Collector's edition is for the collectors (:O) who would find a use for and appreciate all the things in there, the journal might tickle someone's fancy, the early access could be gold to the die-hard fans who have been waiting for the game and feel another day of waiting would kill them. If you have no interest in the things included in the package, it obviously wasn't put together and created for you, but that doesn't mean it won't be appreciated by the target consumer, and it certainly doesn't make it a bad selection.
In-game items should never be the basis for spending more money on a game. If the Onion helmet and the Goggles are not replaced by Physical Level 10 with better equipment, then I will be completely shocked. There has never been a collector's edition or pre-order reward that is useful at max level. I'm personally getting the Collector's Edition for the security token, the art book, and the DVD. I could care less about the helmet.
I agree with you here I don't think SE would give these items game breaking stats. I would say that they'd be cool for a few levels at start and beyond that would be replaced early on by superior itemisation. Therefore, an item maybe morenfor early style than practical use. As for the rest of the CE if people like the goodies and some FF fans may well dig the extras then why not spend a few dollars more.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think.
The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think. The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
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Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think.
The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
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Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
That's only true is almost no one gets the CE. Of course we'll have to wait and see. I think it'll still be plenty crowded though in that extra week.
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In-game items should never be the basis for spending more money on a game. If the Onion helmet and the Goggles are not replaced by Physical Level 10 with better equipment, then I will be completely shocked.
There has never been a collector's edition or pre-order reward that is useful at max level.
The closest I can remember to something being useful from pre-orders for a loooong time, was EQ2's Journeyman's Boots, used those to do all my timed runs to get the real ones. Made a huge difference in those first 6-8months.
But you are right, aside from situationally (the boots were really only good on the timed runs) I have never seen a promotional item carry too far into the game, so I am not worried either way.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think.
The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think. The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Aion is a very linear game I found when levelling. It's not the best of examples as I don't think FF XIV will have those narrow almost path like zones, it will be much larger game world. Maybe I am just getting older, but I think head start isn't worth it. I think best just to start with the crowd as longer term it is the crowd that will form the community on each server...for better or worse. Also, FF isn't a tier set end boss raider like WoW, you don't need to hurry to enjoy its PvE.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think.
The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Aion is a very linear game I found when levelling. It's not the best of examples as I don't think FF XIV will have those narrow almost path like zones, it will be much larger game world. Maybe I am just getting older, but I think head start isn't worth it. I think best just to start with the crowd as longer term it is the crowd that will form the community on each server...for better or worse. Also, FF isn't a tier set end boss raider like WoW, you don't need to hurry to enjoy its PvE.
I myself mainly do it because the head start crowd are those folks that REALLY love the game. The ones that just can't wait to be a part of it, the new beginning folks. Not to put the rest down, but it really seems to be a different feel from the huge mass exodus from the city gates. Some of the best guilds/groups have been in my pre starts, that is why I do it. For those other CE folks, I can't wait to see you in game just look for Volt.
just because the last remnant was poop doesnt mean their FFXIV wont be great. It's their flagship IP plus the original ff MMO was very successful
that being said, the last remnant was REALLY poop.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
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Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think.
The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Aion is a very linear game I found when levelling. It's not the best of examples as I don't think FF XIV will have those narrow almost path like zones, it will be much larger game world. Maybe I am just getting older, but I think head start isn't worth it. I think best just to start with the crowd as longer term it is the crowd that will form the community on each server...for better or worse. Also, FF isn't a tier set end boss raider like WoW, you don't need to hurry to enjoy its PvE.
The major difference is that Aion offered the headstart to those who preordered both versions of the game--the normal and the collector's edition. I'm not sure of how many people, outside of the fanbois, will get the collector's edition for this game, especially since the goggles look better and seem to be a better item anyway.
Either way, I rather wait 8 days (I thought that it was 6?) and know for a fact that there will be people to group with, rather than pay more money and hope that there will be enough people to group with.
Actually, the week headstart is better than you would think.
The CE players can get ahead of the masses once everyone logs in on the 30th and low level areas are overcrowded by the masses. It'll be good leveling in some higher level area without having to deal with lag at that point.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.
Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Aion is a very linear game I found when levelling. It's not the best of examples as I don't think FF XIV will have those narrow almost path like zones, it will be much larger game world. Maybe I am just getting older, but I think head start isn't worth it. I think best just to start with the crowd as longer term it is the crowd that will form the community on each server...for better or worse. Also, FF isn't a tier set end boss raider like WoW, you don't need to hurry to enjoy its PvE.
The major difference is that Aion offered the headstart to those who preordered both versions of the game--the normal and the collector's edition. I'm not sure of how many people, outside of the fanbois, will get the collector's edition for this game, especially since the goggles look better and seem to be a better item anyway.
Either way, I rather wait 8 days (I thought that it was 6?) and know for a fact that there will be people to group with, rather than pay more money and hope that there will be enough people to group with.
You're not going to be grouping with anyone hardly at the starter zone.
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That actually seems like a nice package to me. I don't really care about getting special equipment. In the long run it's meaningless. You neglected to mention how much it costs.
You're not going to be grouping with anyone hardly at the starter zone.
Fair enough. But what happens when it's 6 days later and the masses get their hands on the game and those who were part of the headstart are 30 levels higher than everyone else and have a hard time finding groups for their content? They will have to wait until the rest of the server catches up.
It happens with games that give you 3 day headstarts. The 6 day headstart for an small group of dedicated fans will only serve to make the issue that much more noticeable.
I don't like the whole headstart anyway. Everyone should start at the same time. Pre-orders should get some cool looking in-game items and/or a unique title though.
So I pay more and recieve an onion helm or I pay less and recieve goggles that give me more exp for faster leveling? wtf?
Because you'll be starting a week late. Gives you a chance to sorta' catch up.
Also keep in mind that the goggles will probably have charges instead of a continuous effect, somewhat like the Empress Band in FFXI. And it may not be possible to recharge them after usage. So once used up, they become a mere novelty item. This of course, could also be the case with the Onion helmet.
I am looking forward to this game, I will be buying it, but the CE package is really just lame...
In-Game Item – Collector’s Edition preorders will include a reward code to receive an exclusive in-game item, the Onion Helm.*
Woot. 1 helm. Great.
Early Access– Play 8 days prior to the release of the Windows PC Standard Edition (timing of access subject to initial server capacity).
Great, 8 days that won't matter in 1 month from now when everyone is equal anyhow.
Subject to availability ofc.
Behind the Scenes DVD – Get an insider look at the making of FINAL FANTASY XIV, with exclusive video content, interviews and more in this special documentary DVD.
Which will be online for free 1 day after launch.
Security Token – A FINAL FANTASY XIV–branded Security Token for use with your regular password.
I don't even know what this is... not much of an incentive right now to buy.
Travel Journal – Record your travels in this beautifully bound journal filled with pages of never-before-seen concept art.
A book to write in...
Right of Passage – Redeem a voucher to receive your fully-personalized Right of Passage Certificate, each stamped with a unique serial number.
Eh What?
Amano Cover – Special PC Collector’s Edition illustration by renowned artist Yoshitaka Amano.
they are saying cover art is a feature?
Really, for the money, it's a sad package
Come on! it's not just a Helm, it's an Onion Helm. It sure makes your enemies cry until death.
I have always though that Collector's editions are just a money sucker. This one looks like it too. Not becouse SE is more greedy than any other company, just becouse any CE of any game is a money sucker.
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Collector's edition is for the collectors (:O) who would find a use for and appreciate all the things in there, the journal might tickle someone's fancy, the early access could be gold to the die-hard fans who have been waiting for the game and feel another day of waiting would kill them. If you have no interest in the things included in the package, it obviously wasn't put together and created for you, but that doesn't mean it won't be appreciated by the target consumer, and it certainly doesn't make it a bad selection.
Don't worry, I got that. Ah, my eyes!
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Save the money for character slots since you only get one.
More than enough for me. And to most of you too. Np.
I agree with you here I don't think SE would give these items game breaking stats. I would say that they'd be cool for a few levels at start and beyond that would be replaced early on by superior itemisation. Therefore, an item maybe morenfor early style than practical use. As for the rest of the CE if people like the goodies and some FF fans may well dig the extras then why not spend a few dollars more.Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
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Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.That's only true is almost no one gets the CE. Of course we'll have to wait and see. I think it'll still be plenty crowded though in that extra week.
To be the best, you must help each other become the best.
FFXI Character: Satimasu
FFXI Server: Valefor
FFXIV Character: Tamorae Fonteil
The closest I can remember to something being useful from pre-orders for a loooong time, was EQ2's Journeyman's Boots, used those to do all my timed runs to get the real ones. Made a huge difference in those first 6-8months.
But you are right, aside from situationally (the boots were really only good on the timed runs) I have never seen a promotional item carry too far into the game, so I am not worried either way.
For me the cincher is the 8days.
Alexis
Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Amen to this. That was a big selling point to me.
END OF LINE_
~V
Downside I guess is that the crowded areas might give you those special grouping experiences. In mmo headstart can be quite a lonely experience.Aion was really crowded on EU headstart. If you missed the original server start by 10 minutes, you had to camp a fruit basket for 10 minutes.
I'd imagine it would be similar with FF(XIVMVI?), it will still be better than the normal launch, but no where lonely.
Aion is a very linear game I found when levelling. It's not the best of examples as I don't think FF XIV will have those narrow almost path like zones, it will be much larger game world. Maybe I am just getting older, but I think head start isn't worth it. I think best just to start with the crowd as longer term it is the crowd that will form the community on each server...for better or worse. Also, FF isn't a tier set end boss raider like WoW, you don't need to hurry to enjoy its PvE.So I pay more and recieve an onion helm or I pay less and recieve goggles that give me more exp for faster leveling? wtf?
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Because you'll be starting a week late. Gives you a chance to sorta' catch up.
To be the best, you must help each other become the best.
FFXI Character: Satimasu
FFXI Server: Valefor
FFXIV Character: Tamorae Fonteil
I myself mainly do it because the head start crowd are those folks that REALLY love the game. The ones that just can't wait to be a part of it, the new beginning folks. Not to put the rest down, but it really seems to be a different feel from the huge mass exodus from the city gates. Some of the best guilds/groups have been in my pre starts, that is why I do it. For those other CE folks, I can't wait to see you in game just look for Volt.
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Ill probably use the headstart week to try out each one of the races to see which I like best.
Your post is invalide. your credibility just went out the window.
If you dont know what this is. refrain from making Threads untill you learn about importent things.
just because the last remnant was poop doesnt mean their FFXIV wont be great. It's their flagship IP plus the original ff MMO was very successful
that being said, the last remnant was REALLY poop.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
Currently Playing EVE, ESO
Every gun that is made, every warship launched, every rocket fired signifies, in the final sense, a theft from those who hunger and are not fed, those who are cold and not clothed.
Dwight D Eisenhower
My optimism wears heavy boots and is loud.
Henry Rollins
The major difference is that Aion offered the headstart to those who preordered both versions of the game--the normal and the collector's edition. I'm not sure of how many people, outside of the fanbois, will get the collector's edition for this game, especially since the goggles look better and seem to be a better item anyway.
Either way, I rather wait 8 days (I thought that it was 6?) and know for a fact that there will be people to group with, rather than pay more money and hope that there will be enough people to group with.
You're not going to be grouping with anyone hardly at the starter zone.
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That actually seems like a nice package to me. I don't really care about getting special equipment. In the long run it's meaningless. You neglected to mention how much it costs.
Fair enough. But what happens when it's 6 days later and the masses get their hands on the game and those who were part of the headstart are 30 levels higher than everyone else and have a hard time finding groups for their content? They will have to wait until the rest of the server catches up.
It happens with games that give you 3 day headstarts. The 6 day headstart for an small group of dedicated fans will only serve to make the issue that much more noticeable.
I don't like the whole headstart anyway. Everyone should start at the same time. Pre-orders should get some cool looking in-game items and/or a unique title though.
Also keep in mind that the goggles will probably have charges instead of a continuous effect, somewhat like the Empress Band in FFXI. And it may not be possible to recharge them after usage. So once used up, they become a mere novelty item. This of course, could also be the case with the Onion helmet.
Come on! it's not just a Helm, it's an Onion Helm. It sure makes your enemies cry until death.
I have always though that Collector's editions are just a money sucker. This one looks like it too. Not becouse SE is more greedy than any other company, just becouse any CE of any game is a money sucker.
In a recent interview, Tanaka said the in-game items they give for pre-orders were mainly aesthetic.
http://www.jeuxonline.info/actualite/27600/jeuxonline-rencontre-hiromichi-tanaka
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