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Benchmark Scores

De4dd0gDe4dd0g Member Posts: 157

With a Intel i5 2.3ghz, 4gb DDR3 RAM, and the Geforce 360M GPU I scored a bad 1800 on LOW.

So I guess this game won't be very worthwhile on a laptop.

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  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by De4dd0g

    With a Intel i5 2.3ghz, 4gb DDR3 RAM, and the Geforce 360M GPU I scored a bad 1800 on LOW.

    So I guess this game won't be very worthwhile on a laptop.

     

    Atleast you can play the game on this laptop..

     

    Makes me also wonder how other gaming laptops fare on this test.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • ghaleonx128ghaleonx128 Member Posts: 145

    I'm surprise by the low scores for FFXIV.  Your laptop seems fairly new so I'd think it'd run better. I do think the code is pretty horrible as far as optimization, rigs in general should be running this much better than they are.

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Originally posted by ghaleonx128

    I'm surprise by the low scores for FFXIV.  Your laptop seems fairly new so I'd think it'd run better. I do think the code is pretty horrible as far as optimization, rigs in general should be running this much better than they are.

    The benchmark is fine optimization wise, but the score chart is a bit too harsh. 

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Hyanmen

    Originally posted by ghaleonx128

    I'm surprise by the low scores for FFXIV.  Your laptop seems fairly new so I'd think it'd run better. I do think the code is pretty horrible as far as optimization, rigs in general should be running this much better than they are.

    The benchmark is fine optimization wise, but the score chart is a bit too harsh. 

    It makes no sense, honestly. My i7 PC scored around 1800 as well (I don't remember the actual number). I mean, it's possible that the video card was the reason but a 9800 GT is still capable of running most games at close to max settings at 1920x1080.

    Is FFXIV going to be the Crysis of MMOs?

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  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Originally posted by heartless

    It makes no sense, honestly. My i7 PC scored around 1800 as well (I don't remember the actual number). I mean, it's possible that the video card was the reason but a 9800 GT is still capable of running most games at close to max settings at 1920x1080.

    Is FFXIV going to be the Crysis of MMOs?

    http://www.bluegartr.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94743

    Read the first post. It explains how the benchmark basically works.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • ghaleonx128ghaleonx128 Member Posts: 145

    What I mean is if the game code is crappy, even with great equipment the quality will suffer, which seems to be the case.  They'll continue to optimize the code into release.

  • HyanmenHyanmen Member UncommonPosts: 5,357

    Originally posted by ghaleonx128

    What I mean is if the game code is crappy, even with great equipment the quality will suffer, which seems to be the case.  They'll continue to optimize the code into release.

    But it's not the case. The game scales naturally upwards as your hardware gets better. 

    It's not completely optimized yet (they said GPU's are the bottleneck right now), but the benchmark optimization is fine as is. Only the scoring system is harsher than in reality. The "minimum specs" on the official website would get maybe 1k points from the benchmark.

    Using LOL is like saying "my argument sucks but I still want to disagree".
  • Lord.BachusLord.Bachus Member RarePosts: 9,686

    Originally posted by ghaleonx128

    What I mean is if the game code is crappy, even with great equipment the quality will suffer, which seems to be the case.  They'll continue to optimize the code into release.

    Back in the old days of Pre WOW MMO's, these games where build to last for years.  EQ had harsh requirements and everyone allways graphically lagged in DAOC mass PvP. 

     

    Back then games where build to last over the years ...  And people didn't mind to upgrade their systems to play that killer MMO, after all once in a while you just needed an app that required more from your system so you had a good reason to upgrade.

     

    Nowerdays its more important that a game scales and allows low end systems to acces games. I have an over 3 years PC that barely quallifies to play the game... so the game scales well, as there is no PC available to play at all settings max for now.

     

     

    But your accusations about crappy game code do not hold any worth to me as you can't back them up with facts. I say its a design choice.

    Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)

  • shane242shane242 Member UncommonPosts: 95

    Im getting just over 4,500 on a ATI 5850

     

    System spec is

    Win 7 64bit

    Intel Q6600 (@3.3ghz)

    ATI 5850 (@ 1200/1000)

    4GB DDR2 (@900Mhz)

     

    ~Shiftone

  • eyeswideopeneyeswideopen Member Posts: 2,414

    Originally posted by Hyanmen

    Originally posted by ghaleonx128

    What I mean is if the game code is crappy, even with great equipment the quality will suffer, which seems to be the case.  They'll continue to optimize the code into release.

    But it's not the case. The game scales naturally upwards as your hardware gets better. 

    It's not completely optimized yet (they said GPU's are the bottleneck right now), but the benchmark optimization is fine as is. Only the scoring system is harsher than in reality. The "minimum specs" on the official website would get maybe 1k points from the benchmark.

    Then perhaps they should stop the "benchmark" until they can make it reflect reality, eh?

    As I've said before, Square Enix benchmarks are laughable after I checked the one they have for The Lost Remnant and it lagged like shit at 9fps in places, yet I can run the actual game totally maxed out with no slowdown in the same spots the "benchmark" crawled through.

    -Letting Derek Smart work on your game is like letting Osama bin Laden work in the White House. Something will burn.-
    -And on the 8th day, man created God.-

  • ghaleonx128ghaleonx128 Member Posts: 145

    I really don't care about the benchmark.  If the game runs well on a variety of systems that's great.  But if the code is crappy, it will require more resources from the GPU.... giving you worse graphics no matter if it's a high or low end computer. Like with xbox 360 ports to the PS3, very different archietures.

  • De4dd0gDe4dd0g Member Posts: 157

    Well in my opinion designing a game for only HIGH end game systems is a really bad choice. The game market isn't full of idiots who spend $2,000+ on a desktop. Only a very serious gamer would do something like that. $2,000 is worth a lot more than buying a computer just to play games on. Never the less, I run AION maxed out graphics between 60-80 FPS. Even in battle I still hit a all low of 50 FPS. We know that AION is beautiful too the landscape is very detail and looks great. So if I have to run FFXIV at all time LOW graphics why would I want to even play this crappy game?

     

    Even funnier FFXI runs HORRIBLE on this laptop I'm talking a 8 year old game, gets maybe 10 FPS in battle. I finally got ahold of Square Enix customer support and they said Nvidia GPU's and Drivers don't support FFXI with new models. He said I should get a older desktop and use that. Now why in the world would I want to get a old desktop just to play that game? I think square enix might have some design flaws.

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  • chadddadachadddada Member Posts: 24

    It's all well in good that you might have an i7... but a crap vid card does you no good.  Get @ least a Gforce2xx or ATI 5xxx, I would say.  Why play a NEW game on OLD cards that are 3-4 generations ago?

  • WaldoeWaldoe Member UncommonPosts: 642

    Originally posted by De4dd0g

    Well in my opinion designing a game for only HIGH end game systems is a really bad choice. The game market isn't full of idiots who spend $2,000+ on a desktop. Only a very serious gamer would do something like that. $2,000 is worth a lot more than buying a computer just to play games on. Never the less, I run AION maxed out graphics between 60-80 FPS. Even in battle I still hit a all low of 50 FPS. We know that AION is beautiful too the landscape is very detail and looks great. So if I have to run FFXIV at all time LOW graphics why would I want to even play this crappy game?

     

    Even funnier FFXI runs HORRIBLE on this laptop I'm talking a 8 year old game, gets maybe 10 FPS in battle. I finally got ahold of Square Enix customer support and they said Nvidia GPU's and Drivers don't support FFXI with new models. He said I should get a older desktop and use that. Now why in the world would I want to get a old desktop just to play that game? I think square enix might have some design flaws.

    Instead of flaming you could have looked at the system requirements that were released yesterday. Even for minimun specs they are not that bad after at all by todays standards. But flame on.... 

  • ElirionElirion Member Posts: 160

    Originally posted by shane242

    Im getting just over 4,500 on a ATI 5850

     

    System spec is

    Win 7 64bit

    Intel Q6600 (@3.3ghz)

    ATI 5850 (@ 1200/1000)

    4GB DDR2 (@900Mhz)

     

    ~Shiftone

     Is that on the lower graphics setting?  I ask because i only got about 3500 ish (can't remember exact score) on the high setting with the following system:

    Win7 64 bit

    I7 @ 2.6ghz

    Nvidia 470

    12 GB DDR3

  • De4dd0gDe4dd0g Member Posts: 157

    Originally posted by Waldoe

    Originally posted by De4dd0g

    Well in my opinion designing a game for only HIGH end game systems is a really bad choice. The game market isn't full of idiots who spend $2,000+ on a desktop. Only a very serious gamer would do something like that. $2,000 is worth a lot more than buying a computer just to play games on. Never the less, I run AION maxed out graphics between 60-80 FPS. Even in battle I still hit a all low of 50 FPS. We know that AION is beautiful too the landscape is very detail and looks great. So if I have to run FFXIV at all time LOW graphics why would I want to even play this crappy game?

     

    Even funnier FFXI runs HORRIBLE on this laptop I'm talking a 8 year old game, gets maybe 10 FPS in battle. I finally got ahold of Square Enix customer support and they said Nvidia GPU's and Drivers don't support FFXI with new models. He said I should get a older desktop and use that. Now why in the world would I want to get a old desktop just to play that game? I think square enix might have some design flaws.

    Instead of flaming you could have looked at the system requirements that were released yesterday. Even for minimun specs they are not that bad after at all by todays standards. But flame on.... 

    I surpase all the system requirements, I'm sure the game will run fine on the laptop. it's hard to not say Square Enix has design flaws it's pretty ovious

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  • WaldoeWaldoe Member UncommonPosts: 642

    Originally posted by De4dd0g

    Originally posted by Waldoe


    Originally posted by De4dd0g

    Well in my opinion designing a game for only HIGH end game systems is a really bad choice. The game market isn't full of idiots who spend $2,000+ on a desktop. Only a very serious gamer would do something like that. $2,000 is worth a lot more than buying a computer just to play games on. Never the less, I run AION maxed out graphics between 60-80 FPS. Even in battle I still hit a all low of 50 FPS. We know that AION is beautiful too the landscape is very detail and looks great. So if I have to run FFXIV at all time LOW graphics why would I want to even play this crappy game?

     

    Even funnier FFXI runs HORRIBLE on this laptop I'm talking a 8 year old game, gets maybe 10 FPS in battle. I finally got ahold of Square Enix customer support and they said Nvidia GPU's and Drivers don't support FFXI with new models. He said I should get a older desktop and use that. Now why in the world would I want to get a old desktop just to play that game? I think square enix might have some design flaws.

    Instead of flaming you could have looked at the system requirements that were released yesterday. Even for minimun specs they are not that bad after at all by todays standards. But flame on.... 

    I surpase all the system requirements, I'm sure the game will run fine on the laptop. it's hard to not say Square Enix has design flaws it's pretty ovious

    Explain the design flaws haha

  • svannsvann Member RarePosts: 2,230

    It crashes on my laptop (M17x, radeon 5870).  Not sure why.  The video driver is as up to date as I can get it.  No idea how to trouble shoot what is crashing it as it does not create an errorlog.  Could be video or it could be anything else.  Hopefully its an artifact of the benchmark and not an indication of the playability of the actual game.  Still works on my older desktop with about 3000 on low.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by chadddada

    It's all well in good that you might have an i7... but a crap vid card does you no good.  Get @ least a Gforce2xx or ATI 5xxx, I would say.  Why play a NEW game on OLD cards that are 3-4 generations ago?

    Because the card works just fine and I can play most games at max settings or near max settings. So for now, I'm waiting for the new generation of Nvidia cards to drop down in price before I get one.

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  • SeffrenSeffren Member Posts: 743

    Not to sound like a noob ... but what benchmark are you guys talking about.

    I'd like to take a shot at it myself.

  • VaultFairyVaultFairy Member UncommonPosts: 566

    Guess ill be playing this on the PS3. My laptop got 700 something.

     

    Wish i had a gaming desktop/laptop.

  • DrughiDrughi Member Posts: 174

    555 at 1900 on my new macbook pro :/

     

    i5, 4g ram, nvidia GT330M

     

    have to try on low buttttttttttt

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Seffren

    Not to sound like a noob ... but what benchmark are you guys talking about.

    I'd like to take a shot at it myself.

    This one.

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  • SeffrenSeffren Member Posts: 743

    Cool tx, I'll try this 2night when I get home and post results.

  • heartlessheartless Member UncommonPosts: 4,993

    Originally posted by Seffren

    Cool tx, I'll try this 2night when I get home and post results.

    No problem and good luck, this benchmark tool is unforgiving.

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