Can someone tell me where i can find this ultra great mmorpg that does not use a tank, dps, healer, hybrid mixes of them. Please becuase i want to see a game where everyone in the mmo is the exact same person with the exact same skills. So i can join what a fun fest that is,.
I call it "The new generation of more of the same". The minute they started saying "tank" and "healer" I knew we were doomed to a sci-fi WoW 2.0
Though I'll probably play it if a friend of mine wants to, just to stay in touch with him. But I'm nowhere near as hyped as I used to be about it.
Can someone tell me where i can find this ultra great mmorpg that does not use a tank, dps, healer, hybrid mixes of them. Please becuase i want to see a game where everyone in the mmo is the exact same person with the exact same skills. So i can join what a fun fest that is,.
I call it "The new generation of more of the same". The minute they started saying "tank" and "healer" I knew we were doomed to a sci-fi WoW 2.0
Though I'll probably play it if a friend of mine wants to, just to stay in touch with him. But I'm nowhere near as hyped as I used to be about it.
Can someone tell me where i can find this ultra great mmorpg that does not use a tank, dps, healer, hybrid mixes of them. Please becuase i want to see a game where everyone in the mmo is the exact same person with the exact same skills. So i can join what a fun fest that is,.
can you keep reposting the same thing ?
Sure if you would like me to. I reposted becuase the quote did not get in there and I did not want my comment to seem unrelated to the thread. Sorry that it annoys you so; that I wanted to be clear on why I made my comment.
I call it "The new generation of more of the same". The minute they started saying "tank" and "healer" I knew we were doomed to a sci-fi WoW 2.0
Though I'll probably play it if a friend of mine wants to, just to stay in touch with him. But I'm nowhere near as hyped as I used to be about it.
Can someone tell me where i can find this ultra great mmorpg that does not use a tank, dps, healer, hybrid mixes of them. Please becuase i want to see a game where everyone in the mmo is the exact same person with the exact same skills. So i can join what a fun fest that is,.
can you keep reposting the same thing ?
You really need to find a game. And no, trolling SWTOR forums doesnt fit that description. You dont like this game based on your flawless insight, superior intellect and whatever super powers you have aquired. We get it, you have shown us all the light. Only fanboys and the mentally challenged disagree with you, now go back under your bridge and wait on the next sucky game you can save the world from.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Other than the developers being BIOWARE, nothing on this list is new or a big deal. I thought this game would be cool during the first announcement, but I worry its just going to be another grind and skillbar MMO. Probably like WOW, Bioware style.
Like another said close to the top, I'll believe it when I see it.
Been playing SWG since 2004 and still love the game despite all the changes.
While I see the appeal to this game, it looks and feels like an attempt to marry the MMO experience to the console mentality. By the nature of what most think of as an MMO, seems counter intuitive. IE, console games are normally short engagements with no continual online presence for the character. MMOs are essentially never ending and perpetual virutal invironment. IE, when I am not on, another player can alter the virtual world.
Agree also, who is Bioware? Could just be the latest panzie chosen by LA. Seen many get burned out / sold out dealing with LA. Also, for all the money they claim / brag about spending, from what I have seen, they go ripped off.
Not sure what impresses me the most. 6 yrs in SWG or the fact that you dont know who Biowareis. Dont take this personally but your opinion doesnt influence me in the least.
Not trying to influence anyone and simply stating my opinion after playing games for 20 years. I know who Bioware is and there previous games were nothing speical IMO. I mean come on a single player story driven game with only OK graphics.
LA eats studios like BW for lunch. Like I said, I will believe they have a winner when it is actually released. Nothing shown to date, "real" game play included, seems all that great when compared to their claims of spending 100s of millions.
Not trying to influence anyone and simply stating my opinion after playing games for 20 years. I know who Bioware is and there previous games were nothing speical IMO. I mean come on a single player story driven game with only OK graphics.
LA eats studios like BW for lunch. Like I said, I will believe they have a winner when it is actually released. Nothing shown to date, "real" game play included, seems all that great when compared to their claims of spending 100s of millions.
I will aggre to a point, and that's only because in my opinion all we've been seeing so far is information mainly about low level combat, voice overs and the dialogue system. Don't get me wrong, they are good. But, they aren't the entirety of what makes a good MMO.
I'm hoping that soon we'll start seeing information about other aspects of the game. For example: higher level combat videos, actual world size, crafting / harvesting / economy synergy, more details about the ships, forms of travel, different forms of pvp, etc, etc.
Honestly, I really hate the reasons that are like, "It's Star Wars and it's Bioware." That means nothing to me. They have never done any multiplayer game, let alone an MMO. They don't realize that people aren't looking for Single player RPG like stories, just content and group content. Player housing is hardly a new development and by now it should be in all games, certainly not a reason to be excited. This whole article feels very forced, something I rarely feel when reading this guy's work.
I'm not at all excited, and not because it isnt SWG 2 or something like that. I'm not excited because all I want is more grouping, and this game does the exact opposite of that. No grouping required. Why do we play these games? Play The Witcher or Mass Effect or something if you want single player like stories, get them out of my MMO's because nobody wants them in it. I want to make the story.
It's a shame that SWG was released at a time when these games really were not that popular, because if it had been released with updated graphics and combat and some new mechanics for today's audience, then it would go on to sell a few million copies at least.
Whew, this game has a lot of haters. I see the big issue though, if the game is as good as it's supposed to be and actually manages to get the 1 to 2 million or more players it needs then they are going to be somewhat forced to play while the games they are more interested in suffer. I can understand because I've seen what WoW has done to the genre and can understand why someone might feel that another WoW (Just in terms of numbers not game.) might be about the last thing the MMO world needs right now.
Honestly, I really hate the reasons that are like, "It's Star Wars and it's Bioware." That means nothing to me. They have never done any multiplayer game, let alone an MMO. They don't realize that people aren't looking for Single player RPG like stories, just content and group content. Player housing is hardly a new development and by now it should be in all games, certainly not a reason to be excited. This whole article feels very forced, something I rarely feel when reading this guy's work.
I'm not at all excited, and not because it isnt SWG 2 or something like that. I'm not excited because all I want is more grouping, and this game does the exact opposite of that. No grouping required. Why do we play these games? Play The Witcher or Mass Effect or something if you want single player like stories, get them out of my MMO's because nobody wants them in it. I want to make the story.
It's a shame that SWG was released at a time when these games really were not that popular, because if it had been released with updated graphics and combat and some new mechanics for today's audience, then it would go on to sell a few million copies at least.
there is a few statements there in your post that is completly false and #1 is bioware never made a multiplayer game that is really false Neverwinter nights anyone? that is one of the best games of all time and im not talking about Neverwinter nights 2 im talking the one made by bioware theaqse guys know what there doing.
To all the ppl saying WoW with lightsabers i for one never see a comparison slightly or evan remotly close to it being WoW WoW is not the best mmo and nor will it ever be.
to the guy saying put all the subs from earlier games to gewther and you still wount get the numbers WoW has since when did numbers matter in the sucess of a MMO im prety sure Everquest was the most number base of all the old ones and even with half of wows subs EQ is still the better Game.
To all the ppl wanting to skip the story voice overs you can skip them but you will stil have to read every sentence every line or fubar your charecter up then why evan play if your not into story.
To all the ppl wanting less RPG in mmo's and more mmo then what will you be playing a nonsence game with nothing to involve you in why your doing anything.
To the guy a few posts above talking about Makeing his own story and not liner crap isnt that what your gonna be doing on every single toon you make will everyone completly diffrent making your own story you decide the outcome at every turn your in charge of it not anyone else .
To all the ppl wanting more RPG in the Word MMORPG i agree 100% EQ1 had this you always knew what the story was every quest you found when you did find them you always were readeing every line the whole time even when you steped foot on the Planes to take on the Gods to show them your not gonna put up with there choices was part of a story.
I am looking forward to this game because of alot of reasons i have played every mmo out and get more disapointed at every turn with each release the only two mmo's or i should say 4 mmo's that i was never let down on was Everquest 1, EQ2,Final fantasy XII and SWG untill LA messed it up with wanting simplar gameplay.
The most dissapointing MMO's ever was WoW (its way to dam simple and easy its a casual persons dream sorry i want to work for everything i get and not be handed stuff on a silver platter like WoW dose)
Warhammer (it was a great concept but it decided to copy othet casual games and im sorry im still as much now a hardcore gamer evan still 12 years later im still the same gamer as i always have been)
Earth and Beyond ( this was the best space sim untill it was cancelled that is the most dissapointing thing was it was cancelled)
Every new mmo that comes out really appeals to the casual gamer us older gamers are left out in the cold its not right and nore shall leaveing the casual gamer out in the cold but it seems like every mmo released is by far a casual mans game im all set like i said i wannt work for everything i have not be handed it i hope SWTOR is a mix of both so atleast everyone can have a place to go but i see this as more of a MMORPG that is what we all have craved for a very long time .
MMORPGS have a 6 year life span it seems before the next big thing comes out it happened to EQ with both WoW and EQ2 being releaed 6 years later after EQ so what the next big one is it TERA,FFXIV Guil Wars 2, Rift or something else who knows but i sure hope one that hooks me like EQ1 and FFXI Did .
#5 ) Personal Story for Your Character - Nope and no thanks, most people don't even care about the stories in MMOs,
When you say most people your referring to yourself as multiple persons correct? Last time i checked you didnt speak for "most" people and i happen to like a good written story no matter if its an mmorpg or a single player rpg.
When you say "most" people, you are referring to yourself correct? Or are you doing the same thing I did and calling yourself correct and me wrong? Just wondering...
No where does he say he speaks for anyone other than himself, he states a fact that you do not speak for most people. You on the other hand, "most people don't even care". And guess what I do care if there's a good story in an MMO.
I'm looking forward to the story, it's been missing from MMO's. And no one does story like Bioware!
You ever noticed you know all the WoW tards on here because they feel they have to despirately bash the game before it ever even comes out? Unfortunately they do have some decent points (might be that enough of them have killed themselves from not having enough of a real life that evolution is taking effect and they're developing useful thought processes), The primary concern for me at least was during the E3 Trailer when they showed the Inquisitor and The Jedi Consular. The Inquisitor was supposed to "Stand back and Cast" if a Sith Warrior was in the group, which if you ask me completely screws over the concept of an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors in Star Wars hunted down and converted populations to the Sith, they very much could fight.
That regard also raises question as to SW:TOR's Dev Department claiming that in the two progression pathes of the Sith Inquisitor (one being like Palpatine, and the other oddly enough being like Darth Maul) , how is it someone transitions from "I'm a magical caster" to "I'm the bad ass that killed all of the Black Sun, and killed Qui-Gon" unless there's something they're not relvealing rather early on within the game, I don't see how that transition would work.
Additionally I was psyched for the Jedi Consular as SW:TOR again with the Inquisitor had showed that there was quite an difference in the player experience. While on one hand I could be someone who's essentially Yoda (sounds boring to me) I could also be more bad ass like Obi-Wan, however in the footage they showed, all the Consular did was heal. Why in the hell would you think that is a good idea, or do you have something that isn't a complete wasted idea that's going to make it better?
Personally that's what I was psyched about, Character Customization and Story. I like having a story but I hope they do it so that it doesn't end up like "Legecy'" from Galaxies, yeah we all had an epic quest, but we all had the same epic quest. The only difference was if you chose to go rebel or Imperial, your faction you got at the end changed, you didn't even get different NPCs. I hope that depending on how you respond to a situation at one point within the game, the characters and story changes, and continues to do so so that maybe the combinations of choices is high enough so that you really have a story unique to you. Additionally and I can't say it enough, CHARACTER CLASSES, if it turns out that Inquisitor is what they say, and a Consular can do more than heal, I think it'll be interesting to see how character's change. Be it a James Bond esk Smuggler or A cool sleek stealthy Mercenary Assassin, A healer, or a diligant, but definitely combat worthy Consular, a cunning Knight who demolishes his enemies or a lightning fast murderer, or the Get-The-Job-Done Trooper vs say a Combat Medic, those choices will really determine the game to me.
P.S. If I hear it again I'm going to shoot something, No the Jedi in "Hope" did not use Blue Anime Style Fireballs. Might want to Check up on your force unleshed, but they recently started using those colors to animate Force Push, it gives you a visable representation of where the attack is, and considering you can dodge and avoid stuff within ToR (That's right lasers aren't heat seeking) you'd need some visual representation of where to move. I'll have you note that the only burns the Sith had were from the Nade he took to the face, the girl shattered him with a seriously powerful Force Push.
You ever noticed you know all the WoW tards on here because they feel they have to despirately bash the game before it ever even comes out? Unfortunately they do have some decent points (might be that enough of them have killed themselves from not having enough of a real life that evolution is taking effect and they're developing useful thought processes), The primary concern for me at least was during the E3 Trailer when they showed the Inquisitor and The Jedi Consular. The Inquisitor was supposed to "Stand back and Cast" if a Sith Warrior was in the group, which if you ask me completely screws over the concept of an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors in Star Wars hunted down and converted populations to the Sith, they very much could fight.
Ever notice people can't handle valid opinions and views that are opposed to their own and then to cope with them use a statement like, "They are wow tards" When in most cases they are not wow tard and are attempting to be objective. Even more intresting is when those very people are Starwars "tards" and have to despirately defend the game even before it comes out.
Ok this is sarcasim, but its my primary forum of criticism and this poster did post many valid points. The thing is that its rather unfair to broadly catagorizy people as such and even it it were true , still you need to give or remove validity from their comments.
I mean honestly , how is it different to say i love bioware and sw so this game is looking good or i trust them; and i like wow is the best and this game is different so i think it will be bad. Both of these arguemtns are equaly suspect and matters of bias without much logic.
However, i see more of the supporting post reading like that (blind faith) and more of the critical posts listing specfitic issues they are Obseerved. This is not causitive, but it does exhibit inequity of how posts are viewed.
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5) Story: I'm looking forward to this as I think it's something that most MMO's are currently lacking. Story is something that BioWare does better than just about everyone. I remember the firsts time I played KOTOR and how impressed I was with the story, and the feeling of freedom that came with it. There was really no freedom in that game, you were riding on rails as much or more than any game out there, but they managed to make it feel like your choices mattered. The choices of an individual aren't really going to change the MMO world, that would be ridiculous with the millions of people playing this game. But if they can make you FEEL like you're making a difference, I think they will have accomplished something great.
4) Voice Acting: It's all about the immersion. Having to stop to read something always brings me back to the real world, and I can only take so much reality! I'm sure those who want to will be able to skip voices the same way they skip text, but for those of us who want the full experience the game has to offer, this will definitely be a great feature.
3) Companion Characters: I like the idea of not having to beg and wait for a healer to join the group. I play a lot of classes with pets, so I kind of see this as an extension of this same idea. Would I prefer a real companion? At times, and when I'm in the mood for that I'll definitely group up.
2) Player Ships as Housing: I've never understood the desire for player housing. There are so many things I'd rather have the devs working on on. I don't see it as a negative, it doesnt' detract from the game, but it doesn't really get me excited either.
1) It's Star Wars and Bioware: How can it go wrong? heh I was raised on Star Wars, it was the first movie my parents ever took me to see in a theater. The lore is wide and deep. Games based on this IP have been on both sides of the spectrum, from Amazing to Absolutely Pathetic. The key here is that when it's done right, it works. That's where Bioware comes in. They do things right. They have NEVER dissapointed. Ever. So you have an IP with amazing potential and a developer that always delivers... sounds like a good combination to me.
Sure, the game won't be for everyone... but I suspect it will be the game of choice for millions, myself included. As for those already determined to hate the game? You won't be missed.
I'll tell u right now why I quit most MMO's. It is because after your 2nd 50,60 ,70,80 lv Toon. U know the whole boring story. Bioware is making every class,every run through a diff story. Hell even sub class story is diff. This make's replay a HUGE plus. I know u got alot of WoW,LotRO, and SWG ppl cring. This is because they have Paid for 6+ years to have this Super bad ass Toon(never read a single story line,Just power lv up) So they been playing 1 toon for years so they fill they just lost 1070 dollars just on there sub's not saing anything about all the money for the games and expenstions. Don't worry it is called change it happens in LIFE. WoW I power lv because the story was lame from day one.Think it toke me 11 day's to hit 50. LotRO I liked the story up till like lv 30 then u knew the story after that because of the books and movies. SWG story wasn't there. STO story sucked and game play. PotBS was PvP so who carried about story. while I could go on for hours. Just FYI it is nice to have some story. As long as our End game and PvP is there. Which I don't think there going to screw up. They have did there Home work ppl.
If u was a Big SW fan not a Movie fan.U would know that there is Master who can absorb lightsaber blows(energy). The Master Darth Sidious Killed in the Movie was a Jedi who could use force Lighting. These are thing unless u read the Books u wouldn't know,but shouldn't call them out on,Because u don't know. LA is making sure everything is Cannon. Lucas made the mistake of letting his back turn and we got a Jedi Wookie which he blow up about. After this and lmfao SWG non Cannon junk, He made sure that they stick to IP
I'll tell u right now why I quit most MMO's. It is because after your 2nd 50,60 ,70,80 lv Toon. U know the whole boring story. Bioware is making every class,every run through a diff story. Hell even sub class story is diff. This make's replay a HUGE plus. I know u got alot of WoW,LotRO, and SWG ppl cring. This is because they have Paid for 6+ years to have this Super bad ass Toon(never read a single story line,Just power lv up) So they been playing 1 toon for years so they fill they just lost 1070 dollars just on there sub's not saing anything about all the money for the games and expenstions. Don't worry it is called change it happens in LIFE. WoW I power lv because the story was lame from day one.Think it toke me 11 day's to hit 50. LotRO I liked the story up till like lv 30 then u knew the story after that because of the books and movies. SWG story wasn't there. STO story sucked and game play. PotBS was PvP so who carried about story. while I could go on for hours. Just FYI it is nice to have some story. As long as our End game and PvP is there. Which I don't think there going to screw up. They have did there Home work ppl.
It's the story arcs I am looking forward to given Biowares reputation. Endgame is for the birds really at launch, if I like the look I try for it otherwise can justbpass on it all as in many mmo it gets patched in post launch
Eh, my whole clan is going into this game for all those things listed. It is, after all what is making this game a game. We look at it this way, if you liked and have played KOTOR single player games and always wanted it MP, well here is your chance. Pretty much sums the game up , not your standard MMO as bioware has repeatly said time and time again from the start.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
ehh what? five reasons? for me its already hard to find one reason! for me the only thing is the 'star wars' in it. but it seems bioware do not want bring in the typical star wars feel & flair into the game. it just do not look, feel, smell or taste like star wars!
we saw an admiral akbar wannabe in on of the latest movies. it was just a failure to bring this clone of him into this scene. akbar is a very famous person, the peopels have their own opinions about him, but everyone knows his popular statement: it's a trap! they voice actor gave the akbar clone a different character. now he sound like a random car salesman from your local car shop! this is just one of many examples how different swtor is compared to the original star wars.
i think the statement of the real admiral akbar is the best to describe swtor.
ehh what? five reasons? for me its already hard to find one reason! for me the only thing is the 'star wars' in it. but it seems bioware do not want bring in the typical star wars feel & flair into the game. it just do not look, feel, smell or taste like star wars!
we saw an admiral akbar wannabe in on of the latest movies. it was just a failure to bring this clone of him into this scene. akbar is a very famous person, the peopels have their own opinions about him, but everyone knows his popular statement: it's a trap! they voice actor gave the akbar clone a different character. now he sound like a random car salesman from your local car shop! this is just one of many examples how different swtor is compared to the original star wars.
i think the statement of the real admiral akbar is the best to describe swtor.
Well not everyone will be looking forward to the launch of this game, different strokes for different folks I guess.
But I'm curious, you're saying that you hated the character because he looked like Ackbar but didn't sound or act like him? Seriously? What exactly were you expecting from a character that is supposed to be from the same Mon Calimari race but is not Ackbar? Do you expect them all to sound like they've got a bronchial infection and scream "Its a trap!" in response to everything? Besides that, do you realise that the game takes place 3,500 BEFORE the timeline of the films?
Will you be disappointed when you find theres characters from Yoda's race in the KOTOR timeline that doesn't sound EXACTLY like Yoda? And you can bet your life at least one of them will appear in SWTOR.
Look, I can get that you're not exactly thrilled about SWTOR, everyone has their different reasons to be thrilled or not about it. But the example you gave above is just very poor indeed.
Originally posted by SWGmodAlpha Like another said close to the top, I'll believe it when I see it.
Been playing SWG since 2004 and still love the game despite all the changes.
While I see the appeal to this game, it looks and feels like an attempt to marry the MMO experience to the console mentality. By the nature of what most think of as an MMO, seems counter intuitive. IE, console games are normally short engagements with no continual online presence for the character. MMOs are essentially never ending and perpetual virutal invironment. IE, when I am not on, another player can alter the virtual world.
Agree also, who is Bioware? Could just be the latest panzie chosen by LA. Seen many get burned out / sold out dealing with LA. Also, for all the money they claim / brag about spending, from what I have seen, they go ripped off.
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Can someone tell me where i can find this ultra great mmorpg that does not use a tank, dps, healer, hybrid mixes of them. Please becuase i want to see a game where everyone in the mmo is the exact same person with the exact same skills. So i can join what a fun fest that is,.
Can someone tell me where i can find this ultra great mmorpg that does not use a tank, dps, healer, hybrid mixes of them. Please becuase i want to see a game where everyone in the mmo is the exact same person with the exact same skills. So i can join what a fun fest that is,.
Sure if you would like me to. I reposted becuase the quote did not get in there and I did not want my comment to seem unrelated to the thread. Sorry that it annoys you so; that I wanted to be clear on why I made my comment.
You really need to find a game. And no, trolling SWTOR forums doesnt fit that description. You dont like this game based on your flawless insight, superior intellect and whatever super powers you have aquired. We get it, you have shown us all the light. Only fanboys and the mentally challenged disagree with you, now go back under your bridge and wait on the next sucky game you can save the world from.
WOW isnt great because it has 12 million players. WOW has 12 million players because its great.
Other than the developers being BIOWARE, nothing on this list is new or a big deal. I thought this game would be cool during the first announcement, but I worry its just going to be another grind and skillbar MMO. Probably like WOW, Bioware style.
Not trying to influence anyone and simply stating my opinion after playing games for 20 years. I know who Bioware is and there previous games were nothing speical IMO. I mean come on a single player story driven game with only OK graphics.
LA eats studios like BW for lunch. Like I said, I will believe they have a winner when it is actually released. Nothing shown to date, "real" game play included, seems all that great when compared to their claims of spending 100s of millions.
I will aggre to a point, and that's only because in my opinion all we've been seeing so far is information mainly about low level combat, voice overs and the dialogue system. Don't get me wrong, they are good. But, they aren't the entirety of what makes a good MMO.
I'm hoping that soon we'll start seeing information about other aspects of the game. For example: higher level combat videos, actual world size, crafting / harvesting / economy synergy, more details about the ships, forms of travel, different forms of pvp, etc, etc.
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I'll be stoked when the game is released and I can play it.
SW:ToR is the only MMO title Im looking forward to atm with the exception of WoD but its likely a long way off.
Whew, this game has a lot of haters. I see the big issue though, if the game is as good as it's supposed to be and actually manages to get the 1 to 2 million or more players it needs then they are going to be somewhat forced to play while the games they are more interested in suffer. I can understand because I've seen what WoW has done to the genre and can understand why someone might feel that another WoW (Just in terms of numbers not game.) might be about the last thing the MMO world needs right now.
there is a few statements there in your post that is completly false and #1 is bioware never made a multiplayer game that is really false Neverwinter nights anyone? that is one of the best games of all time and im not talking about Neverwinter nights 2 im talking the one made by bioware theaqse guys know what there doing.
To all the ppl saying WoW with lightsabers i for one never see a comparison slightly or evan remotly close to it being WoW WoW is not the best mmo and nor will it ever be.
to the guy saying put all the subs from earlier games to gewther and you still wount get the numbers WoW has since when did numbers matter in the sucess of a MMO im prety sure Everquest was the most number base of all the old ones and even with half of wows subs EQ is still the better Game.
To all the ppl wanting to skip the story voice overs you can skip them but you will stil have to read every sentence every line or fubar your charecter up then why evan play if your not into story.
To all the ppl wanting less RPG in mmo's and more mmo then what will you be playing a nonsence game with nothing to involve you in why your doing anything.
To the guy a few posts above talking about Makeing his own story and not liner crap isnt that what your gonna be doing on every single toon you make will everyone completly diffrent making your own story you decide the outcome at every turn your in charge of it not anyone else .
To all the ppl wanting more RPG in the Word MMORPG i agree 100% EQ1 had this you always knew what the story was every quest you found when you did find them you always were readeing every line the whole time even when you steped foot on the Planes to take on the Gods to show them your not gonna put up with there choices was part of a story.
I am looking forward to this game because of alot of reasons i have played every mmo out and get more disapointed at every turn with each release the only two mmo's or i should say 4 mmo's that i was never let down on was Everquest 1, EQ2,Final fantasy XII and SWG untill LA messed it up with wanting simplar gameplay.
The most dissapointing MMO's ever was WoW (its way to dam simple and easy its a casual persons dream sorry i want to work for everything i get and not be handed stuff on a silver platter like WoW dose)
Warhammer (it was a great concept but it decided to copy othet casual games and im sorry im still as much now a hardcore gamer evan still 12 years later im still the same gamer as i always have been)
Earth and Beyond ( this was the best space sim untill it was cancelled that is the most dissapointing thing was it was cancelled)
Every new mmo that comes out really appeals to the casual gamer us older gamers are left out in the cold its not right and nore shall leaveing the casual gamer out in the cold but it seems like every mmo released is by far a casual mans game im all set like i said i wannt work for everything i have not be handed it i hope SWTOR is a mix of both so atleast everyone can have a place to go but i see this as more of a MMORPG that is what we all have craved for a very long time .
MMORPGS have a 6 year life span it seems before the next big thing comes out it happened to EQ with both WoW and EQ2 being releaed 6 years later after EQ so what the next big one is it TERA,FFXIV Guil Wars 2, Rift or something else who knows but i sure hope one that hooks me like EQ1 and FFXI Did .
I'm looking forward to the story, it's been missing from MMO's. And no one does story like Bioware!
You ever noticed you know all the WoW tards on here because they feel they have to despirately bash the game before it ever even comes out? Unfortunately they do have some decent points (might be that enough of them have killed themselves from not having enough of a real life that evolution is taking effect and they're developing useful thought processes), The primary concern for me at least was during the E3 Trailer when they showed the Inquisitor and The Jedi Consular. The Inquisitor was supposed to "Stand back and Cast" if a Sith Warrior was in the group, which if you ask me completely screws over the concept of an Inquisitor. The Inquisitors in Star Wars hunted down and converted populations to the Sith, they very much could fight.
That regard also raises question as to SW:TOR's Dev Department claiming that in the two progression pathes of the Sith Inquisitor (one being like Palpatine, and the other oddly enough being like Darth Maul) , how is it someone transitions from "I'm a magical caster" to "I'm the bad ass that killed all of the Black Sun, and killed Qui-Gon" unless there's something they're not relvealing rather early on within the game, I don't see how that transition would work.
Additionally I was psyched for the Jedi Consular as SW:TOR again with the Inquisitor had showed that there was quite an difference in the player experience. While on one hand I could be someone who's essentially Yoda (sounds boring to me) I could also be more bad ass like Obi-Wan, however in the footage they showed, all the Consular did was heal. Why in the hell would you think that is a good idea, or do you have something that isn't a complete wasted idea that's going to make it better?
Personally that's what I was psyched about, Character Customization and Story. I like having a story but I hope they do it so that it doesn't end up like "Legecy'" from Galaxies, yeah we all had an epic quest, but we all had the same epic quest. The only difference was if you chose to go rebel or Imperial, your faction you got at the end changed, you didn't even get different NPCs. I hope that depending on how you respond to a situation at one point within the game, the characters and story changes, and continues to do so so that maybe the combinations of choices is high enough so that you really have a story unique to you. Additionally and I can't say it enough, CHARACTER CLASSES, if it turns out that Inquisitor is what they say, and a Consular can do more than heal, I think it'll be interesting to see how character's change. Be it a James Bond esk Smuggler or A cool sleek stealthy Mercenary Assassin, A healer, or a diligant, but definitely combat worthy Consular, a cunning Knight who demolishes his enemies or a lightning fast murderer, or the Get-The-Job-Done Trooper vs say a Combat Medic, those choices will really determine the game to me.
P.S. If I hear it again I'm going to shoot something, No the Jedi in "Hope" did not use Blue Anime Style Fireballs. Might want to Check up on your force unleshed, but they recently started using those colors to animate Force Push, it gives you a visable representation of where the attack is, and considering you can dodge and avoid stuff within ToR (That's right lasers aren't heat seeking) you'd need some visual representation of where to move. I'll have you note that the only burns the Sith had were from the Nade he took to the face, the girl shattered him with a seriously powerful Force Push.
Anyway that is all.
Ever notice people can't handle valid opinions and views that are opposed to their own and then to cope with them use a statement like, "They are wow tards" When in most cases they are not wow tard and are attempting to be objective. Even more intresting is when those very people are Starwars "tards" and have to despirately defend the game even before it comes out.
Ok this is sarcasim, but its my primary forum of criticism and this poster did post many valid points. The thing is that its rather unfair to broadly catagorizy people as such and even it it were true , still you need to give or remove validity from their comments.
I mean honestly , how is it different to say i love bioware and sw so this game is looking good or i trust them; and i like wow is the best and this game is different so i think it will be bad. Both of these arguemtns are equaly suspect and matters of bias without much logic.
However, i see more of the supporting post reading like that (blind faith) and more of the critical posts listing specfitic issues they are Obseerved. This is not causitive, but it does exhibit inequity of how posts are viewed.
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5) Story: I'm looking forward to this as I think it's something that most MMO's are currently lacking. Story is something that BioWare does better than just about everyone. I remember the firsts time I played KOTOR and how impressed I was with the story, and the feeling of freedom that came with it. There was really no freedom in that game, you were riding on rails as much or more than any game out there, but they managed to make it feel like your choices mattered. The choices of an individual aren't really going to change the MMO world, that would be ridiculous with the millions of people playing this game. But if they can make you FEEL like you're making a difference, I think they will have accomplished something great.
4) Voice Acting: It's all about the immersion. Having to stop to read something always brings me back to the real world, and I can only take so much reality! I'm sure those who want to will be able to skip voices the same way they skip text, but for those of us who want the full experience the game has to offer, this will definitely be a great feature.
3) Companion Characters: I like the idea of not having to beg and wait for a healer to join the group. I play a lot of classes with pets, so I kind of see this as an extension of this same idea. Would I prefer a real companion? At times, and when I'm in the mood for that I'll definitely group up.
2) Player Ships as Housing: I've never understood the desire for player housing. There are so many things I'd rather have the devs working on on. I don't see it as a negative, it doesnt' detract from the game, but it doesn't really get me excited either.
1) It's Star Wars and Bioware: How can it go wrong? heh I was raised on Star Wars, it was the first movie my parents ever took me to see in a theater. The lore is wide and deep. Games based on this IP have been on both sides of the spectrum, from Amazing to Absolutely Pathetic. The key here is that when it's done right, it works. That's where Bioware comes in. They do things right. They have NEVER dissapointed. Ever. So you have an IP with amazing potential and a developer that always delivers... sounds like a good combination to me.
Sure, the game won't be for everyone... but I suspect it will be the game of choice for millions, myself included. As for those already determined to hate the game? You won't be missed.
I'll tell u right now why I quit most MMO's. It is because after your 2nd 50,60 ,70,80 lv Toon. U know the whole boring story. Bioware is making every class,every run through a diff story. Hell even sub class story is diff. This make's replay a HUGE plus. I know u got alot of WoW,LotRO, and SWG ppl cring. This is because they have Paid for 6+ years to have this Super bad ass Toon(never read a single story line,Just power lv up) So they been playing 1 toon for years so they fill they just lost 1070 dollars just on there sub's not saing anything about all the money for the games and expenstions. Don't worry it is called change it happens in LIFE. WoW I power lv because the story was lame from day one.Think it toke me 11 day's to hit 50. LotRO I liked the story up till like lv 30 then u knew the story after that because of the books and movies. SWG story wasn't there. STO story sucked and game play. PotBS was PvP so who carried about story. while I could go on for hours. Just FYI it is nice to have some story. As long as our End game and PvP is there. Which I don't think there going to screw up. They have did there Home work ppl.
If u was a Big SW fan not a Movie fan.U would know that there is Master who can absorb lightsaber blows(energy). The Master Darth Sidious Killed in the Movie was a Jedi who could use force Lighting. These are thing unless u read the Books u wouldn't know,but shouldn't call them out on,Because u don't know. LA is making sure everything is Cannon. Lucas made the mistake of letting his back turn and we got a Jedi Wookie which he blow up about. After this and lmfao SWG non Cannon junk, He made sure that they stick to IP
It's the story arcs I am looking forward to given Biowares reputation. Endgame is for the birds really at launch, if I like the look I try for it otherwise can justbpass on it all as in many mmo it gets patched in post launchEh, my whole clan is going into this game for all those things listed. It is, after all what is making this game a game. We look at it this way, if you liked and have played KOTOR single player games and always wanted it MP, well here is your chance. Pretty much sums the game up , not your standard MMO as bioware has repeatly said time and time again from the start.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
As long as Jar Jar isn't in it I'm game...or his descendant Dar Dar.
The real question is...will it be more like Star Wars 1 or 4?
ehh what? five reasons? for me its already hard to find one reason! for me the only thing is the 'star wars' in it. but it seems bioware do not want bring in the typical star wars feel & flair into the game. it just do not look, feel, smell or taste like star wars!
we saw an admiral akbar wannabe in on of the latest movies. it was just a failure to bring this clone of him into this scene. akbar is a very famous person, the peopels have their own opinions about him, but everyone knows his popular statement: it's a trap! they voice actor gave the akbar clone a different character. now he sound like a random car salesman from your local car shop! this is just one of many examples how different swtor is compared to the original star wars.
i think the statement of the real admiral akbar is the best to describe swtor.
Well not everyone will be looking forward to the launch of this game, different strokes for different folks I guess.
But I'm curious, you're saying that you hated the character because he looked like Ackbar but didn't sound or act like him? Seriously? What exactly were you expecting from a character that is supposed to be from the same Mon Calimari race but is not Ackbar? Do you expect them all to sound like they've got a bronchial infection and scream "Its a trap!" in response to everything? Besides that, do you realise that the game takes place 3,500 BEFORE the timeline of the films?
Will you be disappointed when you find theres characters from Yoda's race in the KOTOR timeline that doesn't sound EXACTLY like Yoda? And you can bet your life at least one of them will appear in SWTOR.
Look, I can get that you're not exactly thrilled about SWTOR, everyone has their different reasons to be thrilled or not about it. But the example you gave above is just very poor indeed.
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You seriously don't know who Bioware is?
Maybe the internet isn't for you.
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