feeling the drop off once that content is done is gonna be even worse than the drop off they have had the last year.Eq2 came out 1-2 weeks before WoW and has given away more in free content than Blizzard has released in expansions.
Bioware will make sure to take alot of there player base ppl can sream and cry all they want there denials but only other company even close to blizzards old rep before the activision buy out is Bioware they WILL release a top notch game.
40k is looking good. Im excited.. But Warcraft is more original than SC is.. But I like 40k, SC, and Warcraft... Not so much original Warhammer... No real reason, but it doesnt pull me in.
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Come on SWTOR isnt going to even make a dent in the MMO market.
Like STO, it will attract Ip fans, but most will quit after the Sub gets too much.
Just take a look at the E3 Videos. That should speak right there. Literally
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Jesus, I can't get over this... This game is going to be huge. IP matter's. STO was a terrible game I can see why even the fanbois don't play it. One EA isnt making this the most expensive game ever just to watch it fail. They have big plans. Bioware have some of the best people in the industry working for them.. They know what people want and they know how to make it happen. This game is Bioware's vision of what MMO's should be like. Not the normal themepark everyone else makes. You can bash all you want and try to fit in. But when the game becomes one of the most succesful in the genre don't say I told you so.
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